There are two formats battling it out for the top High Definition format, Bluray and HD DVD. The question is who will win?
This really gives the impression that blu-ray is bombing, even more then I thought. I cant believe they dont have a dual-layer disc working yet, so much for resistance being 23GB. They are going to have to tone it down, or theyll hit the edge of the disc (I read an article earlier that said that blu-ray players cannot read the information close to the edge of the disc).
It's actually pretty alarming
Not only are they having technical problems (see recont story on hardware manufacturing problems/shortages, Australian BD drives proving current personal computers aren't compatible with BD yet, etc)... But look at the reviews of movies themselves. A few sites have put BluRay and HD-DVD side-byside when the same titles have released on both platforms. And HD-DVD has better or same picture, MUCH better sound (through licensing issues I think), and Sony's use of MPEG-2 and dual-layer problems means the BluRay discs can't actually hold any extra material. Or at least they don't. So you can pay half as much for an HD-DVD player, and get superior or exactly similar playback in every possible aspect. Why wouldn't you?
giving the world another example of what happens when you try to re-invent the wheel. HD-DVDs can be manufactured on the same equipment that makes standard DVDs using media almost identical to DVD media and can, in fact, have an HD-DVD on one side and a standard DVD on the other. When combined with being encoded at the lauded 1080p bit rate, and being cheaper for both hardware and media, there is precisly zero reason for anyone to be lusting after Blu-Ray. I mean really, if after ten years of development, you can't make it work in the lab, what, in the name of all that's Holy, are you doing trying to foist it on an unsuspecting public? I smell massive class action lawsuit potential.
Bluray is ahead of HD-DVD.Bluray has burners that are at faster speeds,Bluray media both read only & writable,Bluray has more movie studio support 7 out of the 8 major studio's.And the porn Industry is backing Bluray.HD-DVD is way behind.
out sell Blu-Ray 4-3?
Typical example of a sony gimp! The truth is right there infront of you but you still insist on lieing.
Despite all the things you list. Why? Because it is better at movies, you know, it's core function, what it was designed for. Try going to all the Hi-Fi publications and see what they say. UltimateAV, Home Theatre Mag, The Perfect Vision, Projector Central, CineNow, Secrets of Home Theatre and Hi Fidelity, Hi Def Digest, HDBeat, DVD Review and DVD Town. They unanimously state that HD-DVD has a better picture. NO exceptions. That's why HD-DVD is ahead.
because PS3 isn't out yet.............. Everyone knows PS3 will have Blu Ray, why would they spend 1000$ when they can spend less and get a great game console also. Commonsense
Wrong. You get a bad quality BR player in the PS3 then in high quality stand aloneplayers. It has to be cheapass remember because of the already too high priced PS3. Just like the bad sad quality PS2 DVD drive that got so many non working PS2's. People that wan't good HD footage, buy a standalone. They take the best quality/price, which is the HD-DVD standalone. It's half the price of BR and has better images. PS3 buyers are gamers and might play a video once in a while. But no one really buys the PS3 for BR. It's an extra. But still. PS3 gamers won't buy BR movies in large quantities. So it's of no use. And don't forget. The PS2 sold like hot cake because the DVD already was standard. BR is NOT. End of story. HD-DVD wins, it also sounds logical to people who already bought a HD-TV No Untruth, no commonsense. You talk ConstantNonsense
Comonsense tells me that if i was a real movies and media buff and wanted the best quality BR player i would get a stand alone player. because comonsense tells me that the one in the PS3 is a cheap version therefore the quality & reliablity will not be as good. "With the PS3 you are getting a CHEAP BR player" quoted by your master ken. thats comonsense for you clearly have none.
For less than $1000 dollars you CAN get a great console and next gen movie player. For $450 less you could buy a stand-alone HD-DVD player and a Nintendo Wii. For $150 less you could buy a stand-alone HD-DVD player and an Xbox 360 premium. But wait, I can see you are a man that recognizes value when you see it. What if you could get TWO great next gen consoles and a next gen movie player for less than $1000! For $50 less you could buy a stand-alone HD-DVD player AND a Nintendo Wii AND an Xbox 360 core!
just like I got a bad quality fan system in my Xbox 360, causing it to overheat and causing me to pay 130 bucks. But yea, i agree. I mean when i buy my PS3 in Nov. i wont be buying it for the blu-Ray and movies, Ill be buying it for games and game-related functions that the PS3 has. Im sure by the end of this year, Ill have everything (plan on getting HD DVD add-on for Xbox 360, The Wii, and PS3 w/ Blu-Ray and i already have a HDTV, so im set for the next-gen HDTV experience of entertainment) but yea, for now HD DVD wins, simply put, cheaper, and better quality right now. But um TheMart, I wokr at Best Buy and we have an up-to-date sepcs sheet about PS3 and it says a Sony manufactured Blu-Ray player in the PS3. Nuthin about a bad quality BR player, why would sony make a blu-ray player just for ps3, just so it can give half of the real thing. Makes no sense. So Blu-Ray and PS3 are looking pretty good right now, just as long as the system works and truely brings out HD experiences, Im fine with that.
The ps3 is 600$ a stand alone BR player is 999$ how do you explain that one??? If there is no difference in quality then how can sony justify a 999$ price tag for a stand alone player when the PS3 is a games console and a BR movie player of the same quality is priced at 600$. Doesnt make sense?
From what I have read Sony dramatically inflated the licensing fees to use the Blu Ray technology for vendors like Samsung. This prevents them from undercutting Sony's own player, and in turn the PS3. Additionally Sony redirected all the laser diodes to the PS3 production line, again preventing 3rd party vendors from even being able to obtain the needed parts. Top it all off with dual layer read problems (not working in the lab and requiring a firmware update on the players), substandard quality when compared to HD-DVD's VC1, and in the end we see a....LOSER format from Sony. I have boycotted Sony for years due to their insistence upon proprietary media formats (Beta, MD, SACD, Memory Stick, and now Blu Ray). With a name like Blu Ray, how do they ever expect to be successful? HORRID!
Devs would total disagree,Bluray is and will be used for games on the PS3.While you are loosing half your content and paying extra for it by download it on X360.PS3 will have it all included on 1 50Gb Bluray disc.PS3/Bluray are the Future.You must be a blind Xbot with his head stuck up Bill Gates arse not too seen that.
They cant even get the dam thing working even after 10 years of development. Im feel really sorry for you if you think thats the future.
if you think Sony is not going to sell you downloadable content you have to be stupid. There is a market for it, and no gamming company is going to stick around making extra content that they aren't going to get paid for.
...come the release of the PS3, the BluRay numbers will jump drastically... and, of course, Sony will try to say that means the BluRay won. However, most people who buy a PS3 will not use it for movies... but for games... because, duh, it is a game console. Even if a majority of PS3 owners buy a few BluRay movies to watch, give it a year after PS3 releases and the format will die.
Who cares? We are gamers, why do so much of you care about HD-DVD and Blu-RAy
It doesn't get sadder than this. You have said nothing constructive in your comments. Just more jibber jabber at the 360 with every sentence..."I pitty the fool" isn't this a gaming system after all? And as we know standalone players are way better then integrated ones in systems. Just as a video enthusiast. The PS3 is "watered down Koolaid" of a BR player. Since its already watered down and its stand alone counterpart doesn't look so well. What makes you think it will be better?
While reading the article did anybody else notice the 3 HD-DVD advertisements ON THE SAME PAGE. I swear it's so hard to find an unbiased opinion from anyone these days.
"For full coverage of HD-DVD and Blu-ray please visit our HD page HDDVD.org " That pretty much gave it away that they are intensely biased. In no way would I believe their studies/statistics when they promote one side like that, even if it is in my favor.
Most biased crap I've ever read. And some of the 360 fanatic responses are just pure gold. "The PS3 is 'watered down Koolaid' of a BR player." Interesting, KewlKat007. I didn't realize you actually used a PS3 and compared it's Blu-ray movie capabilities to standalone players. You're a lucky bastard for trying one out months before launch. "They cant even get the damn thing working even after 10 years of development." They haven't finalized dual-layer Writable BD discs yet; you'd rather have faulty discs running on your computer or something? TheMart:"You get a bad quality BR player in the PS3 then in high quality stand aloneplayers. It has to be cheapass remember because of the already too high priced PS3." I'm amazed that you got your hands on a retail unit as well. That's just crazy dude. You're totally up there with KewlKat. You two must have mad hookups. =) And the number one quote still comes from tehMaRt -> "And don't forget. The PS2 sold like hot cakes because the DVD already was standard. BR is NOT." Did you own a standalone DVD player before October 2000? Did your friends purchase DVD movies on a regular basis before then? The answer is probably NO. DVD was around years before the PS2 was even announced (my computer back in 1999 had a DVD drive, but it wasn't even as good as the one in my PS2). And you claim it's just pure coincidence that DVD movie sales skyrocketed at the exact time when PS2 was launched? What a load of crap. Without the PS3, both HD-DVD and Blu-ray movies would be in the exact same position as when DVD started out. Small, incremental sales but nothing earthshattering. Every PS3 that's sold is also a stand-alone blu-ray player. At CES they had PS3s running blu-ray movies already; it's not like they're behind. And with every PS3 that's sold, you get potential blu-ray movie sales. With every 360 sold you get a potential...DVD consumer. Everyone has DVD players anyway so it doesn't really change anything. If you want HD-DVD playback you have to buy an add-on drive for an undisclosed amount. And if common knowledge serves me right, without being 'forced' most consumers aren't even going to bother with the drive. DVD sales took off because the PS2 'forced' consumers to adopt an unproven format. And now it's the standard format. It made it OK for the Xbox and Gamecube to use DVD discs (gamecube uses mini-dvds). Come next-next-generation when the Xbox 420 comes out, don't be surprised when MS announces that it has a blu-ray drive built in.
"For full coverage of HD-DVD and Blu-ray please visit our HD page HDDVD.org That pretty much gave it away that they are intensely biased. In no way would I believe their studies/statistics when they promote one side like that, even if it is in my favor. " did you not realize that doth formats are versions of high definition DVD? toshiba just got the better name first, the fact that it's hddvd.org, has nothing to do with "alliances" to either faction, they review both formats, and news updates for each format. why don't you read it before judging the site? or are you that angry that yet another site, among dozens that are given your oh so freaking precious blu-ray a bad review? if you are so sure, why don't go over to best buy or some audio video store, have them hook up both players to the same tv, and play the same movie, and judge for yourself? then you may acutally be able to come online and give your own opinion, instead of just assuming one is better based on which company you like more. I've seen them, and I know which looked better to me.
Blu-Ray is Bogus,Fugazy,Trash,Corn-Dollar s,Wacktackulous,Etc.
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