Gamersmint writes: Valve’s upcoming release, Portal 2 is the first game to require an mandatory install of PS3 Firmware 3.60, which was released back in March. This means that you won’t be able to play the game on any earlier installed firmware.
This is great. Sony needs to make every upcoming game uses this. If these pathetic hackers never tried to hack the system. Sony wouldn't have to do things like this.
That's good news. Sorry hackers.
If you go by the usual "homebrew" sites, you see all those cry babies cursing Valve and Sony for this. Its like they have a right to play these games on their hacked systems. I know they will find a way but its just sad that people take this software piracy issue so lightly.
Poor babies...I feel bad for them. Wait no I don't. Want to hack? Dont update who cares, its your choice. Wanna play online and enjoy Steam? Update. End of story.
Been on 3.60 since it came out so no big deal for me.
And I don't think it has anything to do with hacking, really. Here's what it does: - Allows PlayStation Plus subscribers to store up to 150 MB or 1000 game save data files online, whichever comes first. This includes 'copy-prohibited game data'. Such data is restorable once every 24 hours. - Now allows a choice of 10, 20, or 30 minute power save feature for automatically turning off controller. - Changed Friends List sorting.
"Changed Friends List sorting"? what exactly did it change/do?
I supposed you'll have to press 'triangle' on your friends list for the mini menu to pop up and see.
It now sorts your friends by capitilised first letter then by small first letter, kinda messed up the alphabetical order it used to be.
oh i see, thanks rank
No problem man :).
Hacking can also be used for good things, u know...
why does have a tag for 360?
Didn't PSP use this method in a lot of games? You had to upgrade to the latest firmwire, which was on the game disc some times, didn't you? Pfft, with 25GB or 50GB available, more should use this method. EDIT: Wait....is the FW on the disc? If not, that's a load of BS for gamers without an internet connection.
You can still download the update from any computer and transfer to your PS3.
Prevent hackers from playing new games: check!
@Holy: The update will be on the disc. I think that's how it's always been if it requires the update..
@NathanExplosion "Hasn't this update been out for a while already? And I don't think it has anything to do with hacking, really." 3.60 also included the final bit of security fixes to completely implement a white-list for pre-3.60 security software and games. Between 3.56 and 3.60 Sony changed the encryption, decryption, and signature keys to be able to black-list the compromised keys and kill the "Jailbreak" CFWs. This is why hackers haven't upgraded beyond 3.55 and keep trying to spoof their way onto the PSN. This is also why they would be mad at Sony and Valve for this Steam restriction.
This probably has less to do with the hackers than it has to do with Sony integrating steam directly into PS3's firmware. A sign of things to come.
Hmm very good point. Anyway... yay, only a few days till Portal 2!
Yes! Two more days and my copy is already paid in full. The two for one deal is awesome, too, as I'll be playing on my PS3 at home and on my Mac on the go. Valve rocks so hard.
Yes its good news but they already did this before anything happened. New firmwares use newer things that may have been including in the firmware to help devs. An example would be Sony making XMB use less ram so developers have more play with for games. My point is that eventually pirates will left with no future game support even they get the 3.60 npdrm keys. So they will left with all that amazing home brew and linux support they ask for. While we all play amazing new ps3 exclusives.
Warprincess are you 10 years old? And why is a game needing 3.60 mandatory update news? I guess N4g turned to N4p.. News for Pirates.
N4G-news for gamers. So that means this is the kind of news "gamers" want.
I'm ready... cant wait till tuesday!
I hope those filthy pirates can never make a custom firmware for this one, so that Sony doesn't need to release another security fw update and we can all live happily evert after. Also, Warprincess, bubbles for you!
Good, keep the scurvy pirates away from this gem.
Don't wanna play games legitimately? Suffer the consequences. Why should hackers/pirates get the same privileges as everyone else.
very very true!bubs for you sir.
"A" mandatory, not "an".
I do love installing firmwares before I play a game. It's something I look forward to. When I play a game on my ps3 that I haven't played for a while I always look forward to the inevitable patching and waiting that applies. It's a true joy. Thank you Sony.
love ur sarcasm LOL
I love how people complain about having to wait for a patch of a game that they haven't played in six months. Thank you stupid people.
Then get plus
Well get Playstation+ then , means that everything will be downloaded automatically and you won't have to wait , problem solved.
When me & my friend wanted to play Uncharted 2 for the first time on his PS3 Sony rewarded us with more than 2 hours of quality time, downloading and installing patches. @dragon82 - Updates on the 360 rarely take more than 30 seconds. Why can't they be the same on the PS3?
The only ones who will complain about this are teh PS3 hackers/pirates out there.
Just wait a few days, someone will make a workaround by this time next week.
Sad but true. Look at PSP same difference. Its a speed bump not a blockade. Hackers will be playing Portal 2. Its unfortunate that there is nothing Sony can do to stop piracy. And for every Geohot that says sony is big evil company that wants more money... its smaller devs that will end up losing in the end and get shut down.
That's great. The bulk of the update will probably be security bullshit the hackers will just bypass anyways. Hopefully the update is released before the game.
ummmm.... its been out since march?
I foresee a 3.6 custom firmware on the horizon. Seeing as most new games from this point on will require 3.6. Old methods don't work for patching the eboot or param.sfo for titles that require 3.6 because the eboot is signed with 3.6 keys which havent been made public yet.
Well the reason it requires the new firmware is most likely because of steamworks.. adding new features old firmware don't have is the best way to prevent regular people with old hacked machines to mess with people not looking for cheating/piracy.
I went to Best Buy today and didn't see any Guy Fawkes masked-wearing hackers. It's the closest place I have to resembling a Sony store in my area. Winning.
Why is everyone happy about this? What if someone doesn't have online for their PS3, I didn't have online for my system until late 2008. It doesn't say whether the game will have the firmware update on the disc for those without online, but if not wouldn't this mean that everyone who doesn't use online couldn't play it?
Some sites have said that the 3.60 update is on the disc.
I haven't seen those articles, but I'll take your word for it. If so this is a great idea.
If I recall when new PSP games required certsin firmwares, they were on the Umd. Everyone should be fine.
I think it is a very safe bet to assume it would be.
The updates are on the disc. They have been doing that for a while for people who don't have internet access. PSP have been doing it for years as well.
Dude, think about the site you're saying this on. This is a place where a guy who says "kill that fuck" gets a "well said" tag and gets a million bubbles. The forums are the only place on this site you're ever going to get any REAL, INTELLIGENT conversation, regardless of side, about that issue on this site. The main site is just full of fanboys that have been, for the longest time, sacrificed their sanity (and maturity) for their mother ship (Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo). You're NEVER going to actually get ANY mature conversation about jailbreaking, homebrew, firmwares, or anything likewise on this main site.
Off topic but related to your comment: I gave you a well said. It's a strange system that gives people way too much power to destroy others ability to relate on topics of interest. I lost a bubble because of a girl that was making inane comments and I couldn't take it anymore. She made it personal. LOL. I think it needs to be overhauled but that's just me.
you're saying like you can't update your PS3 offline! updates are available on Sony's site and you can always update your PS3 via USB stick. come on...this is not PC-like DRM where you need to be online to play games! it just requires your PS3 to be on 3.60 online or offline.
Hate to say it, but if he hasn't got online, how is he supposed to go onto Sony's site to download the update? Luckily, it's pretty much definite that the update will be on the disc.
err...he's here on N4G! most probably from a pc somewhere. although accessible via mobile, probability for it that he was here via a pc is higher!
im for anything to stop pirates but please dont let this become like the pc where you get punished for purchasing games
you should just have your PS3 at 3.60 and you're good to go! it's not required for you to be online all the time!
Every game should be like this from now on
Dear hackers/pirates, LOOSSSEERRRRSS! LMAO
lol hacker well find a new way
I agree, but it will be about a month at least so, while they spend their spring break researching how to get Portal 2 working, I will be enjoying playing it :D. Nice move Sony / Valve
and CFW is nowhere to be seen, which is good news! I hope this stays for a bit longer!
That has been a real surpize. I has been a while, yet no 3.60 CFW. Perhaps they have been bested, and thats why ANON went all out for Hotz. They where desperate.
Eat this Anonymous!
patches galore updates galore gametime over .
for real? It takes 30 seconds to patch any game that isnt Mag or GT5. not a joke. Grow up. even the System updates take 10 mins max, and thats like once ever what, 3 or more months? Wonder why you only have 2 bubbles?
He is an Xboxer, actually defended an earlier comment too. That was fanboyish comment there.
I'm ok with this. I have no problem with people wanting to run custom firmware on the hardware they bought. Run as many SNES and Genesis/Mega Drive emulators as you want to. But as soon as you install custom firmware then you have no right to expect Sony to support you with new games. If you want to stay a part of the ecosystem then buy a new, unmodified box. You can't have it both ways.