Submitted by -Mezzo- 1448d ago | news

Rage Best-Looking Console Game This Gen - Carmack

John Carmack believes Rage is arguably the best-looking console game to date.

Rage is headed to PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 id veteran and programming genius Carmack said the toughest technical accomplishment was getting the game to run at 60fps on all formats. (John Carmack, PC, PS3, Rage, Xbox 360)

-Mezzo-  +   1448d ago
Ahh, Here We Go Again, First "Crytek" Now "id Software".
TheXonySbox  +   1448d ago
Id have a good record
Doom 3 on Xbox looked amazing for the H/W it was run on, I think if anyone can pull it off ID can; they have some of the best programmers around.

Lookup jace hall show, one of the last episodes shows new rage footage on 360; basically best looking 360 game i've seen.

I think he might be right..only time tells though.
malamdra  +   1448d ago
not even close according to the vids released so far

both Uncharted games, both PS3 Killzone games, God of War 3, Metal Gear 4, Crysis 2, al look better than Rage
candystop  +   1448d ago
malamdra: What the heck have you been smoking son. I mean seriously lmao!!
nsnsmj  +   1448d ago
I agree with ya for the most part. id does have an awesome track record....So I just checked out the footage you mentioned from the Jace Hall show, and that's where I disagree. Especially when Jace said it was the best looking console game he had ever seen. In my opinion, Gears 3 looks better. I know I'm not seeing it on my own tv, but that was direct feed footage if I'm not mistaken. Still though, I mos def plan on getting Rage.
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LOGICWINS  +   1448d ago
@mezzo- Problem? If Carmack wants to say that he has the best looking console game to date...why isn't he allowed to voice his opinion?
DelbertGrady  +   1448d ago
He's not a 1st party developer for Sony. Only they are allowed (by the N4G mob) to utter such claims. Nevermind that id have been pioneers in graphics since Doom.
LOGICWINS  +   1448d ago
Biggest  +   1448d ago
Where in mezzo's post did he say anything about quieting Carmack's opinion? He simply voiced his opinion about someone else's opinion. Why isn't mezzo allowed to voice his opinion? Nevermind that Carmack never pioneered anything on closed consoles since ever.
LOGICWINS  +   1448d ago
@Biggest- I never said mezzo couldn't have his opinion, I was merely questioning why he had that particular opinion.

@MysticStrummer- I was just pointing out that its okay for a dev to say that they think that their game looks better than others. From mezzo's comment, I got the impression that he thought that devs weren't allowed to do this.
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MysticStrummer  +   1448d ago
And if mezzo wants to point out that this claim has been made before and proved false, which it has... Problem? Also, Carmack says it's arguable, not that it's truth set in stone. If it's arguable, people should be able to offer another opinion without being jumped by the usual trolls. But... we are on N4G after all.
NiKK_419  +   1448d ago
*looks at picture*
Really?....Wow, you are such a fanboy

OT: that is a strong claim. I could believe it if he said on 360 or something like that, but even then it's still a strong claim

Crytek claimed this and while the game looks good, it takes A LOT of hits in draw distance, texture, AI and more to achieve this, and although it does have great lighting, it doesn't look THAT good, so I'm not sure if I would actually believe this
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Rynx  +   1448d ago
-....-e go again.. -.- ZZZzzzzZZZ
palaeomerus  +   1448d ago
Crytek was right.

Why won't iD be right too?

Why won't DICE and their BF3 perhaps be the best when it comes out? Console graphics software advances and unfortunately Fanboys sacred cows don't.
MysticStrummer  +   1448d ago
Troll nonsense. That's what never changes. No honest person with functional vision thinks Crytek was right.
zero_cool  +   1448d ago
id software can back it up unlike crytek & id softwares track record proves it!
KDubyah  +   1448d ago
@mezzo -
Lol, DICE is saying the same thing with Battlefield 3. :)
PaPa-Slam  +   1448d ago
Well i am happy that it's 60FPS on all platform, let wait and see if what Carmack said is true or not.
Keyop  +   1448d ago
He should check out Infamous 2 then.....
ManiacMansion  +   1448d ago
ian72  +   1448d ago
All developers seem to be saying this lately.
bumnut  +   1448d ago
True, but this is coming from the devs who invented the fps.
thekiddfran  +   1448d ago
Naughty dog of released an official response!

Game0N  +   1448d ago
excellent comment
VINNIEPAZ  +   1448d ago
That pic has been old since it was 1st used
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thekiddfran  +   1448d ago

Humour or humor (see spelling differences) is the tendency of particular cognitive experiences to provoke laughter and provide amusement. The term derives from the humoral medicine of the ancient Greeks, which taught that the balance of fluids in the human body, known as humourous (Latin: húmor, "body fluid"), control human health and emotion.
palaeomerus  +   1448d ago
And if your joke's not funny...and it's just a stale old meme/animated gif that you saw on NeoGAF three years ago...well..intended humor or not it's just not funny.
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theonlylolking  +   1448d ago
I want to see PC gameplay since the xbox gameplay has bad graphics(sorry iD and Carmack fans).

I do applaud them for getting 60fps but saying it is best graphics on console is not right
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ksoto  +   1448d ago
Lol he shouldnt just chk out Infamous 2 he should chcekc out current games like UC2 and Killzone that still hold this title and till this day more than a year later no game has bested it.
Its the same story they put out the best videos and pre rendered and air brushed pics and will release a CGI trailer, but whent he dust settles ppl see how really talented Sony devs and first party studios are bcus their games are just still on top!!!!
Anyway UC3 will be amazing as will infamous and Resistance 3 is the sleeper that game based off vids is looking awesome (multiplayer will be bad ass!!)
Shaman  +   1448d ago
They should get their games up to 60fps and design them to be less linear and restricting so it would be fair to compare.

Although I don't think it will be best looking game on consoles it will look great and will run at twice the speed of competition.
ksoto  +   1448d ago
Running the twice the speed at what cost? Warhawk, Some Call of duty games and ninja gaiden sigma all run at 60 fps but are they considered the best games or best looking? Negative the best looking games tht hold that crown and best overall are the ones that run at 30 fps. I believe Gran turismo 5 is also 60 fps although i may be mistaken.
Ill take my UC2 and KZ over all those games minus Gran turismo anyday!
Ducky  +   1448d ago
^ So, you're going to take visuals over responsive gameplay.


Edit @ below:

I never said that, you're simply putting words in my mouth.
I'm not saying that a game has to be at 60fps to be responsive.
Nor does a game have to be at 30fps to look good visually (you could've inferred this from my comment as well)

A game running at 60fps will however be more responsive. A game running at 30fps will likely be better looking.
I was merely commenting on ksoto's preference.
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Biggest  +   1448d ago
It has to be 60 FPS or it isn't responsive? I don't believe that is a true statement.

Edit: The way you wrote it and they way you explained it, until your last statement, are different. He doesn't NEED 60FPS to have responsive controls.
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Omega Zues  +   1448d ago
Im a big fan of Carmack and I have no doubt that Rage will look great but as of late its been one big circus event for developers dancing around on the stage trying to grab attention. "THIS looks the best!", "NO NO WE LOOKS EVEN BETTER!"

But thats all great to hear, I love it when developers push them selves to create an even better game.
Ducky  +   1448d ago
I don't think any game running at 60fps can take the crown in visual achievements... since someone can make something better-looking while letting the fps take its toll.

That being said, if there's someone that can pull off 60fps and still match visuals of the top dogs, it's Carmack. (Assuming his touch hasn't waned this gen)
godsinhisheaven  +   1448d ago
Tired of this kind of statement, tired of FPS...
tompoulo  +   1448d ago
Seriously AMAZING looking game!!! Can't wait to get my hands on this game!

MASSIVE LOL at the end that he tries to steal the xbox360!!! :P
ksoto  +   1448d ago
"So, you're going to take visuals over responsive gameplay" Dumbest comment ive read so far lol As it was mentioned up top so 60 fps means responsive? lol Then i mentioned UC2 and Killzone series which have no trade off in any two categories (best graphics and great gameplay) so why you made that comment is beyond me lol
Ducky  +   1448d ago
You're right. It is beyond you.

Nice effort though.
XabiTheHumble  +   1448d ago
Like Crysis 2 was supposed to be? XD
aia12  +   1440d ago
crysis 2 as of now is the best looking game across ALL platforms. anyone that says otherwise is literally having sex with their ps3s
ColecoVision  +   1448d ago
I have my doubts, but i'll still keep an open mind. Even if it turns out that this game becomes the new console graphic king, I doubt you'll have some of the Sony loyalists admitting that a multiplatform game is better than some of Sony's exclusives.
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gypsygib  +   1448d ago
If any multiplat dev can take advantage of PS3 extra raw power to compete with Sony's exclusives, Carmack's the guy to do it.
aia12  +   1440d ago
the 360 version from what I've seen looks better than anything on ps3 so the ps3 version will look at least as good .
zero_cool  +   1448d ago
I hope there is a 3D & playstation move option for those who want the ability to play rage with those settings.
Kakihara  +   1448d ago
Surely 'most graphically advanced' or something would be a better way to put it. I mean surely the fact that it looks painfully generic and uninspired counts for something.
bozebo  +   1448d ago
60FPS, I'm gonna get Rage.
Counter Strike  +   1448d ago
Naughty Dog and Epic Games
Wil lshut up this guy

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