CNN's Charles Hodson asks gaming industry expert Rob Fahey why Sony's Playstation 3 is selling so poorly.
The truth of sony and co. is an inevitable. However software sales aren't where sony is making it's money, not with the ps3 anyways, ps2, now that's another story. But ps3........................... .......silence................. ..............cricket chirps.
So basically what he's saying is waste MORE of your time and money on the PS3. Don't ever listen to reality, don't ever take facts seriously. Were you ever part of the Bush admininstration, cause you'd fit right in. Support your console based on facts not a bunch of crap and call others Morons!
who approved this. Need I say who owns CNN?
According to your link, AOL Time Warner owns CNN, but then again, this article is from April 2003. Based on your evidence here, I fail to see any point you might be making.
but the ps3 is an excellent game console, it maybe sony's marketing strategy that's to blame.
How is PS3 an excellent gaming console if it does not have many great games and the multiplatform games are generally inferior?
PS3 might become an excellent gaming console in the near or faraway future, but until that hypothetical situation becomes a reality, PS3 now is a terrible gaming console but a great cheap blu-ray player.
maybe you've never played a playstation 3 so you can just shut the F up.(its hard to refrain from cursing as his stupidity is beyond belief)
I've played games like RFOM and MS and its still a POS console with cheap plastic controllers which feel like kids toy.
as transparent as I can, it's just that marketing strategies are the vehicle in which these games & game consoles reach the end user/gamer
What problem do you have with the controllers? They're great! Are they too light for you? Is it a bad thing that they're light? Are you going to try to tell me that xbox controllers are better and not made of "cheap plastic"? PS3 controllers have lithium ion batteries in for a start, which straight away beats xbox's AAs or £10 battery pack. (In case you didn't figure it out, that's one of the reasons it's lighter too.) The ps3 d pad is better and easier to reach. The whole controller is waaaay less bulky. The 360 controllers are less of an eyesore than the last xbox but they still ain't pretty.
If you want a bulkier, heavier, uglier ps3 controller then you can always get a 3rd party one.
Or it could be they don't really know what they're talking about. PS3 is ahead of the ps2 when it first launched. Maybe I just read all the good reports like Ps3 saling out on amazon, 960% sales increase and its not even christams yet. I don't believe its too far off from the first year the 360 launched.
I'll just sit back and watch history repeat itself. I remember the poor sales and non-exsistant software the ps2 had, all the difficulty in programing. Today the ps2 is the highest grossing game console.
I would say that the software for the PS3 has been better than the first year for the PS2, but the PS2 sold fantastic it's first year out. The biggest problem they faced was hardware shortages. Take a look at this link and you can see the amount of console shipped. Keep in mind these numbers are slightly higher than sold through numbers.
As stated time and time again. It does not matter that the PS3 is on track or is doing better than the PS2 at launch. The reason and it’s very simple, the PS2 didn’t have any competition, and so it could run at its own pace with no worries as long as it kept gaining ground. This time around Microsoft has a year lead and continues to put distance between the two consoles each month it out sells Sony. A large install base is what publishers want to see and compared to Microsoft and Nintendo, Sony just isn’t up to par. The larger the install base the more likely the console is to have a large diverse library of games which attracts in the end gamers of all types. So please save all of our brain cells and quit trying to make this argument. Sony has to sell at twice that of Microsoft if it wants to catch up.
Read somewhere today with those new financial reports that the PS3 has sold 5.6M world wide, which is about the same as the X360 over the same span and I dont remember hearing how the X360 was doing so horrible.
I think most people expect the PS3 to be a jaggernaught out of the gate selling 20M a year or something like that when it's just not gonna happen for a year or two more, and seriously by then it could be too late. People compare the sales of the PS3 to the PS2 WAY too much IMO, expecting it to pick up where the last gen left off..
If the ps3 sold the same amount next year, that it did this year... that would be 11.2 million. Which is the exact same amount the 360 did...
Where is the... poor sales part?
Same old, same old.
Exact same stories once in a while back in the first year of the PS2. Just sit back and enjoy R&C, Folklore,etc..we all know how this movie ends...
The reason is there was no next gen hardware to compare the 360 to.
fact of the matter is ps3 is doing remarkably well with stiff competition in wii's pricepoint( i had to get one becuz of price..........but lately theres a fvcking game drought.....my system has now been off for like 3 months). Then theres the 1 year head start by 360. in comparison the ps3 is doing mighty fine regarding the competition and the slew of ports that its getting. THOUGH ILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY that 95% percent of the first party titles are MUST owns.
ps3 is fine for a 1 year old system.Go ahead and make a list of sales/must have titles/graphic/audio accomplishments/whatever else you wanna add and compare both the 360's and ps3's FIRST YEAR(WHILE REMEMBERING THE 360 LAUNCHED WIT NO RIVALS IN THE MARKET). Then compare whos on good grounds.
The 360(kia sophia) had a head start off the line, but the Ps3(Ferrari)
is starting to gun the engine. The race is far from over. WE ALL KNOW THIS, JUST LOOK AT THE GAMES COMING OUT.
consider all this bullsh1t viral marketing.supported by xbots spewing hate on all forums accross th einternet. ps2 died a many deaths according to analysts/gamers way back when. Their thinking was proved wrong. lol ps1.... same sh1t. Sit back and let history repeat itself.
@#11.1: get your facts straight. mgs3 ALONE SOLD 15 mill on ps2.
Ps3 has sold the same amount of consoles(worldwide) the xbox 360 sold during its first financial years which mean it has sold better cause it hasnt been a year since its launch and if u want to look it in this way it has had no games until Rachet and clank as conclusion ill say that sony will win again due to the blu ray sup´remacy better tech and greph(yes idiot if u doubt it just name three games that look better than rachet and clank or NGsigma or GT5 or HS or Lair or that at least run natively at 1080p 60fps60 from ur crappy console)
xbox360 was not market leader like ps2 was. xbx360 has a big lead now.
Well it's not as if the 360 has set the world on fire with its sales up til now, and the PS3 in its first year is still behind that of the 360's first year. The Wii is trouncing the other 2 even though its not my cup of tea.
It wasn't to be found at most markets for the first 7 months. Sales would of been much larger during that period.
But, lets wait until this holiday season is over and look at numbers them. Should be quite interesting I'll bet.
The PlayStation 3 wasn't seen in its biggest market for 5 months after launch. Europe didn't get the PS3 for Christmas, this year will be the first... how is this going to end?
Edit: I'm not sure how anyone can disagree with fact. The PS3 launched in Europe in March...
yah the xbox had NO competition last year. Sony is doing well with 3 horses already out, if Xbox came out the same time as Sony, story would be different. You gotta take the competition into account and then now u look at how sony's doing, not too bad.
it was sold out becus there were no other next gen systems.
wii is sold out becus of gimmick and price.
First of all stop the comparisons, the PS3 and X360, if you really want to make a compare, then the PS3 should not be on the market at the moment, when the PS2 was first on the market, the only other console was DC (Dreamcast) which was just as powerful as the PS2 but could not compete with the marketing push that Sony gave the PS2 was never before seen for a console in gaming history, hype rules all, Sony hype killed the DC three later, MS enters the console race about 3 and half yrs later and by that time Sony had a massive advantage, so my friend for those who remember what happened back will understand, the next time those PS3 fans try to defend the yr advantage of the 360, just say no contess, 3yrs launch between PS2 and Xbox, if Xbox had been launch at the same time thinks would be different, in fact i'm sure that the Xbox would have destroyed the PS2 in one word XBOX LIVE the PS2 network never got of the ground, even DC network was better, online out of the box. So a yrs is not long in gaming industry, so let the chips fly, PS3 owners you may think that i'm been bias but i like everyone to be happy not lied too, out of all of my 21 friends 3 have PS3 and 2 have x360, i think that in time the power of the PS3 will arrive but not at the moment, in the game industry power means nothing, movies may sell but game developer can afford to spend 80mill or around price to dev a game that may never sell. look lair apart from PS3 mag every mag has called this game a beautiful error in gaming looks good plays like the dev forgot and the controls and more, question how much did factor 5 spend, MGS4 will i don't want to imagine how much was spent but with the rumors of MS in talks with Konami about MSG4 and almost finalising the port of the white engine to 360, i mean can you believe that Konami wants MS to pay what it cost to make the game for PS3 in order to port the 360. That says the game is more ready. Why is it not released.
that was ONE year after ps2 and 360 came out ONE year after ps3
This is breaking news?
-edit- Hmm, seemed to have gotten three disagrees. Anyone care to argue?
Trolls like Bloodmask and Nasim make me hate coming here sometimes. I know their "Stories" and "Breaking News" get N4G a lot of hits (I.E. AD money) but they are getting old really fast. I wish something would be done about the story approval system that would stop this stupidity and make this site actually about news and not a "Fanboy Fight Club".
Ratchet & Clank and The Eye of Judgement just came out. I think it'll bounce back.
I remember that same saying..
Lair, Warhawk and Heavenly Sword just came out. I think it'll bounce back. "
You look at the sales and those 3 games, I do not think they have hit 500k.
See the Ps3 has problems with Game attach rate, besides dev having issues with the Cell.
I 'm willing to bet more ps3 owners have blu-ray movies then games. they say wait, but if and when the games come out and when they do, it's "Not the Games" that spur sales but another smoke and mirror price drop. 2 in like less than a year.
so it's not that it's doing poor but the games is suppose to be the most important part and the games are not selling the console. blu-ray movies and a price drop has spurred SHORT TEMP sales.
lair and heavenly sword could have been better, but they weren't bad games. It takes more than 3 games to sell a system and at the moment with the untrained eye if people go into a store they will look at the libraries of software and see more games for the 360. Of course this will change, and a lot of people will get both systems 360 one year and PS3 the next year.
Once the games in development come out and stop all the delays I think things will look a little different.
And just for the record, I have 6 PS3 games and 3 BlueRay discs.
Haha, oh man, this site is just the worst sometimes.
Breaking news: new flamebait post!
I wanna go back to the good old days, when comments were both relevant and unbiased.
Mais, hélas, ça va jamais arriver!
5+ million @ almost 600$ for the majority of its (current) life cycle, and it's selling poorly? CNN needs new economic analysts.
Hey everybody LOOK, bloodmask with his Ken Kutaragi Pics again. LOL
I'm right their with you on that one. Poor guy must really want them points.....
Every day he posts a "Poor PS3 sales" article with a Ken Kutaragi picture, which is pretty stupid considering he's retired. Even with the huge sales jump in Europe, he still puts these up as if it's breaking news (and truthful). Hell, the Xbox 360 was at 6 million units at this exact same point last year, so...
Sorry, But its getting to the point to where Bloodmask is getting to be a major d!ck. Glad you brought it up XxZz, now I know who is pulling this crap.
@Bloodmask, stop with the Ken K. pics,
@Bloodmask, stop with the Ken K. pics,
@Bloodmask, stop with the Ken K. pics,
@Bloodmask, stop with the Ken K. pics,
Look at the ps3 in the picture, its humongous! Someone photoshopped that picture to make the ps3 look huge and thus make Ken K. look tiny.
Low blow Xbot, low blow.
EDIT: the link is the original picture which is NOT photoshopped.
im so sick of these childish antics.
Nothing gets by you does it?
why is it that they only sold 3 million more since JANUARY.
since you use that argument though, i could say the ps3 was at 600 dollars and still has sold 6 million. and i dont think people really realize how much LBP and mgs4 are going to sell systems. i guess im just gonna have to wait for them to come out so people can see
with the Sony Motto
"i guess im just gonna have to wait for them to come out so people can see"
We have heard this before...it's like saying all the game sony has till MGS is not worth the wait....
A console is not built on just 3 games...which not everyone will buy looking at past history.
PS3 has 7-10 years life span, so who cares it didn't even sell this year. i am enjoying resistance, motorstorm, warhawk, ratchet TOD, F1, heavenly sword, lair, nba 2k08, and next will UT3, uncharted, GT5, KZ2, MGS4. OK PS3 failed, but not for me! I am enjoying my baby for the next 6 years, just spend my money on games, NOT hardware every 2 years ;)aha
Haha losers... this doesn't even talk about "bad" PS3 sales, it talks about the sales they lost having the most expensive system.... Bloodmask you're a little b!tch and I can't wait to you get pwned year after year in not long. You dedicate YOUR life to trashing a system better than yours becuase I guess you're just not happy with Halo 3. I wou;dn't blame you I'm not either. The Ps3 has home coming next year. The PS3 has alll the big exclusives coming the rest of this year all of next year and the next. The PS3 has sold almost exactly the amount the junkbox 360 has at a 200$ higher price, and the 360 had its whole first year to itself....while the PS3 sales just as well fighting two other consoles and no big franchises coming until next year. Just like activision said... the PS3 is a much stronger console and u will continue to se that. Just like u ALREADY DO. The 360 cannot do what the PS3 is doing anymore. It's not the PS3 get over it. Stop crying and making up things just because your mommy won't buy you one and you thought Halo 3 was going to be good and its not , you're already bored so.... lets trash the PS3 for 2 more years until its a price I can afford it. Your all losers. The majority of you will have one in a couple of years... it will be out way longer than the stinkbox and the controllers are not cheap douchebag razer. The PS3 now has rumble, tilt, USB charge ports and a lithiium ION battery so you don't have to put in AA batteris like the junkbox... that is a toy. You put batteries into toys. Nice products come with batteries for u. You don't get bLuray. Go cry about it. You don't get blue tooth. You don't get online browsers. You don't get PS home.. maybe something Microsoft will try to copy again though...Just yesterday I playd Uno with 3 other people ...one of them just bought an elie, he said 5 days ago and isn't it funny how we were ALLLL saying how Halo3 sucks...even the guy who just bought his.... and especailly us other three guys. We were talking about how 360 fans try to act like there is all these great exclusives but where are they.... Gears was cool for a year now... ok. Bioshock was good for a few days LOL LOL Halo sucks something pathetic. What else? PGR4 LOL LOL LOLHALO WARS LOL LOL We were alll agreeing that we wish we woulod have waited... and got a pS3. Dude people arent stupid you [email protected]
The interview says nothing about poor sale of the PS3. This title is completely misleading. All it talks about is the loss Sony takes because the PS3 cost more to make then they sell it for.
How does this have to do with xbox 360, and wii. Thanks for fixing my bad edit bloodmask.
Wii PC PSP DS Mobile Gaming Industry Dev Tech
You forget these sections.
here we go again.
is this the only bad ps3 news? The same thing over and over again?
I think people were expecting sony's ps3 to have the same sucess of the wii, to just blow away the consumers.
However, that did'nt happen, instead it sold on the 360's rate.
what IS HAPPENING IS THAT THE MEDIA WAS AWAITING THIS ALL ALONG, IT'S THE PERFECT STORY.THE KINGLOSES HIS THRONE AFTER 2 GENS OF DOMINATION.
That's why they critizize it, that and the fact more was expected from the ps3.
How many more hits can the Playstation brandname take? I mean. How can they possibly turn around the popular sentiment that the Ps3 is a waste of money?
It's still going to be a year before the Ps3 even releases it's heavy hitters. How long can it last without them? I'm not saying it's just going to dissapear. But if opinions continue the way they are I don't see the Ps3 ever leaving 3rd place this gen.
Because everything in the world gets criticized. Xbox 360, and ps3 have been criticized numerous times about sales. So what? It will still have great games.
I'm pleased that the expensive ps3 with competition from wii and 360 has sold almost as well as xbox 360 with no competition.
history repeats itself. theres 90 million gamers still holding onto their ps2s.
#21: MAD PROPS. u noticed everything.
i support your comment regarding the wii. its a fvcking cash cow at that price/craftsmanship, but alas the hype is doing down. nintendo might pull a 3 year cycle with the wii and I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF THEY COME OUT WITH A "HEAVY GRAPHICAL MACHINE AT A LOW COST"
I said it the other day, these [email protected]
@#22 dude thats themart aka firstknight aka bloodmask. how u think HE keeps his bubbles up?
as stated above by others the PS3 is the most expensive of the three and if they managed to actually get 5.5 million ppl to buy the console how is that a failure when it sold the same amount as the 360 did in it's first year..and sales are begining to rise so how is it doing poorly....I think ppl were expecting the PS3 to come and out and sell 20 mill in it's first year...
Bloodmask flops again.
People really make too much of a big deal about console sales, they are important, but gee, no biggie. The ps3 is getting its games, and its improving.
Now perhaps for a company like sony(being their third generation after all), they should be doing better than they are. I'm surprised sony fans and fanboys even compare it to the 360 if its far superior to it, and if its true that its doing so bad. If so, why are you even using it as an excuse? That just struck me funny, but that could also be said for the other side.
Sony did have a slow start but they are gaining ground. I think its just since sony has been in the game for a while people were expecting better results. We will see what happens though since the ps3's price dropped and more games are coming out for it. Chances are the ps3 sales will skyrocket.
Then you have Microsoft overhyping games as well like halo 3 to death as well, and the whole faulty hardware(which in many ways i don't get, the first xbox was freaking indestructible, and was fairly reliable at least compared to the 360 which isn't saying much i guess :P).
Then you have the wii.
this generation is going to probably be a lot more even without the 90 mil margin.
Whether you guys on both sides like it or not, Sony and Msoft have to learn not to overhype things or at least say them at the right time. I.E 1080p(Msoft) is not needed, 4d graphics(perhaps sony should've started saying stuff like that around now or in a year), etc.
If ones thing annoys me, its a lot of advertising done by both companies. I try to ignore it as much as possible. I did it with halo 3 and will with mgs4 KZ2 etc.
Personally i think both could do so much better than they are now. Fortunetly I have seen some amazing stuff on both systems, and i like both consoles a lot. And its looking better as time goes on. So really is it that bad?(that almost sounds like i am contradicting my self, however things are looking up for both consoles)
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Super nice post. I'd give ya bubbles, but I doubt you need 'em.;)
What gets to me is that this site no longer reflects reality of the gaming. No one is as much biased towards a console that the people on this site. While some good stories make it through here, the ones who always get the attention is stuff like this useless article.
For example. The whole R&C thing is just ridiculous. It's like Sony fanboys are logged on to metacritics are hold on to see if the game will drop below 9.0, and xbox are there, praying that it does.
Now step back and think about it for a second. That is one of the most stupid things I've heard of.
Sales are sales, and to steal a line from you "they are important, but gee, no biggie". They're not meant to live or die by. Ps3 has great features and games, and so does the 360.
Anyways, sorry for the rant. It's just sometimes you step back and take a look at this site, and it's all BS. No one takes the console war as seriously as people on this site. Not even Sony, MS nor Nintendo.
bubbles for both you too. My God, that was beautiful...
great post! :o)
well So, Ratchet came out and blew away everyones who didn't already know Ratchet would pwn. a console selling primarily at 600 bucks since launch in 2 markets alone for 5 months before going worldwide, and is at the same place where it's competition was at in it's first year a head of the PS3, right now. and it just received some pretty solid software from First party. and 3rd party software are hitting day and date with it's competition, and has recently and officially cut prices on the PS3 world wide and is about to introduce a new model priced at a mass market price point, and it still msold in excess of 5.6 million worldwide with stiff competition from xbox 360 Wii, and PS2... yep....
flame bait for bubble snatching fankids and trolls?... Yes
this is hardly concievable as news. when you shed light and do homework on the matter you actually find that the PS3 is sell quite well. steady just like the 360... and at this point the ps3's only problem is the Wii. and I believe that Something that flys out of the gate like that eventually runs out of steam. The DS while it is a runaway success it's loosing steam now, and the Wii is starting as well. while i will say that it will sell amazingly this christmas, because of mario, after christmas the market will be a different place.
we'll leave it at that..
I was browsing the internet randomly and suddenly a pop up appeared showing the most retarded fanboys on the internet...
and yep... Bloodmask was in the top 5
here's Bloodmask picture
PS: We really need to get this nerd a girlfriend... even if it's inflatable (with a master chief helmet of course)..
Is it really bloodmask or is it a joke? Damn, if he really looks like that, then I feel pity for him.
I would be tempted to believe it, but i think sony has some rights over ghostbusters, so you know he'd never wear that shirt.
PS3 sales wont really take off until its priced competitively and has launched its heavy hitters. Expect wonders after home launches etc. Its just getting started. Yah the ps3's sales figures arent poor. Its price point clearly shows why its slow to hit the masses.As price drops sales increase.
rules daddy and mummy!
thats why they buy it for the kids.
I just want to ask would all of the Xbox fans have bought the 360 if it cost 650 dollars when it was released? So personally i think it is doing relatively well considering price point. Also just a few weeks ago wasn't it shown that the ps3 was on par with the 360 in terms of sales for the first 11 months. Considering all variables i believe that it is doing fine. if there is any evidence that contradicts what i am saying please point me in the right direction. ie Xbox 360 sales in the first 11 months that utterly shatter ps3 sales, hate to reiterate what i already said but it is doing fine and with the new price point i believe they have a justifiable shot at taking second place behind the Wii.
PS3 is being left behind in the Market. People have made their choices for the most part. Everyone who isn't a hater would love to have a PS3, but for most people, they cost too much, so it isn't really an option. I would say that Sony should just bite the bullet and deal with taking whatever kind of loss it takes per console in order to make it affordable to the common man. However, since 3rd party developers are having so much trouble creating games, and spending so much money, they pretty much can't rely on that.
All of that being said, here is my prediction: IF GOW 3 and FFXIII come out on time next year with no hitches or drawbacks, then the PS3 will survive. Yes, there will be other good games for the PS3 next year, but I believe that it is those two games that will make people dig a little deeper and go ahead and spend the money. IF Square Enix is having trouble and has to delay until 2009? The PS3 may not survive this round, and Square Enix may even decide to release the game on other consoles. But if everything works out good, then the rest of the almost certain to be delays for this system such as Fallout 3 won't kill them.
If things go well with those two games next year for Sony, I predict that the PS3 may pull to within 2/3-3/4 of total 360 sales by the end of the 2008 Holiday season. 3rd party developers will have a better feel for the machine, and will begin to trickle back to them. Nintendo will continue to be behind on production for the Wii through the beginning of next fall, but have plenty for the 2008 holiday season, by which time Super Mario Galaxy and SSBB will still be selling like hot-cakes, which means that if the Wii is to be caught, it won't happen before 2009. By which time, The Legend of Zelda: A link to the Future should be ready, and we may have a full fledged 3 way race, with Nintendo having the edge. But all 3 consoles having good sales, and a gaming market much larger than EVER before. Who loses? No one. Which is a good thing. I sure hope Sony is pouring every effort into helping Square Enix maximize the hardware.