Gamersmint: The PSN security breach has hurt a lot of people, from Sony to the game developers and to a large extent, the whole industry as a whole. With more than a week since the service was taken offline, things have been really hard on everyone.
free ps+ to all
I could see all PSN users getting 3 months or a years subscription free tbh...
Could be a good marketing ploy.
Maybe a week or two, but a year? I doubt it. Wouldn't be surprised if they gave us a theme and maybe a new avatar lol.
No way, PS+ members may get 3 months free, but everyone else, a dynamic theme or at least a PSN game, no more than that :P
@paintsville. Keep on copy and pasting your FUD in every story. It's really helpful. So far Sony believe CC details were not stolen, but they have confirmed they were encrypted. Also people's credit rating won't be ruined even if they are a victim of CC fraud. Almost every credit card company has a responsibility to the customer to protect them from fraud. When someone somehow got hold of my credit card details and tried to use them - I had a call from my card holder, who stopped the illegal transaction before it hit the card, they then cancelled the card and I had a new one sent out within 5 working days. Wow! What a hassle!! /s The concerning thing is the personal data stolen - and for that Sony should get a huge slap by every nation that has data privacy laws (if it turns out Sony were negligent in their security). But most sensible people will use different passwords for all their accounts (LastPass is awesome for this). The worst case I can see is an increase in Spam and mail / email / telephone scams. not great, but not the end of the world. Unfortunately identity theft is going to become more common, and companies like Sony are going to be targets - the whole GeoHotz case just made them a bigger target. The only system not hackable is one not connected to a network. Finally - it's not 75million people, it's 75million accounts. I'm not saying the real number is trivial (probably around 25-30million) - but you're spreading FUD
Sorry, this was actually supposed to say PSN + dunno why the "+" didn't register :s
"Trolling"? Considering Paintsville has had a copy-paste parade of this comment ( http://n4g.com/user/comment... ) and he has changed all of his stuff into anti-PS3 crap, I do believe this should have been marked as SPAM. As for compensation, Sony better give us some free PSN online access after this :)
Sony owes us nothing technically. But it would definitely give them a great PR boost and go a long way to ease people. Who cares about the trolls though, they don't deserve to even have access to PSN.
Sony owes us nothing? I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in thinking they need to either credit subscribers or extend their subscriptions for the time they haven't had access to the various services they pay for. The extent of the damage caused by our information not being secure is another matter all together. -Death
he didnt say anything about compensation other the restoring psn like that was some kind of compensation.
@Death: Oh really? PSN+ subscribers pay for access to PSN? That's news to me. I thought PSN+ was a content service that granted exclusive early access to demos, full game trials, betas, and other such content. Am I mistaken? No? Thought so. The FACT remains that any and all content that PSN+ subscribers would have had access to within the time span will still be there for them to access, and they haven't lost any money due to it. PSN+ does not grant any special access to PSN that we all don't already have. And if you're one of those people who have chosen to see and hear what you want about this issue, then you weren't privy to the knowledge that all sensitive CC information on PSN servers was encrypted and Sony merely took a step towards caution in notifying people. In truth, there is no evidence to support that anyone's CC information was actually stolen, so if that is something you're going to try and tout and hold over Sony's head as a method to be correct in demanding compensation for the loss of nothing but time, I suggest you try harder because it's a venue that will not help you at all. If you're speaking of things such as addresses, phone numbers, and the like; well my friend those are a matter of public record, easily discovered by anyone at any time through the use of Google. So once again, using actual proof, facts, and logic... Sony owes us nothing. And I challenge you to come up with an actual loss you have suffered other than time that is worthy of the demand of compensation.
WOW a good sales man would start high and come down from there. You never start low and expect to get more... HAHA!! Sure, PS+ is a stretch but it sounds good doesn't it? Or would you rather a stupid theme? Come on, everyone needs to think big and go along with it. If you're doubtful, keep a lesser amount in the back of your head and you won't have such a shock when all you get is a avatar T-shirt that says, "PSN went down for a few weeks and all I got was this lousy shirt". :)
LOL I don't even want free PS+, cos the service is nothing special
"...or any other form of compensation to PSN users as a result of this unavoidable but unfortunate PSN security breach, which has resulted in it being taken offline.” Oh really Sony? How in anyway is a security breech ever something that is considered unavoidable? If thats the mentality you have towards security then that might be a good sign of where things went wrong. I say this with slight disdain as I just covered my mates bar tab after his account (that he used for his PSN purchases) was locked for suspicious activity. We have no true proof since it could be coincidence. One hell of a coincidence. In the words of Sterling Archer, Phrasing Sony... Phrasing.
@DragonKnight Proof, fact and logic? Using my DCUO subscription as an example, I pay $15 month or $.50 a day to play. If PSN is down I can't sign in to the service which is required to play. 10 days have now gone by which is 1/3 of a month or $5.00 That I along with many others have paid and could not play. This is probably the most simple example to point out, but others exist. I'm pretty confident Sony will address DCUO subscribers so the issue isn't that big, but to say Sony owes nothing is absolutely baseless when you apply it to all users. -Death
because then it would just screw over all the PS+ users who purchased it already.
It would because they would just get more time added on.
Exactly. Even more time added wouldn't do me much good, as I would have renewed my PS+ anyway, so Sony would still be getting my money.. just later rather than now. Another problem with dealing with PS+ subscribers - we already get free games with our subscription. So IF Sony goes the route of giving up a free game, how do we know Sony wasn't going to give it to us as a PS+ deal anyway? I think the best thing Sony can do, as I mentioned below.. is give all PSN users a free $10-$15 PSN title of their choice and give PS+ users a free $40 full game title of their choice that we can currently get a 1-hour trial of. That would be fair.
sounds more like u saw a game u didnt have the money for lets be fair a 40 dollar game for all several million ps + users is unrealistic. as well ass 10 -15 dollars for regular users i think some new features would be nice for everybody
@smashman98 I buy between 20 and 30 games a year. Not having $40 for a game has never been an issue for me.
@BLAKHOODe sorry man that doesnt make sense. i get a free months rent/free mortgage payment/car payment etc...but I dont want it because I would already pay it at some point down the road? Add an extension to the time we missed, give us a discount on some games, or allow us the choice of which free items we would like as a part of the plan rather than have them select it. Now would be a good time for sony's pr to start allowing the community to be a little more active and vocal about what we would like with that service. perhaps a way to include the video store into the mix would be a huge deal.
You're dreaming if you think you're going to get something free out of this.they aren't going to give away 70 million PS+ accounts just to appease a week of downtime for a free service.
I agree, this article didn't really sound like they they are planning on reimbursing PSN users, and honestly I don't think they should (the service is free). You know I would rather Sony continue to provide PSN for free, instead of trying to go the route Microsoft.
PS+ is not free
Yeah no way that's gonna happen. Maybe a free $5 3 year old game or a dynamic theme, nothing more.
i think they need to let every one get either a dynamic theme or avatar...maybe a ps1 game but a 10-15 dollar game no i dont think that would b smart but to b honest i dont see a point for people who are not subscribe to anything to get something free...im not on ps+ i just buy from store and play online i dont really care to get anything but if i do...thanks sony if not thanks for gettin psn back up sony
probably a free game and or $20 psn card tops.
Wow you guys are crazy, I'm sorry but PSN is a free service, how can you expect to be compensated for something you don't pay for... (Did you forget PSN Online is FREE) for PS+ members ok I understand, but everyone else come on' Seriously... Seriously? What exactly do you want compensation for, not being able to access the FREE Network - to play for FREE Online.. That's like saying if Google Servers go down, Google needs to give me something for the time I was unable to search for stuff -(for FREE... Free being the key word) ____........___...____ .____||......||.......____|| ||.........___||.......____||
Bubs.. I agree with you. PS+ members will most likely get their time back that they lost, which wouldn't be much. And all these people keep freaking out asking for hand outs from a company that just got dealt a huge blow.. they didn't even get back on their feet yet. On top of that, some people are bugging out about how long it's taking them.. i see a lot of naivety.. they're rebuilding the network, this isn't rocket science people.. it will take some time to get back up. Cool your jets!
I love how he wrote "things have been really hard on everyone." like it was some sort of world tragedy.
id be happy with a demo of TwisTed MeTal....and a release date for the NGP
Disregard this post, the N4G reply system is terribly broken sometimes.
Sony just bring back the online,still will love ya. just like i love rayne,chloe, and that hooker i like to beat up so much in GTA vice city
oh they will be giving out something, but it really is a gesture of goodwill since the PSN is free. the fucker who's behind this should have both his hands chopped off after he is caught to ensure nothing like this happens again.
If they give anything free it'll be like a ps store game.. a smart choice would be a free copy of infamous since infamous2 will start recieving attention soon :D .. I however don't personally want anything but i understand some people do, so if they did that's my 2 cents on what they should do.
I would like cross game as I already have plus. Good to see Sony taking notice about loyal customers though.
get on your os device with skype or even yahoo.
If Sony gives us cross game chat, would be super awesome. Maybe a redesign of psn?
i think u mean a redesign of xmb, which isnt even necessary
Why? That would waste even more time.
no they probably already been working on that before this happen and if ngp is anything to go by theres going to be something a bit different about the xmb of the ps3 anyways
@DarkBlood You have a 360.. go play that.
ok im serious..i think cross game chat would b ok but why is people makin such a big deal about it....if i can remember right all u do is talk to people who are playin other games if that is all i see nothing special...if i am wrong and there is more please let me no
Sony's going to provide some kind of goodies to PSN users aswell as introduce new features to PSN. I mean, even after such a long period of outage if they fail to do that, there are bound to be questions, but it's nice to know that they've confirmed that they're aware that customers have suffered due to this. Props to them.
Free Motorstorm 3 copy with voucher code with 50 bucks
its not worth it. less then 40 races to complete the campaign and the apacolyse in it is rather half hearted
Not much of a response. Unless they tell us something definite, anything they say will be full of vagaries, and crushed hopes. It's not like Sony would respond "No, you can't have anything, GTF Off my lawn!"
well... lets cross those proverbial fingers and HOPE sony comes through in a BIG WAY. I'm not talking about XGC, or XMB redesign. Im talking of course about the network infastructure. I mean, we all know it works. Its free. But has anyone taken into account the time and energy it takes to run ALL THOSE SERVERS? Considering Japan JUST had one of the worst natural disasters in recorded history, my preference in gaming has to be minimal. My thoughts are with those affected by the earthquake and subsequent tsunami. So I wish for very little when it comes to the PSN. I whole heartily feel sympathy for those who DID incur financial problems from these hackers. But lets be real, is your situtation worse than others due to a lack of "service"? One would hope your life isnt that broken... LONG LIVE THE GAMER! I AM JOHN CONNOR and YOU...ARE...THE...RESISTANCE!
I think it's a bit too early to be asking that question of Sony tbh and perhaps naive to be expecting a definitive answer at this point. I say this because Sony is going to be purely focused on fixing the problem that allowed this to happen and getting PSN back on line, not thinking about how they are going to compensate people. I agree that they should do something, absolutely....I just think it's a bit naive to be expecting them to be teling us what that might be at this point in time.
Agreed. This is the biggest data breach in history I believe. Compensation should be waaaaay down the list of things to do for Sony. And to those people screaming for compensation... Just shows how much they care about their stolen data. They seem more concerned about getting something for nothing, and getting back on a compromised network than worrying about what data may be in criminal hands or Sony ensuring they improve security!!
Free 3 month of ps+ , cross-game-chat and a re-designed xmb would be great.
Let's hope this is true.
Don't give me anything Sony. It's alright. Instead, let us gamers unite and rally behind Sony and support them in catching these bastards! Like the guy said in a Cnet article, he has had his stuff hacked three times this year on other networks alone. Get used to it everybody. The future is here and it's filled with assholes. Sitting around saying, "It shouldn't have happened. It shouldn't have happened," won't help. It did happen and will continue to happen in the age of the internet. Most people just want free stuff out of this. Your "Gimme, Gimme" attitude isn't helping. You probably don't even have a card registered. On a side note, I called Visa yesterday and they advised me to cancel my card. I asked the guy if they were busy becasue of this. he was like, Dude!!! We're swamped!
@tapioca-READ COMMENT ABOVE BUBBLE UP dude. i say GET EM Sony! LONG LIVE THE GAMER!
SONY doesn't have to give us anything but I bet you my bottom dollar they will.
if they somehow (longshot) do implement cross chat its has to be for evryone
if they give free stuff for this outage, awesome! if not,then im ok as long as PSN's online and more secure.
honestly, i dont want anything from sony. just get the psn back up and more secured and il be happy. see, everyone here is hating on sony that their private info was stolen by hackers. what everyone including the media fail to see is that sony didnt do anything wrong. the HACKERS who broke in should be getting all the hate and they should be the ones compensating you for the stolen money that some people may have suffered. its like you lock your house and go for supper, come back home and you had a break in. who do you blame that your possessions are now stolen? yourself for not putting enough locks on the doors? not putting enough burglar bars on the windows? or do you blame the damn thief that broke in and stole everything? honestly, it would be a different story if sony sold your private info to other companies and are now apologizing for it. heres a preventative measure for all of you who shop online with credit cards, make a seperate bank account just for online. transfer the amount needed into that account. if anything like this were to happen again, the only money you lose is like the $100 in your online account. i dont know why you people arent smart snough to do this from the start to be honest.
OR! you could do like i did and go buy a "pre paid debit card". You put how much you "plan" on spending and there won't be nothing for the hackers to steal if its a debit (paid in-mind you) card with little to no funds. LONG LIVE THE GAMER!
that works too :) bubbles up buddy
or even better buy the psn cards they sell to be honest u would b stupid to use CC online on a system anyways...and after this problem ignorant if u put ur info back online
PSN users maybe a month trial of PSN+ and existing PSN+ Subscribers an extra month added on to there subscription and extra free game on top of the what ever they offer in the next update.
Don't give me anything sony. The only gamers that need to get something are they mmo subscribers and perhaps ps+.
I don't like the idea of giving everybody free PS+.. it lessens the value of those who have actually paid for it, like myself. What I think Sony should do is give ALL PSN users a free PSN title of their choice that would normally cost about $10 to $15. And give PS+ subscribers a choice of one of the FULL game downloads we currently get one-hour trials of. Those games usually run about $40, I think. Free dynamic themes and avatars for everyone, as well. DC Universe Online players should get 3 months free.
I'd be fine with a credit to my PS+ and DC Universe subscriptions for however many days the PSN is down. I guess some kind of free game for all PSN users would be ok, but I don't understand this "gimme stuff," mentality. Bad shit happens, and we should be compensated for our lost money, but still. Self entitlement is like a plague amongst people nowadays. On an unrelated note, I do remember when my internet was shitty for a month or so, I contacted AT&T to fix the problem. I didn't ask for anything in return, but a week after they repaired my service (I was paying for high speed internet, but was getting the equivalent of their low speed internet), I got a check from them for $100 reimbursing me. I thought it was pretty awesome(an extra hundred bucks is always nice), but I didn't expect it, or demand it. There's a way to get compensated without raging at the company until they do it. Maybe it's because of my years of working in customer service that I have a soft spot for the people that take our complaint calls. They tend to bear the brunt of our rage, even if they aren't the parties responsible for our issue. I generally try and be polite and calm when dealing with them, and only get irritated when they are feeding me BS, or not solving my problem (especially when it's a seemingly simple issue).
"I generally try and be polite and calm when dealing with them" ~ That's because you are a mature person that deals with things accordingly and rationally...whereas the same cannot be said for those making grandiose, misinformed & biased opinions (that they claim to be fact) all over N4G and many other places (gaming media especially). Just before the outage I re-upped my PS+ to get the 15 month special again and in all honesty I do not require compensation for it. Why some might ask? That's because I know what is there and what I don't have will be there when it is back up so I am in reality not owed anything as I am not "missing" anything. When it is fixed I can get whatever I may be missing (which is actually nothing). As far as the PSN in general being down, it's a free service of which that costs me nothing so I don't exactly expect compensation. BUT if Sony offered something I would greatly appreciate it and think it was very big of them to offer something when they/we were the victims of this situation. Something they don't have to do. I do not expect anything. I do not require anything. I just want the PSN and the PS3 back working perfectly and giving me the enjoyment it has given me for the past 5 or so years (15+ for the PS brand in general).
Yeah, I didn't get a chance to take advantage of that 15 month deal, because the network went down. I planned on doing it over the weekend, after I balanced my budget to make sure I could actually swing the extra $50 on game stuff (I already got 4 new games over the past week, despite my attempts to slow down game purchases for the year. lol. it feels good to have a new job that pays well, that's for sure. lol). I'm also of the camp that doesn't feel terribly put out by the PSN being down. I guess it's because I'm a primarily single player gamer. The only real irritant is that I just got LBP2 on Saturday, and it would have been awesome to play some of the user generated levels with my wife. As it stands, we're still having a great time with the single player levels. I'd also love to upload my two inFAMOUS 2 Beta levels, so maybe they can be put on the disc. Thankfully, Sucker Punch already confirmed that they are extending the beta, and they'll let us know for how long once the PSN is back up. Overall, this just sours me on supporting hackers for ANY reason in the future. I was never their biggest supporter, but neither was I a detractor. I'm all for doing what you want with your property, but this is so far beyond that it's ridiculous. This isn't about homebrew, or anything small like this. This was a premeditated criminal act against Sony and all of it's PSN subscribers. I hope they get fucking nailed to the wall when they are caught.
Not trying to seem bad mins but Sony is not gonna give out free games to PS+ uses its not something you have to do to use the PS3 online PS+ is an option / choice. If they was gonna give anything it would be a Free Blu Ray like they did with Casino Royale007 and maybe a free avatars and themes and maybe a Major Over hole of the PSN in the New Update and some free stuff in PS Home.