The company that created the transistor radio and the Walkman is at the precipice. If Sony's new $600 console doesn't blow gamers away, it may be time to say sayonara.
i gurantee u that the ps3 and the wii will be sold it before chrismas. ps3 will sell a bit on q1 2007 but, on q4 2007 i think it will sell lots and then from the begging of 2008 it will dominate till 2011.
trust me i am an anylist and i think ps3 will have 40% of the market and 360 and wii will each have 30 percent.
...I analyze things all the time. In fact, this morning I analyzed the Nutrition Facts of my Cap'n Crunch. You know what my conclusion was based on the information at hand? I should switch to Frosted Mini Wheats. I think "analysts" are funny, "I analyze things, I'm an analyst". I'm not trying to pick a fight, just saying that analysts are just guessing... and your guess is as good as mine. Just because you are an analyst, doesn't mean you have any information I don't.
My analysis of the current situation: Sony is in big trouble, unless the BluRay wins the format war. They do not have the power of exclusives this time, and they do not have a drastically more powerful system. They don't even have time on their side. The only thing Sony has is loyal customers, and a strong brand name. That may get them somewhere, but not far enough with their price tag... and especially if the BluRay flops.
lol What? Your an analist? More like a 12 year old Sony Fanboy. Please provide your hard Data which you ANALIZED to come up with your very in depth opinion. Also Reading what you write takes an Analist... I always love this one "Trust Me"
You need to pull your head our of your a$$. Sony is in trouble... did you read the article, or was it too long with too many big words for you? Sony is the new Sega. Deal with it.
But well can it save Sony? Could be. IF BR becomes the standard is the first thing. At this moment, HD-DVD is in favour. That's already less then 50% of succes. That's a large gamble.
Caps lock if you're an analist, then I am your boss. I don't trust you. Man I'd be more an analyst then you.
The REAL analysts have said the 360 will lead the sales untill 2011 then PS3 will sell more. At that time the next XBOX will already be here.
Trust me, I can analyse better then you. PS3 and 360 will have about the same share in the market. Wii maybe even at the same level or a bit lower. So: each about 33% or something like 38% for as wel PS3 as 360 and 24% for Wii
my analyze is: 70% ps3, 15% xbox, 15% wii. the result is easy to explain. when ppl see the ps3 games are far better there is no need for a xbox360. the price will come down and everyone is happy.
you have got to be the biggest Sony Fanboy out there. Do you actually believe that the PS3 is going to have that much of an advantage. It won't even come close to that 70%. You also talk about price coming down. That wont happen for a while as the technology is to new to even think about lowering it. Sony is taking a huge loss with each new console they make. You also talk about how good the games are going to be on the PS3. Did you even read the article? Where they say that it's going to take years to get the full potential out of the system. By that time the Next xbox might be out and so will the next playstation if this one doesn't fail. I don't want it to fail as we need the competition to keep having good games. Now you on the other hand wnat MS to fail miserably and have only Sony left. What do you think will happen if one of the company's fail. Well no more competition and there goes all the good games.
...hahahaha!!! 70%?! Ignorance can be forgiven... we just all need to wait until January 1st, when all the sytems are out and the Christmas season has passed. How many luanch titles are coming with the PS3?
Is it possible to laugh hard enough at this example of shameless ignorance?
Achira, time after time you proof yourself dumb as hell.
Please stop because no one takes you serious anymore by these predictions
that was good article, made some great points.
it is a dangerous move by sony, and if blu-ray fails, the ps3 goes with it, and pretty much sony completely. which I hope doesn't happen, as competition will make all 3 work better/harder for our business.
...but I can't help but want the 360 to come out on top.
the Bluray drive in the PS3 can still read DVD's
...but why pay that much for a DVD player?
and i see the The Sony Root Kits installed on the pos3 Causing system Failures, Spyware pop-ups causing games to freeze, and greese from cooking food on the Grill Station 3 causing processor failures. Plus the BetaRay Problems
I am not an analyst, i am a gamer. I prefer the exclusives on 360 over the PS3's. Simple. We have to remember to have fun playing games, and to not get so caught up in a mega corporations history and shareholder meetings and all that boring buisness stuff...
... I also play games to have fun. However, when it comes to the boring corporate stuff, it intrigues me. I'm a geek, and most of my friends are geeks... and when we get together, we have geeky debates. We debate over HD-DVD and BluRay, 360 and PS3, and we mostly agree on the Wii. We also debate computers and the hardware, the upcoming Vista, and pros and cons of pretty much everything. This boring stuff you speak of, is REALLY boring, honestly... but there are enough people out there that find it interesting. Also, the same boring junk helps people decide where to invest their money when choosing games.
At the bottom of the first page there was a Google keyword ad for "Outdoor Barbeque grills"
I guess it fits with the Grillstation 3
i was being sarcastic sphinx, omg i anylise my frosties aswell, anyway ps3 luanch is in a much better positon then x0box it has better launch games.
and another thing microsoft take so long in making games and then they make u pay for playing 10 year old games like street fighter 2 online...u x box fans are lame man microsoft tricks u into buying a rushed system and launches crappy games with it, in a whole year the only good games u had on ur 360 were dead or alive and oblivion and about 10000000 live arcade games to keep u busy till the next halo and gears of war, so stop bashing sony.
Ugh, I'd never play that game :)
The 360 has a lot of games I have enjoyed or are enjoying: Oblivion, Call of Duty 2, GRAW, NCAA '07, Madden '07, Dead Rising, Cloning Clyde, Fight Night Round 3, Lara Croft (was ok), Saints Row, Prey, Zuma, Geometry Wars Evolved, etc. Plus, there are a bunch of games still coming! I wish I had enough time to play all the good games coming out in the next few months!
I've seen some of the launch titles for the PS3... ummm, I'm not into those weird Japanese games like the 360's Ninety-Nine Nights... they're just weird and sorta lame. But hey, if you like those kind of games, more power to you! Play them all you want, I just think that the majority of US & Europe gamers want games like GOW (for example). To be honest, the only game I like the look of on the PS3 is MGS4... and it'll probably come out on the 360 later... oh, and Assassins Creed, but that is probably coming out on the 360, too!
I am too much of a penny pincher to pay that much money for something with a few games that may be exclusives... and a BluRay player. Like I said before, I will wait approximatley 2 years before considering the purchase of a PS3... Sony needs to prove its worth by having some good exclusives and win the format war, otherwise, it is just the same as a 360 without GOW, Crackdown, etc.
plz read it it is 4 pages. and how brilliant a person is Kaz Hirai.how he came up with ps1 and ps2 and his vision even in the 90s. i am saying nothing about ps3. it may go down ! well i dont know but the man behind the playstations is not that dumb
plz read the complete article
That was a great article. Glad someone spent the time to write it.
Doesnt sell well, that doesnt mean its time for sony to say sayonara.LOL...thats a fanboy dreaming. We gamers need the competition. And Sony is not going to give up as SEGA did back with the DC. So analize wathever S#IT you want. The next year is going to happen something, WHAT? I dont know. I will be enjoying my 360 and PS3 at home and thats the only thing that matters to me as a GAMER. WELCOM3 CHANG3!!!!!
PS3 is a gameconsole, BD-player, computer...
it has wider selection of consumers. Unlike X360 and Wii that are 'just' gameconsoles.
They only call it a computer to avoid taxes. If you are right then what is my Sony Vaio laptop? An oversized portable DVD player? What about my Sony Vaio desktop, is it still a computer without blu-ray?
Welcome spare change, because after the PS3 flops, that's all Sony shareholders will have to live on. I wonder if Kaz and Ken are men enough to fall on their own swords after they run one of the biggest and most successful electronics companies into the ground. They will probably say thats what they will do, then do something else... they are habitual liars, after all...
Sony loses a little market share and is wounded when blu-ray fails but they certainly won't do a Sega.
this link it is amazon.com the will give a sales ranking for the product
currently BR is #9,658 in Electronics
HD DVD is #313 in Electronics
Tobe real it dose not look to good.
what if it fails and bla bla bla. what if it succeeds huh? have u ever thought of that and what if blu ray wins, do u know how rich sony will be then, they will be richer than microsoft and then the ps3 will be in every home.
i think the ps3 will succeed if they bundle up a ps3 with 2 controllers 2 games and a blu-ray movie( a really good one) then the buyer would be like wow hey jim(neighbour) take a look at this. JIM: god dammit can i go through the tv? what quality i will et one soon. then it would take of from there jim will have a party and around 20 people will see the film and get it too so think positvely guys and i hope the ps3 does well and makes profit but not too much.
That's not a bad idea. Now instead of spending $600 they have to spend about $850 with taxes. Now what if "Jim" doesn't have an HDTV, then what. How is he going to impress his neighbor. You have to remember that most people don't have HDTV's yet.
Sony knows how rich they would be if Blu-Ray "wins", that is why they are focused on the PS3 as a movie player, not a game machine. Seriously-- Sony should still have some clout when it comes to exclusives, etc., but instead they seem to be loseing them hand over fist-- and not just because the 360 is already established and easier to program for-- but because Sony doesn't care and isn't willing to put their money behind exclusives any more. They are spending the money instead on getting places like Circuit City and Best Buy to push Blu-Ray over HD DVD, instead.
It is not hate it is just opinion. If you se it as hate you should think about why. Just go to my post for amazon it will give you a good way to measure the out come.
its because HD-DVD has been out for longer and there are many to choose from.
One thing is for sure. Even if it fails,(Which I doubt) when the PS3 launches the Blue Ray is going to sell a hell of a lot more than the HD DVD. Thats thanks to the PS3, so as I said all we need to do is wait. We dont need the negative or premature conclusions. Sony hasnt done things rigth but its TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO early to call them down. Even earlier to say if they fail is sayonara for them LOL.
That's where this is going. If the 360 went under, MS still would be a powerhouse...because MS's focus isn't games, it's pc software.
Sony, though....the ps2 was basically supporting the company, it was (and is) a major asset. So I don't think the Wired article is wrong in saying that Sony is taking a gamble, because they are. If for some reason the ps3 isn't a home run, it will put a major dent in Sony's coffers.
One thing I got out of that article, (besides sony being a flop), is that thier stategy for the PS3 really does not match up to thier strenghts when you take a look at sony's history.
Yes it is a big gamble as we have babbled on here on and on before. We will see. And Astroth thats the exact Strategy I'm talking about trying to win a format war through this system.
Just cause people have a PS3 doesn't mean they are HADRCORE movie people or they will go out and buy expensive HD movies, besides the fact that most gamers don't own HDTv's, and really shouldn't careless about Blue-ray. These are the underlying strategies I'm talking about.
...I have a HDTV, but I got that for videogames, not for movies.
I do believe that once you have a piece of equipment, you're more likely to use it. If I had a blu-ray player, I'd look at buying blu-ray movies.
And because I own a 360, I'll consider buying the hd-dvd add on. I'm not buying that camera, though.
Poeple have nice computers do they actually play computer games besides solitaire....
People have 600 satlelite channels on thier box how many do they watch on average
See unlike other things there is insurance. How many of us have insurance for different things when nothing ever happens, year after year...well there is a difference but there is alot of things we have that we just do not use or should I say need, unless its the law.
Thats exactly how Politicians screws us over..Look at what sony is doing to fanboys.Make you believe you need it. Look at Bush lol and out security level. Is it any safer don't think so. It's all about PR campaigns and tactics to fool the mindless public. Propogander I tell you..
Ok that was off the tpoic but you get the idea. I'll get a HD-DVD drive when I have a Kickass 1080p HDtv in like 8 years. So do I really need it in between?
can a flop save a turd?
stay tuned to find out!
" Only once in the past five years has Sony's all-important electronics division posted a profit; during that same period, the company's share price has fallen by nearly half."
"And Sony has to do this with cash reserves of $6 billion – compared to Microsoft's $38 billion hoard – while losing hundreds of dollars in manufacturing costs alone for every PS3 sold"
Its all about profit. Now I havent heard of anything about microsofts stock dropping and I dont know any other company that rakes in over 38 billion in profts. Now who were the dumbasses that tried to tell me that microsoft wasnt the richest company on the planet and that sony actually had more money than them? I'm looking at you sony fanboys.
I have 2 hdtv's and they are for gaming. Now I Have HDTV service coming in a few weeks. I will get HD-DVD or Blu-ray I'm just waiting to see who flops. I want a PS3 but I will wait to see how BR turns out.
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