The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is reportedly assisting in the investigation into the intrusion that may have exposed millions of PSN users' personal data to unauthorized intruders.
well with this kind of help, hope they get the morons go did it.
I am know hacking expert but dont hackers have a way to send there IP address to 100's of locations around the world so they dont get tracked? Also I think the use a clean PC with no owner name or identification to do there dirty work. I have seen it in movies and dont know how true that is.
Exactly you been watching too many movies. Trust me, the FBI and Homeland Security have ways of tracking these losers down.
Who ever did this is gonna get SEEEEEEEEERVED!
Movies: The best to way find out how the world works.
Its just a way for them to have a little extra time before being caught. It isn't a sure fire way to avoid anything. Those false IP addresses will all link back to one address...and guess who lives there.
if it happened on the net, it can be tracked. Might take time but there's always a trail to follow.
This is why I hate 2-1 bubble children on N4G.
So your 3 bubbles makes you superior. Sad
Mate even if these scumbags are using proxying the resources the FBI and Home loan security have at there disposal will eliminate all the fake addresses these mummy boys have. Don't worry they will be too busy trying not to bend down to get the soap in the prison shower block soon enough.
What's with the disagree?. He is just asking a question people.
Then the FBI just go raid the place where the proxy server is located, look inside the server, and get the ip address of the person using the proxy server in the first place. Very simple. Very easy.
Well hackers arent dumb, they know exactly how all that stuff works and where they leave foot prints. When they did this, they felt secure. I bet it is very difficult to find them, but not impossible, i hope they will have success with finding them.
they got the most inept department in the government to help them
Simply due to your EXTREME poor use of grammar totally tells me... You know what, never mind. The FBI and Homeland have almost an inifite number of resources to track these fuckers down. oh... and it is "their dirty work" There = Place Their = Ownership They're = They are
hmm.. oh well - hope it was worth it dumbasses!
America fuck yeah!
FBI and Homeland Security... Wow, this is getting serious.
Yeah because 77 million credit cards & peoples identities being stolen isnt serious. /s LMFAO!
Out of 77 million, how many are active users? You don't even put in THAT much info into PSN. No social security number, just address and name/contact info. The same stuff you put in everything to sign up. Btw, 77 million accounts don't all have credit cards attached. I don't.
Stop tryin to do damage control for sony. Even they announced those figures. Their words not mine.
I had 2 accounts. With no credit cards attached. And even if they do have my PSN password, what the hell are they gonna do? Send me SPAM?
@NotSoSureAboutThat: First, appropriate name is appropriate. Second, Sony already verified that the credit card information was not touched and even if it was, it is encrypted data. Third, 77 million USER ACCOUNTS does not equate to 77 million individuals. I personally have three (North America, UK, and Hong Kong), and many other people do as well. Fourth, the only thing we know is that a person had access to this information. There was no proof on how much of it was stolen. But, 77 millions lines of database information doesn't just cut and paste over in a little bit of time. It takes a while. It's extremely unlikely that anyone was able to gather the full details, if they took it in the first place. Yes, Sony announced that someone had access to the 77 million user accounts and some of their personal information. But, they did not say that there was personal information on 77 individual users and they confirmed that the credit card information was secure and untouched. Please don't spread bad information, it does nothing good for anyone but the trolls.
Again, Sony's words not mine.
Aww isnt that cute? Emerge is having a troll conversation with his other account NotSoSureAboutThat lol Anyway back on topic, I hope those bastards who messed with PSN all get sent to jail!
@cgoodno Don't be so sure. My mother's PSN associated Amex had some fraudulent charges billed to her via Amazon in Washington today. We're in Toronto. Luckily the charges were blocked and the card cancelled, no harm done. However, it's a bad sign. There is always the chance of a random coincidence, but it's a very large coincidence. And unfortunately it doesn't look like her own Amazon account was compromised, so it appears the card number itself was. Amazon requires full billing address and security code on a new card. So it looks like, even if in a small number of cases, everything is compromised. There doesn't seem to be any way that I've found to provide this information directly to Sony to help in the investigation. We can only hope that American Express and Amazon were willing to do so on our behalf.
@koehler83: The Credit Card information was provided by Sony in their Q&A update. ============================ Q: Was my personal data encrypted? A: All of the data was protected, and access was restricted both physically and through the perimeter and security of the network. The entire credit card table was encrypted and we have no evidence that credit card data was taken. The personal data table, which is a separate data set, was not encrypted, but was, of course, behind a very sophisticated security system that was breached in a malicious attack. ============================ I find it unlikely that someone was able to decrypt the CC information. Possible? Yes. Probable? Far from.
@cgoodno You'll have to forgive me if I can't take Sony at their word right now.
***You'll have to forgive me if I can't take Sony at their word right now.*** Actually, right now, if they said it, it has to be true. No company would be dumb enough to falsify information in a public forum when they are about to be investigated for their level of security.
@cgoodno They've already published false information by saying they've never asked for credit card security codes, which they do.
...Are you bored?
***They've already published false information by saying they've never asked for credit card security codes, which they do.*** One upper management guy misspeaking is far from a publication of false information. An idiot mistake, but not the same. Official information should be garnered from Official PS Blog posts, not from head guys talking randomly. Those are the publications in question.
Now they just need Chuck Norris to be complete. Edit:You can bet you're self he's gonna be mad cuz they messed with his Socom 4 online.Hacker's will try to drive away but not if Chuck has something to say about it.
I thought the Chuck Norris fad died years ago.
actually its still alive and kicking...LMAO @Dart89 awesome comment that made me laugh
I thought the 666 fad died awhile back also...
How dare you!!
Bruce Lee > Chuck Norris.
HA. HA. Good one. You got me!
Patriot Act to the...rescue?
yea...I have a bad feeling about this. They might help catch the hackers, but there will be some sort of catch, or future cost. Not worth it imo. Everyone is too focused on "revenge" to see that there might be consequences for the average consumer down the road from overzealous retaliations. Hope you guys like biometric DRM!
waits for hitler rant.
Homeland Security! LMFAO. They're are just a shoddy, pathetic department which was created to supposedly disrupt terrorist activities in the country. I don't see why they are involved. Sony is a Japanese company, the attackers are probably located in Asia or Russia. It has nothing to do with US soil. Our tax dollars are being wasted again! It's time we tell Washington to back the f#&k off of situations which they don't need their noses in. It's costing taxpayers billions every year!
Depends, what if the hackers are Americans?
It's highly doubtful. 99% of major attacks come from Asia or Eastern Europe
@ElementX: Your ignorance on Homeland Security aside, they employ some of the government's best cybersecurity analysts and engineers. These "wasted" government employees develop systems that prevent cyber attacks against the government and businesses alike and aid in analyzing cyber attacks against companies from outside of the company.
My tax dollars shouldn't be used to find people attacking a corporation. If they're not attacking national security data, then my country shouldn't be using my tax dollars!
So, you're saying Sony doesn't pay taxes as well and therefore does not deserve the aid of the government from "outside attackers"?
@element x always with negative comments every single time you comment its just crap coming out of your mouth
You are lucky there isn't a button for "Stupid".
...Wow. That's all I have to say about this.
Except that alot of Americans are users of PSN. Cyber terrorist/thieves are Cyber terrorist/thieves. Its in the best interest of feds or any other government to go after them. Do you even think before you type?.
HAHAHA! WIN! SAY SOMETHING NOW ANON!
Get 'em Homeland Security!
Off topic, but people on here have awful grammar. Learn your "their, there and they're" uses. Know and no, etc. OT: I really do hope that the hackers are caught.
God damn it man!! we are Gamers not English Teachers!
Speech is a communication tool to be used by man, NOT the other way around. As long as people can understand one another's morphemic intentions then the manner in which this is done should be irrelevant(for the most part). OT: Did i get too drunk last nite and wake up in 06-07? Whats with all these Sony is doomed articles? Hopefully Homeland Security can help solve this major issue so we can get back to online gaming and reading flamebait/sales/rumor articles on n4g -_-
The people that did this have no idea what they were doing, at least the scope of it. You hacked the info of 77 million people and you dont stop and think that maybe the higher authorities you come looking for you...really?
Calling Homeland Security "higher authorities" has the same ring as calling Ruby Tuesday's "fine dining"
The best part is if we find out it is some 12 yr old and all they get is Juvi.
i dont need any more proves this is a trade war, with the US government involved up to the eyeballs.
I said a week or so ago...it's only a matter of time before the authorities get involved in this. These guys are going to hurt.
I said it before I have the feeling somebody is going to get arrested.
thanks Mr. Obvious!
I love how the trolls are always all over these article getting angry because they are getting disagrees and pretending that they are not trolling. And despite the claims that they are victims of 'Sony fanboys' you almost never see them on articles with positive Sony news or Sony game reviews with high scores. Back on topic. If they find the guys that did this, no mercy. This isn't like Geohot with loopholes and excuses. BTW for all the people who keep saying the same stupid things over and over again Sony did not sa the hackers stole 77 million accounts. They said someone accessed them. They never claimed they took everything or how much they got. If you don't know what your talking about, just be quiet.
Hackers are in trouble now. Its an act of terrorism for getting someones personal info etc.. cause they can use the info to make ids, cc to take money and fund it towards terrorism etc.. etc.. But in fact these hackers just gave the government reasons to make new laws and come down hard real hard on people on the internet. Good job dumbass hackers. FBI, Homeland Security... oh my. The prison time and fines will be harsh but well deserved.
Whoever did this won't be able to remain hidden for much longer. Doesn't matter how he covered his track, the fact that you're on internet mean you can be found no matter how well you hide. Same goes for Anonymous, they think they are hidden, but I assume the FBI and Homeland security could easily track them all down. There is no such thing as true anonymity on the internet, since you leave a trace of your presence no matter how hard you think you're hidding.
when FBI & CIA jump in, then shit gets real. Those pathetic hackers are now in fear!
go white hats! get those bloody black hats >:)