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Former Harmonix dev. bashes PS3

"I read various game forums from time to time, and often see gamers complaining about 'lazy ports' to the ps3. They often mention how the ps3 is the most powerful game console and blame developers working on the console for doing a bad job. Sony has all of these people duped by impressive marketing spin, and I'm often amazed at how potent this type of rhetoric proves to be. For those unaware, I'm going to break it down simply and explain exactly why ports to the ps3 will never be as good as their 360 counter parts, and why most ps3 exclusives will likely continue to suck."

Follow the link to read how Jason Booth "debunks" a few "misconceptions".

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Bigmac5733197d ago (Edited 3197d ago )

PS3 has Eye of Judgment, that's all I care about right now. Anyone wanna play? =)

BY the way, here's a picture of this horrid monster: http://photos1.blogger.com/...

Fighter3197d ago (Edited 3197d ago )

He needs the light to hide his true troll self. When I say 'troll' I mean literal (like Shrek) troll.

The guy just got fired from Harmonix so he's definitely in a self-destructive mood. Xbox 360 and the Wii will probably be next on his hit list. That girl in the pic better watch her back when sh's in the same room as him.

Time Lord3197d ago

or is it ok when they bashing the PS3?

YoMeViet3197d ago

Shrek is an Ogre but I get your point XD

unlimited3197d ago

what whiny pity devloper..lol..what games have he made that was graphically amazing..heck i dont even know who he is at all..someone mad at sony for making his life harder..lol..is he even workin on a psp game or ps3..i read that sony didnt want anythin to do with him..maybe that why his going nuts and hating..

lmao..

Also have the best looking game out there compare to the 360..who crapping out on people each day..

ruibing3197d ago

So this is his version of a job resume to be hired by Gabe (from Valve)?

Marceles3197d ago

I guess that's why he's a former dev. Fired.

iceice1233197d ago

Bring up someones pic in this discussion makes no sense. Guess you finally see how much your console fails :) Lets see a pic of you sense you're so into bringing up others =)

marinelife93197d ago

I stopped reading when he said PS3 exclusives suck.

nasim3197d ago SpamShow
sticky doja3197d ago

It was just a hunch at first, but as much as this guy stays on this site stating how great the PS3 is and is doing, their can be no other explaination. He posts constantly for like 8-10 hours a day, so either he goes to work and then comes home and spends 8-10 hours praising the PS3 on the internet instead of actually playing it, or the 8-10 hours on the internet praising it IS HIS JOB.

Anyone else feel this way? No one else on this website spends half as much energy as he does promoting the PS3 and bashing the 360.

shmee3197d ago

nasim used to work for VALVE

He is now part of a multiplat company

DO u want to refute a developer on this?

sorry nasim (not his real name)

I had to reveal your identity.

Nasim and his team are working on a big PS3 PROJECT .....u wd see his fruits in 2008 FALL

LOL PS3 IS JUNK LOL3197d ago (Edited 3197d ago )

Normally this is where I post something that makes me lose my bubbles (or lack of). For the first time I am putting up a serious post.

"wow this guy is being paid for this dont believe a word."

This is one of the most ignorant comments I have seen. The blog post is 100% correct. I am a programmer and I have done game programming before (nothing 3D but the underlying concepts are close to the same)

EDIT: I see 3 disagrees already and no replies. You PS3 turds are a bunch of idiots.

Not one thing he mentioned is false. I would like you to reply with some insight on how these comments are made-up. Game programming is all about "state"

You cannot determine the state of something if it is split across multiple processors. The problem is that you get "dirty reads" that are stored into the cache....meaning....that when you have a program that needs to know the exact state, it has to pass through one central point.....ONE CORE.

This is why we have servers. Servers act as a single entry point TO PRESERVE STATE. Since games need to stay in sync, the majority of the functions need to rely on ONE CORE. Hence why most of the SPUs aren't being used and as far as I can see they won't be able to find a use for them (outside of audio and simple tasks)

All of his points are valid and exactly why the PS3 is not doing well. It has an excellent source of power but not all of that power fits into game development.

Now with that being said. You start to see why the PS3 is getting crap ports. You have to alter your code outside the norm. This is time consuming and it will cause companies to lose interest (especially when sales are not as good as others). I feel that the AAA games to come to the PS3 are going to be exclusives. This is the only way developers are going to have the time and efforts to write code specifically for the PS3 architecture.

If you want to hit that disagree button, at least reply with a reason. Disagreeing without a reason just shows that you are a ignorant fanboy.
Give me some credit...I finally posted a REAL comment.

radzy3197d ago

back to halo 3 -team slayer

Icecold333197d ago (Edited 3197d ago )

Why would you post this guys picture?(Isn't it already posted with the article.) What point did it have? Does it aid you in making a personal attack against him because you don't agree with what he said.

This is a clear example of people hearing and seeing what they want to hear or see.

sak5003197d ago

@ Bigmac i doubt u look any better than this guy.

godofthunder103197d ago

this is what gets me from fanboys from both sides.when a sales report comes out that 1 outsold the other,they are wrong if the system they have didn't sell more then the other,like they know how many units sold and the people that keep up with sales figure don't.these post are the same way,they have a man here who know about the systems because he's a delveloper but people act like they still know more then him because he said things that's against their system,but he's not the only developer that said the same thing,i read a few articles where the developer said that the ps3 isn't more powerful then the 360 because of the way it's made.but still they have fanboys saying that they don't know what they are talking about well if they are right and he's wrong then why is it that
1st- the majarity of games that's on both system looks better on the 360
2nd-developers said that it's difficulity to program for because of the way it's made.
3rd-games for the ps3 is always postspone because they are having problems developeing them.

i'm not saying that the 360 is more powerful then the ps3 because it'isn't but the ps3 is more powerful then the 360.so instead of being stupid fanboys fighting over a kids game system like a bunch of 9 year olds on a school playground, they need to stop being bias and fact the facts,if you want to play all the good games you will need both systems and that's a fact i don't care what kind of spin you put on it and till the sony fans have proof that the ps3 is more powerful they need to face the fact and the same for the 360 fans.
so instead of making an a** of themselfs they need to just enjoy their game no matter what system they have and stop acting like they will get a % of the sells because they want receice a damn dime as a matter of fact micro and sony doesn't give a sh*t about them,so they need to stop acting an ass and just enjoy their games and act like a grownup instead of their shoesize.

Ignorant Fanboy3197d ago

His posts are so sloppy Im surprised he knows how to use a computer.

gerrard3197d ago

Oh really the PS3 isn't more powerfull than 360, doesn't need bluray?Tell that to naughtydogs and insomiac makers of Uncharted Drakes Fortune and Rachet and Clank: TOD

barom3197d ago

lol I guess there is a reason why he's a FORMER Harmonix developer.

KeiZka3197d ago

It seems to be allowed, at least when it's about x0/Wii bashing...

solidt123197d ago

I was never in to card games but I might get this game on the PS3.

b777conehead3197d ago

sticky blood mask the mart power of green doing the same on the 360 side as naism on the ps3 side

ry-guy3196d ago

Oh, so when it is someone posting a blog about how the Xbox 360 is inferior. Or that the Wii is underperforming, it becomes bashing?

This is probably on the better end of some of the blogs posted on N4G. This is an actual game developer who has dealt with the PS3 and is voicing his disdain for it while providing local and coherent arguements much better than the typical "PS3 4 14|=3!" or "PS3 has no RROD" or my personal favorite "We have Lair (control problems), Folklore (just a generally lack-luster game compared to the "excitement" people were for it), Ratchet & Clank (which is a great game), Uncharted (who knows), UT3 (which is multiplatform anyways), Jericho (was on alot of peoples lists for a while until reviews started leaking), Eye of Judgement (which is way too expensive in my opinion but a neat toy none-the-less), etc etc etc."

I'm tired of Xbox 360 fanboys boasting the numbers of sales and how the PS3 is getting stomped into the ground.
I am equally (if not more) getting tired with the Playstation 3 fanboys telling me their system is not underperforming and then spit out a list of games that have been announced from here until the next holiday season (and 3/4ths of those games, I bet, will perform below expectations).

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gamesR4fun3197d ago

wow this guy is being paid for this dont believe a word.

hazeblaze3197d ago

I very highly doubt he's being paid but he does seem to have his own agenda. For one, if we hadn't already seen games that look much more impressive on the PS3... such as Uncharted, MGS4, & GT5... then I could buy his story on the PS3 not truly being more powerful.

But the other thing is that there have been too many other devs stating that there is a lot of untapped power in the PS3 that gamers will really begin to see in the next few years, most notably is Mark Reins from Epic. And his word is a lot more credible to me than this guys.

The one thing I do agree with though... b/c of the additional coding and dev costs, most of the power we see for a while is going to come from the 1st party devs & 3rd party exclusives.

shmee3197d ago SpamShow
skarn3197d ago

Or he's no longer getting paid not to say it :P

Either way, this is great flame-war material, don't you think?

gamesR4fun3197d ago

fine if not paid then certainly biased and like I said b4 a lot of convenient anti ps3 spin here in NA just in time for the holidays...

s8anicslayer3197d ago

i bet that new company he left harmonix for is being fully funded by ms,that piece of sh!t!he may just have gotten fired ,but anyway who cares,the ps3 without a doubt is technological advanced then the 360,activision just said so,cod4 looks better on ps3,nuff said

wageslave3197d ago

Irrational PS3 Fanboy Excuses:

"this guy is being paid for this dont believe a word"
"I hate EA" (and UBI, Activision, Capcom, id, Epic, and 2K)
"EA is MS's b!tch"
"MS funds all review-sites"
"EA=Peter Moore"
"Just Wait"
"Just wait till 08"
"just wait till 09"
"Lazy"
"Lazy devs"
"lazy"
"EA sucks"
"EA can't make good games" (Battlefild, most sports titles, Burnout, The Sims and upcomming Crysis and Army of Two)
"f**k EA"
"wait"
"when"
"somday"
"fantasy"
"lie"
"f**k Peter Moore"
"f**k MS"
"EPIC UNREAL engine is CRAP supposedly"

sak5003196d ago

LOL @ Wageslave:

dont forget to add ubisoft and capcom to the list of M$ payroll

ubisoft=lazydevs
capcom=moneywhores

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Premonition3197d ago

He says he reads the forum, then read this, what game you made that takes advantage of the PS3's power, that guitar game aint nothin, so you keep talkin like you big in the game industry, probably one of those low type devs nothing compared to the bigger players like Unreal, Naughty Dog Valve and all the others.

SmokeyMcBear3197d ago

wow did you read the comments on his blog.. just completely obliterate his post.. wow.

drewdrakes3197d ago

Actually most of the comments were stupid and uninformed. One guy said that blu-ray reads just as fast as DVD, not true AT ALL from the speeds ive seen in the specs. Also some guy brought up Halo 3's 640p resolution...but failed to mention that it renders 2 frames at 640p each time, making it render the equivalent of 1.5 720p frames per frame.

Bleyd3197d ago (Edited 3197d ago )

The average read speed from a SL DVD is slightly faster than the read speed of a Blu-Ray disk. The average read speed of a DL DVD is slightly slower than the read speed of a Blu-Ray disk. The issue at hand is that most xbox 360 games require a DL DVD in order to have room for everything.

I'm sorry if you believe that rendering 640p twice is the same as 1.5 times the resolution of 720P. That's just wrong. You really should do your homework before you start posting things like this.

THUNDERMARE3197d ago

There has been a post about reading speed on BR and DVD if you follow the news from about 5-6 months ago, you will know that dual layers DVD actually run at relatively same, if not, slower than dual or single layers BR.
If you are arguing that single layer DVD reading speed is faster then I wouldnt disagree but note that no game in this generation use single layer DVD.

techie3197d ago

Haha that post was very ironic...well done. Did you know Killzone 2 multi-renders 4 times the 720p...meaning by your reckonings, it would be 2880p! Deary me.

drewdrakes3197d ago (Edited 3197d ago )

Actually I didnt say it was better then 720p I said it renders as many pixels as a 720p frame multiplied by 1.5. And the guy who said the thing about killzone, that would be inaccurate. It would be that in one dimension, but because all you did was multiply by 4, it would no longer be widescreen. The width and height would be drastically different then 16:9. It would be 1440p if thats what you were looking for...

hitthegspot3197d ago

Blu-Ray is 3 times the speed of DVD... You don't know how much I hated to say that..

read it here http://electronics.howstuff...

3rd page

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techie3197d ago

Not really much to talk about here. Just posted it on a real forum - Beyond3d seeing what they thought of it, and my post was deleted...explaining that was nothing of technical importance, or even accuracy in the blog post.

MikeGdaGod3197d ago

"The fill rate on the PS3 is significantly slower than on the 360, meaning that games either have to run at lower resolution or use simpler shader effects to achieve the same performance."

can someone name one game on the 360 that run native 1080p @ 60fps???

*crickets*

WAR_MACHINE773197d ago

that right there was what had me laughing. oh and the exclusives will always suck thing, lol, some one better get Kojima productions, Insomniac, Infinity Ward, Square Enix, and Naughty Dog on the phone and tell them their games will always suck. The fact that this all came from a guy that worked for Harmonix only makes it funnier, even their next gen games look like their PS2 counterparts.

sak5003196d ago

@scottie:

If 360 devs use same textures as p3 uses of ps2 then most games would end up @ 1080p @ 60fps. BUt the high rez textures and normal mapping on most objects in games like H3 takes most of the bandwith. Any game out there on ps3 which has bumped/normal mapped textures other than MS?