The really juicy bits of E3 are over, and it seems that of the three platform holders, Microsoft has been universally voted down into third place. Whilst watching their press conference, we could tell what the reaction was going to be, simply because of their focus on Kinect titles. Regardless, the consensus is that they failed on three fronts.
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Yup, they abandoned the hardcore. Gamers are morons.
@ sin151
So Mass Effect voice control and GR Gunsmith mode now means that those games are exclusive to MS ?
Minecraft is on PC, Halo CE is a remake (or should I count Shadow of the Colossus and Ico remakes as new Sony exclusives now)
Sony showed live demos of the PSVita packed with kickass features at an awesome price, a cheap ass 3D TV deal. Dust 514, StarHawk, Sly 4 Move control for Bioshock: Infinite, Ruin with hybrid PS3/PSV gameplay, Uncharted: Golden Abyss
lol, Gunsmith mode, who's gonna waste their time with that nonsense, we're gamers, not S.A.S operatives that care about the inner workings of a rifle. You'll mess around with it for five minutes, then play the MP for a week and then bury the game forever.
WTF are you talking about !?
They haven't "abandoned" hardcore, but they want them to buy Kinect. They want you to buy the console, buy XBL Gold and buy Kinect. Defend MS all you want, but those are facts.
Because Sony doesn't want you to buy PSN Plus, PS Move, PSP Go, PSP Vita, or any of their 3D Tv's specifically the new 24" $499. Heck, they don't even want you to buy any blu-ray movies.
Nintendo definitely do not want you to buy a 3DS, Wii or even the Wii U.
What's wrong with a company wanting you to buy their stuff?
I would question a company's management and it's existence if it was the opposite. Making products that nobody wants!
Obviously you can as MS has audiences in both the hardcore and casual in addition to including some of the kinect features in hardcore. If you want an example of abandoning hardcore, look at Nintendo.
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I predominately game on the 360 the most but overall I was a little disappointed in the show.
There was a lot of information missing. It was kinda like they are holding back and following the script they laid out before Kinect was announced and it was steady as she goes with Kinect extending the life cycle of the 360 by a year or so and that brings me to my main point that...
...2012 will bring the introduction of a NEW xbox...no doubt about it. This was the kind of show where your saving all your information for a later date. Window 8 is, according to people who follow such things, a 2012 launch. Where was all the skype stuff, more than one person raised their eyebrows on that one. Spend 8.5 billion dollars on ANYTHING and you would here something about it. Windows 7???...Mega Meshes was a big demo...nothing. They are changing the discs...nothing...NOPE, they will do the same thing they did in E3 2010 and that is release the " NEW " console the same year it is announced, just like the 360 S. Halo 4 will be a launch title for the new console. This way the competition is clueless about it specks and how they will compete with it.
I think Sony had the better vision for the next 12 months. Their handheld is at least twice as powerful as the Sony 3DS, they will continue to push 3D gaming and they hope the PSN hack is behind them.
Nintendo has some gaping holes. They are releasing games on 3DS and ignoring the Wii itself. I didn't know if the hand held screen was the console or not till after the press showing. Nobody still knows the exact specs of the thing other than it will be similar to 360/PS3...just a mess to me and those Japanese guys should just hire a English speaking mc and be done with it...as funny as it was to watch them make those funny faces...O_o
I remember back in 2007 I had a stack of great 360 console exclusives, just begging for my time. Games that I couldn't play anywhere else, except maybe if I had a high end PC.
Now I go a year between buying games for my 360 because there aren't any I want to play. I don't trust the hardware because I've had so many die on me so I buy all my multiplats on the "other" console. That leaves me with Gears. Then a year. Then Halo. Then a year. Then Gears. Then another Halo. (I'm sorry, I'm not a racing fan. Forza does nothing for me - and actually looks cartoony in-game in my opinion)
When it comes to console exclusives, other than Kinect titles - they've all but disappeared for the 360 in the past few years and when a decent one comes out, like Alan Wake - hardly any 360 owners buy them. They're so busy buying nothing but Gears/Halo/COD.
No wonder Microsoft has abandoned the core gamers looking for casual bucks. So where do the core gamers now turn for exclusive, new IP's? I know where I went.
As far as the main article is concerned, I agree completely.
This is what you guys/gals been clamoring since early this year when Kinect was release, and now you got it... but the tune has changed!
"They have Forza, Gears and two Halo games.
Yup, they abandoned the hardcore. Gamers are morons. "
How about something different?
Already offered in the US by AT&T and has been available in the UK for years by Sky.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/e...
MS Dynamics CRM ? Sharepoint ? TFS ? Project ? SQL Server ?
Those games will be good but for 2 years if those are all MS can offer as their own exclusives then people should demand more.
Forza 4 just looks like 3 and one halo is a remake. im not saying thats bad but what is MS thinking.
and I wanna buy a 360 but so far MS has given me no reason other than Halo 4 but thats one game and around 16 months away from release and i wont buy a new console and pay for live just for that.
What should they have done? Created another first person shooter to compete with CoD, Battlefield, and every other game that was shown at E3? How about a platformer? No, can't do that...platformers are "for kids" after all. Driving game that beats GT5? Done. Sequel to Rez? Done. Every big third-party release available for their system? Done.
I don't know what people actually want.
Not that PS had a much better E3 showing cause they sucked too, but if your a gamer, you already know PS3 has a ton of exclusives now and coming of every genre out there.
Sly and Dust are just two examples of genre's that MS lacks ... A kiddy platformer and a MMO.
As for a kiddy platformer, they've got Rayman Origins heading to the system by the end of the year, and a fair few platform-style games kicking around on Xbox Live Arcade. Hell, given that only about four people actually bought Banjo Kazooie on 360, they could re-release that if everyone's desperate for something along those lines!
I can't wait to play all of these awesome-looking games on my Xbox 360!
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No, but I could really give two sh!ts about them. I agree that Sony's conference was the best this year but there really were no big surprises. We already knew about all the really cool stuff. The Vita and its lineup have me stoked though.
MS have 7 and have announced Forza,Fable and Halo 4 with Rare and ??left.
That's why people are disappointed. MS's first party developers are all making Kinect games. The majority of Kinects were sold to casual gamers.
I'm sorry but MS screwed up with Kinect when they didn't include any type of controller. There needs to be buttons and a stick.
I won't buy a 360 to play a game I can play on the PS3. Exclusive DLC isn't worth spending hundreds of extra dollars on. That's why I always watch MS' conference. I like to see what they have planned to see whether or not a 360 would make a good investment for me.
Since I can't use Kinect, the answer this year is still "no."
Exactly////! the same way that TV companies screwed up remote controls... they should have a wire that goes directly to the TV. And what is up with cellphones? They need to make those larger and maybe attach them to the walls of houses. And the clapper.... is the most annoying thing... why didn't it come with a switch that I can manually use to turn off the lights? So stupid these people!!!
but now the dust has settled a little and ive heard a abit more about some of the games .im abit more content with just sticking with 360...pretty sure the next gen will be announced next year anyway.
Mind you infamous 2 and uncharted 3 are making very not to get me a ps3,they both look awesome!
upcoming ps3 exclusives
the another world
disgea 4
starhawk
uncharted 3
infamous 2
final fantasy versus XIII
the last guardian
resistance 3
twisted metal
ratchet & clank: all 4 one
agent
adrift
tales of graces f
tales of xillia
wipeout trinity
atelier totori
yakuza of the end
Heavy Rain DevHas Two New Games in the Works* http://www.escapistmagazine...
Sony Cambridge?s AAA PS3 Game Set For 2012, Will Have Online* http://playstationlifestyle...
Sony Santa Monica has two new projects in the works* http://www.qj.net/qjnet/pla...
Guerrilla Games working on new PS3-exclusive IP, not related to Killzone http://www.joystiq.com/2010...
Idol Minds PS3 Exclusive Still Alive, Will Be An Action Title http://playstationlifestyle... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
these third party games are A to AAA titles enjoyed by both Xbox and Sony fans alike at the end of the day everybody wins.
I love you guys. You're awesome. You bitch and whine that developers are dying right, left and center, and then the second a "casual" player buys your favourite console and a few games, you hate it because you aren't in some "exclusive" club anymore.
What you forget, is that those "casual" players bring a LOT of much-needed money into this industry. Y'know, money that can be spent developing new hardware, new games, and pretty much giving you what you want.
Not that you'll ever be happy, of course.
The developers and publishers are what will kill Kinect.
And it would be one hell of a feat of design for Microsoft to build Kinect into it's next console, and still make it so that the whole thing fits under your TV.