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Submitted by ShadyDevil 1185d ago | opinion piece

No Kojima? Did Sony Just Lose E3?

TGH Writes: "Now hear me out. The PSN is still in recovery mode, technically and mentally. Sony is still trying to think of ways to recoup their losses which are estimated in the billions. Now comes word that Kojima will not be attending, one of their key people in the Sony community who has always been a major supporter of their hardware. Could this mean do or die time for Sony?" (Industry, PS3, Sony)

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Seijoru  +   1185d ago | Well said
Wtf
bageara  +   1185d ago
This retarded article
is bound to get approved
captain-obvious  +   1185d ago
just reading the title it self hurts my brain
I_find_it_funny  +   1185d ago
^^^ :)

fail article at it's best
coryok  +   1185d ago
LMAO nice call, its approved
DarkFantasy  +   1185d ago
no Kojima = Sony losing e3 ? WTF.. OK firstly I don't give a shit about Kojima I'm not a fan of his work i know many people are but I've managed to go through ps1,ps2,ps3 with out him what the f*ck makes him all high and mighty that Sony is going to fail if 1 guy doesn't show up..

secondly this guy is playing both sides first there gonna fail now they got some thing up there selves make up your mind..

and 3rd but most importantly E3 IS NOT A DAMN CONTEST!!!! it's a trade show!!!!

tho some thing from valve would be really cool i just want to know what vavle has been up to there like the biggest mystery around,who the heck knows what there doing but it better be half life episode 3 or half life 1 remake lol
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kerrak  +   1185d ago
Just because a lot of people don't know this feature i'll comment here:
You can vote down this (or any crappy) site.
Click "thegamershub.net +" just under "Read full story" then clik "No".
Adding comments just increases heat.
zootang  +   1185d ago
So does this mean MS has lost this generation because it has no Metal Gear Solid game?

Did I really just type that.
jessupj  +   1185d ago
Read the whole artile people!
tehpees3  +   1185d ago
whats even more stupid than the article itself is the fact this trash got approved
blumatt  +   1185d ago
@kerrak
Yeah, I found out about that feature awhile back. I already did it. I put "wtf" and "no". haha This article is ridiculous. Sony's not the company that puts all its eggs in one basket. They have TONS of other first and second party studio support. Sony isn't reliant on third parties for THEIR console.

One developer not having a game for Sony's E3 will not make or break it. Sony knows how to keep a slew of games flowing all year long for its console. It doesn't just wait til the end of each year and drop the same couple of titles with a new number on it.

This article is one of the worst I've ever seen on n4g, and that says alot. lol

Not only that, but Jaffe said he wasn't going to be at last year's E3 and HE ended up showing up anyway, so Kojima might just be pulling a "Jaffe" and trying to make his appearance a surprise.
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darkpower  +   1185d ago
@jessupj
Since when do people ever do that here on N4G?

I read the entire thing, and it's actually giving the possible reasons why one would say yes or no to the question. They didn't give their own opinions, just their reasons why they MIGHT be saying yes or no.

Then again, remember what site's users you're trying to convince.
morganfell  +   1185d ago
A ridiculous article so take the proper action.

Underneath "Read full story" click on "thegamershub.net -" and then give the story and the website the appropriate rating. WTF and No.

If they are going to publish nonsensical crap stories then they will be treated like a nonsensical crap website.
evrfighter1  +   1185d ago
wish you d-bags would do that with HHG articles.

It's not like Kojima matters anymore to begin with though. He's been riding Metal Gear so hard this gen he won't be able to walk right for years. Carmack and Newell have left this dude in the dust.

The guy's a one trick pony. ZoE is cult status AT BEST. It's not even that great just Kojima fanboy's like to overhype it.

you heard it here first. His first title on ps4 will be yet ANOTHER Metal Gear title.
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kikizoo  +   1184d ago
How many new u.s xfantard's blogs articles on n4G in 2011 ?

More than ever, that's for sure..
xabmol  +   1184d ago
DOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMED!!!
malamdra  +   1184d ago
Kojima is not real, your parent should've told you when you entered puberty

they just take some skinny guys and put them in glasses, don't tell me you haven't notice how he never seems to age?
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socomnick  +   1184d ago
Sony hasn't won an e3 since 2005.

Sony just lacks showmanship. They need to up their production values and get real presenters not Trenton he is really bad and gets nervous.
karl  +   1184d ago
@socomnick

yeah... they need cirque de soleil right?

SONY has all the games... what else do they need for a gaming console soo all this people trashing them start to support playstation?

oh thats right .. they need to call it the xbox..

and then with nothing but Multiplatform games everyone would be happy
EazyC  +   1185d ago
M$ best not pull "Skittles" and pals back out of their ass again for E3 2011 or the Japs will reign supreme again
Catatafish  +   1185d ago
Pew pew pew lol
lowcarb  +   1185d ago
"Skittles and pals"

WTF...hilarious!
WetN00dle69  +   1185d ago
Its "or the Japanese", You ignorant ****!
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KingSlayer  +   1185d ago
"Japs" is offensive man. This ain't 1945.
graemed-ps3  +   1185d ago
Thats like calling a britsih person a brit! How is that offensive?
YogiBear  +   1185d ago
@ Wetnoodle69 and Kingslayer

Grow spines, both of you.
WetN00dle69  +   1185d ago
@graemed-ps3

NO, That word is as if you were using the N word or any other racial slur out there. And yes both the word you said and the one he said are both quite offensive!
WetN00dle69  +   1185d ago
@YogiBear

lol, okay so Kingslayer and i are both spineless cause were are not ignorant S.O.B's?
Sounds good to me, id much rather be spineless than ignorant.
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Louis_Guzman  +   1185d ago
@Easyc and Yogibear: "Japs" huh? Ok, I'm just going to step away from your little cross burning. Hood wearing racists.
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KingSlayer  +   1185d ago
@ Yogi
What the hell do spines have to do with anything? Not that I expect you to answer with any intelligence, it's just your spine comment is as lame as your handle.
darkride66  +   1185d ago
Stop it Skittles! That tickles!

And as for the "japs" thing, "Jap" was a shortened form, back in the 1800's but became used as an ethnic slur during WWII. Pretty much every dictionary out there now agrees - it's pretty damn offensive. It's not even close to "brits"
"Brits" isn't widely used as an ethnic slur.

This reminds me when I came across some Americans arguing with some Brits on Call of Duty about how the n-word isn't racist and it's ok to yell at everyone. It was ignorance flagrantly flirting with idiocy.

Get informed. If you think a term might be culturally insensitive for whatever reason, doesn't it make more sense to just not use it until you can verify if it's actually offensive or not? That just seems like common sense to me. I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm actually fairly well traveled and genuinely respectful of other people. Who knows.
FalconR289  +   1184d ago
I find it offensive that everyone is offended by this. Why does everyone have to be politicaly correct these days?
ChrisW  +   1184d ago
Saying "Japs" is offensive. It's not a matter of being politically correct or what not, it's just offensive. It's as offensive as calling someone white trash, spook, spik, towlhead or whatever would make them upset.

[For the aforementioned vulgarities, I apologize. But I feel that it was necessary to equate the level to help EasyC and others understand.]
Istanbull  +   1185d ago
This idiot who wrote this article needs to educate himself, he says: "Sony is still trying to think of ways to recoup their losses which are estimated in the billions"

LOL! He thinks those losses come from PSN outage but in fact those losses come because Sony paid their taxes years in advance and increased R&D expenditure.

Also: HOW MANY times did Kojima show up at Sony's E3? Kojima showed up at MS E3, did Sony lose and die all of a sudden?

With all the exclusives, NGP news and other great things from Sony, there are still some people trying to figure out how to complain.
WitWolfy   1185d ago | Offensive
Jezuz  +   1185d ago
Yea, he has to defend everything seriously. We (or most of us) all know what you said already Istanbull.
Joe2911  +   1185d ago
You're a bit of an idiot saying Sony didn't lose anything from the PSN outage
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Eamon  +   1185d ago
While he does come off as a whiny bitch most of what he said is right.

The incorrect thing he said was that Sony did not lose money out of PSN outage.

Of course they did, they lost money from the 3-4 weeks of revenue they could have made from arcade, indie, DLC etc. They've also tried to compensate PSN users with free goodies that they could have profited from. They've probably invested in a new security system (maybe lol).
Joe2911  +   1185d ago
I don't get why I got so many disagrees for pointing out the only thing that was incorrect.
M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L  +   1185d ago
I like how you guys thought he was whining when he was right to begin with.
miDnIghtEr  +   1185d ago
@istanbull

you are out of your mind! here's a link for you to read. they lost lots of money. http://showtimeforfree.com/...
Joe2911  +   1185d ago
Careful, he will send you a well constructed PM in a couple hours, telling you to read his comment again and that it would make sense.

But it still doesn't to me, I still read it saying that Sony didn't lose anything out of PSN outage, when obviously they did.
oneDMAC  +   1185d ago
I thought Sony had stated that the PSN outage only equated to about $170 million? And the way I read instanbulls comment was that the entire billions that were stated were not because of the PSN outage. This would in fact be true if the stated $170 mill were accurate. After reading all of your comments again it almost appears that some of you either haver no reading comprehension or you like drama.
ryan_s  +   1185d ago
tell me about it these days gamers know more about games than gaming websites
the_best_player  +   1185d ago
Sony has too many games to lose E3, if anyone was to lose it would most likey be M$ because of the lack of First Party Games.

MGS5 would be only PS3 if they don't want the game limited because of 360
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Joe2911  +   1185d ago
One console doesn't limit the other.

360 can make good looking games, PS3 can make good looking games too. As soon as it goes multiplat, they cannot get close to how their exclusives look. Not because PS3 is limited by 360 or 360 is limited by ps3, they both limit each other.

For instance, PS3 requires a harddrive install because the blu-ray drive is too slow, where as the 360 can read everything off a disc. PS3 can hold more data whereas 360 can't. They are all limitations of the hardware.
pixelsword  +   1185d ago
Not really, joe; the 360 does limit games. For example, GTA 4 had the smallest 3d city and R@ge lost a faction (1/3 of the game). On yhe other hand of your comment, the PS3 doesn't limit games. Uncharted 1&2 were some of the most graphic intensive games out, but they didn't load. Neither did GoW III, Killzone 3, or Heavenly Sword. It's the experience, not the hardware, that makes the difference in terms of loading. Even if the PS3 required installs for all of its games it wouldn't hinder the 360. A small disc Does hinder multiplatform games.
evrfighter1  +   1185d ago
ps3 is already making ff14 extremely limited. Don't know what you're talking about.
djreplay  +   1185d ago
It doesn't mean his games won't be there
M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L  +   1185d ago
Exactly what I thought.
sourav93  +   1185d ago
Read the article before commenting people!
hiredhelp  +   1185d ago
Hes a idiot, knows nothing obviously a opion pieace.
By the way the store isnt meant to be opening today they stated end of the month. Its the 30th. Theres 31 days..

"now here me out". LOL

Sony have lost alot of money they still not charging us to play online. They not raised the ps3. Prices. I dont asume psn store prices change much to make a differnce.
The games will sale the consoles. Ngp will sell well they will slowly regain ground.

But this doesnt mean there lagging behind to me there in first place. More more owners have 360. And ps3. Well 2. Years ago that wasnt happening.

Oh for the record they still paying alot money keeping company's running there servers for them.. Stupid lame article.
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UnbiasedGamer  +   1185d ago
Metal Gear Solid 5 - Exclusive = Mind Blown and people will forget about this diabolical incident. I don't think this PSN catastrophe will ever be forgotten.
showtimefolks  +   1185d ago
i just got one question
last year it was david jaffe and valve who said they won't be at e3 than what happend?

my thing is e3 is about surprises i fully expect kojima at e3.

also this may shock some people i also fully expect half life 3
dantesparda  +   1185d ago
Well then that means that MS also loses if they arent in their show, oh and how about Bungie? are they making a appearance in MS' show? if not then instant fail. Or Epic? hmm
Vherostar  +   1185d ago
This article is massive fail especially since the latest MGS title is multi platform.
doughboy2008  +   1184d ago
How do you lose E3?
Rettom  +   1184d ago
That's what I put for Story Quality rating.
TheMrMadzen  +   1185d ago
No, they did not
ShadyDevil  +   1185d ago
Its not a one sided article both points are represented.
trounbyfire  +   1185d ago
what points are there its 100% ridiculously absurd to attempt a conversation on this topic.

"Sony is still trying to think of ways to recoup their losses which are estimated in the billions"

the division including Playstation made a profit, so what does saying that have to do with anything?
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ShadyDevil  +   1185d ago
How did they make a profit? Seriously, the losses are pretty bad dude. Show me the evidence. SCEA reps have said the losses are very bad. I mean we will see at E3 as they will likely mention the stats.
reaver  +   1185d ago
Playstation did make a profit and the 3 billion net loss where pre paid taxes.
http://www.gamersmint.com/s...
Edit.
Why would Sony lose E3 because Kojima is not coming?And just imagine if it was a joke from Kojima,than according to you it would be an instant win for Sony.
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ps92117  +   1185d ago
Serious question.

Are you intentionally trolling?

How did you manage to become an editor?

What is your IQ and level of education?
Baka-akaB  +   1185d ago
"Its not a one sided article"

Well it's not even an article .. it's a kid's essay
onanie  +   1185d ago
@ShadyDevil,

Perhaps, with the link from reaver, you could fix your article to the effect that "both points" are actually represented. In its current state, it is as one sided as biased crap goes.
HuGi  +   1185d ago
i thought Kojima was going
to be at MS Press like 2 last years?
Wizziokid  +   1185d ago
Nintendo will probably get the most attention with the new console but between sony and ms, sony will win in terms of exclusives since they have more and better ones on offer.

MS will probably focus mainly on Kinect crap again than Hardcore stuff, not saying they wont have any hardcore titles because they will but, for the most part, I expect Kinect.
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Kamikaze135  +   1185d ago
This article is retarded.

1) Sony has the NGP
2) PSP HD re-releases
3) Unanounces exclusives from other developers
4) Ton of new info on NGP related stuff
5) Kojima doesn't have to be there to have trailers for his games play on the screen.

They make it seem like Kojima is Sonys only hope,lol. This article is retarded.
Zir0  +   1185d ago
It was going to take more than MGS5 to win Sony E3 anyway.
KonaBro  +   1185d ago
And....
It's going to take a number of years before you ever see more then one bubble you troll.
Kurylo3d  +   1185d ago
hows he trolling? the dudes right. im the biggest metal gear fan, but 1 game isnt going to make the difference.

I have more bubbles then u kona bro, does that mean my words are somehow more valid?
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KonaBro  +   1185d ago | Well said
He's trolling....
because he's making an assumption that people think Sony is going to win E3 based on one game. Also judging by his many previous posts, he blantantly trolls Sony news articles. Whether you want to be ignorant of that, be my guest. However, it's obvious he makes multiple inflammatory statements or else he wouldn't have only 1 bubble. There's no defending that.
Kurylo3d  +   1185d ago
dude ive got shot down from 6 bubbles right down 1 ... from 1 post... thats N4g. Worst part is my post wasnt even anti sony. It was simply a positive thought on a microsoft game. Thats just this website at the end of the day.
Eamon  +   1185d ago
Didn't you know? Speaking sense it taboo here at N4G?
Why o why  +   1185d ago
anybody who knows zir0 knows hes a troll..stop trying to be noble and defend the undefendable. Hes a troll. Sony have never 'won' an e3 with 1 game but i do remember some thinking MS 'won' a couple e3s with a multiplatform game, one of which STILL hasn't been released.

Whoever brings the most games that interests me to e3 will 'win' Its the same for every other individual. Not everybody will like sony, nintendo or MS's offering but we ALL know who brings the least. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be enjoyed or downplayed but im a guy that likes variety and has enough time to play many games. How times have changed huh

Just about to go get my copy if infamous 2....ill see you guys in a couple;)
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Baka-akaB  +   1185d ago
you dont win a press conference to begin with .

If it truly mattered , Sony's console division would have closed after the infamous E3 '06
MysticStrummer  +   1185d ago
Yes. ZirO is indeed a troll. OT - No, they didn't.
Tr10wn  +   1185d ago
@Kurylo3d
I'm the biggest MGS fan out there GTFO....
Reborn  +   1185d ago
There's plenty of things involved in Sonys E3. I don't see how its all based on Kojima being there...
mafiahajeri  +   1185d ago
No they WON e3 when they announced that there conference would last 5 hours...
DaBadGuy  +   1185d ago
Did they announce that or was that just in that article? I checked the guide on my tv and there is a five hour conference but it says Spotlight: Ubisoft and Sony.

I could be wrong or Comcast could be wrong but I think that they just may be doing Sony and Ubisoft's conferences back to back in one five hour program on G4.

On topic, Kojima is huge and I was looking forward to seeing something at E3. Sony and MS are ruled out, that just leaves Nintendo. I'm thinking MGS3D will be shown and oh idk MGS4 port to cafe? lol. Just kidding, but I do hope that he will appear sometime during the show.
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ThePsychoGamer  +   1185d ago
Sony said there E3 event will be 5 hours long, 90 minutes of which will be the actual Press conference. The rest will be for other things.
Verminox  +   1185d ago
Kojima could announce stuff at the Konami event on 2nd June.

And whats with this 'winning' E3, is there some sort of prize at the end? Everyone wins because we get a load new stuff announced and shown off.
corroios  +   1185d ago
Yes it did, because Sony just have one or two exclusives for this year e maybe, maybe one more for 2012. Its game over for Sony..... They are, wait for it, Dooooooomed..
extermin8or  +   1185d ago
WTF? infamous 2, resistance 3, uncharted 3, The Last Guardian and they've already announced starhawk... makes me think there will be new stuff at E3 and also NGP stuff will be big I should expect
Darth Stewie  +   1185d ago
Next were gonna get a article no Rockstar or Valve? Did (Insert one of big 3) just lose E3? What a stupid article
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VampiricDragon  +   1185d ago
how can someone lose when the game hasnt been played yet?
creamsoda  +   1185d ago
he's probably busy working on the project which isn't finished yet.

plus isn't mgs rising gonna be at e3 this year?
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waltyftm  +   1185d ago
Article FAIL.
iNFAMOUZ1  +   1185d ago
here we go again..
extermin8or  +   1185d ago
Um kojima says most years that he's not going doesn't he? or that there will be no announcements.... and last year did valve not say they weren't going then BAM!
RAmar101  +   1185d ago
lmao what a fail article
BlmThug  +   1185d ago
Sony Is Not A One Man Rockband. So Kojima Isn't Attending, Sony Has Plenty Of Other Developers
ryan_s  +   1185d ago
wtf Kojima showing up or not is Konami fail or win
digimau  +   1185d ago
Sony loses? Stupid article

FY 2011 Sony operative: +2,4 Bilions $
Gaming Sector: + 0,5 Bilions $

Future Loses for PSN Down: 0,3 Bilions $

And Kojima= Future of Sony?? No!

LOLLLL
Rai  +   1185d ago
Kojima is overrated...
waltyftm  +   1185d ago
I have to disagree with you there, The guy is a legend who creates nothing but masterpieces.
MysticStrummer  +   1185d ago
...and I have to disagree with you there. The Metal Gear series is one of the greatest ever, but Zone of the Enders... well I can't for the life of me figure out why people clamor for another one of those. It's like cross game chat... I just don't see the appeal.
LightofDarkness  +   1185d ago
He's a very good developer, but seriously, he is a tad overrated. Especially around here, you'd swear that people were collecting his faeces for nuggets of genius.
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hellzsupernova  +   1184d ago
agree
mastiffchild  +   1185d ago
Again with a "win" E3 article. You cannot "win"what amounts to a massive gaming press junket where the industry wastes a shedload of time and money(money WE all made fo r them too!)where they pointlessly show stuff off they could have done better, and cheaper, by not going and by nearly ANY other means of communication. It's my biggest issue with gaming tbh as E3 gets more idiotic year on year and so do the conversations and ideas surrounding "winning" the sodding thing.

All down to the taste of any individual watcher.
Veeger  +   1185d ago
I lost a braincell reading the title. I'm not risking more.
Ninver  +   1185d ago
Oh shut the f*ck up!

despite kojima's absence many AAA games will be shown by Sony internal devs.
digimau  +   1185d ago
New PS3 AAA for E3 is indipendet from Kojima presence:

GoW4?
Sly4?
Siv 5 (Quantic Dream Project)?

Etc....
Aloren  +   1185d ago
Ridiculous title indeed... though not more ridiculous than people ready to cry just cause Kojima said he wouldn't be there.
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No_Pantaloons  +   1185d ago
Kojima isn't a big deal. Unless hes making mgs5, which I'm cautious about after playing 4, then hes got little to show. I can respect him for the history hes had with sony, but I honestly think hes been slipping for a while and he's now a shadow of his former self.

yes, I'm aware of the eminent flood of disagrees, but I still tell it like it is.
belal  +   1185d ago
Isn't kojima going to be there in a video interview? or something? i thought i saw an article aboud it.
tigertron  +   1185d ago
Sony doesn't need Kojima to win E3. No company needs one man to "win" a games conference. All they need are alot of games.
Firstkn1ghT  +   1185d ago
Who cares. MGS4 is the most over rated game of all time. Silly AI with a laughable incoherent plot.
Wizziokid  +   1185d ago
"most over rated game of all time"

oh wait your a 360 troll sorry. I'll let you off this time.
news4geeks  +   1185d ago
I pity the fool who doesn't like... he.
MysticStrummer  +   1185d ago
Convoluted, not incoherent... unless you're slow. Knights do wear helmets after all.
Louis_Guzman  +   1185d ago
Oh, First is a "special" kind of knight indeed.
Rikan  +   1185d ago
MGS4 was awesome. I liked MGS3 the best, but still a great game.
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