"We still have so much which we want to do with the franchise."
"TGL caught up with SOCOM: Special Force’s Game Director Seth Luisi to talk about all things SOCOM, Move implementation, MAG influences, DLC and NGP."
Please don't Mag was mediocre, so is new Socom. In before fanboys hit disagree but, you know it's true. They should hire good animation artist, and someone writer. Since guys move horrible in Socom, and single player story is generic joke.
"Director Seth Luisi" - when I see this guys name, I cringe. He was also "director" on Socom:Confrontation.
Socom4 is mediocre? maybe we're playing different games o_O i've been having a blast with it since it released, and i have yet to check out the co-op and the MP fully. just been unlocking weapon mods which has kept me very busy. getting ready for co-op with my bro. hard with high enemy density. this will finally take the place of the Rainbow Six Vegas co-op that i loved so much. terrorist hunt FTW!
You and me and quite some others enjoy this game a hell of a lot. And yet, we both will get a shit load of disagrees. I am wondering why. I am enjoying this game quite a bit. Custom campaigns more than anything. I think I am ready to go beyond medium and "normal density". Only thing is, weapons level off at 5 and it's too easy to get there. Makes me replay with different loadouts just to max every single weapon, though.
i have to agree with you and im a long time socom vet . the game is not like other socoms but it is damn good. it takes a while to adjust and on easy through campaign you can run through like rambo but crank the difficulty up and oh boy what a difference. thats when it starts to feel like socom of old. you have to be careful with every move and plan you attacks. if zipper make a few changes like pull camera add lean peak bring back dot reticule and old maps with old game modes this will be the best socom yet. a very good game .
LOL. See what I mean. Already started. @above. I found the first time custom missions quite challenging. I had to re-learn where to send my swat. Now its more like a walk in the park. Can be boring for some, I imagine. Because the secret is not getting into a firefight yourself but keep your swat alive by making the right strategic decision. If this is not Socom, than what is.
hey if either one of you guys ever wanna play some co-op on there, my PSN name is joydestroy but i agree with you both. i'm really hoping they bring some more co-op maps, MP maps and weapons as DLC. i'd gladly cough up the dough for it
yea ill play with ya if your on but i have to say its hard to drag me away from my clan TNS and confrontation which i think is more like the original socom on line. hacked to bits but still damn good. but i do like socom 4 as well so i will be playing so add me Hippiez2007. both ju and joy oh and am more competitive rather than co op but ill give it a try
It's not Socom. SOMAG4. You obviously haven't played a Socom game prior to SOMAG 4 - hell even after all the patches, extra content (Cold Front) Confrontation still had/HAS that SOCOM feel. And no, we're long over due for a TRUE R6 game. Terrorist Hunt ftw indeed!
Socom 4 isn't Socom as we all came to know and love so well. Usually the people who post in the forums talking about how great this game is, have never played Socom 1, Socom 2, Socom 3, or Socom: Combined Assault. Socom 4 sucks, and theres a reason why the game has a 66/100 Meta Score. http://www.metacritic.com/g...
Where are the Navy Seals? That's the first question I asked myself after the first 5 minutes of SOCOM 4, what a let down... Zipper just destroyed SOCOM
I agree this isnt socom at all. I know people want a “new” Socom but the old Socom is what we all loved. now it's mainstream and totally sucks i want the original Socom.
I disagree. This is Socom.
You want the original? Go play the original.
If the graphics were up to par and the servers were not filled with cheating pieces of shit I am sure many of us would. I have played Socom 2 by far longer than any other game that I have ever purchased.
"If the graphics were up to par" Up to par to what? Uncharted2? Because that's where they are. Seriously. Go and take a closer look.
Talking about the old socoms...if the graphics were as crisp as this and confrontation
I kind of liked MAG,would prefer they concentrated on moving it forward instead of working on frankenstein.
The beta felt like a cross between COD and Gears of war, it was odd. I would much rather play something like Gears or Uncharted if I want third person action game.
What's taking them so long to do with SOCOM, what they want to do with it? How much more do they want to add that they keep not adding in the first place. Socom hasn't been good since parts 1 and 2. Sorry... trust me.. Socom is what made me start playing online gaming. But boy has Socom sucked since part 3. And ya... to those of you saying the game isn't mediocre, and that you might be playing a different game.... maybe you guys are. Because the Socom 4 that I was in the beta for and played, sucked! Like the metacritic score shows of a 66. http://www.metacritic.com/g...
I am interested in the NGP as well. IT appears as if the NDA's will be lifted only after E3. Trinigy had some sample demos and images of their own but, Sony probably reminded them it wasn't time, so they took it down almost immediately after it landed on sites like kotaku.
I know all the haters are out in full force but they have my support. I hope they can take the criticism and continue on with the SOCOM franchise.
As much as I like the SOCOM series, I'd pick a CoD title over SOCOM on NGP.
I loved Socom Fireteams on the PSP. I would love Socom on the NGP. Would be awesome.
How about make MAG 2 and not fuck it up with every Patch you release?
I would really enjoy to see what new game IPs Zipper could make for the NGP. So I hope they do make games for the NGP.
Heres an idea to Zipper and company...especially that asshat Luisi. If you want to do something with this franchise make it SOCOM. Not all this frankenstein bs you have been shoveling on us. Confrontation had to be patched in order to attempt to feel like socom, and as bad as it was it was a closer feel to it than this release is.
Maybe you can patch socom into this Special Forces game, but between the still awful camera view, the horrible team control (which actually worked very well on the ps2 yet had to be changed for reasons I can't fathom) and the selling out of this once great franchise in order to capture some cheap sales which will taper off and again not allow to enhance the community.
If you really want to do something for this franchise make a Socom 2 HD remake bit for bit, get rid of the glitches/codes and you could sign me and half the socom forum up to DC Universe monthly plans. We dont want change, we want SOCOM......
Stop trying to appease to all and get back to the roots, which is what the community wants and has wanted since October 2005 when Luisi started spouting out about what the "fans" wanted.
socom 4 is actually pretty damn good.. the multiplayer is addicting and i can see myself playing it for a very long time.. single player isnt half that bad either when you play it on hard or elite. its a challenge for sure. I havent tried coop yet but heard its fun as hell. zipper just needs to fix the camera and add some old school features back into the online play. i love the maps in this game too.. rush hour is the shit. this game is far better than black ops and modern warfare 2. shows how the gaming media sucks ass. socom 4 is one of the worse rated games out there on the ps3 but i find it to be one of the best shooters out there in a long time. if you havent played it does this look bad to you?? http://youtu.be/LJZL6kfl2Cw
The coop is a decent time, I would have really liked to be able to play thru the games single player with a buddy online. I hate the single player teammates with a passion. That is one thing that has stayed with this franchise, except this game all cpu controlled teammates are idiots who get stuck and run in front of you while you are shooting.
If they move the camera back further like what we all said in the beta it will improve the game a bunch for me. It wont get rid of all the bs cover that plagues the online, but it will help to get over the slow feeling when trying to turn in CQB's.
I do like the new maps for the most part, I am hoping that they can recycle some from the confrontation remakes and put them to use for us. I cant wait to try abandoned when it comes for dlc.
dunham was talking about bringing back demo or breach. he pretty much confirmed one of those modes will be coming. I think they will bring back some old maps too. they made abandoned so you know they have more. yea that would be cool to play the single player with a friend. its always funner. single player isnt the greatest but i am enjoying it. psn needs to get back up.. i need to play some classic bomb squad.. we also get a patch once the psn comes back up.. fixes the camera some more, adds dot into crosshairs, party systems and other stuff.
demo was always a good time, and with as big as some of these maps are I couldnt imagine how hectic a game of breach would be. put boards up all over the ship into the factory doors. we could make up some good sniper/no cross games, shottys/pistols only then.
Would still like to see some sort of lobby to return. not being able to have the rooms in the lobby for people to pick from makes some of that stuff very unlikely to ever occur again though.
Not really into socom or mag. But its great that they are going to make something for the NGP
Was greatly dissapointed with this game. Hopefully Zipper strays as far away as possible with the blueprints of this one. I honestly didn't feel like it was a Socom game at all.
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