Gamers have been waiting years for Nintendo to finally release its Wii successor, and Game Informer has heard from multiple sources that the company will unveil it at E3 this summer if not sooner.
Wonder what sorta power will be under the hood of this thing.
I wonder if there going to use motion control or standard controllers.
Probably not much, as Nintendo's focus is more on gameplay, rather than graphics and physics etc. I expect something in between the Wii and the PS3 in terms of power, but I could be wrong. I would like Nintendo to release a console that will rival the PS4 and the Xbox 3, in terms of hardware and features.
I just had to laugh at the comment of being in between the Wii and a PS3. That is a pretty safe bet there. I can't recall Nintendo every releasing a console that did not surpass the previous one. But I could be wrong.
"Probably not much, as Nintendo's focus is more on gameplay, rather than graphics and physics etc." lol more like they are taking the CHEAPEST path with the biggest profit margin from the get go! tbh, I can't see it changing anytime soon.
Its Gonna Have The Power Similiar To Xbox 360 Then Xbox 480 & PS4 Will Release & Then Straight Away Its Going To Be Obsolete
Initial reports are saying it will be more powerful than either 360 and PS3.
Be relatively easy and not particularly expensive to create a machine 3 or 4 times more powerful then PS3 and 360. Even cramming in something like a radeon 5750 class GPU would provide considerable more performance for little cost- assuming nintendo compete @ 720p. Of course, that would not actually compete with a cutting edge successor to PS3 and 360 in 18 months, if you expect them to use a high end GPU of the time, and deliver native 1080p games. This strategy would give nintendo the most powerful machine, but it would only be a matter of time before it were overtaken by far faster sony and microsoft hardware. In that time however, people may be tempted to jump to a new nintendo machine to get better versions of multiformat games- similarly to how dreamcast arrived early. Dreamcast was fairly eye catching because it vastly outpowered Playstation games of the time. It failed however- mainly because people knew that PS2 was just around the corner and they waited... Just imagine for example, a new nintendo platform getting a version of Battlefield 3 far closer to the full fat PC one than the cut down console one on PS3 and 360. That would draw the eye of a fair few early adopters, one could imagine.
well it should be more powerfull than the current that should be normal, but then sony or microsoft will release another one more powerfull, rinse and repeat.
Wii is hardly more powerful than a 10 years old PS2... Just saying.
If Nintendo announces a new console this summer for 2012, expect MS to follow. Sony, I'm not sure. They have been talking about their ten year plan and that the PS3 is just hitting it's "stride". They are also likely to recouped their cost to start a new cycle, but they might be forced to because PS3 sells because it is considered top of the line technology as a console, but it wont' be that anymore with Wii HD.
MS wont bite. Kinect is too successful, there isn't a need. All MS would need is support Kinect with killer software. I don't think investors would be happy with MS putting out a new system. Maybe we'll see Nintendo in 2012, MS in 2013 and Sony in 2014.
@RememberThe357 Kinect could be used in xbox 720 you know? is not like its attached or anything. And they could make the 720 backward compatible, not saying that it would happend in this E3 but the next one for sure.
Why wouldn't investors be happy? The division might not be posting numbers like the rest of MS' OS business, but it surely is very profitable. In fact the Xbox division is the most profitable within their Entertainment and Device Division. The only costly factor was RROD, but that was an act of poor management from executives, not a factor of the business model. That said, Xbox is now a huge brand name something it wasn't previously. Investment into a successful business is just a smart decision. Investors would be very happy! Kinect can still co-exist with Xbox 720. Make it full backwards compatible with the Xbox 360. Heck release a higher spec Kinect that is also backwards compatible after a few more years. Problem solved....
Even if it is more powerful it's likely going to be catered to casuals yet again so it's hard to me to get excited about. I understand many people like that sort of thing but I'm not one of them.
i don't think they're going to get away with that [all casual gaming] again because things are changing in gaming,gamers want more complexity and the tech in the system will be better to do more complex activites. the games will cost more too so they'll want the most from a game than ever before.
Maybe you're right but I don't know. I mean look how well the Wii sold. You think Nintendo would just toss all that out the window? When you think Nintendo you think Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong etc. You don't think hardcore games like on PS3/360. The only Nintendo systems I ever really cared for were the NES, SNES, and only a few games on N64... everything else never really interested me but I can understand how it appeals to many others. Well there is always the possibility that it's able to handle 3rd party multiplats that are also on 360/PS3 at least. BTW it says late 2012 release so that is a ways off.
"When you think Nintendo you think Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong etc. You don't think hardcore games like on PS3/360." Not trying to be an ass here but i seem to have missed the memo about these titles. When was it decided that these were casual games? If these are casual games, then Ratchet & Clank, Jak and Daxter & Sly Cooper must be casual too. You seem to imply that anything with colourful worlds and cartoon characters are casual titles which really only leaves Shooters as "hardcore".
when i think of Nintendo, i think of perfection in game design and iconic game franchises...you can think whatever the hell you want. Nintendo FTW! :)
Actually, I think this time it will cater to both hardcore and casuals. The reason Wii didn't cater to hardcore is simply because of lack of online gaming and graphics. Once those two issues are fixed, the software will come. Question is, will they shot themselves in the foot again by doing Friend Codes? That is Nintendo's biggest challenge, building a gaming network. They got everything else covered!
i think Nintendo has to change tactics this time, sure they're are known for the casual market but it can't carry them like it did with Wii this next time,they'll have to be a bit more creative this time. i believe maturity in gaming is returning (although it's hard to see it now) and Nintendo don't want to be caught not being able to keep up tech wise like they were with Wii and just higher definition won't cut it either i.m.o.
i'm guessing just slighlty more [or on par] with current systems [PS3 / 360] power like how Wii was with Xbox1 / PS2. Nintendo seem to think less is better tech wise but who knows,maybe they're thinking bigger this time?
Maybe this time, Ninty will give us a console based Pokemon?
lol thats the first thing that comes to your mind? Pokemon?
many people are asking for a real pokemon game on consoles since ..Ages ...
no thanks,i'll stick to my ps3 :)
I wonder if it will upres current gen Wii games to HD resolutions, kinda like the Dolphin emulator on PC now. It's hard to deny that Mario and Zelda look GREAT when they were in 1080p, even if they textures weren't native.
Hmm...Should be interesting...
I don't think it would be a good move. If they release a console with power comparable to the PS3 it will be great and all, but Sony and Microsoft will launch their respective consoles two or three years later, and Nintendo will again be behind. If all they do is release a Wii HD then I don't see the point. I gladly take more polygon counts than HD anytime. Although I must admit I am dying to see a Zelda game with Uncharted 2 graphics.
It's supposedly "significantly" MORE powerful than PS3/360 according to IGN.
M$ and sony will follow nintendo real fast so they do not lose some consumers or keep this gen because now the 3 companies are even in terms of hardware. @PS360PCROCKS If they go above what the PS3 can do then it MIGHT hold it back or get M$ and sony to launch there new consoles. @Xer0Signal LOL @jumper09 I agree completely @2EHO The wii is as powerful as the xbox 1 or slightly more powerful. The conduit and conduit 2 anyone?
It's funny because i just posted a thread on another site about this. everyone was like you are crazy no way nintendo launches a console with graphics better than PS3. the thing you guys have to understand is the Wii still has legs in the casual market. i know many families that dont have a wii that want one.When nintendo drops the wii price to 100-150 sales are going to go through the roof. so the wii and wii2(which wont be the name) will be able to live side by side.
Hmm...interesting...would be funny if they came out with something really next gen making the xbox/ps3 look really bad in comparison. Because let's face it when we have cellphones that display console like graphics, the tech has obviously evolved. edit:: wanna add though this could be a mistake on nintendo's part if they go above what the other consoles can do...Because if it's "significantly" more powerful the xbox/ps3 will hold it back in terms of 3rd party games. Oh well, the 1st party would look amazing though.
Nintendo isnt about gameplay or graphics. Nintendo is about making money by producing a device with cheap hardware and by selling it for a profit. Its a strategy that they used with the Wii, DS and 3DS. Which is why Nintendo is one of the most sucessful companys on the market. Nintendo futher makes money by producing a ton of first party games on the console and does it cheaply by not developing new IPs. Now i am not saying they make bad games their games are fantastic. Its just that they dont spend much money on their consoles or developing new IPS (developing new IPS costs more that making games based on old ones)
Given the lack of games announced for Wii this and next year, I think this is very believable. The best thing about it if it is true, would be that Sony and Microsoft will be for sure pulling what they have up their sleeves out. I highly doubt Nintendo will allow it's consoles to fade off into the sunset and try to live by the 3DS. I am sure this will push core machines out.
A BIG thanks to Nintendo. Because of this new console, the next gen can officially begin. Not much longer for the PS4 now.
Nintendo: "hey we have this new console that's a technical powerhouse!" Community: "very nice! that's definitely a start. now, what games will you have on it?" Nintendo: "Mario. Zelda. Donkey Kong. Kirby. Smash Bros. Metroid." Community: "oh...well, that's definitely cool, and all, but, anything new? like, anything post-1999?" Nintendo: "YOU BET YOUR ASS! HD graphics, son! and if you're lucky, Starfox HD!"
I am greatly amused at everyone who is excited for the next generation of consoles. There's still plenty of life left in this generation, but then again my console is future-proof.
It's a new console. What's not to be excited about? I would greatly welcome a super duper HD 60/120 fps God of War 4.
lol there is nothing left. Consoles cant handle newest PC Graphics (frostbite 2, new uNreal Engine). There is a need for new Consoles next year or early 2013
bah,graphics this and that,what's wrong with current graphics on consoles? really,what is so totally wrong? buy a PC if ya want that,consoles are fine for now,they can even last a few more years. look at games like World of Warcraft on PC,no one gripes about that game with outdated graphics,because gameplay matters > over graphics.
we also have to take this as a grain of salt. i remember when the Wii was about to launch a developer said it was an Xbox1 on steroids... how that work out?????
Worked out pretty well considering how fantastic Mario Galaxy 1&2 look. It strikes me as odd that when the PS3 loses in multiplatform comparisons, it's exclusives (which are amazing) that count, but when it comes to Wii, people only look at the third party shit on it. Just saying.
I can't wait to see the specs
hard for me to believe mario galaxy 1&2 couldn't have been done on gamecube. no game yet on wii has lived up to its specs
No game on any console lives up to their specs. Also Mario galaxy couldn't be done on gamecube otherwise they would have done it. Mario Galaxy uses minimal motion controls to maximise the potential of the wii and it shows.
I believe Nintendo is taking quite a risk releasing a new Handheld and Console so soon and so close together. I am interested in seeing what it is, but I don't believe it will force Microsoft or Sony's hand. For me the new Nintendo console will have to have a paid, good online service. No more friends codes. Also it needs to have full 3rd party support. So games like GTA, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Fallout ect.. can be played on it. Give us a new controller and package in motion controls just for the Wii games, but it should probably support Wii titles and new Wii titles as well. The only problem is, Nintendo risks there current spot at number 1, they pretty much have to start all over....Not many are going to want to buy a Wii knowing the next console is on the way.
I do not believe you will ever see Nintendo bend as far as to allow Mass Effect, Fallout or GTA type games on their consoles. It just simply is not who and what Nintendo are.
Really? Have you played House of the Dead on Wii? You play that then tell me who they really are.
Do you not remember all the Resident Evil games on the Gamecube? RE4, RE0 and they actually had quite a few M titles. Nintendo is just perceived by people as being "Kiddie" if they truly want to compete and gain a larger "Core" audience then they need to allow those types of games.
It's not really releasing close together, it's pretty much releasing a little less than 2 years after the 3DS release. edit: and it probably won't even be a worldwide release, so america and europe will probably get it even later exceeding 2 years.
if nintendo releases the wii2 too early, it will be surpassed by the next ps and xbox.
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