Bad information spreading on PlayStation Network’s return date: nothing new, folks

Sony has not mentioned a date for the restart of the PlayStation Network, which has been down since April 20. There is no new information about when the service will be back up, Seybold said. The exact restart date is a big deal because Sony’s online gaming service has more than 77 million registered users and many of them are anxious about when they can play online games again.

[Dart89]

Sony will turn it back on when they believe it's safe.But i see many people already complaining that they will switch to xbox bla bla would you guys rather have it turned on without it being safe and then being shut down within a few days or wait till they think it's right to turn it back online??

Edit:Wtf is up with the disagree??

[sdtarm]

true, Im waiting anxiously, cant wait to use that PS+ discounts and my $50 PSN Card

[InFAMOUS1]

Where did this $50 PSN card come from?

Have you been reading too much Kotaku???

@ Dart- Hater's gonna hate?

[Lyr1c]

@ above

I think he purchased one before PSN went out and is just anxious to actually get to use it.

[InFAMOUS1]

@ Lyr1C... thank you.. That actually makes perfect sense!

@ disagrees... HATERS GONNA HATE!

[Istanbull]

People are just ungrateful, first they said when Anon was DDOSing: "shut up, its Anon, they're fighting for our freedom"

Now the same anti-PS3 people whine about Sony not bringing the PSN back up, Karma is a B!TCH

And to all the people claiming to switch to 360: please switch so when PSN comes back online we dont have whiners

[hesido]

Lol@people thinking they deserve STORE credit for the outage of a free service.

They will give you digital goods that can be produced out of thin air, but they WON'T give you store credit that would make them pay real dollars to 3rd parties. This wouldn't be the case if PSN store was made up ENTIRELY of Sony produced digital goods, but this is not the case. There are movies and games by other parties.

That said, Sony could have worked on securing PSN's online functionality first, disabling PSN store and any activity leading to purchases. So the return could have been step by step. I think they are trying to do it all in one go. Just disconnect the personal information database from the rest, and give us basic online functionality back, no?

[NiKK_419]

Istanbull, you gave me an idea. Maybe Sony purposely shut it down to weed out all the impatient and immature kids so we could have a better online? I doubt that would be the case, but how cool would that be if all those people were gone when we logged on? Lol that would suck for 360 though, then they would be almost ALL like that

[-MD-]

"Lol@people thinking they deserve STORE credit for the outage of a free service."

I don't get people like you. Most of us bought our PS3's because we wanted to go online with it. Maybe Sony should slap a sticker on the box that says PSN might be hacked for months at a time.

[Theonetheonly]

I just wanna Activate portal on steam. :( the outage happened the DAY i bought portal 2 for an hour or so i thought my ps3 was broken. who'd have known this would've become a month long ordeal possibly more.

Something about the tortoise and the hare, is resonating with these last couple weeks.

[rockleex]

"Maybe Sony should slap a sticker on the box that says PSN might be hacked for months at a time."

Maybe car companies should slap a sticker on the car that says "this car may break down at times".

Or maybe Microsoft should slap a sticker on the box that says "this console may RROD at any time".

[the_kutaragi_baka]

sony please fix ur shit soon. i need to shoot some in the face on Killzone 3. lol. and we should get cool free shit from ps store for this inconvienence. and not some lame ass outfit for home either.

[hesido]

@-MD-

You didn't get me indeed.

I don't think we deserve store credits for it. I think we all deserve some compensation, but that AIN'T gonna be store credits, for the reasons stated above PLUS:

I forgot to mention that most people have 2-3 accounts to be able to download territory specific downloads. For example, just because you have made 10 free PSN accounts, you deserve to get 500usd? How can Sony detect bogus accounts? It creates more problems for Sony than it solves.

STORE. CREDIT. WON'T. HAPPEN.

We do deserve a good gesture from Sony, which it will provide.

[jeseth]

I'm just getting real tired of false dates and no results.

This has been embarrassing and frustrating.

[fluffydelusions]

I agree but many others won't

[Wobbuffet]

I wonder if these guys will agree....

[solar]

nothing like another whine cry IGN is ignorant news story on n4g. every pub is out to trash Sony!!!! how pathetic you so called "gamers" must feel.

[jeseth]

C'mon Solar.

This situation is getting worse and worse. People have every right to be pissed and mad. And they are going to vent their frustration.

Sony deserves the heat they are getting. I'm a huge Playstation gamer and I am losing my patience now. What about people that bought MAG or DCUO? THey are totally f'd right now. I bought SOCOM and MK last Thursday when they said PSN would be back up by the end of last week. Now I have two new games that have huge multiplayer modes and I can't play multplayer.

So I'm getting a little ticked too. You tell people to stop whining, I suggest you stop being such a public defender. You don't sound very smart calling other gamers pathetic while you are defending a group that failed to have the proper safegaurds in place to thwart this "hack".

All the "gamers" want PSN back so they can GAME.

[KarrBOMB]

@Jeseth

I agree that they are getting the heat they deserve, but I'm wondering why so many people here are so personally angered at this. Are all the PS3 fanboys on N4G 12 years old and mom and dad wont buy them another system? Why is it almost everyone here complains they can't play games online? Does anyone other then me own a PS3 and 360?

I'm right there with you on the whole SOCOM deal, I've been a fan since SOCOM 1 and would love to play online, but the new maps for Black Ops are amazing and are keeping me busy. So the PSN being down has no affect on me as most of my gaming time online is with the 360. I guess I'm just observing this, but it seems like a lot of people on N4G pretend to be adults when they live at home with mom and dad in reality. These people blindly defend a corp. because that's the only thing their parents bought them. I think Solar is just giving his perspective of things. But this is one of the reasons I play the 360 online, the blind loyalists that defended Sony are now turning on them because they have nothing else in life to do. These are a large number of the type of people on the PSN, and I prefer to avoid this as much as possible.

I'm not saying you don't get this on the 360, but I see way less of it.

*** If most of the kids here will ask mom and pops for another console for christmas, you can choose to be a gamer instead of a company loyalist. ***

[gaden_malak]

It's funny how people are outraged that all this happened and are now outraged it's taking so long to get it back.

Do you actually want your info to be safe or not?

[hesido]

I don't know why they cannot bring back online functionality first, without tying the whole thing to our personal info database with our online activity.

Disable purchases, disable wallet funding, disable new PSN user creation, and give us back the basic online usage (of course after tidying up core security) without the return bonuses first.

After you believe you have the most secure database access ever, bring back full functionality, and give us the bonuses (PSN+ etc etc.) securely.

If Sony would announce that they would take a step-wise method, it would be much better.

[TheBrit]

should have been a lot more safe in the first place.

[gamingdroid]

Security starts at the planning phase. You can't just secure portions of a system and expose the rest.

Think of it is as layers in an onion. You start building it from the core out, layer by layer. Exposing the inner layers is a security risk.

It doesn't surprise me at all the outage is going on this long. It was surprising to me that reports are coming in that it would be back up so soon suggesting a band aid fix. However, this is good news!

[JD_Shadow]

How many times are we going to hear this excuse?

Yes, I want my online experience to be without anyone that would be ready, willing, and able to take my personal information for malicious purposes.

But at the same time, Sony has yet to even give us a target date or a deadline to when they expect everything to be done and back for us to play. I understand the wanting to keep people's identity safe and all, but we've gone for nearly a week without any word about ANYTHING unless it's them saying "oh, there's nothing new to report on this" and leave us in the dark about what's taking so damn long. If they want to make sure everything is okay, or if they needed to start from scratch, then come out and SAY that instead of leaving us wondering what the hell is going on. Why is that so hard for Sony to do? They don't have to tell us everything, but they need to tell us SOMETHING other than the BS they have done throughout this mess.

It's not going to help anyone's cause if we PS3 gamers are at each others throats about whining about "biased media", or "whiny gamers who cannot understand what Sony must do", etc. Yes, we get that they were hacked, and yes, we do blame whoever did it for taking it down. But why is it that getting rid of the "PS3 must die" crowd means we have to stop calling Sony out when they have to be, as well? Why is it that anyone who dares call Sony out about their handling of this situation met with so much venom on this site from the fanboys with nothing better to do than to drown out any real debate? I don't know why it has to be!

In short, your post is part of the problem, not the solution.

[actas123]

Not sure why everybody is excited for. I mean is that good news? or bad news? Even with the deadline still it means it will take another three weeks for restoration of service and that is completely unacceptable. I don't know what retarded security team they hired for that but it really shouldn't take this long

[mac_sparrow]

thank god you know the inner workings of such a large network, otherwise I wouldn't have given your opinion any credence.

yeah the downtime sucks, but let's just get on with it.

[--------]

If it takes a month...Sonys fucked.

[limewax]

Have you ever personally sat there and created a network to hold 70 million accounts, with up to a possible 24 million users at one time, while handling purchases and security info that is already being threatened to be attacked again so needs to be extremely solid.

Yes its taking ages, but a lot of people dont seem to understand the technicality of it. No matter what company this was going to take ages, Have a think about how long MS work on each dashboard update

[mac_sparrow]

ah look at the disagrees, seems I'd have got less of them if I'd played the blame game and called someone a retard.

Oh well, we live and learn.

[NeoTribe]

You've rebuilt a online gaming network before? Quick call them right now and tell them u got this shit!

[flankhim]

It will be back before E3.

[n4gisatroll]

Like I've said before, it better be or it will b an embarrassment, not to mention stupid they would waste time at a conference with a network that not up. I really want it up sooner then later but I have a feeling it's going to take awhile.

[Rusco87]

You think they would be aiming for a day or two before the LA Noire release, with all it's dlc pre order incentives. People with both ps3 and xbox might be changing their order from the single blu ray to the 3 disk xbox copy to get their dlc along side the launch

[MTEC8]

Hope its back up by this weekend, just hurry up. This is taking way too long.

[llMurcielagoll]

I dont know why you got that much disagrees but I think it is probably trolling disagrees lol.

Bubbles up, well said.

[MostJadedGamer]

Sony MUST have PSN fixed before E3. That can NOT go into E3 with PSN still being down or it will be absolutely distasterous for them.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

No it wouldn't I doubt it will even have an impact. This is buisness and everyone knows they have this problem, its not new news.

[jeseth]

No impact?

If Sony doesn't have this up at E3 Microsoft will add to their presentation that they have the "most secure" online gaming experience.

Its bad enough they have ammo with what has already transpired . . . if PSN stays like this until E3, they are f'd.

Plus, with more and more games coming out they are losing sales. People aren't going to go out and get those day 1 sales because there is no PSN.

This situation is getting worse by the day.

[madpuppy]

@Dart89, Who cares if they "switch to xbox" that will mean less whining babies to deal with online when PSN it is finally up.

Plus, they can enjoy all the wonderful kinect games as well as the "extensive" line up of exclusives that are flying out of all the MS owned first and second party studios. /s blah.

[Exydoz]

well Sony should care if they lose costumers, this has not been handled well, it's been down for THREE WEEKS already and they can't even commit to having it back up and running within the next three weeks, now thats f-ing BS...

[madpuppy]

@Exydoz, It's gonna' take as long as it takes, being all pissed off and threatening Sony is NOT going to return the service any faster. It's not like they are sitting on their collective hands at Sony laughing about how nobody has service and that besides themselves, all their partners are losing millions of dollars.

The vitriol and threats do nothing and are a waste of time. what do YOU want? the servers back up configured inproperly and poor security? or a properly secured and configured system that runs smoothly?

It's not like they are reinstalling windows on one system for god sakes!!

[JD_Shadow]

1. Which group is the one doing the "vitriol", as you put it? Every time I so much as say Sony should share some of the blame for handling this like a bunch of jackwagons, I get nothing less that a full on assault on me by the usual trolls calling ME one! You're confused on who's supplying the hate (either that or you think only one side is capable of it).

2. Umm...if angry consumers who speak up about Sony's lack of urgency and transparency are not going to motivate them to move a bit faster at this because we're starting to get impatient, then Sony has more problems than just getting hacked. Like I said above, I get that Sony was hacked and it might take a bit to get things back up, but that didn't mean that when I give them an inch they take a mile! At the very least give us some update as to why you're taking so long. If it needs to be rebuilt completely, then say that. You can say something without revealing every little detail.

It took Sony a week after the fact to notify ANYONE that they were at risk of identity theft from this. I understand the investigation and all, but they should've been a LOT more upfront even considering THAT!

And this hacking thing all happened while Sony was busy trying to screw Hotz over (with all the fanboys approving of the screwing).

*waits for the usual kids to try to disagree with me by saying the same things we've heard and gone over ten million times like they're a WoW bad toon bitching for dungeon nerfs all the time...all while saying I'm somehow against other POVs by saying that*

[orange-skittle]

Dart89, you got disagrees for being a fanboy. Is Sony going reimburse all those Netflix subscribers? Of course people are going to go to XBL since Sony hasn't stated when they will return service. They can return service in a month and you will still stand behind them...Why? Because you're a fanboy! This is totally unacceptable. People have games that they cant even play because the service has been down for 3 weeks. 90% of the games made today use MP to extend the life of the product. Without MP, a lot of these games would be back in the sleeves from which they came in.

[iTwisteDi]

Do u even have Netflix? ??.. I watch movies just fine

[orange-skittle]

Naaah, I dont have Netflix, I just said that so that I can be like the cool kids. Why would I lie about having it for PS3 if I have it for XBL? If you're a subscriber, you have it for anything that can stream it MR. I NEED A FOLLOWING ON N4G. Does that make any damn sense? It worked fine for the first week or so and then it stopped. Now it just says CONNECTING.....RETRIEVING TITLES....(TRY AGAIN)
Before when it asked for your PSN sign in, you could hit "O"(back) and bypass it...but not anymore. Now that XBL has Hulu PLUS...I am just fine w/ Netflix and Hulu. About to lower my Directv bill

[Biggest]

How can you lie about like that? Netflix has not been bothered by the PSN being down.

[InfiniteRetro77]

lol you're a gimp. you're complaining that a network breach caused by criminals is down and yet ppl PAY for xbox live. xbl gold must be maintained as a subscription or all those 90% of games you own on xbox wont have working multiplayer functionality. guess what, when psn is back up, its still gonna be free to play online lol how you like having your games held for ransom ROFL

[JD_Shadow]

Oooo...kay!

So how was you able to do this? I tried it and it told me I had to sign into PSN to be able to use it! Of course THAT isn't going to happen right now!

[tplarkin7]

Sony is doomed if they don't get PSN running in the next few days. May 31 will be way too late.

[Ricco-Warrior]

they should deny it, sounds like they want to wait till july 31 to put back up after they show they new content at E3( which i'm going because i've been such an ass and rewarding myself in doing so )

[RIPSKATEDESTROY]

wow, another article about NOTHING NEW.... geeez calm down everyone

[Ateanboy]

yea.. its true.. I havent played my ps3 for a MINUTE, but as soon as dem servers come back up imma start again. I jus been real busy with things... know what i mean?.. jail & shit... but im back!!!!!!

[SephireX]

Though how can one not accuse Sony of incompetence for having such a weakly secured online service? Sure the hackers caused the problem but they wouldn't have been able to do anything if PSN was properly secured. Even though I don't like M$, something like this has never happened to Live where it has been offline for weeks and the personal information of its users stolen. A lot of people with both consoles who didn't subscribe to Live before, probably have started to do so now. Though I think a lot of people will still stick with PSN, if Sony can manage to properly secure it this time. Sony are very lucky this didn't happen in the fall. Imagine having Uncharted 3 and not being able to play online? Thus, they really need to secure the PSN now and ensure this doesn't happen ever again in order to keep the trust of their customers.

[razrye]

I agree with you. These things need to be sorted out properly.

[50Terabytespersec]

I will wait this out in the meantime i am playing GT5 in 1080p none the less , all i can say is wow!
The photo travel sections wow,and with amazing off road courses who need online gaming?
this is where it is at!!
Also why no coverage on the new Motor storm ? and yet all this tired coverage of PSN ?
let Sony do what it feels best and is safe for all of us and the continuity of their network.
What happened to PSN,happened for a reason and with that We get to get out perhaps and exercise or do something else with this offline time!

Remember the days of Sega Genesis when games were games and the days of N64.you actually had friend over at your house or you played a few late nights and went out with friends. now we stay home get fat and eat late play online all night and are afraid of women and binge and have blood sugar problems and have no culture of financial or political knowledge of what is going on around us!
how about this PSN downtime be used as a positive?
too much Technology can help as well as harm human lives.

[blackburn10]

As long as it is before May 31 that's fine. PSN is not the basis of a PS3 thank goodness. Sony was smart to make it an entertainment center as well as a gaming system and to not skimp on the SP for their games. Don't get me wrong. I want PSN back too. I am itching to get Outland and get a crack at it. I hate the hackers who did this.

[NBT91]

If you have patience, you are not a true gamer XP.
Nah I kid of course, all I really used PSN for was to play multiplayer which was not a whole lot anyway, most of the time I was just signed in for the sake of being signed in I think.
But it is definitely a large part of the PS3 and perhaps they are denying the 31st deadline because it might be up much sooner? I always thought it was a bit strange to go from "within a week" to "within a month"

[The_Ultimate_Guy]

@ actas123

I have a 360 also. F* PSN. It can be down forever as far as I am concerned. Maybe "games" shouldn't limit themselves to just 1 console and be flaiming fanboys on a website dominated by those we do not speak of. That way situations like this are less of a concern.

[Too_many_games]

i have been using Netflix on PS3 since the outage but now i cannot connect. Can anyone try to see if they can connect please?

[UltimateIdiot911]

On it right now, no issue.

Edit:
It is running a bit slow but it works.

[Too_many_games]

alright, Thanks :D

[cr33ping_death]

yeah.... i seem to of run into the same problem.... gives me an error code :( noooooo

[chaos-lockheart]

I thought you can watch it on a pc? or anything with a browser?

[orange-skittle]

It doesnt matter if I can watch it on PC just like anything else. The point is I want to watch it on my 55 inch plasma for which is connected to my PS3. Thats the point. Without PSN, Netflix is useless. At least with XBL you have Last.fm, facebook, Twitter, Hulu PLUS, ESPN, and Netflix. And like I stated earlier...YES I CAN USE MY PC, BUT THATS NOT THE POINT

@ Raiinstorm81
GEARS 3 Beta is off the hook. I love that sh!t. They made it sooo much better. That new Lancer is the truth. People are now using the Lancer more because of the unbalance of the weapons. The shotguns are no longer being used as primary weapons. The destruction, the interactive environments(ie sandstorm while fighting, scoreboard falling to provide cover), character and weapon customization, and new point system. THANK YOU EPIC!

[-Alpha]

"Despite earlier reports claiming the PlayStation Network would be up and running by May 31"

What reports? The ones our credited journalists made? It was clear Sony never said PSN was coming the 31st

[Motorola]

I saw a forum post on the official forums a MOD posted that PSN will be 100% up by May 31st. In parenthesis behind that sentence though it said. Online play returning first or something of that nature

[Esena]

Wait is this article saying there simply is no deadline, or is it saying that they think it will take longer than May 31st?

[-Alpha]

@motorola

My bad if that's true, but I remember Sony saying that their services generally (not PSN specifically) would be online by the 31st, and I think an article on here made it sound like it was PSN that was going to be coming the 31st. Maybe I'm not recalling correctly

[Fil101]

totally agree with you and from what I read i'm sure the big wigs at sony said that they were hoping to restore ALL PS3 SERVICES BY 31st may

[Speakindatruth]

Definitely time to get a 360, especially if they're denying a PSN return date.

[Rainstorm81]

Go get one.....DOnt know why you waited this long.

This is the benefit of being a multiple console owner, been playing Outland, Call of the Dead and Gears 3 beta for my online fix on 360, then whenever PSN is back i gcan get back to GT5 online

[Speakindatruth]

I had one for three and a half years, but once it RRoD'd the tenth time (yarly) I sold it with my games collection. Didn't see this coming.
Also, don't really get the disagrees. I'm a patient person, and I've always been behind Sony. Hell, I waited for the PS3 before I bought the 360--and I bought it for $600 at launch, YLOD'd three years in, paid for the slim replacement, and bought an additional PS3 console. But when Sony's saying "WAIT, we never said it would definitely be up by May 31 it could be later," I'm definitely a little pissed. Not that I can't get my Brink fix on PC, but that I'm paying for Hulu Plus, PS+, and DCUO--the more expensive of which I'm getting billed for, still--and can't do shit about it.
Two weeks was okay. Three weeks made me frustrated. And now I'm resorting to my PC for of course, a gaming device that is unfortunately inferior in terms of community base. Sorry. It's just not friendly to the average consumer. Tried to get my brother into it. He loved the better graphics, hated the online communities and the mouse/keyboard--felt it was inferior, like playing the ol' atari. He was like "are you kidding me? PC games? Really? My friends aren't going to play games on the computer! It's too much trouble!" And as much as I beg to differ, he's exactly right.
As casual as this sounds, I want to play with my friends after I get home from a hard days work. I just finished Portal 2, Socom 4, Black Ops [veteran difficulty], Demon Souls, The ENTIRE Orange Box [AGAIN], and KZ3 (which, well... kind of sucked). I'm BORED. I didn't even think that was possible.
PSN needs to go back on... NOW. Stop backing Sony and get ON THEIR BACKS. We need the PSN ON NOW. Fighting them to get it on is our only option. The more patient we are with them, the longer it takes and the shorter it takes til' you crack next. This is ridiculous, and securing a network really isn't this hard unless you're completely rebuilding it from scratch. We need the inside scoop, we need it back up. We paid for our console to have this service and it is still non-existent.

[Rainstorm81]

people disagree just disagree....very rarely do i even hit the disagree button as its enough of that disagree spaming going around already...

i feel you pain though i had a 60gb fat ps3 that ylod on me and i got a slim replacement as well, PSN being down is an a hassle but i personally rather it stay down a return fixed then it return last week only to lose it again, and personally i usually game more on my ps3, but with this outage i gotta get my online fix somehow and as you said PC isnt the answer at least for me it isnt.

[retrofly]

Agree, I've had both consoles and and PC for gaming, though the PS3 had been gathering dust for a while even before the PSN outage, I only use it for PS3 exsclusives.

I play my xbox online nearly everyday I wouldnt be happy even if it was down for a day. Though it is paid for but I guess thats what you get for a paid service, reliability.

[Ravenor]

Lol, PC inferior community...lol. To much, wayyy to much. It also sounds like my PC that I've built for myself has had less problems then your 360 or PS3.

On topic: Can I play Mortal Kombat online yet? People have been defending Sony since borderline day 1 with the usual crap response "Do you want it secure or not" ladies, I thought we had come to the agreement that no network is safe.

[morkendo23]

Too_many_games
i have been using Netflix on PS3 since the outage but now i cannot connect. Can anyone try to see if they can connect please?

my netflick has not been on since april 17th

[UltimateIdiot911]

It's been really slow the last 2-3 hours. Now after exiting and opening Netflix, there has been some issue loading. It takes a few try but it connects. But I can't seem to load the videos.

[Johnny Jiron]

Those on ps3 I just wanna note Netflix on my tv is also running slow. especially yesterday. so it may have more to do with netflix than the ps3

[Esena]

I don't understand how they can say no new information is available...

There better be new info available since their last optimistic post on Thursday 5/05!

[Myst]

Shame that the Playstation blog has not been updated today either. :|

[Xenial]

Sony, May 30th is no better than May 31st.

[Tired]

But it's my birthday!

[scotchmouth]

Happy Birthday early!

[CtrlAltDel]

Ha! If you only own a PS3, perhaps it's time to reconsider...either chop ya arm off & spend major $$$ to build up your PC to play online or buy a 360.

That way you'd have multiplayer alternatives!

Between Steam & XBL, I don't miss a thing! I love playing online w/friends & love the competition of playing with/against REAL people. Much more fun than playing by yourself.

You won't catch me singing Cameo's old 80's hit; "I'm living the single - single (player) life" lol

But why would Sony announce a turn on date? They would just set themselves up cause ya know anom or whoever is watching & waiting to test 'em out!

EDIT: RE: Disagrees - I forgot on the N4G ToS it says NEVER to mention buying or playing another system - especially xbox - as opposed to the PS3! What was I thinking??

[gaden_malak]

I disagreed because it's moronic. The PS3 isn't rendered useless, it just can't play online.

Plenty of offline games to play. Better than spending $300 plus $50 to play online plus another $50 per game on a new console.

[blackburn10]

Exactly. Unlike the other system out PS3 is not 'rendered useless' because we don't have PSN. Sony very kindly gave us other things to do with it when PSN is down. Currently playing SP, watching Blurays, surfing the web and listening to music. And when PSN does come back. I will continue on playing and waiting for my exclusives. Can't wait for Infamous 2. @ xX_TrueShot46_Xx still spouting the same crap after all this time.If Anon hadn't hacked them we would have been in this position

[CtrlAltDel]

"The PS3 isn't rendered useless, it just can't play online."

So pls tell me gaden...who the phuk said PS3 was "rendered useless"???

My whole point was to OPT for other systems CAUSE it can't (currently) play online.

Is not having two cars better than 1? How about two girls?

You guys get too defensive here! Sheesh!

[Fez]

It depends if you can afford...or you are a mormon...

[Johnny Jiron]

Or if you have a ps3 and xbox you stock up n all those handy promo and codes from purchases amd other stuff. Keep your main online gaming on the free ps3, but now when something such as this happens, you can start burning through your cache of free gold codes. Additionally there is an online community on Twitter who share all their codes. Sounds like a smart alternative to me.

Tho its a gamble at this point since Sony won't give a proper estimation so you risk buying a 360 only to have psn POP up tomorrow. At least you'll be prepared I guess.

[thebudgetgamer]

while it sucks that it's down, i was good timing for me as i had just re-uped my xbl the day before psn went down. options is always better.

back to gears 3.

[M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L]

So people should buy a completely new system because PSN is down.

I don't know if you're being serious or sarcastic right now. It's not like your system is dead or something. IT CAN STILL PLAY GAMES.

[2v1]

if only i could play socom4 on the pc or 360...

[KarrBOMB]

@CtrlAltDel

Yeah that's how it is on N4G, if you love the PS3 no matter what then your accepted, if you say anything about the 360, no matter how intelligent or well written it is, then they will attack you and show all the signs of an Inferiority complex. The site has a ton of cool links and stories, but a ton of the fanboys will just lash out and say retarded s**t because that's all they know.

Most of the fanboys prove only to be a loyalist and not a gamer. There's great games on every system that is exclusive, I don't care what system were talking about either, ( PS3, 360, Wii, PC ). They all have great games and I'm a gamer, that's why I don't hinder myself to one system and limit my choices.

@Blackburn10

Do you live with your parents or just work at McD's? I use my PS3 and 360 for gaming, My Laptop for browsing, my car and home stereo system w/ Ipod for music, and get this... I use a bluray player for movies. Why, because everything in 1 gives you a limit on quality. And you can really use the exclusive argument for anything. 360 - Fable / Gears of war / Halo PS3 - Infamous / Killzone / Metal Gear Wii - Zelda / Mario / Punchout ...... See how that works, everyone has good exclusives, you should try being a gamer instead of hating on anything that's not PS3 related just because you don't know any better.

[cr33ping_death]

so deny it as in, itll be up earlier? or itll still take some time after the 31st?

[Esena]

This is the question I don't understand either... Sigh Sony...

[cr33ping_death]

oh look a disagree to a question... how is that even possible?

never mind, i forgot what site i was on.

[--------]

Well, if May 31st was the 'deadline' and they denied it, that COULD mean that their real deadline is earlier than that date.

As they're being so unbelievably vague right now they wouldn't give any other details, for fear of getting all our hopes up again.

Or it might just take longer than that.

[xX_TrueShot46_Xx]

hmm maybe if sony were on top and kept a close eye on their security department we wouldn't be in this position in the first place, plain and simple

[xXBlondieVanHarlowXx]

I heard Anonymous's IP addresses leaked on google so with Homeland security and the FBI on they're arses they won't be a problem for much longer,,

Also, anyone notice how earlier today the sign-in message changed from "The Playstation Network is under maintenance" to "Error you have been signed out" @_@ Is that of any significance?

[ziggurcat]

not really - it has changed from time to time in the last 3 weeks between the maintenance message and a few different error codes.

[cr33ping_death]

that happens when you first turn on your ps3 and if you have auto sign in.... i get that every day i turn on my ps3 :(

[Eiffel]

How can Anonymous's IP addresses leak when anyone can be Anonymous? And whatever IP's they may have may not even involve people who have anything to do with whats going on. That's retarded.

[SpLinT]

the people who hacked the ps3 arent "anybody". its not like 1000 anonymous people hacked it. its just like 1 or 2 guys who are labelled as anonymous

[KarrBOMB]

@Blackrose

"Anonymous's IP addresses leaked on google..."

Umm, they are not a specific organization with a list of who's a part of it and who isn't. It's literally people from all over the world who just agree to do something for a specific cause, that's it. They aren't the Elks Club or Costco, so how exactly was Anonymous's IP addresses leaked and what random person told you this?

Don't believe everything you hear, because that makes no sense or you only heard part of a story. This is just another example of communication tools spreading false information faster.

[GrumpyVeteran]

PSN for 2012.

Yes we can!

[OC_MurphysLaw]

This is not exactly the news you want to hear. I mean make it safe and secure ... but you can just altogether stop with the "we hope next week" BS if you won't commit at all. This is just more poor PR.

[xXBlondieVanHarlowXx]

@ziggurcat
Dammit i was hoping i was onto something lol
@cr33ping_death
I don't have auto sign-in on, i tried to sign-in manually after poking around N4G for a while :p

[MR LOOKINGBILL]

the deadline is the end of the month because e3 kicks off the following week. It would be a travesty if the service isn't restored when e3 kicks off'... trust me on this heass will roll.

[hazelamy]

so, does that mean they don't expect to have to wait till the end of the month or they can't promise it'll be up by the end of the month?

[hadouken007]

No multi player? For a good time call 862-235-9497.

[Baba1906]

i just wish it come online soon =( or at least a date.

[Thoreau]

i do believe that sony should give us some psn credit. they screwed up and now make should make some type of good will gesture towards it's loyal fans, even if it is a 10 buck credit. sorry does not always satisfy me, action has to be initiated toward repairing this situation.

[TheBrit]

why should they? if your a free user using a free service they don't owe you squat. It's even written somewhere in the t.o.c regarding downtime etc.

If your a psn+ user, sure the amount of time that the service is down should be tacked onto the end of your psn+ subscription.

That's it - nothing more.

When the ps2 was out should they have given you stuff purely for not having a decent online setup that was worth writing home about? Even though the xbox had a great online setup even back then? No.

I don't think they owe anyone anything.

And yes. I actually have a ps3 but I only game on my 360.

[Thoreau]

whatever man about you owning both systems. if you go to a nice place to get something to eat and service was not up to par, you would get something to make a "mends" towards your money. The psn network security was not up to par. I have identity protection, so my issue is not the identity theft, but how sony has handled the situation.

here is my psn tag-southpaw79

here is my xbl tag-heavens boxer

[TheBrit]

#Thoreau exactly so you agree with me! If you go to a nice place to eat etc. your paying for a service so rightly so, if it is not up to par you should get compensated - which is exactly what i said mate about the PSN+ service, you should get the month added to the backend of your subscription.

PSN is free though so I don't think anything should be compensated.

if I was eating at a soup kitchen because I was homeless, I certainly wouldn't complain about how the food tasted...

[TheOneWhoKillsYou]

Fuck this shit. I'm playing with my Wii until everything is settled.

[Soplox]

Same here, at last my Wii have some use

OFF TOPIC

If the Wii2 proves to be better than the 360 and PS3 I'll sell my PS3 to get it.

[cyclonus007]

I'll bet you will... ;)

[juanvan]

Sometime or another - it will be back online - When is anyone's guess - But is spring - get a Girl, work on the lawn; get out of the house - Go swimming in the Mississippi, I hear the surf is perfect right now.

[morkendo23]

would not be surprise if and when psn be announce back online at E3 with new firmware.

[CoryHG]

I said June. They're denying it because they can. I don't care if hackers have my info, b/c 9000 other corporations do. I just won't have my credit card on file. Turn the damn thing back on.

[Droid Control]

No PSN by May 31st no more PS3. I'm trading it in out of pure anger if Sony don't get PSN back up by 12 midnight May 31st.

[ZBlacktt]

then go..... anyone else not got a life? I'm so freaking busy doing single player trophies. I'm not missing a thing. Over 120 trophies 1 plat ( amlost 2 more ). But then again, I come from a time way way before online stuff. So I'm not so spoiled to go back to my roots.

[phatfreddy1978]

Yeah they meant June 31st.
Go ahead hit the disagree button you bunch of babies I own a PS3 too just go with it.

[Nemesis4567]

You do realize June only has 30 days right?

[phatfreddy1978]

That's the joke you clown.

[ironwolf]

I guess you get what you pay for.

[miDnIghtEr]

It's a free service. There should be no complaining. One of the biggest bullet points for any Sony fan, is that they game online for free. They owe you nothing. It will be on when it comes back on. It's been on more than it's been off. So for free, that's good.

[alex3369]

if they had that attitude when psn first came around, then the ps3 wouldve lost to the xbox 360 and there would be no playstation anymore. they owe everyone including me and you a shit ton more than they have right now. id pay 50 bucks a year rather than no online so they cant be down for 3 plus weeks.

[jimmywolf]

really hate the smug response of it free cant complain or you get what you pay for -.- their was no option too pay for better service, it was a "selling point" of free online. it no excuses for lack of follow threw with security or taken you time fixing the issue when it happens. 1 week i understand, 2 week it happens, 3 week plus ??? that BS an anyone kissing their ass saying it fine, need too learn hacker or not that not how company should handle things

[TBONEJF]

AND YOU JOURNALIST out their NEED TO STOP MAKING UP DATES for us PSN users it's really pisses me off cause you think you know when it's going to be on IT WON'T BE ON UNTIL SONY says so.

[trainsinrdr]

wtf so it could be another month before its back?

[Strider_X9]

Sony hasn't confirmed a day when it is due to be back on, hopefully it will be as soon as possible, and for me it's given me the chance to catch up on alot of my single player games.

Sony are taking their time to make sure it is completely secure, and for the PSN to be even better. We've had it for 5 years as a free service, and this is the only time it's had a major problem, so for all the whiners just chillax a little bit, and just be patient.

[DWOM]

I think PSN may be down, but only the store, while the multiplayer elements will be fixed... that's what I THINK and hear around...

[lochdoun]

May 31 pushed back?
OUCH!

[JMyers]

Sony will turn on PSN when its Safe. The worst thing would be for them to turn on the service and have it hacked again. That's in no one's interest.

@People blaming Sony... Do some reading for a change. they got hacked, like the hundreds of companies this year alone. Most likely because of the court case and threats that followed. No I'm not okay with it, and its not okay. Yes I'm pissed off, but more at the people who did it. Sony is now sharing information, which they held back initially.

@Hacker supporters and fanboys.. You should be ashamed to call yourself gamers. This is hurting the Industry, developers and gamers, not just Sony or the PS3.

@People wanting Free Stuff... Microsoft gave away Undertow when they had network issues. PSN is a free service, yet Sony will reward you with about $25 worth of content (when everything is considered). Then again, no matter what is given away, people still won't be happy. Even its a full blown game, some will say "I already own that 360".

The service being down benefits no one, especially Sony. Of course the are working around the clock to bring the service back up. Until then be patient.

[Who]

ITA.

On another note I think these articles and comments have many people on edge. I have been patient but I will admit the wait is getting to me.

Every time I check N4G for news, all I see are articles just letting me know PSN is not back up with no reassurance to when it will be up and it does feel like a slap in the face. So I can imagine how the hardcore gamers must feel.

For the past few weeks, I have been catching up on my single player games, but unfortunately it gets old pretty quickly and just reminds me that I could be playing it online.

So for now, I've just set aside the games and let SONY do their thing.

[tweet75]

i hope it is up by E3, that would be very embarrasing for sony. Id like to see jack tretton explain that away on stage.

[Ace_Man_6]

Yeah, they denied it because it's gonna take longer lol

[Strider_X9]

Personally I hope they take as long as they need to make sure it's completely fixed. For me it's showing the immaturity of certain gamers demanding it to be back now, when they know full well Sony are currently fixing it from the ground up.

This will end up with the PSN being more secure, and to hopefully run even better than before.

[Bell Boy]

could not agree more

[SteveSmith]

I am a PS3 fan but this is starting to take way too long. Sony will lose a lot of PS3 players and I am not trolling while saying this. This has the potential to be a disaster. They need to bring the servers online asap!

[MyNameIsNotRick]

I know other companies get hacked but do they take this long to get their stuff back up. To say this is taking too long is relative to simalar situations. Just asking...I really don't know. Fyi-im not talking about a comparison between ms and sony. MS had sporatic outages because thier servers were overloaded...not hacked.

[Strider_X9]

How will they lose alot of PS3 players? They are fixing it as we speak, and I'm sure it won't be to much longer until it's back up again. Would you really want them to turn it back on when it is not ready? Come on, anyone with an ounce of common sense knows Sony are working on rectifying the problem.

[Jonah_Reese]

Wow you literally can't trust too much of anything your hear about the PSN, getting more ridiculous.

[Cosmit]

Well that's a relief.

[Firstkn1ghT]

Meaning May 31 might be to soon for a return??? Oh man, look at all the developers that are going to see a dramatic dip in their software sales. KZ3 already had lower than expected sale, this right here pretty much killed it. A lot of developers are going to be pissed about this.

You guys are missing out in some sweet intense online tournaments of MK. :)

[powerfulally]

I like my PS3, but this PSN downtime is getting a bit ridiculous. It's getting to sad/failure status.. Sony must of really took the "It Only Does Everything" seriously....

[Kishin]

This is getting ridiculous.....

[Who]

The lack of updates from Sony lately has got me worried that it could take longer. Even though they say it won't take until the 31st, I'm not holding my breath. Didn't they say recently that it'd be up within a week? It's one thing after another so I don't know what to believe anymore.

[Exydoz]

Now this is getting redicolous, I've been very patient so far but now my patience is running low! Sony first said a couple of days, then a week and now its been out for 3 weeks and they cant even commit to having it back up within the next 3 weeks? Plus they give us fuck all info, Im a ps3 fanboy but I've never been so close to buying an x-box as I am now!!!

[Ninjamonkey82]

Way all you lot are going im gonna have the psn network all to myself lol :D

[CanadianTurtle]

The only reason I'm worried about this is that I don't want my friends to switch over to Xbox. If they do, then I'll have no one to play with since I can't afford an Xbox at the moment.

As a gamer, I can't really live a month without online gaming. We hardcore gamers need it at least once a month.

[Bell Boy]

get a grip man as a hardcore gamer I have been gaming for 30 plus years, the bloody internet didn't even exist..

Even today most of the best gaming experiences are still to be found in sp games imo anyway...and yes I enjoy online too

[Bob570]

Damn, I feel sorry for PS3 gamers.

[rajman]

Come on Sony hurry up already, I've had Mortal Kombat & SOCOM 4 since launch and havent had a single chance to play it online, got BRINK today and cant try that online either =( I always will keep my PS3, but I know many people who have already swicthed over to X360, games like SSF4 is much better to play online on XBL over PSN (not being biased or anything, its a fact. Confirmed by many of the pros playing the game) so I cant help to think that this PSN downtime may have convinced SSF4 players on PSN to finally switch over to XBL

[Bell Boy]

I doubt the majority of people who whine and claim they are going to switch even own a PS3 in the 1st place....

Sure some will switch but like many have said let them, if they whine like babies I doubt many will miss them.

This issue is been worked on by teams of experts, they can't just hire a few casual laborers to get them by a busy time, neither can they just snap their fingers and fix the problem.

It will be back on when it is back on and personally I would rather they take their time and fix it correctly than rush and still be vulnerable.

You can't have it both ways by moaning they should protect your information only to be vulnerable due to rushing...thieving scum will be waiting to try and take it down again as it is

[Who]

I agree.

I wouldn't go as far as switch systems over this. I think some people are just caught up in the heat of things, and are not thinking clearly.

I would never give up the great exclusives PS3 have to offer over PSN being temporarily offline. Some of my favourite games are PS3 exclusives [Uncharted 1,2, 3-soon, MGS4, God of War 3].

I won't say I'm not getting impatient, but SONY is doing their best to ensure OUR safety so with that in mind, I can wait.

BTW, nice pic. ^_^

[dkgshiz]

Yet again I would like to thank the basement dwellers for their fine craftsmanship of no job
and too much time on your hands.

[Wolf951]

I hope the PSN card I bought will activate ok when PSN goes back up

*fingers crossed*

[outwar6010]

bad info is only spreading to lack of solid intel by sony like an eta

[UnagiMaster]

Personally i went out and bought a few new games, did every SP trophy i could and joined a new gym. This doesnt have to be SOO bad. Just sit back and wait it out, hell' read a book!! Bottom line is, your all looking at the glass half empty. And im sure Online play will be on before the 31st. No doubt.

[psychops3]

I can wait

xD

[feejo]

The next new will be that Sony will ask us to pay for all this. And the PSN will not be free anymore. It's just a big joke.

[chuy-510]

i just want to play online. im getting kinda bored in sigle player :(

[chuy-510]

single*

[TBONEJF]

How BOUT STFU N STOP GIVING US BOGUS DATES ON WHEN PSN WILL BE BACK ON. Sony will tell us when its ready n stop btchn bout it. This is why i hate when certain journalist coomplain and lie to us on dates it takes time to fix it and SONY dont want this attack to happened to us again.

[Mindsucker]

Yes thank you Google and N4G for all the valuable information... Why does every child that can reach a keyboard get to be a Journalist?

[Pl4sm4]

urg c'mon there is a button controlling all the psn servers that say (ON)... just press it . work on the security stuff while its online (which i think psn is pretty godam secure) and we be happy as hell (with the free games of course). =D

[VanaTallinn]

awww ... it sucks if they get psn online at 1 june ... lol i have bought like 9 games, since psn is down, and id like to play with them online ... damn ... if psn would return at 1 june .... than its summer ... most time i would be outside than sit inside and play ps3 ... maybe id play 1 hour than i would leave ... i wish psn would come back before summer. ...

[lareka]

I don`t expect them to announce a return date until it`s finally ready but at least they could inform us at what stage they are on fixing it.. Maybe they did not even progressed 10 % , maybe they are half way through or almost done... They should let us know. US = PSN users = whose credit card info. at stake = who are unable to play online games for a while = who bought lots of games and addons on psn store and = who deserve to know when it`s coming back

[NotSoSilentBob]

Misinformation being spread about the PlayStation 3? never in a million years.....

/sarcasm

[AngryEnglish]

Why do they keep saying 77 million registered users?.... its 77 million accounts, my kids have 7 accounts between the 2 of em ffs

[Aarix]

people are desperate to make the ps3 seem so much superior.

[razrye]

If hackers want to hack they will. There is always some way round security

[towelie1288]

still got my ps3 but dont play it much
was playing mgs4 yesterday
but i am on live now
gotta get my call of duty fix
and gears 3 is awesome too

[Aarix]

I know alot of COD addicts who switched from ps3 to xbox cause they were really impatient and idiotic..then again their COD addicts

[Zimmerman]

People have really been fixated on this. I'm kinda surprised at how big of a deal it is to some people.

[LanceyJSC]

You serious? Did I read your comment correctly or are you some kind of confused little boy? Or possibly a little slow maybe?

CAUSE THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ROUND THE WORLD WITH A PS3 AND LIKE TO PLAY ONLINE BUT THEY CANT, FOR OVER 3 WEEKS!

You need a car to drive back and forth to work (unless you are slow in the head and you cant even figure out how to open the car door) without the car you cant work, which means you cant pay bills etc etc. I like to see how angry you get when the garage says "Your car wont be ready for 3 weeks" lets see how well you take that.

Think before you comment you complete cock.

[dazzyrazzy]

dont forget to make a u.s or european account so u get things off both stores!!!!

[ton77]

i just bought a PS3 a week ago and im loving without PSN. But i would like PSN to come back on soon. i beat a some games while PSN was down like Heavy Rain (great game) and The god of war games and mgs4

[phatfreddy1978]

I'll be happy when it comes back on but I realize I did catch up with lots of other great games offline like 3D dot game heroes and Demon's Soul

[goukijones]

Can we just stop posting BS stories until we know for sure it's up. C'mon people, wtf?

[cheameup]

I think it may be a long while.

What if they found the very core of PSN is flawed and have to completley rebuild it?

could be months

[Ascalon94]

I know they want the system back as best as they can, but alot of people are switching over to 360 just because of this. I try to tell them there is no point in getting rid of their PS3 because of this, but ignorance is truly bliss.