Nintendo Co. fell the most in more than two months after the unveiling of its first high-definition video-game console prompted some analysts to question the company’s ability to repeat the success of its ageing Wii model.
With all the spinning and damage control that goes on around here its next to impossible to tell.
I think there's a lot of confusion regarding this new Wii U console. Thats the reaction I'm seeing from most not totally biased idiots.
Nintendo hasnt helped at all neither
@sdtarm I know. In the gametrailers interview they said they would rely on the developers to talk about info which is just so dumb to me. They could have at least taken 30 minutes more in the conference to explain everythiing...
well what do people expect technically speaking they haven't even revealed their new console yet just the controller and people out there still think the controller is the console
I think the shares fell because the console will end up with a high price, which most consumer will avoid as it is very similar to ps3 or xbox, but we haven't seen any spec info yet so i can't say how superior wii is to the current consoles. but the controller will end up costing around $100-150.
The Wii U feels more like a slight a improvement than a new console in my opinion. From what they've shown the graphics is either on par with the PS3 & 360 or slightly better. The only thing unique to the controller is the fact that you can use Wii accessories with it and that you can switch from playing a console game on a tv to playing on the controller. Everything else the PSV w/ PS3 can pretty much do unless I'm forgetting something.
@EYEamNUMBER1 As I've been telling my friends, whose fault is it if people are confused about Wii U? I think it has to be Big N's fault. If you have the stage for 1.5 hrs, and you have live broadcasts and streams (so that as little as possible is lost in translation), and you STILL cannot get the message clearly across, you're doing something wrong. How hard is it? If I were Nintendo, I would have said, "Yes, there will be a new console. Yes, the Wii U controller works with both the Wii and the new console. No, I have no further details on the new console now."
keyword is definitely *confusion* for almost all the conference I thought the joystick was the console and they never clear things up in the show...
Yes and hardcore gamers who follow news were confused. It's not necessarily a bad thing when they still got almost 2 years before the U launches. Speculation can be good and sometimes bad though.
I believe velcry nailed my thoughts. I watched the entire Nintendo press conference, and I'm still confused as to what's going on with this new system.
Nintendo is kind of elusive with the Wii U detailed information. They shouldn't let the developer be the one talking about info. Nintendo should be the one doing the talking as it's their console after all.
it is good to see nintendo doing something different and innovative! competition is what makes the gaming industry good and life! they deserve all the success they got from wii and i hope they put a strong competition in the next gen.
The problem that Nintendo faces isn't informational. It's their userbase. Some loyal Nintendo fans as well as new fans will buy the console. But a massive percentage of people that made the Wii a success are not the same people that will upgrade a console. "You mean it looks better with better graphics? That's not important." Granny doesn't care. Not to mention the number of people that bought one who have been letting it sit on the shelf and collect dust. I know, I have one under one of my TVs. An almost two year wait for the next cycle possibly puts the console into contention with the PS4, the Xbox 720, or both. These are consoles that sell to people who do upgrade and these two consoles will certainly be more powerful. There is every chance that the Wii had it's run and the magic of the Wii was a lucky place in time, not to be repeated. If I were a Nintendo shareholder I would be very concerned.
There's no way in hell, heaven, or earth that WiiU will share Wii's success. I expect their shares to continue to drop and encourage any investors who hoped aboard any time after 2006 get out now, while they still can make money from their investment. Heck, with 3DS's high price barrier thanks to its expensive and ineffective 3D technology and with stiffer competition, I doubt the 3DS will share the DS's success, either. Like I said, abandon ship if you still want to make money on your investment. It's all going to start soon with high marketing costs.
Reggie confirmed in an interview with Geoff the footage of the 3rd party games were from the ps3 and 360 version so you cant really judge the console yet as they haven't shown anything really in terms of graphical output.
And you're missing the point: it was the main presentation Reggie needed to show off the Wii U. That's what the general public and media were coving and the only thing they cared about. Not a post interview after they only showed and overall suggested that the controller was the only thing they had. Nevermind that the fracking thing is a tablet!
I think the problem is this: 1) What console? Nintendo showcased the controller and forgot about the console 2) Most likely, their 8th gen console will be significantly weaker than MS and Sony 8th gen consoles making development for games at that point for devs back to the Wii and ps3 / 360 scenario. 3)Disk capacity? Disk format? 4) HDD? what are the specs? 5) How expensiv will this new controller be considering regualr controllers are £30. Will the controller be sold at a loss and if so by how much? If it is expensive, will people buy it? My ball park guestimate is around £60-80 for the controller. 6) why are they using out of date Wii plus controllers for motion gaming? 7) A year or 2 after release, it will be outdated when Sony and MS release their consoles bringing development of games back to the Wii and ps3 / 360 scenario. 8) controller is not portable and hasn't got complete tablet functionality although it designed to look and perform similar to one. 8) PSV (refuse to call it Vita) does a lot of what the Wii U controller does and a lot more and it will be portable, have its own set of games for on the go and at home and it is priced well. How will this affect Wii U sales and its controller sales. All these points show that there are a lot of variables unaccounted for and for anyone who has shares with Nintendo will want these answering.
the casuals like it but for the core that isnt Zelda and mario fanatics the console does nothing of major interest.
The Wii U was pretty much a hit-or-miss with people.
was a hit for me. Where do I enroll at Wii U?
lol, I thought of Wii University too.
LOL we graduated Wii highschool and headed fto the University. I swear Wii U commercials should do a college spoof
Haha nice. I've seen Wii U-rinal. Which is a bit more on the crude side.
The wii U has been a huge hit amongst game analysts and game bloggers and everyone whose tried it. There hasnt been one negative playtest or preview. I guess suits see it different. Oh well. Its not like the fate of the system will be decided 1.5 years BEFORE launch. Come back to me 5+ years after launch. You need to literally give a system that much time to see the true story. The ds was a flop after 2 years, best selling system ever after 6. Goes to show you, you know. @ disagrees prove me wrong. Oh thats right you cant.
The thing is, we really can't trust the previews. Most of the bigger sites are afraid to give actual opinions in a preview. Like I was watching a video with an IGN editor talking about the Xbox 360 event, it's looked like she was holding back and was afraid to say it was average at best...
Previews are almost always positive and then the actually review hits and you see a 6/10 which leaves you scratching your head, "in the previews you led me to believe the game was actually worth looking forward to."
read Joystiq... by the way most aren't positive either...I see a distinctly neutral attitude from everyone but IGNorant....
it's another gimmick from nintendo..
most things are gimmicks. Get use to it. Those who have actually playtested and tried the new system have nothing but positive things to say. Those who havent tried and need to reassure themselves why it sucks calls it a gimmick good night
so your saying the competition will implement it down the road and say they always planned on doing so then? that seems to be the trend with these so called "gimmicks"
...so it'll be copied by Sony
look up remote play
having a portable control a console has been done by Nintendo and Sony already, but you could actually leave your house to play those portable. your truly telling me you didn't think of the Vita when the first showed off the WiiU?
Gimmick is just another word for awesome thing that you should buy.
Firstly that controller looks like it will strain you arms over time. And secondly I wouldnt let my kids touch that I see what they do to a ds3 or a xbox controller already. Could you imagine when the screen gets cracked. Screw that.
Press likes it, personally don't.
have u personaly played it we know the CPU is basucally light years ahead of R700 tech its basically got the same tech as IBM's Super Computer Watson that beat 98% of opponents on Jeperdy the quiz show so think of human AI and SM5.0/DX12 thats what u have here oh every controller preview says very comfortable and very light
The CPU is using the same manufacturing tech as the Watson super computer but that says nothing about it's power and the GPU handles the rendering anyway so the CPU wouldn't have much impact on visuals. Also DX12 doesn't even exists yet....
Sm 5.0 is dx11. Damn you kids. And R700 is Dx10 gpu and very low powered compared to even a 260 or 280 series gpus.
A game tablet is all investors see. If its not An Apple they expect all tablets to fail. Real gamers know the difference but some old dude in an office watching CNBC doesn't.
i dnt see it as being a big seller i was kinda happy to see the hd finally hit the console and the new controller is really nice but onli one per console?? WTF ?/?? it uses wiimotes sooo idk hd has been around for years and nintendo just adapt when new ps3 and 360 are about 2 or 3 years away plus this wii u isnt gona be available till mid 2012 so i dont understand what nintendo has in thier plan
I guess you didn't hear the aftermath of the conference when Reggie announced that it was running at 1080p native when talking to Adam Sessler. Sorry, but PS3 and 360 are nowhere near that in terms of sheer horsepower.
Ps3 and 360 both have games that run at 1080p There is no benefit to running a game at 1080p anyway. You wont be able to tell the difference on screens that are too small and most of the screens above 50 inches are too expensive for the average gamer. Even if you do have a TV big enough, the difference between 720 and 1080 isn't at black and white as you might think. Most people don't sit close enough to their TV to see any benefit from 1080p over 720p. In general, unless you're building a home theatre, or sit abnormally close to your TV during normal use... you will NEVER see a difference between 720p and 1080p. The human eye simply can't resolve the difference between the two at normal viewing distances.
I lol'd. Then I facepalmed. Then I lol'd again.
Really now. You're telling me the PS3 and 360 look like this? http://www.youtube.com/watc... Oh, and the only game I've seen run at 1080p native was WipEout HD, and that had nowhere near the number of polygons that a game like Uncharted had. So no, the 360, nor the PS3 are nowhere near this console in terms of sheer horsepower, as originally stated.
its cpu is a Super Computer same tech as IBM (Watson) 8 cores
I just can't get over just how HUGE that controller is. haha It's gotta be fairly heavy with that screen and powerful battery. I couldn't see myself playing any CoD games or Battlefield games on it. I could only see myself playing Nintendo type games, like Mario and Donkey Kong. The controller is a bit inhibiting to hardcore gaming. Still, I can't believe their shares took a hit because of the new console's unveiling. Crazy stuff. @Klaykid123 Yeah, I hope so. Like I said, I'm hopeful for it cause I never bought a Wii. I really WANT to buy this new Nintendo, but I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this gigantic controller, or should I say wrapping my hands around? haha ----------------- Also, the price cannot be more than $350, or people will just buy a cheaper console with more games like the 360 or PS3, which also have more advanced online features and more well-established communities.
Apparently the controller is made out of light material.. APPARENTLY. Nintendo usually comes out with the very innovative, ground-breaking tech, but it always seems kind of.. unnecessary, you know?
One thing though is that Nintendo always comes out with durable products as well. I remember one time my leg got tangled up with the GameCube power cord and I accidentally kick the system half-way across the room. Not only did it not have any damage, it didn't even skip!
I have to say that looks like a very awkward way to play a game unless your playing on the tablet itself. This coupled with the current gen specs spell out a very poor move on Nintendos part.
lol.... and micorsoft shares rose after this...... http://www.youtube.com/watc... xbox360....the new wii consoles- taking sub-hd.....a little lower, every year
Has anyone actually looked at Nintendo's share price? It ended the day higher than it started: http://finance.yahoo.com/ec...
To be fair, Nintendo really didn't reveal too much. Next year is when they will really blow the lid off the console. The same thing happened with the wii. They talked about it at e3 2005, with not even a game in sight, then had their big reveal the following e3. Same thing as now.
THANK YOU! Finally someone else see that too. If anything, we got more this time around than we did back when Nintendo unveiled the Revolution.
only because of the name people who played it liked it.....people are dumb for basing opinion based off a name....though i do admit it is a wired name choice
It felt more like they were showing off a new peripheral and not a new console, I'm going to pick one up, but I'm slowly becoming indifferent.
people arent buying product right now ( because of lack of good new releases) thats why the shares fell. Give it a few months and the string of great new games comes out till the end of the year and beyond. Stock will go up for nintendo.
Waiting the last few days of E3 before I have my opinion. But I am pretty positive. Sure, games ( not really games, more tech demos ) that have been shown have been both pretty and ugly. That was to be expected from a new console. Whats important for me, is the online feature and if ANY third party devs will really use the new controller.
Nothing they DEBUTED at E3 made a big impact. That is the key point made by the suits. E3 is where you get people salivating for your new stuff. Not debating the weight of your tablet/controller.
True but people are going to debate no matter what because they have yet to try it. I'll laugh if Nintendo strikes gold again and this console sells viral. I can see this getting big. You could grab the casual market for sure with the whole tablet. Video chat will be a great bonus to owning this. And if the graphics are great and 3 party devs are gravitating towards the console, then I think this can bring in the hardcore. It's just a matter of when people can try it out for themselves & also what innovative ideas devs come up with for using it.
It's because Nintendo decided to announce everything after the conference. There's a new Kirby and a new Pikmin game coming out. Both of those would have gotten a standing ovation... Really bad organization on Nintendo's part imo.
I think nintendo succeeded with what they were out to achieve by making it a console for everyone. Straying away from the motion wand and going back to a form factor closer to a controller makes it much more appealing to the core, while adding the large tablet like touch screen makes it innovative enough to appeal to the casual. Huge win in my book. I applaud Nintendo.
I hope there's an option for a standard controller because I wouldn't pay an extra 100 bucks for a controller with a screen - yeah keeping the hud on there is cool but not that cool and I much rather game on my HD TV with surround sound.
Id assume if the wiimote and balance board work with the WII U, then the classic controller would also work.
The suits should be more spooked by this new disk format. Ninety should learn from the failure of UMD. Now 3rd party studios are gonna have to release games on 3 formats,that will driveup cost . Also movie studio aren't gonna release movies on this new format so there goes some value right there. Also what happens when this thing gets hacked? How will Ninety respond?
That Reggie interview on gametrailers was really laughable. Reggie basically just talked a bunch of nonsense for not further diving into the online portion of things with the new wii and its specs and graphical capabilities. He really liked saying "1080P"
If it's just a PS3 with a massive iPad controller then I don't want it. I was really excited for the next Nintendo system, then I saw this thing - isn't the average gamer 37 years old now, I never have to give up the TV to my parents (I don't live with them) so the screen is pretty much useless to me. The other uses are just needless gimmicks that don't substantively improve gaming, I'd much rather have a cheaper, more durable, ergonomic controller. Where the power too.