"When I first bought my Kinect, I must admit that I thought "where are the good games?" But after watching this year's Microsoft conference, I realized just why games should stick to the controller."
Sad, sad reality.
I'd like to quote a David Jaffe Tweet "What's this I hear about KINECT Disneyland being unveiled at E3?!? Oh hells motherfuckin yeah you KNOW that's day 1 for me!!!"
bu bu bu but YOUTUBE!!
An go figure you had the most diverse library with the PS2. Not to mention that if MS had nothing to show for kinect, people would be all over them for lack of support. You just cant please everyone but at least you can try. Kinect is an option to use in some of these games like move. Lets not be hypocritical now.
darthv72 when it takes away from the games we already love then yes its a problem...
@darthv72 That's a bad excuse. It's not like they're incapable of supporting both hardcore games and Kinect.
@ Darth The users here do not have a problem with diversity, bro. They have a problem with the shift in brand strategy towards the causals. Remember back in 2007 when MS was all about hardcore games? Well with 8 million units of Kinect sold those days are over. When that Sesame Street game popped up during the press conference I knew that MS had officially sold out to the casuals. Kinect is hardly a revolution. Those voice commands have been around since the PS2 days.
We all know the stable of MS 1st and 2nd party developers is pretty thin. This is going on a limb here and saying that while MS may be trying to support both, the 3rd party guys will be making up the majority of the slack. MS is not Sony. They arent Nintendo either. Their main goal was to creat a platform that developers could release software on for as varied a crowd as they possibly could. MS is trying to mimic the PS2 era with their software available for practically anyone. If you step out of this gen for a moment and look back at what made the PS2 a success you will see that is where MS is getting their inspirations. It doesnt matter if this or that has been done before. What matters is that MS is getting it done here and now for the 50+ million users they have. Not waiting for when it is good for you but taking the initiative and offering choice to gamers. Face it, wii doesnt give you choice. Not in the sense that "core" gamers are looking for. PS3 is all about the core but that is a minority these days. Sony knows this as well. We can make MS and the 360 become the whipping post all we want but the truth is they have games coming out for ALL kinds of gamers. I think what has many people defensive is that they are going in all these directions at the same exact time. Giving the impression that they dont support this side or that side. Supporting gaming as a whole is a bad thing?
I was pretty disappointed by the conference. While there were a few cool ideas to use Kinect with Mass Effect and Ghost Recon I still think it's pointless as those same tasks are easily accomplished with a controller in less time(and in the case of Mass Effect you talking out loud breaks immersion even though it's meant to do the reverse doublely so if you are playing the opposite gender Shepard like I do for example) Not to mention the only real core game that was shown that was new was Halo 4 and everyone knew it was coming before hand thanks to the leak.
"wait until E3. MS is saving all their big games for E3" Yes..Disneyland, and Sesame street...I can see why they waited for the big reveals.
goes well with their hardcore fanboys. q;
It was Halo, Gears, kinect with some multiplats (but just with implementation that would work with a $5 microphone), and more Kinect. The Kinect games were.......cute. But most of the implementation was boring. It was about 90% Kinect. Which was painful.
@ Kon Sad for Microsoft, it's not THE reality, it's Microsoft's reality, let em keep it. I say no controller, no Microsoft. I'll be PS3 only in a short while if they keep this up.
It was kind of a "meh" conference. Was expecting more since Microsoft has been pretty quiet mostly.
Quiet with good reason, Valay. If they would have hyped their conference for what it was, no one would have cared. And a shocker that their biggest announcement was Halo 4. ...Shocker indeed.
I was expecting more from them.
I'm just so glad that when they showed Halo 4 they didn't say "With Kinect!". Then again, they didn't say it wouldn't be coming :S
Better than i thought it would be, but not bad!
really? were you watching the same thing I was, other than the known announcements the only interesting one was Halo 4 and it was outed by their own website before the conference. Sesame street, disney kids game on the conference why? No forza 4 gameplay, an underwhelming Gears 3 demo, and the rest was kinect, and most were as dumb as what they announced 2 years ago, even features announced last year are resurfacing now for it like voice commands and object capture.
They had the bumpers up on their lane, and still bowled a 40. Maybe they were trying to be ironic?
Kinect is retarded. Useless hardware that does nothing for gaming. MS's presser sucked again.
I thought it was especially funny when the first game was shown (COD:MW3) and all of a sudden it paused was like "please connect controller".... and then almost everything else was kinnect.
No comment. I'm just speachless and..... asleep
Very Kinect heavy conference but who really here is surprised?Must be very disappointing to the core 360 gamers since the 360 exclusives are yet again sparse and most are 2012 bound. Good chunk of the games shown were multiplat and yeah sure IT has Kinect support BUT at the end of the day its a game that you can get on the PS3 as well.The only thing that did impress me that involved Kinect was Mass Effect 3.
When they first use the controller it went dead in the middle of playing COD
I'm still waiting on the Xbox 360 conference, all I saw was Kinect. =\ MS failed again worse MS E3 to date.
all I Say is lightsaber on
Disneyland and Sesame street, seriously i think this was one of the worst e3 for MS ever. And Fable on rails, good lord!
Fanboys are so funny on this site... All year long i have read comments saying how Kinect doesnt have any hardcore games.MS delivers with Mass Effect 3, Ghost Recon,Ryse,Forza 4,Star Wars,and Fable and they are still bashing it lol. Soon or later consoles wont use controllers, so get used to it.
"All year long i have read comments saying how Kinect doesnt have any hardcore games.MS delivers with Mass Effect 3, Ghost Recon,Ryse,Forza 4,Star Wars,and Fable and they are still bashing it lol." Uh the star wars kinect game not hardcore, fable has been a super casual game for yrs, try again. Actually the kinect "hardcore games" aren't really anymore appealing than it's casual games to some of us. "Soon(er) or later consoles wont use controllers, so get used to it." Yes they will eventually read our thoughts and translate that into action on screen. Till that time several yrs away or longer, you will still need buttons to due specific tasks, and analogue sticks to control movement and aiming/the camera. Kindly pull your head out of your ass, before making stupid statements such as those again. Darthv72 spun it alot better than you did.
I predicted this like 2 weeks ago. I knew they was gonna show more Kinect stuff and a few other things. Same old stuff from MS like always.
AutoLad, why would I get used to something I don't like? You sound like a rep or something. If I don't like it I won't play it. No big deal.
I didnt like Microsoft E3 very much. While they showed some good titles (Halo, Gears) There was too much Kinect for me. Anyways for those who like Kinect they are going to have a blast with it in 2011.
im old school I can never imagine giving up my controllers for gaming.
It actually saddens me how much emphasis is put on the casual gamer now.
This. Casual games are fine but they should never be the main focus imo.
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