One of the loudest salvos of the console war has been fired; a joint strike between Valve and the Sony’s Playstation: Valve is announcing that Portal 2 on the PSN will be the first title to be absolutely supported between the PC and Playstation.
Hell yeah; my PS3 is already pre-ordered.
It wont change anything, unless more games start coming to PS3 with Steamworks. A single portal 2 being with Steam works wont do anything. Though it would be interesting to see Sony makes a push and releases its games on PS3 and PC and use Steamworks while they are at it.
Yeah but do you really expect Valve to put all this effort in then do nothing with it? I'd be pretty surprised if they did.
Half Life 3?
Yea unless it leads to more PS3 games it is meaningless, but if we start seeing a lot more games ending up on the PS3 then it is a very, very big deal. In the end its all about the games.
Nevertheless, it is clear that buy buying the PS3 version, you will be getting by far the most value for your money. Not only a free Steam copy, but cross platform co-op and now all of this. Besides, you really think, they'll do nothing more with this? I'm sure Valves partnership with Sony will be very beneficial for both parties and gamers alike; this is only the first step.
I agree with oxymoron028, there is no way valve is going to let this slide to the way side after P2. I expect a positive snow ball effect from this for Sony, I'm even going to go as far by saying this pretty much confirms L4D on the PS3/Steam. E3 baby! Like the article said valve don't do anything half ass, Gabe loves video games but he loves his company even more, he clearly loves to compete to be the best in the industry. MS stepped on his toes with the Orange Box deal and that really pissed them off. Not saying they are doing this to spite MS, just saying that current takes the path of least resistance. Gabe won't put his rep on the line because MS did not want to play ball, the man has a company to run and grow, Sony is offering that growth.
This could potentially lead to exclusive deals if Valve is allowed to advertise its service on PS3, and in return the PS3 might be the console to get Half Life 3 or Left 4 Dead 3 exclusively. Lets face it, most PS3 users don't know what STEAM is, so this would be a great opportunity for Valve to have access to almost 50 million PS3 users, and getting them to link their accounts on PS3 with Steam. Because once PS3 users see the kinds of deals on games that you get during all the Steam sales, then Valve stands to gain alot from this.
It will also depend on how balanced cross-platform gaming is. If it is unbalanced,then one side would not care to play with the other.
What if PSN games are sold over Steam? *muses, ponders*
Straight from Valve: https://support.steampowere... Can't wait for Portal 2.
That would be sweet if Valve had a master plan to bring more Sony games to the PC. However, I'm afraid they don't have that much pull...yet...
It doesn't matter how many games there are. You are going to take advantage of it because it is an awesome feature.
See you all on Steam next week. :)
I wonder how Steam is gonna work. Like is there going to be a Steam section on the XMB or on the game menu.
Hey if people want more of this kind of partnership, then they should buy portal 2 to show valve that their future efforts would not be in vain. If we want more cross platform multiplayer or co-op and maybe even keyboard and mouse support to play against pc players than we should support this kind of relationship. I'm all for it and have been a fan of valve since half life.
I am so excited for this game! Can't wait!
God damnit, I want to play this game on Xbox and keep racking up achievements, but jesus....
It took me some time to lose the urge for achievements but after hearing 'plink' a few times i started wanting throphies more. i fully abandoned a 20k gamerscore in 2008 for them.
sweet shing....sweet, sweet shing.....
@ beOne... ...I understand both you and max. Achievements are hard to get away from because if you never had anything but achievements, it's point perfect! I still love them, but trophies are I think better in that you have golds, silvers, and bronzes and that the rating for the golds can boost your score over those who play a lot of games, but only get the bronzes/silvers. Also, getting a platnium looks so good next to your 100% (unless they release DlC... nabbit!)
That trophy sound is so rewarding.
Yea, I prefer trophies over achievements as well. My gamerscore isn't anything special because I only got my 360 a year ago, but I like how trophies have different ranks to them instead of just a higher number attached to it.
The only issue with trophies is you don't know why you got them most of the time. You have to pause the game, press the PS button, find the trophy and read the description. It should be a simple firmware upgrade to list why you get a trophy in game. Come on Sony!
I Want a valve console powered by steam, sick of Sony ms and nintendo
"I Want a valve console powered by Steam" Nowadays, we just call it a PC buddy.
LOL...true. I think he means without spending two grand every six months.
Haha, this. +1
If you think you have to spend $2000 on computer upgrades every six months, you may be retarded.
2+2 = Banana
wow i wish i had 2000€ to spend every 6 months on pc parts. With only 900€ i can create an awesome gamming PC with Monitor and OS included.
@maxcavsm I can't believe people actually believe this. >:(
Guys, he was using hyperbole for comedic effect. Nevertheless the fact remains that gaming PCs are far more expensive than consoles.
@ stoned: yes, I agree; but also he meant that even when the previous gens were five years you had to get upgrades at least once or twice to stay cutting edge. Even though in previous gens the PC was far and away better, his gen... not so far on some games, you know?
For $500 you can get a nice gaming computer. You just can't be stupid on how you go about buying things. An extra $100 will always double your performance but when do you stop? :P
Steam is not coming to PS3, steamworks is. Unless I somehow missed something here. EDIT: Besides, there wouldn't be much point in bringing steam to PS3 anyway, psn already does most of the stuff steam does, except for cross game voice chat and game invites, and perhaps a few other things I can't recall right now.
Correct. Most people who never used Steam don't understand the difference between Steam and Steamworks. Steam: Program that you download on PC that lets you buy and manage your games, friends list, private/group chat (txt or voice), unified server list (search for servers of ALL games or sort by what game you want and other filters. Steamworks: A system that allows a developer to easily get matchmaking, server lists, friends lists, leaderboards, anti-cheat(VAC), Steam achievements, player usage data (such as bugs and crashes and complete times, etc). Also, if you are playing Portal 2 on PS3 and signed into steamworks, you see your unified steam friends list, so you can see all steam friends and what game they are playing. If they are playing Portal 2 (be it PC or PS3) you can choose to join if they have their session to allow friends to join. As more games support steamworks, the more transparent PC/PS3/Xbox(If MS stops being an ass) the platforms become and the more friends you can play with. The thing I hate most about different platforms is that my friends are on different ones and even though I have all 3, I can only play with one set of "platform friends".
I'm all for this. And Move support too.
is portal 2 getting move support?
It won't. They'll have to make more than 1 game to change anything and even then it won't change anything as PS3 will still be for hardcore games/gamers, Wii will still be for Nintendo classic franchises + old people; carnival games, and the 360 will still be for people who want to pay more for less, prepubescent kids, and Kinect shovelware.
Any developer can use steamworks. The point is if this shows PS3 devs (and hopefully MS devs too so they complain to MS to open up XBL) that if they use steamworks, they dont have to run their own leaderboard/matchmaking/friend s list and instead have this centrailized, free-to-the-user system that starts to blur the line between platforms. Imagine Homefront using steamworks on PC/PS3/Xbox (again on xbox if MS stop being dumb) and being able to play it on your PS3 and with your 2 PS3 friends and 3 PC friends and 3 Xbox friends? That is how gaming SHOULD be. Buy a platform, but you still get to game with others. That would be so nice.
How can someone disagree with your statement? Lol.
Homefront already uses steamworks on PC. A lot of games do. So it'll mostly be a factor of supporting it on the console end. Though if devs start using steamworks then that means Valve's pie just got bigger. A steamwork game means steam has to be installed for the PC version (and all parties need a steam account), and the more people using their infrastructure, the bigger valve gets. Usually I'd be afraid if I saw a company gaining so much power... but with Valve, I can kind of hold faith that this might not end up screwing us all in the long-run.
this huge problem with this thought is that unless it's co-op it dosnt' work. PC IE keyboard and mouse will dominate anything and there's no denying that in competitve MP. now like i said for al games co-op and stuff it would be great but alas it just doesn't work. consoles are not there yet and until PC/console becomes ONE system offically they're unbalanced by the console constrictions. granted portal since it's just friendly co-op cross-system play should work perfectly if implemented properly. so i do like the sound of the gaming utopia you are referring too but it just cannot happen. sorry. imagine: counterstrike source on xbox360/ps3!!? lol you'd all cry and go back to cod. granted i own a ps3 and i love my exclusives such as metal gear solid but those days are gone now since mgs is over...so sad...anyway back on topic. PC gaming is miles ahead of consoles an until the develops of these consoles and computers get together to creat ONE machine that does it all lol basically just a computer ;) eitherway lol it can't and will not happen. besides i dont' want it while it's inferior to pc gaming as is.
Ugh more fanboy ramblings and completely false. PS3 for hardcore games? The opposite is true. The Xbox360 is currently the platform of choice for people who play hardcore games/fps'. If the PS3 didn't have such a drachonian online setup this would be different but for now, the PS3 is a joke online in comparison. I've been waiting for the day where I can move on to the PS3 from the 360 and play online games with ease but after 5 years I find myself still waiting for basic online essentials like cross-game chat and a decent interface and NOT having to wait 45 minutes to install a game and then wait 15 odd minutes for updates to download and WAIT AGAIN for the update to install (in comparison to <10 seconds on the 360). I gladly pay my yearly subscription of £40 for Live simply because I couldn't deal with the barebones, antiquated system that the PS3 has.
Your comment sound like fanboy rambling to me. I have yet to play a PS3 game that takes 45 mins to install. What game is that?
All those things you listed don't bother me and the best part is I don't have to pay $60 a year :o
please dont' spread your falsehoods xbot. i'm not a fanboy but i can sure smell your shit from that podium you stand on...please kid this isn't about a console war. this is just making educated assumptions of what the future can potentially hold. and xbox is the exact same as ps3 but with ur cross-game chat that you paid a shitload of money for lol. PC is by far supreme if you wanna talk about features so no PC is the most hardcore platform and ur ignorant if you disagree. just look at the bf2 and counterstrike players when those games are more than 5 years old. plus cod4 has lean and vote to kick which are the most important features in an FPS anyway aside from mod-tools which are gone because of the idiot console market in other words YOU lol
Leave it alone, there is no console war, it's over everybody enjoy the games.
they are creating a new market for themselves and quietly suggesting that if/when ps3 owners decide to upgrade that they buy a pc and play their games on steam instead of ps4 BRILLIANT! all they need now is a Valve designed GPU in "partnership" with a manufacturer
Or they are encouraging that whatever platform you are on, you should be able to play with whomever you want even if your friend is on a PS3 and you are on an xbox and if your other friend is on PC and another on on a Mac.....
Good point,I like playing on PC and would like to e able to play co-op with console gamer friends.
I never said I disagree with that, but if you don't have a pc, and get free copies of games for the pc (assuming they follow up by releasing more, they said "first game to" use these features) why would you NOT get a PC? It can be both, and is. It's giving players their money's worth, while also bringing more people to steam on PC. You'd have to be naive to not see that or see it as someone making up a "conspiracy", its just good business all around.
Crossgame chat and cross platform chat are one of the many features that steamworks brings to the PS3. Or at least thats what they said in an interview
The only person lighting fires is the retarded pseudo journalist who write this crap.
This is interesting. I can't get a feel for how everything is going to work though, at least until it's all on the PS3 and I can try it first-hand. Looking forward to this, though.
I wish Steam would come to Xbox. At least we have twitter and facebook...oh wait. LOL
Valve is smart, all it is, is a giant advertisement for Steam on PC and Mac. People will realize steam is better, and boom.
People aren't just going to suddenly stop Console gaming in favor of PC gaming...people already know PC gaming exists. What this is about is VALVE and STEAM expanding. Expanding to consoles and hopefully into your living room. Being part of the PSN and FUTURE PSN (PS4 and PS5), doubles and triples their current base and potential future customers. Don't be surprised that if one day, Valve opens up a full blown Steam store on the next Playstation console project. Some of that might even happen on the PS3.
my cousin did, others I know have as well.
well my cousin was PC gamer but switched to consoles. His reasoning was that PC gaming takes up too much resources and gets in the way of his music producing. True story. So just to let you know, Not everyone's cousin is jumping ship to the PC all of a sudden. Its actually the contrary. :)
Yeah, I've used Steam and Valve games to convert at least a half dozen of my console gaming friends into avid PC gamers. All them sweet deals, are hard to ignore.
Steam on the PC is like 70% of all digital downloads. To put it in perspective. Valve runs PC Gaming...and we love it. Steam is now on MAC....and overnight Steam now runs MAC gaming with an iron fist...eew yuk Mac...but those latte drinkers with $8000 computers love it. Steamworks is now on the PS3...no comment (some people can't take a joke unlike my Mac friends) Steam is not on the PS3 just to hang out, they are there to infiltrate and Dominate when the PS4 is released. I see the PSN being axed for Steamworks on the PS4 or titled PSN by Steam or something like that you get the picture. It's only a matter of time before Steam completes the trifecta.
No way would psn be axed. Less money for sony and they would have to pay valve for steam.
Wrong!! It would mean MORE money for Sony as Sony wouldn't have to pay money to maintain the SERVERS and BANDWITDH also know as the NETWORK. Steam with their huge server farms would handle the Network and maintenance and all Sony would have to do is collect a check. No headaches no worries no paying out money to maintain PSN just sit back and collect a check. Plus you bring in 30+ million PC gamers who then could download PSN only games to their PC. Cha Ching even MORE money as PC gamers buy way more Indie games than consolers. Sony is a smart company and everyone knows STEAM does DD better than anyone. Whatever Steams DD contract is with Publishers it must be awesome because everyone is on it and happy with it.
Well said ATi.
i love my macbook and i will probably play portal 2 on here so that my girl and i can do co-op...at least maybe depends she kinda liked the 1st for not being a gamer whatsoever lol. anyway mac is not a bad computer in fact it's pretty damn secure since it's fanbase is much smaller BUT alas i do my gaming on my PC for things like cod4 and l4d2 also crysis 1 and soon to be bf3 naturally.