MMGN: Sony needed to handle the whole situation much better. They took too long to be truthful with us, and have turned the compensation into a marketing ploy to get gamers to sign up to their paid services. It’s an absolute disgrace.
people are too greedy these days.. i wish i could report this
This same type of article was already posted two days ago guys. It also has the same title. Old news, We already had the PSN Compensation is a disgrace conversation. Its squared away.
Even if it's a marketing ploy so what? Is it bad for Sony to want more PS+ users? Jeezzzz PSN is FREE. If Sony had gave nothing I wouldn't be upset at all. Seriously, what do you people eant Sony to give?
Free stuff in exchange for the inconvenience of a free service shutting down and "leaking" phonebook-level info ("Bu bub but teh useless encrypted CC info!"). Their evil plan to get us to sign up for PS+.....lol. It's a month worth of free access to games, 60-minute full game demos, etc. It's a gift for the inconvenience. Will some people sign up after because they got an awesome taste of it? Of course. But it's not like Sony shut down PSN for a plot to sell us PS+. Logicless conspiracy is logicless.
The spins some of these "journalists" come up with, that's a disgrace.
I find it so stupid how the media/ some game reporters are putting down sony?! I just dont get it?! Sony has tons of first party developers constantly on their feet making great games for us all, plus giving us free online to go with it!!! Why would any gamer hate on that?!?! F**kin retards! Think of the big picture here....
I took the plunge and bought three 360s. Unfortunately, they all RRoD-ed, so I came crawling back to the PS3. True story. I also bought a Wii... then realized Nintendo doesn't have an online service.
@HolyOrangeCows: "phonebook-level info " wow, your phone books have your email address and date of birth in them do they? where do you live? cause ours here in Australia have a name, address and a phone number, and thats only if you CHOOSE to have your details listed. I chose not to. you will not find my name, address or phone number in any phone book, let alone my date of birth or personal email address. it was NOT just basic 'readily available to everyone' information like some people like yourself are trying to make out. it was users private information. @NathanExplosion: "Free content is now bad? " youre missing the point - its not really free because once the month runs out you no longer have access to it. its a loan. i dont expect compensation, but if theyre going to say theyre giving compensation, dont do it in a sly way like this.
@IHateYouFanboys: The data taken from the PSN is still nothing when compared to what you can find with a quick search on the net. If you go to www.192.com and search you can not only find peoples address, phone number and relatives but also links to their personal amazon wish list, facebook, myspace, linkedin pages etc.
Ok here is what will be offered/available for the outage with PS+ along with some other stuff that I am aware of (please add/correct anything necessary) ~ 1 - PS1 Game 2 - PSP/PS Mini Games 1 - PSN Game Free Theme(s) (dynamic and/or static) Free Premium Avatar(s) Discounts on purchases between 20-50% off 1 - PS Qore Digital Video Magazine (May's Issue) Early demo download(s) 1 - Infamous 2 Beta access (most likely as this month is when it wil be available on PS+) 1 - Full Game Trial Automatic Downloads Cloud based game saving And more This will apply to ALL existing PlayStation Network customers and will be provided for 30 days free membership. Current members of PlayStation Plus will receive 30 days free service additional to their subscription. Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity subscribers (in countries where the service is available) will receive 30 days free service. Each territory will be offering selected PlayStation entertainment content for free download. Specific details of this content will be announced in each region soon. <-- (My guess is maybe some free movie from the PS Movie Store? Or stuff for PS Home maybe? We'll have to wait and see for this.) Now since PS+ is in part like a rental service (say like GameFly) you will not be able to keep some of the content you download. So say you DL 1 PS Game, 2 PS Mini's, 1 PSN Game and Qore then proceed to play/beat/view/use/grow tired of said content when the 30days ends you won't be able to use/keep them (any trophies earned WILL be kept though)...Now for items like ~ dynamic themes, premium avatars and premium game elements/add-ons that you download (some exclusive to PlayStation Plus members only) they will be yours to keep forever once you have downloaded them. Additionally anything you buy with the PS+ Discount is yours to keep and enjoy forever. So something that you buy at a deep discount like, lets say...some kind of COD:BO Map Pack DLC that is part of the specials for that month is yours 100%.
I couldn't disagree more with this article. We're talking about a free network here that's been down for only a couple of weeks. It's not like I can't play my PS3 during that time. And PSN+ is a great value. That enables users to play dozens of games free of charge for that month that they normally would have to shell out for. Yeah, it sucks Sony's network was targeted by thieves who apparently got away with our personal information, but the credit card data was encrypted and company's have so far reported no fraud linked to the release of that data. My home address and name is in the yellow pages to anyone who wants to look it up. That part really isn't that big of a deal to me. I'll still keep my cc number online and I won't change my gaming habits with regard to the PSN because I truly feel that while unfortunate - this really isn't that big of a deal. The way people are going on you'd think this was the first time personal information had ever been hacked.
@IHateFanboys I was thinking the same thing, what Phonebooks have Credit Card information in them also?
30 day trial for a service which I have no interest in. Thanks a lot SONY! Def. worth the 2+ week wait!
you also get other free content. And I would use the 30 day trial to get all the free avatars and themes (which you can keep), get discounts on games (which you can keep) and to play the free games you get quickly because they do go away.
So WTF do you want? Discount to many games, themes, avatars you purchase is not good enough for you?
I'm not sure how anyone can evaluate the compensation yet. Sony already said there would be more announcements about it. I'm glad they're focusing on the important things first. Of course, there will be those who'll say that if they had focused on the important things before the breach happened, this mess wouldn't have to be cleaned up now. To that I say, let's try to keep it real. Multiple big name companies, and even the US government, have been breached by this same kind of hacker scum before and it will happen again. Sony needs to get things as secure as possible before turning their attention to appeasing the users of their free service.
Who cares if you only get the plus games for a month. Its a month, how long do you need. If someone gives you a game for a month why complain. What, do you expect them to give 77 million users 100$. Thats insane. The hack is costing enough as it is. The only compensation they needed to provide was the identity theft security.
It's far from a disgrace.
I mean why are people so annoyed about the 30days free playstation plus?..
Yeah ok there's a chance sony may gain from it, but that doesn't remove the fact that on top of the downloadable game everyone gets, you'll be getting more FREE content, games, discounts, themes, avatars, and if you wish to use it for a month cloud storage. They are only going to gain from this if people like the service and if they do whats the big deal there?..
Just another petty reason to hate by another wrongly informed journalist. The hackers accessed the personal info, that doesn't mean it was taken sony aid it may have been taken just to be 'safe' and to warn everyone.
Sony also never took to long to tell everyone, they told everyone everything as soon as they knew, they can't tell you what you don't know, they had to wait for the experts to fully figure out the full extent.
Plus they've already stated that CC data was encrypted and they don't store the 3 digit codes. Meaning even if they cracked the ebcryption they don't have the CVC/Security code which is mandatory for online non-physical purchases.
Sometimes i feel like i should create a gaming site, websites with journalists like this just annoy me.
question i have ....do you need a cc to sign up to this even though its free?
Same here. But he's right about one thing, SONY shouldn't have given ANYTHING in compensation, since they really don't owe us anything. THEN I would like to read these articles and laugh where whiners like this, instead of complaining, are begging for compensation and free stuff for their "time lost." Don't get me wrong, Sony is pretty cool for giving a month free of PSN, and some future store downloads for free, but I hate it when people use it as an excuse of "it's not enough."
GREEEEEEED its a sin you know.
I'll only get mad once it passes 30 days of no PSN. If not, then I'm all for it. Not sure how anyone can be upset with 30 days of PSN Plus, if PSN is only down for let's say, 26 days.
Am I correct in assuming that once this 30 day period is up, all the games and purchases made through and with the advantages of Playstation Plus will be inaccessible? So it's basically a rent-a-compensation, correct? I think, knowing that, I couldn't even enjoy the 30 days.
The only thing you'll be locked out of is the free games. Free avatars and themes are yours forever as well as purchases made on discounted games.
You're wrong in assuming, feartherbottom. You don't lose your purchases or free DLC/avatars/themes. Even your cloud saves are still stored for 6 months after the sub' expires as a contingency. Lots of misinformation out there for an almost year old program. Not a very good article either, makes a lot of assumptions about Plus and the potential appeal of the separate, still unknown free games.What if you get something like SoldnerX-2 and are surprised that it's actually a really good shmup? Will you write a retraction? Personally, I'm glad SOE is comping me a free month ($15 value) of DCUO on top of the days I've lost and with a tier 1 or 2 face armor.
funnily, i posted a blog on N4G with information bout this gift, just in case PSN users are new to the term or bit confused BUT it hasn't been approved yet :L oh well.....
how long do you need to beat a psn game
Only the free games(downloaded specifically by ps+) will be locked once the sub is up, any games bought discounted or themes/avatars will still be yours
WTF is this??
Here we go again Dart89. Old news. Same BS.
It always seems like it's the same people approving theses types of articles.
We live in an entitlement age. Everybody wants something for nothing... Quite trying to stir up something you don't deserve. Waaa I couldn't use PSN for over a week... I want a year of free games and a trip to the GDC. Anything less and I'll cry and whine and post articles on the internet.
[QUOTE]Who in their right mind is actually paying for PlayStation Plus[/QUOTE] Wow MMGN/Ben Salter, what an unecessary troll dig. I was once a skeptic but after trying a 3 month plan I liked it because: Cloud Storage. Demon's Souls save finally safe. PS Plus DCUO beta convinced me to buy the game. Exclusive 30+ MvC3 avatar bundle rocks. Never would've tried Sam&Max otherwise ($35 value) and I enjoyed it. Got Dead Nation for cheap. MAG free to play. Buncha mini's free for my PSP. I keep all trophies earned and all free avatars/themes. Early demos rock (MortalKombat, KZ3). [QUOTE] The compensation would have been more gracious had Sony announced what the software is.[/QUOTE] Then maybe you should wait until they know what it is, like they asked you to in their press release. FFS, PSN ain't even up yet, where were you planning on downloading it from? How bout you wait to judge until you actually have the game(s) and the network is actually back instead of rushing a cynical column to print. Moron.
why are these spoiled brats allowed to write on the internet? Honestly this psn blackout has mangaed to expose the extreme bias of blogger and so call "professional" toward Sony.
greedy opinion article, three hundred and sixty degrees of jealousy
u mean 360 fanboy? lol
I dont know why people are complaining for the compensation? I bet this guy dont even have a psn account.
Total joke. Can people not happy getting something thats free ? Its not like you pay for the base service of the PSN!
A very unprofessional opinion...
yeah and if this would have happened to xbox live it would be the same maybe even worse. MS isnt above being low do i have to bring up the paying for good halo 2 scores in certain magazines scandal?
well, what can they do? we and sony just have to take it on the chin and move on with the improved security of psn and the 'im sorry' gifts.
this guy is a disgrace to gamers and journalist ...
Well everybody know haters will hate no matter what, even if they receive a million dollars from sony. Then we would have articles like Sony's million dollar compensation not enough? Is Sony being greedy with a million dollars? Sony's million dollar is pathetic, should of been two.
Wow, the guy spends a good chunk of the article slagging Sony about the software we will get for free when the system is back up, he doesnt know what the software will be but chooses to take the line that it will be rubbish and then continues his little tirade. Well done mate, you got my hit, but the only conclusion I have come to from your drivel is that you are dumb. Congratulations!
...is this article. Move along folks, nothing to see here.
If this happened on the other consoles. You would get nothing, nada, zip from the other companies. I only wanted the time i lost playing DCUO thats all. But with free month of ps plus and a month free of DCUO also including how long they been off, is a nice compensation. Even tho i didnt expect to get all of this. Great job Sony! Now find those hackers and put them in jail.
f@#K OFF... they want something for nothing? F@#KING IDIOTS.
Again? Didn't we go through this conversation a million times already. Even if you do lose PSN plus you still keep the games you brought on discount and all the avatars and backgrounds. Whatever Sony gave you it would NEVER be enough.Greed always wins out. Even if they gave everyone free $50.00 PSN cards and handed out free PS3 games in the street, it still wouldn't be enough. While the other company tossed a crappy game in your face for your troubles and everyone was satisfied with that. I didn't hear anyone complain that it wasn't enough and should get more.
Im confused shouldnt the criminals pay for the crime not the victims, just a thought.
i dont want anything ,i just want psn back . i got socom day 1 and only have played one day online ,i could have just waited for a price drop or sale and i just preorderd brink yesterday in the hopes that psn will be on by tuesday .i was goin to buy a 3 month 4 my 360 but for $25 i decided to wait out for psn i hope its on before brink
another trash article written by a pathetic bastard. People just can not suck it up and move on, can they?
Trash articles from no-count sites are a disgrace.
Little kiddies believe everything should be free thats what lead to this problem in the first place if i remember right, So now Sony gives some Free stuff for a free service. Yet the little kiddies they are still not happy. Who would have thought i blame the parents.
I blame the parents and the schools. This generation of kids are ass hats. They think the world owes them something and the world should die if they don't get it. I would hate to be raising a kid right now.
I know what you mean. I am raising three kids right now. An 8 year old son, 5 year old daughter and a 3 year old daughter. They are all spoiled little brats. I take most of the credit for it as i try to give them all the things I didn't have when I was a kid. The other problem is all their friends who are also spoiled by their parents. Every time my son plays with his friends he comes back talking about the latest and greatest new things they have.
The only way things will get better is if we as a society quit giving our children everything they want when they want it. As hard as it may be to actually do. It's hard to walk that line of providing and spoiling. Believe me I know.
I don't know about that, I think this attitude is inherent in most people that live in wealthy politically correct countries. We expect too much and when it doesn't go our way we look to blame someone else. The fact that Sony has been crucified for something that has cost them more than anyone else concerned is proof of that. People are never responsible for their actions and when they are at fault it is because of some injustice, but don't say that out loud, you might get labelled as racist/sexist/homophobic/anti semetic/islamaphobic etc...
@dragon82. My GF has 2 kids and she is horrible with spoiling them. I keep telling her it's only going to lead to trouble later in life when they don't get their way. They are 6 and 3 and I'm already starting to see the signs.
some people are never pleased... spoiled kid camouflaged as a journalist...
Haha, look at the disagrees, nearly every comment has one disagree only. Any guesses who that might be......Ben Salter perhaps? Loser.
trolling to get hits
Would be great if N4G had a sort of troll filter... Half of the news of these days would finish in the spam folder.
I wouldn't mind a pick among one of Sony's greatest hits games. I've never played Resistance or Crack in Time.
playstation plus is crap and i think its aimed at people who like playing many mini games i think it would've been smarter for sony to allow everyone participation into the uncharted 3 beta
You jelly bro?
No click from me. I stay far away from articles like this. Good riddance. Ill be laughing while playing all the Sony exclusives this year.
We could expect to hear this kind of articles.. >_>
People always want more and more and when they get somthing they want even MORE...
NEXT.... *moving on*
Im so sick of people complaining, Its a FREE! service, you should be happy that were getting anything at all because in all reality they don't owe us anything
It's funny how all these articles that cry over Sony's compensation plan leave out the fact that they are also buying free credit monitoring for EVERYBODY!!! That's gotta be expensive!