64BB writes: "What once was a company I would throw money at with each new release has become nothing but an exaggerated laugh each time I hear news about them."
Agree completely. I wish they could encapsulate what made them so great all those years ago.
First off, FF13 was a great game. It wasn't your typical Final fantasy but it was still fun. It had a great battle system, great character development and beautiful graphics. Also the loser who wrote this article obviously doesn't have a PSP because he talking about how good POKEMON is! Square made alot of good RPGS for the PSP and the iphone. Im playing Chaos Rings Omega and im loving every single second of it. So this guy is either trolling or he is just dumb.
I agree with War
I didn't mean Square is making pokemon games. I was simply eluding to the fact that turn based games are still good as long as you handle them right. I haven't tried Chaos Rings but it does look good. It's still not what I'm looking for out of Square Enix though. I know some people liked FFXIII but I just wasn't one of them. It got decent reviews but nothing like other titles in the entry.
In a lot of ways, FF13 was a great game. But I never finished it because it felt like I was trying too hard to enjoy it. I waited so long for that game that I refused to accept that it wasn't really for me and ended up finally giving up at around the point people said it got really good. But when I got there and it was the same for me, I lost the will to continue. I know most people say this, but the older FF games WERE better. That doesn't mean FF13 wasn't good, but it was no 6, 7 or 8 (my favourites).
Every FF game got bigger and bigger, than FFXIII came and changed that. No towns, less weapons, less summons, less side quests than FFXII a PS2 game. -__- The battle system wa bad. At a certain point in the game (I think its after you get to Gran Pulse) EVERY monster requires you to get them into critical hit mode before you can even DAMAGE the damn things. It makes battle tedious and boring. Especially when you are facing enemies that are too weak to kill you but require 3-5 min battles (including the loading screens that FFXII did away with). The AI is retarded (they should have kep the gambit system) they don't do things correctly sometimes (for instance, you make Vanille a medic then she heals everyone except you wen you have low health and you die because of it). You can't move during battles, making you feel you are just watching whats going on, and the system is made for players to use auto select most of the time because picking the attacks because tiresome when you just want to continue on your linear path. Characters aren't relatable, they are melodramatic sterotypes. The hyped up hero guy, the arrogant powerful on, the optimistic cute one (not really cute), the sarcastic/neutral one (most human), the crybaby that moans all the time and the calm guy that tries to settle everyone down. In case you are wondering "How can these be sterotypes, we rarely see these characters?" They are, Barret (hyped up hero), Cloud, Yuffie/Aerith, Cid, (Cloud again lol j/k) Tifa (maybe can't really remember) and the calm one is Red or Vincent (if you got him). Copy and Paste. FFXII at least had human characters (except Vaan, but he wasn't the main character, was he?) The story in FFXII follows the theme that power can corrupt, and the struggle a nation has trying to deal with oppression and leading a not-so-secret-resistance to fight an evil empire. None of the characters in FFXII are dramatic (except Vaan) and all act believable.
Why do you call everyone that have a different opinion than you a loser? This is so childish.
Oh please, FFXIII was one of the worst games I have EVER played in my life. It failed on EVERY level except the cinematic graphics.
My brother in law HATES rpgs. But for years he has watched me play final fantasy games. He has always commented on how he could not get into them because of how much there was to do and how exploring is boring and so on. Then comes FF13. The only FF game I hated so much that I refused to finish. And he plays it and loves it. He actually got pissed when I sold it. My point is the FF franchise which already has a massive fanbase abandoned everything that made the series great in order to gain some new fans. And in doing so let down alot of the people who have enjoyed it the most.
I recently bought FF13 for cheap. I played the tutorial boss and sat it because of LA Noire and I was in the middle of Dragon Age. But I actually enjoyed it and once I finish the above too I want to put my whole attention to it.
final fantasy 13 was the biggest steaming pile of poo SE released this gen. ff14 is a close 2nd.
As in battle system that done everthing for you? Great character development you say! I think not my friend unless this was the frist FF game you have ever played. I'll give you the graphics part but i think thats part of SE problem. They are so hell bent on makeing the games graphics so good that they have forgotten how to put together a great story driven rpg. Well toss in the fact that the real man behind the great FF games now owns mistwaker studios.
FFXIII was a shit game. Go cry.
I just hope FFXIV is fixed before it comes to PS3, if that is still happening.
Me too. I'll give it a chance on consoles if it reviews well and the problems are fixed. My machine probably couldn't run it.
Most people know the problem... Squaresoft= Good Enix= Good SquareEnix= Bad Most of Squaresoft's games were turn based. Most of Enix's games were real time. SquareEnix hasn't learned the best way to give the best of both yet
Square enix could release old turn based styled rpgs with stories that are not final fantasy like square soft use to do if they did this then they can have a strong rpg support again. I think they are done after ffversusxiii.
The Final Fantasy brand is too strong. I don't think it'll ever be 'done' as such, but they may well lose the console market and have to focus on handheld, because that's the area the FF seems to do better in these days. Edit: Besides, if Versus is as great as we are led to believe, it could revive the series and even push it in a new direction that DOES work.
I have always wondered why SE just doesn't take whatever approach they take for the hand helds and apply it to console. I mean the hand held games they are making prove they have not lost whatever it was they had when they were Squaresoft but the console games are suffering.
Squaresoft's chief founding father got too involved with CG, and the guy who replaced was clueless.
Enix happened. long live squaresoft!
Agree with this statement 100%
Not exactly. The difference that I always point out, is that Squaresoft and ENIX were "developers" concerned with putting out quality software. Of course they wanted to make money, but game quality was right up with there with profit. NOW, those great developers have merged to become a "corporation", where concern for game quality is thrown out the window and the almighty dollar has become the primary concern. I do miss the FF games of old, as well as the sheer number of amazing RPGs put out by both houses. Hell to this day I'm STILL buying them to catch up (I still buy PS2 and 3 games). It's a sad thing we've lost two of the greats, but it is what it is. If I see a quality game come out, I'll get it, but the number of games I buy from them has decreased dramatically in the last decade. Also, let me add one more thing: SE no longer has the staff they did several years ago. Most of the people responsible for the greatness that was the FF series are gone.
I am looking forward to square enix's known lineup moreso than any other company rocket slime 3 dragon quest X kingdom hearts 3ds 13-2 versus type zero chocobo racing undiscosed ff 3ds project They just released chaos rings omega, and they wil have tons of portable ngp projects too. And thats just what we know. That sounds kinda great to me
Other than type 0 and maybe versus i see nothing to be even remotely excited about...
pretty much everything there is worthy of excitement And again thats just what we know before E3 and TGS......... its only going to get better In fact out of all those projects dragon quest X is the most exciting (because its going to be like 8, which was perphaps one of the greatest rpgs ever made)
How the hell can someone not be excited for Dragon Quest X exactly? Really. I mean I'm just as excited for DQX then I am for Versus and Type 0.
Its not so much the point of not being excited for SE nowadays. It's just hoping that they don't fuck each of those games up ((FFXIII/XIV).
DQ10 is one of most anticipated games also. But if they screw up this series too then I will officially be done supporting this company.
Their financial problems are directly related to the failure of FFXIV. FFXI was such a huge cash cow for them, it let them stay very profitable, now they're going to lose that and FFXIV getting fixed and them even getting a part of that huge flow of income isn't too likely. On top of it the budget for the game is probably well over what they paid to make FFXIII.
I have to agree that Final Fantasy has definitely changed, and not for what I consider to be the better. I used to buy so many of FF games, and I LOVED them. They were the best and still are the best role play games of all time, from Final Fantasy to Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana / Evermore and all that, Final Fantasy 7-9. I loved these games so much. Lately, at least the Final Fantasy series has taken a turn for... something. I am not sure what. The game was a good game, but, it was not what I wanted. It was not the Final Fantasy that I have always loved. Final Fantasy 13 was such a far departure from the norm that I just didn't enjoy it. There was no exploration until you got to Pulse at the end of Disc 3, and all up until then it was like a tunnel runner game. Like an old side scroller, except in 3d, with 1 path to go only. There was also no real towns, no people to talk to, and the only store to go to was a crystal with different links to virtual store menus. Square is definately going to have a great game with the upcoming Deus Ex. That is pretty much guarenteed I would say. I just wish square would make the Final Fantasy series more like the first 9, because they were so great. Other than that, they are still a decent company and you have to at least give them props for trying some brand new ips.
Average consumers don't want to grind anymore, why waist your life fighting boring videogame battles to improve stats.
there has been alot of things 1. Merge of Square and Enix 2. Yochi Wada 3. Yochi Wada 4. fire almost every good employee 5. the leaving of the great composer Nobuo Uematsu
"Now Square Enix is just as confused as their fans are with this crazy new direction try are taking which is rehashing old titles on every console available and creating spinoffs that review terribly" Yea Dissidia and Crisis Core got terrible reviews didn't they... I liked 13 and love the PSP games they brought out. My only complaint is how long it's taking for the games to come out. Once Type-0 and versus is out, I doubt we would be seeing articles like this. If your talking about XIV then yes you can laugh all you want because right now it is a joke but they're fixing it so if turns out good once it comes out on the PS3, I won't be suprised.
They don't bother because everyone is to busy either playing COD or any other FPS. There are 2 to 3 title every month on FPS alone. For them to compete, they either making cheap JRPG on handheld because that's where FPS is lacking. For them to make a good JRPG on this current gen consoles require a lot of resources and lots of times. Look at FF14. How long have that game in development?
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