As reports come in that the average price of videogames rose last year, Den of Geek wonders, are we being asked to pay too much?
YES, Dynasty Warriors 7 is £45 here in Game yet I saw quite a few people buying it....
Buy an icecream: 1 Dollar. Lasts = 2 minutes A great game: 60 dollars. Lasts: a couple of months if you buy a good one. So no, i think the price is ok
I havent been able to find a good ice cream for no less than $3.
Are you sure what you ate was icecream for $1?
While I agree with what you are saying, this gen very few games last a couple of months. Even rpg's dont (with the exception of Bethesda's rpgs). Look at Dragon's Age series, it lasts about 40 hours tops with all the side quests (on hard for me). The mass effect series is even shorter. I beat MA2 in 30 hours by doing all the side quests on the hardest game mode. Lets not even talk about action/adventure games which usually have a 15 hour storyline and then they are done (ex: GOW, Castlevania, etc). The only games this gen which can last a long time are shooters, but even that is subjective to the amount of support the developers give. So what i'm trying to say is that the price of video games is going up, and their value for the money is going down (4-5 hours SP campaign anyone?)
@ Aarix: Are you high?
depends, I'd love to pay 60 bucks for a game, unfortunately prices in euros are 1/3 higher for games
" A great game: 60 dollars. Lasts: a couple of months if you buy a good one. " And it lasts less than four hours if you don't. Average that up and you won't find a common VG price of $60 to be worth it. And of course the pre-order discount prices, $10 to $20 credits/giftcards, free DL side-games or other content (and other stuff Amazon, Toys R Us, Best Buy, and Walmart use to sell games at launch) also suggest that $60 is not an ideal starting price. The huge used market, retailer customer reward programs,and the way they typically drop by at least $20 within three months tells us that the $60 value is a silly fiction believed only by the impatient and early adopters (and then only very selectively). Publishers certainly know better.
to me i think it should depend on what type the game is, an rpg should cost more then a fighting game, if you know what i mean.
"Are we paying too much for videogames?" no. in fact we are paying LESS than the 8bits and 16bitts era. ..and im not even talking about inflation....
Surely those people would be using trade in credit though because you won't get many people paying that for games unless they are potential GOTY
here in new zealand i had a laugh at the local eb games store, there was an american father and son in the store, the son looked at his dad and said "well i guess we are going to have to get used to the crazy game prices here in new zealand!" yes we pay far too much, i recommended they shop elsewhere, eb games are ridiculously overpriced, shop elsewhere and you can pick up a new game cheaper then eb sells the same game second hand.
£40 UK = about $84 New Zealand dollars (web converter). If games are more than $84 over there then it is costing more than here (UK). Don't know how much games are in NZ though. At the moment £40 (UK) = $65.54 (US)
Brand new games in NZ are about $100-120 NZD And add to that either PSN+ or XBL, and Online Passes if buying preowned (which is $20NZD), and the multitude of DLC content varying from $10 upwards.
yes, definitely. too much money.
Cost of the typical 45-90 minute long Nintendo game in the late 1980s: $40. Cost of a 10+ hour console game today (20+ years later), often with limitless online play: $60. And PC games are usually $40-50. I'd say we are just fine in most cases. Sure, some games that are $60 shouldn't be, e.g. Bulletstorm, but c'mon. The entertainment value per dollar dwarfs anything else out there. This is just for the US. I know in other countries stuff can be real pricey (Australia comes to mind).
As an Aussie, I can safely say yes. Having to pay over $100 for a game is ridiculous.
Not to be disrespectful, but from what I've seen everything else in Australia is way overpriced also. Someone needs to cut you guys some slack.
That would be their own governments, though, not the video game developers/publishers.
what game did you pay $100 for? I paid $80 for Strider...but that was the very first 8MB cartridge on the Sega Genesis. I can't imagine paying $100 for a 50¢ PC-DVD unless it's Half Life 3.
$100 Australian = £64.31 UK,(used web converter) which is a lot as I can get new games for £39.99 at most.
Only idiots or gaming noobs buy the games for full 100 dollar price instore. The cheapest stores usually sell around 79. 89 at most for a full new game. Either way, I just import most of my games from England. Its worth waiting a week or 2 if you're getting the game at half price.
@kingdavid, I also shop around for games to get them cheaper. I do see a lot of people in the game shops in town here paying £45 and upto £50 for some games when I could go to a big supermarket and get the same game for £10 to £15 less. There are still a lot of people who use game shops and pay full price. Its like they have more money than sense. You do right by importing for cheaper. I would do the same. I find that by waiting a few weeks or a month or so, I can normally find a game I want for around half the price. Thats the good thing about supermarkets here, always competing for customers.
£64 per game is expensive, more than 50% on top of uk prices. How much does fuel cost per liter in Australia?
Fuel has gone up quite a bit recently. 1.30-1.40 on average these days but its mainly petrol companies taking advantage. 10 years ago it used to be 70-80 AUD cents per litre.
I live in Belgium and a new game costs anywhere between €55 and €69(in the official gamestores), that's 80-100 USD/£48.5-£61 UK. One liter of Diesel sells at roughly 2 USD/£1.23 UK... BTW, since I got my ps3 in 2008, you can't rent videogames anymore in Belgium. I used to rent a lot of games at the local gamestore or video rentals, now I have to rely on ever more biased reviews to decide which games are worth that much money.
You can't rent games? has it been made illegal? In the UK games are around £40 and diesel is £1.43 now and seems to go up every day.
Thats bad, not been able to rent games anymore. Is it not allowed, or is there just no game rental shops? There is only one rental shop near me, Blockbusters, but that isn't doing great and may end up closing soon.
Depends on the country you live in. 60 US dollars isn't bad at all.
yes I pay ~80 US dollars for brand new game
No. We're paying too less in my opinion.
I'm guessing that was sarcasm?
No I'm quite serious. For those working in the industry (including myself) - they know how much effort and work is required to get a game out - and in my opinion the price should go up - if the quality warrants it. But it depends on where you live. I'd definitely pay more for GoW3 than - lets say...Viva Pinata or something.
Honestly, I understand what you're saying and I agree to a certain extent. I don't really think we're paying too less, and quite honestly $50-60USD is about right in my opinion. Some of these developers put ALOT of work into these games, countless sleepless nights, and constant work. When a game comes out and I'm highly, highly looking forward to it and I know I'll spend alot of time on it, I have no problem paying $60 for it, or maybe more for a collectors edition (if it's worth it)
I don't think the answer is an increase in cost since all but a fraction of what you would be paying would actually go to developers rather into the pockets of those who are already well paid for even producing some really bad games. I believe the answer is that those who do the work should get paid more. But, this is a market built on capitalism, not on paying people a percentage of profits for the money they put into a piece of work.
Sure another idea is to increase pay - there are different ways of looking at it. It's easy to say: WTF? Increase the price? Are you crazy? But consider this (and I'm speaking out of experience): There is a lot of hard work involved into making a product - whether it ends up bad or good. In some extreme cases it can directly affect the lives of these developers - but that's a side of the story that your average gamer will never think or hear about. Even DLC nowadays which sometimes feel overpriced - you have to consider the following: It's not as simple as putting a level designer behind an editor for a couple of days and release the outcome as DLC - and just stick a price behind it. It goes through Approval, Design, Marketing, EXTENSIVE Testing...that all is happening while people back on the net are whining about what's taking so long? The same for patches. Not to mention developing and releasing a game - seeing it through to the end - going through crunch time - working night shifts, working weekends, etc, etc. Developing games has become so expensive these days - and it's a LOT of work. Sure I think I agree that 60 is a good price - but that's currently the threshold where gamers start to discuss whether its already too expensive - and I clearly say: No. Not at all. And then we look at a collectors edition - and we the price might be 80 or 100 - and still (depending on the extra value that it contains) - I would say that's fair. It really depends on the way you look at it though. Taxes play a role, the financial crisis plays a role, a lot of factors.
My only issue is that downlodable games are being charged at the same price as games on disks. Why? There is no shipping costs, printing of manuals, or physical media. This should be passed on to consumers.
I agree Moondiver just came out and its $15, im not saying its not a great game but I have a local video game store that sells Batman Arkham asylum and other AAA games for that price.
True. However if they lowered the price to remove those added specifics then that would possibly take away from the phyical medium sales of the game. Who would purchase a $60 game from a store when you could DL the full game for $45 from the online store? In the future, if no physical copy is created I could see it launch straight at a better price point. However, I don't see that happening till next gen when production costs will go up and we may see the games selling as high as $60 anyway depending on the publisher.
I would pick a $60 physical copy over a $40 digital only copy anyday. You could sell it You could collect it You could lend it to a friend You could take it with you You could display it There is just much more value in a physical copy and I would have zero problems paying more for it as opposed to a digital only copy. Why would they care if DL takes away from physical sales. They get more money, they don't have to worry about a used sale, and there are almost no point of sale costs associated.
But also consider the fact that for downloadable games there are many other costs involved that don't factor in for retail. Server bandwidth and maintenance to name one - and the digital copy of the game is mainly identical to the retail version - so the work that was put into that is identically the same.
Guys some great points mentioned. I rather physical media as I like having a collection to display. Removing manuals and disks all together seems to be no immediate benefit to us, unless the value is passed on. I would psy more for disks though. Cheaper downloadable games would be good for people who can't afford several games at at a time. I see this happening more so in next gen
I am fine with the price as long as it will not get higher. When it does...USED GAMES HERE I COME!
There is only one correct answer: Yes.
I can say we pay to much in denmark, 25% taxes, nearly 100 dollars.
Games should be £29.99 new, with budget titles £19.99 and possibly cheaper titles £9.99
And Steelbook special editions with bonus digital content should be £40. Basically, drop it all by around £10 from the price it is now and the Pre owned market will shrink.
It's a hard question to answer, some games are definitely worth the price tag. Most games however are not! DLC however is most definitely over priced and downloadable games being the same price as their boxed counterparts is just ridiculous.
It depends on if the game is being sold as a whole or if it is being sold impartial and DLC makes up the rest. So for some games $60 US dollars it understandable, but games such as Call of duty and even Guitar Hero have an unfinished game that i cant justify the price for.
Yup, very seldom is it that games are truly worth 60 USD. Many of them are worth 40 tbh with a very select that could be worth 50. Inflation isn't helping either....
here in croatia one game 550 kunas (some are cheaper-450 kunas yakuza 4) that is about 100$. average pay check is around 700$. so it is waaay to expensive here. btw it's stupid for me that 100 hours long RPG cost the same as 8 hours long god of war 3
Yes. And it causes the used game market to continue to increase as well as piracy. Console games need to do what steam does for PC. High initial price, then lower the price significantly and have sales.
Most PC Games do not have huge advertisement budgets plus they have NO Licensing Fees so therefore they are $10 to $20 cheaper than console games. Lately many multi-plats have been released on the PC at a $60 price and they have sold poorly and have been pirated poorly as well. NO PC Gamer wants a console Port (or will pay for crap that doesn't utilize the PC). $60 dollar PC specific games like Starcraft, WOW Cataclysm and others have sold very well because they utilize the PC features and they appeal to PC gamers plus they are quality titles. Therefore on the PC the prices are determined by the Gamers. Steam always has a sale so you can find something good dirt cheap. Only $60 games from AAA Quality PC Devs will sale other well but the price will drop in two weeks anyway. Other than that most titles are $40 and they sale very well and that's a good price. $60 console port on PC.....We are not buying that and publishers know this so stop doing that. $60 better have AAA PC quality.
Agreed the only $60 game I'm buying this year is my already pre-ordered copy of BF3 on PC!!
You forgot The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim :)
steam is a gaming haven hack, i brought left4dead for $6 and orange box for $20 even games like mass effect is $30~40, it's so much better, and you don't need to worry about scratched disks or storaging, it's all digital, i love it...
You forgot the most important thing. I dont need to lift my lazy ass off my chair to go to a shop, thats what I love :-)
lol, this is too unhealty for me... i mostly do play sessions of 30~60 minutes... but, yeah not needing to get out of the house to get a game is very awesome...
depends on the game. some games are worth the 60 right off the bat such as halo reach, infamous, god of war 3, gta iv ,etc. however some other games are DEFINITELY not worth 60 off the bat such as ODST, Haze, Splatterhouse, Left 4 dead 1+2, Resistance 1 +2. all these games i have listed i either have or had....so i know.
Games ARE less than £30. If you buy the PC version. Almost every big-release has a lower price on the superior system, i.e., the PC. Look at Dead Space 2. PS3 and 360 prices were just under £40, PC version was just under £30 if I remember right. Either way, if those figures are wrong, PC is always cheaper. Are games getting too expensive? No. Are CONSOLE versions getting too expensive? Yes. Console gaming is catching up to PC gaming, so retailers are exploiting that. Whatever sells well can have the price upped. And they buy the console versions for more than the PC versions, so they naturally up the prices in stores to compensate. Cheaper and better gaming can be found on PCs, but nobody wants to shell out £700+ on a PC these days, when they can spend £100-200 on a console. And what IS expensive these days? We complain about fuel prices, but when you actually think about all the processes involved; find an oil source, ship out to it, drill it, collect it, ship it away again, process it, transport it to a country, transport it to the fuel stations and stick it in a flame-proof tank and sell it to the customer at less than £1.50 a litre (about $8 a gallon, so quiet about US fuel prices). And people buy BOTTLES OF WATER FOR MORE THAN THAT!!!! Petrol is bloody cheap people!!! So when you think about the money put into a game being developed, which is only increasing because of gamer demands for better graphics etc, £40 for a console game? It's quite reasonable actually. However, Activision can go get stuffed if they think I'm shelling out more than £50 for a new CoD, which isnt even new as it's the same engine, gameplay, corridors etc. THAT disgusts me. I'd rather buy LBP 2 and give money to developers that are actually unique.
not counting the incomplete games that they try to sell as finished... MvC3 anyone? there are content inside the disk that you don't have acess until you pay for the unlock price, this is ridiculous...
Depends on the game.
can't remember the last time I payed full price for a game. I don't trade, I buy online or wait till the prices have been chopped off... I got Mirror's Edge today for €9.99...
Good deal, Mirror's Edge doesn't have many hours you can put into it.
In Spain games are 70€...that's why I import them from UK for about 35-40€ (for new releases), so yes, they are way overpriced.
i would say yes. games are a a bit overpriced seems like every game tht comes out needs a DLC too come along with the 60 doller game. why dont devs just make the game AND the DLC put it on one disc so no one has to pay 60+15+10+5 just for DLC like Call Of Duty $15 fuck that shit time to game share.
Yes, and the fact that New games in the UK costs between £40-£50 ($65-$81) is ridiculous, since New games are always $60 in the US.
Guys Games in the past have been way more expensive than all these games now. Mario 64 on N64 was $70 dollars. StarFox 64 was $70 dollars!!! and the game was just 3 hours long with no saves; plus a limited multiplayer that suck. Mission Impossible for N64 was $80 dollars with a low review score, 6.0? Worst of all Superman 64 was $70 dollars and that is the WORST GAME OF ALL TIME!!!!!
That really has nothing to do with what the suitable price should be now. Those games were all cartridges with a higher production cost and risk associated with being stuck with inventory. They were not not files stored on a cheap disc, CD, DVD, Blu-ray or whatever. Many technology items have substantially dropped in price over time as they become heavily commoditized. Monetary policy driven price inflation(where the dollar loses purchasing power as lending becomes easier) rarely works uniformly on everything, especially things with a fairly short industrial life-cycle and low durability.
Yes & No!! I just Pre Ordered the witcher 2 & Portal 2 for $45 each!! That's $90 buying on console would be $120 so I save $30 yay! 4 me!! The new Red Faction is $50 But not sure If want it..