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Inafune: Japan is falling further behind the West

IncGamers: Co-designer of Mega Man and former head of R&D at Capcom speaks out again on the state of the Japanese games industry.

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Kain812336d ago

Cause they focusing toooooo much on western Games, they alienating only their FANBASE look at Square-Enix, Capcom (which is your (Inafune-san) fault, in my Opinion), Namco-Bandai...Ridge Racer Unbound as example does not look like Ridge Racer the old fans wanted.
The FANS dont want westernized Japanese Games, we want Japanese Games...mostly JRPGs ala Legend of Dragoon, Breath of Fire, Chrono Trigger, Terranigma, Wild Arms, Suikoden, Rogue Galaxy, Dark Cloud,Skies of Arcadia, Final Fantasy and many other JRPG franchises, which almost died on Consoles, cause of this Westernization...

TheHater2336d ago

That and some of these major Japanese publishers/developers backing a console their games just doesn't sell well on.

evrfighter12336d ago

have you idiots played ff13?

what kind of western game has those kind of cheesy happy go lucky characters.

that was made for the japanese audience through and through.

AAACE52336d ago

OMG, you guys still don't get it!

I know you loved japanese style games. But while you were playing them, you missed the fact that western games were selling more while japanese games were selling less!

In any business, that is a sign that you need to change the way you operate and who you target!

Even though it is very populated, japan is a small island compared to areas in the west! And with so many japanese gamers liking the idea of handheld gaming and anime, the big consoles just aren't appealing to them as much!

Us in the western areas are the graphic whores, so for companies like SE to adapt their graphic centric games to a western audience was only a matter of time.

You may not like the idea, but it's the price we have to pay for wanting more!

Rocket Sauce2336d ago (Edited 2336d ago )

I have to agree with evrfighter as far as FF 13 is concerned. I can't vouch for the gameplay, but its overall look is incredibly Japanese.

If THIS was an attempt to reach out to my average-American-ass, they failed miserably...and this is coming from a fan of their snes/ps1 games.

DaTruth2335d ago

"what kind of western game has those kind of cheesy happy go lucky characters."

Happy-go-lucky??? Have you played FF13? They spend most of their time running for their lives and the rest whining(albeit justifiably) and arguing about their terrible circumstances!

Your discription is of six Vanilles!

evrfighter12335d ago (Edited 2335d ago )

the only character ff13 had going for it was Fang

lightning was extreme cliche angry japanese tough chick

vanille...no explanation needed

Snow was just as bad as Vanille when it came to that upbeat cheesiness.

Hope was your extreme cliche I've got a grudge on you and I'll hide it in pure japanese fashion...Name one western kid that wouldn't deck snow in the face a few times for gettin their mom killed and then let it be known he hated the d-bag. In happy go lucky japanese fashion he turned into Vanille after they kissed and made up.

I don't even remember who the antagonist was. that's how much of an impression it left on me.

Afro Guy...seriously an afro? Was that aimed at the western audience or the japanese audience?
Could go either way.

Louis_Guzman2335d ago (Edited 2335d ago )

@AAaSS5: Tell that to Nintendo. All this talk about Japanese companies needing to get their finances together, while western companies like Ubisoft,Thq and especially EA have been bleed white this gen.

Louis_Guzman2335d ago

@Rocketsauce: You're right. FFXIII needed more fat people, Mountain Dew, cheeseburgers and Fps shootin'.

jetlian2335d ago

still sells more games but its closer to 50/50 versus 80/20 of last gen

ThanatosDMC2335d ago

I hated Vanille with a passion even while through the ending.

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LeShin2336d ago (Edited 2336d ago )

Kain81... you are a wise man! Couldn't have said it better myself!

Stop bloody 'westerfying' my Japanese influenced games! If I want western games, I bloody live in the west, I can get them easily!

Ridge Racer now just looks like Burnout...
The new Front Mission is a travesty...
God knows what they are going to do to Devil May Cry now...

I'd take any Yakuza game in the series over 'western influenced' game like Quantum Theory!!

LightofDarkness2336d ago

All I want is a REAL HD Final Fantasy. Even a good, classic HD JRPG. But apparently these guys know better, and all I want to play is another Gears/COD clone with a throw-away story and mediocre graphics.

siren2336d ago

You should seriously check out Breath of Death 7 and Cthulhu Saves the World.

sikbeta2336d ago

Don't bother, that's his excuse to keep making lame @ss crappy westernized games... lost planet, anyone? lol

zeal0us2336d ago (Edited 2336d ago )

I have to agree with everything you said Kain.
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Some companies can pull westernizing a japanese game, look @ vanquish and then some companies can't look Quantum Theory.
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The point I do have to agree with Inafune about is expanding. Japan could try expanding a little. I get consoles where its at but expanding to Android or iOS or even a Facebook app could go a long way. Expanding on these platforms would/could also mean expanding japanese culture to new heights.

miyamoto2336d ago

I feel the developers have nothing to do with the Westernization but the money men in Capcom or Squareenix. Developers are first and foremost game designers not business men.

Believe me there will be a few good men that will stand up against this problem Japanese developers are facing.

Incipio2336d ago

"a few good men that will stand up against this problem"

=

Get fired by developer boss who can't get a western publisher because his game isn't "western-influenced" enough.

miyamoto2334d ago

@incipio

did Shinji Mikami get fired?
did Hideki Kamiya get fired?
did Keiji Inafune get fired?

or did they resigned and formed their own businesses?

TTG2336d ago

I agree,i miss all the great jrpgs from the 16bit,32bit,and ps2 era.they do need to stop westerfying their rpgs cuz as long as they do im not buying.

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Emilio_Estevez2336d ago (Edited 2336d ago )

They have to westernize, in the end they need to make money and the market for traditional JRPG's and other japanese games is not that good. If they didn't appeal to other audiences they could all end up closed or tiny. It's a double edged sword.

Namco Bandi just made LA Noire, so that is def wrong. Successful westernizing there.

Ducky2336d ago

"Namco Bandi just made LA Noire"

I didn't know that. O.o

LightofDarkness2336d ago

Team Bondi != Namco Bandai.

Emilio_Estevez2336d ago (Edited 2336d ago )

U can disagree w me all u want, it is the sad truth. the japanese dont buy that many games, its a niche market

my bad w the bondi/bandi confusion. lol

Pintheshadows2336d ago

Haha, the Japanese don't buy many games. Look up Monster Hunter.

Also the games they purchase are often not released outside of Japan. Trust me. After being out there a few years back there are many games I had never heard off. They buy games. Just not necessarily the same ones we do.

I think that maybe why the big Japanese developers are trying to Westernise so much.

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stealth500k2336d ago (Edited 2336d ago )

Inafune is a raging moron

" Japanese developers needed to try and understand what sort of games were popular in the West and learn how to create content that would appeal to Westerners. So they would kind of have to empty their glass and fill it up with what foreigners like"

So hes basically saying everything needs to be a shooter or an action game.

Yeah thats really going to work out super for the industry, Have less originality and diversity and genres.

If japan just does western genres were am I going to get my srpgs? or my turn based rpgs? Or my platforming rpgs? Or my super platformers? Or my vn type games? Where am I going to get something thats not hyper realistic?

No wonder capcom siliently fired his ass

LeShin2336d ago

Agreed wholeheartedly with you!

LightofDarkness2336d ago

... and then proceeded to do exactly as he wanted?

sikbeta2336d ago

With that kind of logic, the gaming industry would head to something similar to the Video Game crash of 1983 but worst...

miyamoto2336d ago (Edited 2336d ago )

I don't see this paragraph in the article.
dude, where did you get this quote?
any source?
Did he really say this?

stealth500k2336d ago (Edited 2336d ago )

http://www.1up.com/features...

full interview

page 2

stupidity towards the middle

TheoreticalParticle2336d ago

Here's the full quote, instead of the completely taken out of context one:

"Inafune told me that in order to sell games to the world, "[Japanese developers] have to empty their glass and fill it up with what foreigners like," rather than "forcefully push[ing] their own way of doing things." In other words, he feels Japan must actively try to create new things rather than figure out how to better sell the products they're already making -- something he doesn't seem optimistic about: "That's very difficult for Japanese people to do...because they have a lot of pride."

Of course, this doesn't sell the "he only wants to make shooters" narrative, so it's been excluded.

baker_boi2335d ago

@TheoretocalParticle

I think it sold it quite well with the rest of the quote.

"Empty the glass and fill it up with what Foreigners like".

It's still saying the same thing.

Make games that western people play.

Guess what? I don't dull looking D&D type, realistic, and gray European settings(Looking at you Dragon's Dogma).

Or running around just seeing my hands stretched out in front of me.

There's a reason I look foward more to what's coming out of japan than what's coming out of the "West".

If CAPCOM wants to do something like Demon's Souls they ought to take a que from From Software and put some damn flare in the game's set pieces and character/monster designs.

TheoreticalParticle2335d ago

Actually that wasn't the full quote, either. 1up truncated it, and then had the full thing in the full, unabridged interview.

You should really read the full interview, because it doesn't sound at all like, "Make Western games".

For example, when he opens the interview, he says, "Of course, Capcom was always a company that worked out more in the West; their brands were more popular in the West, we made an active effort earlier than a lot of other Japanese publishers to try and make things work in the West, and so a lot of people internally had to kind of get in line with my thinking of working with the West which helped. But even though they got the concept of "we need to work with the West" they didn't understand how to do it. And so that's when you get things like them just trying to throw money at a Western developer without working with them to create an IP. Just giving them money and saying "have at it," that's not the right way to design a game that's going to sell in the West. Or just outright buying a Western developer or gaming company, also, that's not the right way to go about it."

If he just wanted them to make shooters, why wouldn't you just buy a shooter developer? Why wouldn't you just give them money and have them make the game they wanted?

What's the only part of the equation missing? The Japanese influence. Therefore, this can only be read as him favoring the hybridized approach.

This is immediately followed by the out of context quote in question:

"So they were focused on trying to get Japanese games to be more popular in the West, but what they really needed to do was, Japanese developers needed to try and understand what sort of games were popular in the West and learn how to create content that would appeal to Westerners. So they would kind of have to empty their glass and fill it up with what foreigners liked in games and that's very difficult for Japanese people to do -- and certainly Japanese creators -- because they have a lot of pride, so rather than trying to mimic or understand another person's way of doing things, they try to forcefully push their own way of doing things."

Kind of empty the glass (i.e. not completely empty the glass.) and fill it up with what Western gamers liked in video games. That's clear as day. He's saying you have to take western design elements and incorporate them in your game. It's still a Japanese glass, and it contains a mixed liquid that is one part Japanese, one part Western.

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Tony P2336d ago

I read that interview before and I still can't figure out how people here boil that down to only "make more shooters".

Especially when a better explanation is right under the quote itself.

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baodeus2336d ago

hey, it will be alright. I heard he is working on exclusive game for ps3.

LeShin2336d ago

If it's a shooter, I'm going to completely ignore it..

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