OXM UK: "A Call of Duty: Black Ops weapons pack isn't "possible" due to "technological limitations", according to community manager Josh Olin."
"But that's not possible - it's a technological limitation. Even if we gave them away for free, not everyone would download the pack" they could make it a patch so everybody who wants to play online needs to download it. your argument is invalid treyarch.
You busted Treyarch
I was coming up with the exact same point. Do these developers think gamers are idiots? Because it sure looks like it.
These guys are retards.
Exact same thing I was thinking. But to be fair, Olin isn't someone who thinks on his feet in interviews, he seems like a reclusive person and I'm VERY surprised he is actually the community manager with the way he speaks and acts. Very unprofessional attitude all round from him imo. "Even if we gave them away for free, not everyone would download the pack" It's like they come up for an excuse that they don't even need to. Obviously if it was actual DLC then it would be a logistical nightmare, but if you patch it in for everyone then EVERYONE has it and has to have it in order to play online. What they're saying more or less is that they don't want to give free stuff away because they'd rather figure out a way to exploit people and have them pay money for additional weapons.
Yes, I'm guessing a mandatory patch with the extra weapons wouldnt be that big. Then unlock the weapons for those who pay for the DLC. Its been done in other games, just sounds like laziness.
BFBC2 did it.
TBO though the BFBC2 weapons were shite, just reskins, can't belive they asked people to pay money for them.
@retrofly....the kit upgrades are actually useful because they give you camo uniforms as well. Plus it came with a bunch more achievements and awards. Everyone knew the gun was just camo-reskinned. Vietnam on the other hand, all new experience. What is TBO??
See this is why you take time developing your game so you can have everything in there before launch.
i just wanted to point out that the reason given, is bullshit.
I don't really see how. If you don't download the weapons pack then you're effectively placing yourself at a disadvantage, which I doubt any serious player would put up with.
Black Ops has more weapons than most FPS in the market today, and people are asking for more. If they did do that, it would affect netcode and balance
So wait, they can't do weapon packs but they claim they can do the same things BF3 can do? lmao!
does BF3 have weapon packs, I'm confused? why should Black Ops need weapon packs when it has at least 30 weapons already? what do you think is missing in terms of weapons, I'm fucking intrigued
Black Ops should have classic weapon packs. The sniper rifle selection in Black Ops is just terrible. There's only one freaking bolt action, the rest are just crappy, weak semi-automatics. Even though I've grown to hate CoD games, one good thing I can say about them is that they always have the best weapons/weapon customization.
30+ weapons and only 5 of them are been used and rest are just there to fill the category. and BFBC2 has more weapons then BO.
- It's the miniscule change in portability, the design of the iron sights and the sound of the gun that trick the poor guys who actually still play this game.
@jmorgan well described mate :)
Thanks man :)
I use most of them. It's fun to try and get a good game from a mediocre weapon.
What's hilarious about Call of Duty is that one of the ways they keep you playing is by having an unnecessary volume of guns, yet with that many guns they can't find a way to make them all feel different and still be balanced. That's why you constantly see people complaining about this or that being "overpowered" every time they release a game. Well that and the fact that CoD fanboys are a bunch of whiny babies who get mad if they get killed by the same gun too many times. They're right, trying to add new guns would be more trouble than it's worth, especially since the CoD fans will continue to play it regardless of what extra crap you give them.
I would say nearly all the SMG's, shotguns, pistols and snipers are near on useless, except the AK74U and SPAS (in certain situations) Ok in MW2 not all the weapons were even but the worst ones were useable (Except the F2000, *shudder*). It seems in BO they way they have balanced it, is nerf nearly all the guns, so everyone has to run around with a AR. There you go balanced. yeah when everyones using the same weapon that's not balanced.
Actually, in my brief stint with Black Ops I found the MP5, Specter and MPL to be useful. You just need to know how to use them. The MPL has horrible range but it's pretty accurate and has a fast fire rate, so I use it exclusively when I'm patrolling close quarters areas.
MP5 and MPL were usuable yes, but it constantly felt like you were at a disadvantage. MPL with steady is great, you dont even need to ADS, http://www.youtube.com/watc... Vid i made a while ago.
I never liked any of the guns in black ops they were all shit, at least in MW2 they were all usable I mean you can't even use snipers in BO idk why they are even in the game!? Fuck BO and it's list of crap guns that all sound the same.
They need to fix the weapons already on the game! Let alone make more! Ardvits right! they just want more money, lazy developers!
Bring them out for free then
"we just don't have any more memory to spare" What? It's DLC.
Ok I just read the article, it does actually make sense. When the game loads it loads all the textures for the map, guns, character models etc in the the memory (RAM). This is so it can be quickly accessed as you run about the map, if it had to read it off the Disk or HD it would get laggy as hell. Due to the nature of the game they have to load all the weapon textures and skins into the game as any the weapons can be used at any time, this means when they made the game they maxed out the memory, thus giving us the most stuff possible. This means its not possible to add extra weapons becuase theres no memory left to put them in. That's why he mentioned map specific weapons, as you could clear some space for that specific map and allocate it for new weapons. But this would mean releasing new DLC maps with reduced textures and have the gun's as pickup only. As he said tryarch don't want to go down that route. It actually makes perfect sense and would be horrible to implement. They should work on the guns they have, not mess about with new ones.
Yeah that does make sense. I keep forgetting that consoles have so little ram (main and/or video). It's interesting that modern consoles have memory problems that affect things this deep into gameplay, that was something that plagued old systems. Maby if they made their own engine instead of stealing IW's hard work (on an engine originally designed for PC)...
I'm getting so over games being released with constant Patches and DLC. Why can't they just have everything ready to go when the game is released for $60.00? By the time you have to buy all the DLC for the game to play with your friends you'll have $100.00 in the game.
Treyarch has only excuses. They are just so lazy.
Yeah they are, their games are nothing but copy and paste jobs of the previous IW game.
the community ruins cod's mp more than anything which is why i dont play it anymore. 7/10 matches are camper infested. yes, i dealt with it and my kd is like 1.73 but its just boring playing with campers and ghost campers. until cod gives rusher modes that will separate the players who want to have fun from the kd obsessed, then, i wont be buying another. only prob i have with the guns are the overuse of the famas(truly overpowered), galil and 47u
CoD games with their P2P gaming and cookie cutter gameplay are a logistical nightmare
@jjank11 It means "To be honest"
MAG had no problem with it. You have to make the weapons free and the make the download mandatory. Other games have done it as well, but the new weapons were only available on the new maps that they came on. What his statement really means is they can't do it and charge for it so they wont do it at all.
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