Activision showed two levels from Modern warfare 3's campaign in London earlier this week. NowGamer was there to see it all, and learned that he destruction isn't as good as Battlefields.
Battlefield will have the superior engine, but does destruction really make a game like this any better? I'm not convinced it does.
When destruction is a major part of gameplay I think it makes it better! We are not talking about shooting a shelf & books falling off! We are taking about the wall u call cover no longer exists anymore or that building no longer exists! Which effects other things like knowing the building came down because you are the guy in the jet who dropped the bombs! Know way you can say it can't enhance the experience by a good margin over mw3!
... and Battlefield 3 will be the better game this fall!
LBP 1 and 2 has full destruction. LBP2 has even more destruction than BF3...just sayin. COD this gen always has a scripted destruction part in the story mode.
i definitely gotta agree with Beastly Rig. The destruction really enhances the strategy behind the gameplay, allowing you to approach your target in multiple ways. I gotta say, it really has helped in tackling some campers!
Destruction in multiplayer makes A HUGE DIFFERENCE! MW3 will be just like the rest of the COD's this generation. You will memorize the maps and camp behind corners and walls that will be there till the end of time. BF has destructible environments in it's multiplayer and when you hide behind a wall one minute, the next minute the wall is gone! Forcing you to move to cover elsewhere. It's dynamic and it adds a lot to the game play.
Hmm i dunno.. i didnt like Battlefield because of the destruction.. doesnt work imo tehres a good amount and when uy can destroy buildings its not neccessary
Wow so instead of being innovative they simply copy other games out there and have scripted destruction? Destruction is what makes a game feel real. It helps you to kill those annoying little camping buggers too by launching some c4 on a wall and blow it up. Let me guess, there will probably be another sniper mission in MW3 too right? That was probably the highlight of any COD games. They should just give up on MW and make a sniper game based solely on Ghost or something.
My fav moments in Bad Company 1/2 were when I had someone guessing if I'd be coming from door A or door B, so instead, I came throgugh wall C. Destruction is great :)
Then you've never played a Battlefield game. Playing Bad Company 2, holding down a building and taking out guys from the windows, then one guy on the opposing squad realises where we are and gets in a tank and brings the building down, we need to get our asses out of the building before it comes down on top of us and at the same time avoid getting picked off as we exit the building. Equally using grenade launchers to chip away at the walls, exposing squads that are hiding up in the attic of some random house and gunning them down before they realise. Trust me, destruction effects gameplay immensely. Makes it a lot more tactical and just way more fun imo.
Fair point, guess I need to play more BFBC2!
I'm still laughing at how when BF3 boasted their destruction, activation was all like "well we have Destruction also... *cough scripted* big deal who can't make something always fall down the same way every time, this is 2011 things should be more advanced now, the hell? http://images4.wikia.nocook...
Feckles, if everyone played a bit more BC2 and Team Fortress 2, the world would be a better place :) I guess that's really the line in the sand with COD players and the rest: the team work factor. COD players seem to be more like social atoms in most games, striking out on their own with no regard or interest in the team or objectives, just killing as many as possible in a short period of time. COD is a game that rewards that kind of playing over anything else, which is why more socially cooperative gamers like to play games where their teamwork is rewarded more than their killstreaks, and winning/capturing objectives is paramount. Thus, play BC2 for more than it's destructive element. Play it for it's constructive elements :p
Yes it does i clear out all the trees in the sniper camping spots where they can shoot easily into 2 capture points on BC2. It ruins their day and makes them fight in known areas of the map. And unlike call of duty when a sniper decides to climb into a attic they just cant stay there all day and knife people as they climb up. I blow the roof off that bitch and now that sniper is sitting naked and exposed on the new patio i just created. If hes not dead already from the tank round i just sent through the wall. And if the little camper isnt dead yet i just keep firing untill the building falls and crushes him. When i get a group of friends we destroy every building on the map and turn the match into a free for all lol. No hiding everyone come out and fight lol.
Yeah on large maps we do similar stuff. Blow the roofs, make clearings and then hunt the hunter with da choppa. It's like watching rats flee from a bright light when you're up in that cannon. Pew pew pew!
Modern Warfare always touted it's series as a "gritty, realistic version of modern-future warfare." So, if they are being realistic, why aren't environments destructible? I'm most definitely picking up Battlefield 3 this fall, I'm not sold on MW3 yet though. I will say that I've come to realize that people might be overboard on the COD hate, as it's less milked than other franchises such as Madden or Need for Speed. Only difference is that Activision has 4 studios (IW, Treyarch, Sledge, Raven) all working on the same game, which is just a bit overkill. Not to mention the whole West/Zampella debacle which we still don't know all the details on. But milked? Not quite yet, I don't think.
Did anybody think differently?? This isnt battlefield people the maps are tiny and there isn't destruction get over it. At least you can choose a colourful custom tag for your name right?
- SO COOL! /s But really, If you like COD, you like COD - it's all a matter of opinion. What's my opinion? BF3 baby. There's no better feeling in a war game than leveling a whole building to the ground, crushing all the surprised gamers inside.
Yes it does. Destruction brings a whole new element to the game. @clizzz Multiplayer will not be scripted, because your not dealing with a scripted storyline.
Go ahead, camp that house, I'll just take it down. Yes, destructible environments really does make it better.
Well, try playing Bad Company 2 and your squad is holed up in a building while another team is outside shooting and lobbing grenades at you; pieces of the walls keep disappearing and so is your cover. THEN you get that warning that the building is coming down. Nothing is more nerve wracking and intense.
Destruction makes everything better. Anyone remember a game called Red Faction? COD has scripted destruction when a PS2 game probably will have better destruction physics and animations in it. MW3 better have COOP survival.
WOW...sure didn't see this coming. I knew they wouldn't have any destructible environments or enhanced engine features...same old shit.
If you played Bad Company 2 you would see that it makes it so much better. Nothing like blowing a camper out of a second story building with a well placed rpg... and ensuring he wont go there again :)
tbh I think MW3 will be fine without it, I love destruction in games but I don't think they could match DICE and Frostbite 2 on this one, would just be dead weight. still not interested in MW3 as of late though, lets hope they change something up a bit. hope..
I just want to see some real gameplay, I’m not interested in seeing a bunch of scripted set pieces from the SP... -___-
i think the same... but there no proof ATM
I will say again, whilst there's more unscripted destruction in BF3 because of Frostbite 2.0, DICE already said that BF3 will be WAY more scripted than any other Battlefield to date. So expect some explosive scripted cinematic destruction just like in Modern Warfare 3.
So what if single player is scripted! As long as destruction in multiplayer isn't scripted it cool! @below indeed! It's good to know the scripted destruction in single player is possible in multi player! no worries..
Yes! See it's not just about the Singleplayer Destruction, it's MP where the long term gaming counts and destruction plays a big role, MW3 probably won't be much at all for the MP, where as BF3 will be glowing in this area.
But not in multiplayer where cod wont have any destruction. Where in BF multiplayer you can destroy every building to the groud.
And in battle field even in single player you can lvl almost any building to the floor boards.
Destructible environments isn't really good for multiplayer least on COD.... that would just make people wanna use garbage grenade launchers and majority of the community is complaining. I don't mind seeing it getting destroyed with a chopper gunner etc. End of the day multiplayer terms things they need to fix 1. Dedicated servers 2. The lag 3. Hit detection 4. Make it balance. Don't even think about adding anything new without having these 4 key things addressed.
Well to add destruction to COD, the developers would have to redesign the way you play the game. Right now the is meant to be how it is.
Doesn't bother me, MW3, BF3 and Rage (plus others) and I've got all the FPS bases covered.
I want Rage x)
Did anyone think for a second it wouldn't be?
Activision previously boasted that MW3 would have destruction to rival other shooters.
I dont recall Activision or anyone on this game saying it would have destructible gameplay that would rival BF3. If you have that info post a link but I think really they indicated there was going to be a lot of destruction similar to what we saw in BF3 trailer.... most people took that to mean destructible enviornments in game.
THANK you, exactly my reaction. What a surprise!!
PPl we are in 2011 destruction has to be in a war game, so NO DESTRUCTION = NO BUY. My money is for Battlefield only coz of destruction
Didn't see that coming (sarcasm)
It's Call of Duty. What ISN'T scripted?
It depends on the mode imo. In single player, scripted events makes the game like a hollywood blockbuster movie. Games like that won't be forgotten. But in multiplayer, you better have real time destruction.
Like EVERY CoD game ever made then? So what?
So, the funny things are just videos, and the game plays like the first COD all the time. It's the same innovation that COD always had, I found this new really pointless.
CoD is going to become the GH of Activision. Hope you guys like recycled animations and scripted effects that change little by little! Activision, I have found, is great at destroying beautiful things by forcing product over quality. It's going to be the same with this. Better than Black Ops now, but when the next game comes out, it will suck.
Wait to play it. Then we'll know the facts. "So I think right now it's a fad, and the fad will pass, we're not going to be bite on in it - we want the game to be fun first, and destructibility comes second."
Best way to describe my reaction to the article.
Most devs find something new to put in their games, but not IW. All they do is recycle their garbage again and again. This is also another reason to get BF3, if you have lots of money or half a brain go for COD.
Cmon now really Battlefields environment destruction tops 9/11's.
...really, dude? =/
Yeah really it's been 10 years get over it.
I'm guessing you didn't know anyone that died there ...
thanks for the obvious
I think battelfields 3 destruction we saw in the trailers was scripted too
partly: yes, but that doesn't matter. the scripted sequences are fine, they make moments more intense. On the other hand the trailer features a lot of destruction which (clearly) isn't scripted.
lol Call of Duty can't introduce real-time destruction unless it's willing to run at constant 30fps...
I hate these games for even existing anymore. I love first person shooters...but if i see ONE MORE goddamn comparison or flame bait article I'm going to go live in a hole until these fucking games are out and people shut up for a bit.
while CoD is just a puppydog
I'm really gettin tired of these shit articles. Its tha game play u should be worried about not how stuff blows up u idiot!
Everything blows up nicely and tha game play crap, i'm taking BF's!
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