Where Microsoft was all about the here and now, pointing to their monstrous victory in September hardware sales, Sony's comments on last month's numbers were a bit more analytical, more... forward thinking.
"Sony's comments on last month's numbers were a bit more analytical, more... forward thinking" ohh please... don't give me that crap... cry me a river... analitical my @$$... The PS3 just got raped by the xbox 360 and Sony is talking about the PSP, PS2 and Ratchel and Clank!? Please Sony stop with the bull... you better start thinking about the how you are planning to stop Master chief to from sticking the Gravity Hammer up little yellow cat @$$ this XMass... and that's not even counting... Ace Combat... Mass Effect... why don't you forward think about that. @nasim - Nasim why don't you show the sales figures... so you we can all compare it with the US numbers... mmm... the US represents 60-70% of the game industry... 60% of all PS2 were sold in the US making it the most important region for the game industry.... Isn't proof enough after two years for constant b!tch slapping against the PS3 proof that the xbox 360 DO NOT NEED japan to succeed? Japanese developers are making games for the xbox 360.. including Square.... so... who cares if the PS3 is selling 10K more consoles than the xbox 360 in japan if is behind by 400K in the US... can't you do the math? Heck.. even Canada compensates for the lead Japan gives the PS3... you are acting as if the PS3 is selling 200K consoles a week in Japan... PS3 sells are better than the xbox 360 in Japan.. but are sad on anyone's standard... and about Europe... didn't they get a price drop? arent those people pissing in their pants after the 60GB SKU because Sony is removing B.C? The PS3 beat the xbox 360 by a few K... for 1 week... and you are already calling victory? The US numbers alone pushed back the PS3 chances of catching up by another 6 months...
what does x360 have besides Halo 3 ..nothing . You have noting except that BUT the 40gig is coming to NA and dont forget our mega weapons are yet to be unleashed --FF13,MGS4 and GT5 Rtachet and PES are more than enough to see ps3 outsell x360 10:1 in JAPAN next week and 2:1 in EUROPE next week AS ALWAYS
OMG, why do these people trust the NPD numbers???? They're so fake. Listen to SONY, it's the damn source of truth!
I really have no comment, I just thought it was funny that the first 3 people to respond all had 1 bubble. Tee Hee!
i'm starting to feel sorry for sony.it isn't doing well. i see why they need the price drop and no B/C. edit: for the person that disagreed with me. were am i wrong at. sony didn't drop the prices because it not selling.how many 40gig unit sold so far as aposed to the 60gig. sony is not desparate at this point to move console going into the holiday season. explain to me why you disagree or are you a coward that likes to hit the disagree botton.
when posters 1, 1.1 and 1.2 don't show up all because they have 1 bubble
does anyone think Sony is putting too much into Ratchet and Clank? I mean the PS3 has diversity for sure...but come on guys...grow up
i dont think sony is putting to much into R&C, its the fans that are.
Dont you think MS put too much into Halo3?
this artical is true the ps3 is increasing in sales world wide and will soon overtake the 360 and wii in sales. i mean come on think about it ratchet and clank was one of the most popular franchises on the ps2 and combined to sell 13 million copies on the ps2 and will be cruchle disciding factor in if people will buy a ps3 or a 360 and wii. but you also can't forget about haze and uncharted, these games are true representations of what the playstation 3 can do and are far b3yond anything the 360 can offer, and so is ratchet and clank. i mean just think about it!! all sony has to do is figuar out how to attract and cross over all there ps2 owners and sony already won the console war. it's as simple as that and sony have alot of mass market games like little big planet sing star buzz sly cooper jak and daxter ratchet and clank and god of war. we already have ratchet and clank which japan uk and u.s. love but all sony really has to do is release there back catolouge and it's game over. and remember the ps2 didn't sell well in the begining either buit sells increased little buy little over time and its become a world wide industry leading console, and the same will soon happen with playstaion 3
Just more spin from Sony and you guys eat it up. In September 2001, not even a year after the PS2 had been released in America unit sales were 19.57 million: http://vgchartz.com/worldco... Those sales figures are a lot better than just barely over 5 million that the PS3 currently sits at. Apparently the Wii and 360 are doing a better job of converting PS2 users.
Someone had to say it...
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps... Hmm... Something not adding up here? 19 million in America? That chart has a hard time demonstration that the PS2 had sold 19 million in the whole world after a year. A mistake by vgchartz perhaps? This also shows there is a somewhat valid comparison of the PS3 and PS2, although the PS3 is begining to lag behind, as you can see. So your point does have some validity to it. While were on the subject, let me mention that the original XBox had sold about 11.2 million in it's first two years (actually, these numbers are just under two years, it would probably be closer to 11.5 for the true two year sells). http://vgchartz.com/worldco... I've seen that number recently... It's all about the games folks. I'm not a stock holder, why do I care how many sale?
did not sell well in its first year? What are you talking about. All I remember was not being able to get a PS2 and people selling them initially for crazy amounts of money. Indeed the shortage hyped the product and helped to drive sales. It was this type shortage that M$ was accused of creating artificially when it launched the 360. Whatever way you cut it PS3 is in trouble. The US market is the largest and most important; it is a cohesive market where a lot units can be shipped. Cultural differences across the globe mean that different games are needed due to cultural differences. Sony wants and needs to own the US market like it did with the PS2 and that is not happening right now. Sony needs lower prices and AAA exclusive games>
ps3 is preparing for domination... all u fanboys are squirming hahaha. Imagine when it drop to 300$?? WOOOOWWWW Playstation Playstation PLAYSTATION.
Too much spin! And once MS and Nintendo weigh in, it'll be a freakin' hurricane! :) This must be what it's like to be a White House spokesman...
i'm much to lazy to click the show just see what the hell you are all saying. i wont even comment on this. the PS3 is improving in sales. and like i said i'm waiting for years end sales totally after january's sales should prove quite interesting. so this is all a mute point Halo 3 dominated sales with 3.3 million who didn't think it wouldn't happen. and increase system sales by maybe up sales by 200 thousand. expect. while people will ache aout the PS3 getting a price cut i'll play more games. i'm more interesting in whats happening for sony after the christmas holiday is over. and by the looks of it things may not settle down untill about summer 08.
159k in July : 131k in August : 119k in September yes a very impressive improvement... maybe they mean over last year when they sold ZERO durring this time. god, i swear too many people here "if sony says so it MUST be true" tards.
dont be mad that i express no interest in the 360. and what i said wasn't bashing it either. i'm just more looking forward to the holiday season for sony's Console because thats what i invested in. dont call me a tard because i dont share your views. ok, and you should try to have a good day because you sound has if you're upset and angry. Rubb yor earlobes and whisper WHOOSAAH!!! it'll do you wonders.. the nerve of these people.
some guy on that page said it perfect "How the hell is going from 159k in July down to 131k in August down to 119k in September maintaining "an overall increase in sales?" lies lies lies... but sony knows its dumb trolls will eat it up. oh and in july was the price drop... just like they are doing now... look how the numbers fell after... same thing will happen this time too. sony is just trying to tread water at this point with price cut after price cut, selling off parts of its company to pay for the massive amounts of money they are bleeding from it. yeah thats a real healthy business right there. keep looking through those rose colored glasses you nubs.
When they say increase in overall sales, they just mean that the overall sales total increased. So if they sold at least one console that is considered an increase in overall sales. By that standard I am sure the Gamecube saw an increase in overall sales during the month of Sept as well.
@bloody. You're bloody right. Bubbs for you. The way things are going with sony by end of 2008 ps3 should be around $150.
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if the comp has improved as well: · NPD reported that in the US, Xbox 360 was the #1 console for the month; outselling PS3 5:1 o Xbox 360 sales built upon its growth from last month, showing a 50 percent increase for the month of September selling an average of 105,600 consoles per week. Total sales were more than 528,000 Xbox 360 consoles sold, compared to 501,000 for Wii and 119,000 for PS3. o PS3 sales posted an average weekly decline of 27 percent. · Xbox 360 software revenue at retail outsold PS3’s software portfolio 8:1 and Wii’s 4:1, selling 3 times more than both platforms combined. o For the month of September according to NPD, Xbox 360 software represented 74 percent of total software sales for the next generation market compared to 17 percent for Wii and 9 percent for PS3. Even without the sales of “Halo 3” the Xbox 360 portfolio outsold the PS3 portfolio 2:1. · Additionally, Xbox 360 is home to the best-selling games with the top-rated next-generation titles. According to the world-wide authority in entertainment reviews, Metacritic, Xbox 360 has 80 titles with a Metacritic review score of 80 or higher compared to just 31 for PS3 and 11 for Wii. o Newly released title “The Orange Box” (Valve) and the highly anticipated title “Mass Effect” (Microsoft Game Studios) have both generated rankings of 97 and higher according to Metacritic. And not to forget “BioShock” (2KGames) which remains one of the year’s highest rated games. NOW..."Would you kindly," click the 'disagree' button to represent the Sony Fa6boys? ; D
b/c you just owned this thread of comments :-0 XBOX 360 software 3:1 over wii and PS3 combined... my god... if software companies don't develop "game A" for the 360, it would be because they do not like money... I can't see too many of those "un-mentionable games" not making their way over to the green X...
Is it me or does it seem that nasim, SonySoldier, and doomsonyman are a bit extreme/fanatic and probably belong to some sort of Sony Cult? Just curious....
no one can read you comments ROFL you fanboys
no one can read you comments ROFL you fanboys you obviously read them, that you answered back in response XD
Microsoft overstuffed Halo 3 with advertising and now consumers only see Halo 3 on XBOX 360 nothing else. Yes xbots still have Mass Effect, Ace Combat 6, and Project Gotham, but put yourself in an unknowing comsumers ( without an Xbox 360 ) shoes. " Hmmmm... I see Halo 3 on my drink ( Mountain Dew Game Fuel ) I see it in commercials ( Believe ), I see it in the news (everywhere) ohh and I see it being advertised online, Halo 3 must be good game I'm going to go buy it, and get an 360. Sure, yeah i'm going to buy the games coming out for this season for it too. But I'm not buying it for those games I'm buying it for Halo 3." Do you guys see what i'm saying Halo 3 sells systems this season no of the other games for th 360 is going to sell systems. Not Mass Effect, Not Project Gotham, nothing will. This is just my opinion but most of 360 fanbase already exist. All the sci-fi / shooter type fans already bought there 360. Think about it the 360 has no diversity in there library only sci-fi / shooter types ( Lost Planet, Gears of War, Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect and so on, and so on ). Again no need for bashing me it is just an opinion.
Read the comments of NPD's own Anita Frazier to see why what you say is probably not correct.
get off halo nuts
@DragunBallZ all the numbers you posted mean nothing because your numbers are backed up by an unreliable site with an unreliable console and games tracking system. can you support your statments with links? so people can actually see what your talking about. your whole argument is pure exagerational bised. i can make up numbers too but i don't because i value my credibility but obviously you don't because your whole post is filled with this hilarious bull crap. you say the 360 software revnue outsold the ps3's portfolio 9 to 1 ha a cold day in hell. the ps3 is the most innovative machine on the market and your just mad because they half assed the 360 out the door and now you have the RED RING OF DEATH in over 50% of your crap box 3 fix me's get a life you xbot fanboy the true power of the ps3 shall be realized this christmas and all over 2008
you say his numbers are unreliable... then you go say 50% RRoD for the 360 with NO source... yeah. pot... kettle... black... troll.
please dont use the word cult or fanatics/extremist in this forum. This is about games not about real life. Video games are just a past time for 99% of us. Those words carry more wieght then most of you kids understand. If u knew anything more then what the Sony price piont is on the new PS3 u might understand this.
you call yourself pimp! do you know how serious that word is and what it means? cuz it aint pretty, and should not be used as some kind of positive title.
a microcosm of a much larger worldwide ground battle that SNE is waging against the enemy MSFT on a global basis. You see, SNE thinks long term - a vertical view from 25,000 feet. MSFT thinks short bursts - horizontally at about 5 stories tall. SNE thinks *innovation, new technologies to reach the 'endgame' results even if it's a little expensive for our customers at first (it's worth it). MSFT thinks 'throw sh*t against the wall and see what sticks, even if that means copying SNE or raking our customers over the coals' to reach the end game (it's worth it). I'm so glad SNE is around. Think of only having to choose from Wii or the 3fixme. What a desolate thought.
@madden you don't really believe that s**t you are saying. lets be real here shaw we. Sony is throwing s**t to the wall and hoping it sticks.sony talks about all the features it has and still it hasn't convince costumer to buy it.you say MS is copying sony. get real dude. sony has copied everyone that has a pulse.MS started using HDD now sony uses HHD, ninty used motion. sony now uses motion.oh and for the people that say hey sony had motion before ninty. think again ninty had the power glove. sony copied second life and the sims online.botton in the middle of the controller MS did it.sony is even stealing features from XBL.sony is far from original
so sony isn't copying every thing every one else does? and they aren't just throwing crap againest the wall to see what sticks? then is that why they are trying to support blu ray,psp,ps2,ps3,entertainment center, computer system....ect some of which is all in the same device? Sony is no better then microsoft and your lofty view of them is a deception, they are in it to make money, and they are certainly not looking to the future.
Three price drops in 11 months is not an result of forward thinking. I call it keeping their heads above water. Kotaku has too many Sony fanboys. Your going to hear plenty of rubbish in the coming months. All this dancing PS3 going to make a comback lets wait untill after the hollidays to see how Sony's going to do. Just pray MSFT does not drop the the price another $50 in NOV or DEC. Its not like the 360 sales are going to drop before Xmas and the bundles are not going to decrease the sales of the 360. What Sony said doesn't even make any sense.
Instead it's the price reduction of three different SKUs...once each. Microsoft lowered the price on 3 SKUs as well, so what's the big deal? You should feel happy for the gamers that have to chance to purchase the console of their choice, regardless of price drops from Microsoft and Sony.
keeping there heads above water?? LMFAO thats the apidimy of what microsoft does every day. the RED RING OF DEATh, microsoft extends the warnty because there to cheap and afraid to fix the real problem "keeping there head above water" microsoft trys to steal sony exclusives aka mgs4 and final fantsy 13. in a pethetic attempt to decline ps3 sells "keeping there head above water". e3 2005 Microsoft's J Allard quoted in saying during the 360 creation "we just winged it togather and out came the 360" "keeping there head above water". so before you talk about another system look at your own and you just might see that what your talking about doesn't make proper sense. 360 loser
sony is trying to keep their heads above water. sony hasn't sold more than 360 sinced it launched. even then it still hasn't outsold 360.sony has sold their stock in their insurence company and now they are selling their pocessor factory just to stablize thier loses from the ps3. having 3 price drops in your first year isn't good at all.
Things that make you go Hmmm... Whats in your wallet!.
but do you all wanna talk about how much money they've lost in the video games market? close to a billion, and did you all know that ms paid more advertising for halo 3 then they made off the game, im sure they'll make a profit though in the next couple years. now im sure someone will point out how much sony has lost on the ps3, but to counter that, all ps2 sales are pure profit, wich almost makes up for it. and sony is doing a great job pushing there blu-ray, that will make them plenty more money. so when it comes to making money of this buisness, ms bows to sony. ill probly lose bubbles now, but im actualy stating nothing but facts
"and did you all know that ms paid more advertising for halo 3 then they made off the game" 10 million was put aside for Halo 3's media blitz. I think Halo 3 has made a lil more.
you know, i was going to rant, but i realized i really don't care about what fanboys have to say on either side. i think fanboys are funny and ignorant.
I mean, when it really comes down to it, how many 360's are being bought for the first time? Maybe 70%? I know that many 360 owner's buy new consoles when they RROD (I know this probably isn't pertinent anymore with the 3-yr warranty) and many probably grabbed the SE Halo console. So, when they count up total install base, how many of those are double-counts? Either way, the 360 is quite an appealing box right now, but I really don't know how well it will be doing in 1 to 1&1/2 years. Playstation just has that innate variety in games. Eye of Judgment, Singstar, Uncharted, Haze, Folklore, GT, Mercenaries, Virtua Fighter 5, Everyday Shooter, Home, Little Big Planet, continuing support for PS2, and a new slew of interconnectivity possibilities with PSP and PS3. Along with all the bad press (and the fact that places like Circuit City have RROD 360's on display, which is hilarious, by the way) and general lack of confidence in the console's longevity, I'm feeling that even with a new console launch in 2 years, they will have alienated too many people by doing so. By then, the PS3 will have hit an unstoppable stride (I believe) and most likely have surpassed the 360. I think that looking through all of the fanboy BS, and biased views on the console war, these next two years will be very interesting and the results maybe even more so. Will Microsoft permanently dethrone Sony? Or will they have to return to the PC world to recoup their losses in their gaming division? I believe they have made too much of an impact to just relegate themselves to PC's again, but 3rd place in gaming may be their best option in the years to come. Only time will tell.
You are right in that only time will tell. But if you are going to make predictions, at least base them on actual sales numbers instead of wishfull thinking. At this point, it's useless for 360 doubters to argue about the console's install base because, as these NPD figures prove, there are already enough 360s in the wild to support monster game sales even for exclusive titles. Numbers like these latest figures from the NPD will only encourage developers to keep pumping out games for the 360. And as the NPD analyst pointed out, more games beget more console sales which beget more games - a "healthy cycle" she called it. On the other hand, we still don't know how many units the PS3 has to sell to make it as attractive a platform to developers as the 360. The PS3 doesn't even have a third of the 360's attach rate. That means that even if there were three times as many PS3s as there are 360s, the PS3 would still not sell as many games as the 360.
Bubbles for you. Always nice to read a well written, intelligent post. An unbiased view, just well thought out. Some people here also fail to realise that there are other countries outside of the US of A, and that’s all NPD figures are showing, and that even if sales in one European country are 11k units, add that to the next European country, and the next etc. sales of the PS3 are doing OK over here. Hell, some countries here in Europe are barely the size of one US state, so of cause with all the states combined, sales look big for America. Some here need to take their blinkers off and look at the international scene, rather than act to the typical image most of the rest of the world have of Americans (poorly educated when it comes to world geography), that wouldn’t be able to tell you what the capital of Spain is, let alone point it out on the map, (I know not all Americans are like that, I have some good American friends that don’t fit that description). PS3 sales for this Holiday season will be respectable, and next year I can see things continuing to improve. 2008 is going to be an interesting year for both camps. Hopefully the number of fanboys will reduce and true gamers on N4G will talk sensibly like yourself about the current state of play and the future of their console of choice.
That Sony is running out of. Sony is lucky that Microsoft isn't really as interested in beating them anymore as much as they are in making their video games division profitable. If MS wanted to go for Sony's jugular, they could, with a $199 Core/Arcade, and $299 Premium $349 Elite Holiday Bundles. Me, I'd go for the jugular (even at a loss), but MS is more than content with how they are doing. The original Xbox couldn't get what? 20-25% market share last generation, and this generation the 360 is outselling the PS3 nearly 3:1. Hey, I love the competition; it really is what's best for us gamers, and I intend to pick up the $399 PS3. I know that "only time will tell," but what you fail to realize is that Sony's true tightrope isn't console sales, but its relationships with developers, and the clock is ticking. Sega, Capcom, Namco, etc. are not going to wait around to 'see how this goes' for much longer. Look at all of the losses Sony has endured this generation already, GTA, Devil May Cry, Resident Evil, and now Monster Hunter etc. Without enough of an install base to convince developers that the PS3 is financially worth developing for--- that is the real problem facing Sony, and why the $399 price is here. I wish them luck, and I can't wait to give HALO 3 a break to play Uncharted/Ratchet & Clank, but come on, you can't put on rose coloured glasses and pretend Sony isn't in the fight of a lifetime....
i'm a dude, and as a dude, i want the prettiest chick with a small fcking waste and a big chest meaning breasts. and im into cars also and if i had the money i want to have a nice car that looks pretty that can perform and not break down with me while i'm driving. i also want my car to be really fast also cause im a dude. as a dude the xbox 360 launched while i was enjoying my ps2 but the xbox 360 performs better in terms of immersiveness in games and the graphics were prettier. i bought the xbox 360 and loved it, but then 3 months in while on pgr3 my xbox 360 had RROD and i was pissed, i called microsoft about it and they wanted me to send them $140 to repair my system and the whole process would take 3 weeks they said. i loved my xbox 360 so i just bought another one and that one broke in about 5 months or so, i know it was before gears of war came out. i bought another xbox 360 and that one broke again. ps3 came out and i bought one and loved it, the games looks so pretty on my 71 inch tv . i didnt see as many games coming for the ps3 as the xbox 360. my chick bought me a xbox 360 which again cause shes a good girl from a good family. anyway, the new xbox 360 gives me disc error like all the time so i really dont like a system that is just unreliable and is doomed to fail. fcvk that. now i have 12 games for my ps3 and im looking forward to all the ps3's exclusives. closing arguments , fcvk xbox 360, ps3 is a realiable console with a lot of games i wanna play. if you love graphics like i do with no nlag online well ps3 is for you. i understand some people cant afford to have all the systems like i do and then make up their mind on which one they love the most but its pathetic how a lot of people are ""ignorant"&quo t; and hates ps3 or the wii or the xbox 360 and they havent experienced whats on the other side. i prefer my ps3 cause it has way more features , it outperforms the other systems in several diferent areas.
xbox 360 is just not as good as ps3 .
your so right.360 just isn't as good as ps3. it's better. how many times a month do MS have to kick ps3 @ss before you guy accept sony is in big trouble. you guys keep holding on that millions of people are waiting on sony.please think for a minute. sony drop the price three time and thier sale still hasn't done jack.sony won't see big sale until MGS4 and FFX come out until then it will play three place. not even R&C or haze or uncharted will raise sales. if anything i see those games saleing like HS and lair
You're a dork.
The PS3 price is EXACTLY THE SAME between US and Canada now! In your face America, our dollar is kicking some ass! lol
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