OXM UK: Treyarch's Josh Olin has defended the 1200MSP price of the Call of Duty: Black Ops map packs, saying that people "see value" in them.
LOL That is all.
I dont see the value in maps that cost 1200msp... Since I paid for the first maps on MW2 I was like WTF am I paying for here? Maps that didnt make the game disc but could probably have easily fit... Most DLC isnt worth its price tag, I mean look at need for speed. They had 5 car packs out only a few months after the game was out, but they could have fit every car pack on the disc... The best value for money DLC on xbox live and PSN IMO was the GTA IV add on - TLAD TBOGT, the Vietnam expansion, the maps on WaW were 800msp and they were better, I got single player and multiplayer. 1200msp for maps no thanks. Theres no value in items that missed the DVD
People can "LOL" all they want, but as long as gamers continue to purchase $15 map packs by the ass-load, map packs will continue to cost $15.
"I dont see the value in maps that cost 1200msp..." Actually I disagree, I see plenty of value in these map packs. They'll help me distinguish those who need to be 'culled' from the genetic pool when I come to power in 2046 and initiate 'Operation: Twat Removal'.
@Sanford Agreed. it's very disappointing it was the #1 dlc on PSN
LOL is correct. When I did own it I felt like the same 5 maps were always recycled and now additional maps cost the player $15 each. They should all be free.
Whats 1200msp??? Is that supposed to be money?! How much is 1msp supposed to be in actual currency??
It`s 80msp to a dollar, so 1200 is roughly $15 USD. If you try and break it down any lower you are dealing in algebra. It`s just a way for Microsoft to split you from your money. It turns your cash into Monopoly money.
As I understand it, 100 msp (MicroSoft Points) is $1.25. So the map packs are $15, or $3.75 per map. I don't know for sure, though. I never buy microsoft points. I just did the math. @dgroundwater: Algebra? Really? 80msp for $1 is 4 msp for a nickel. Any further than that and you're dealing with fractions. And that is 5th grade math. Not algebra. Trust me, I've solved quadratic equations.
That about right but in Canada it's 70 MSP = 1 dollar. Also, you can't buy exactly 1200 msp, you have to buy 1400 for $20.00 leaving you will extra, and personally, I'm not waisting money buying virtual clothing, so those maps packs cost 20 bucks really (on 360).
LOL i agree enkeicpres but there something wrong because the map packs sell alot even for being over priced
Value? Roflmao. Explain how Bad company 2 has 5 giant maps and 15 new weapons and you have 4 unbalanced maps and a zombie map. People that buy BOps map packs are idiots.
I agree and the vietnam expansion for $15 that alone is worth more than all the crappy map packs they gonna put out for Call of dooty. Off topic:Can anyone sign in to psn? i'm trying to update kz3 but i keep getting an error.
haven't been able to sign in to PSN all day, but updates are working fine for me.
I am getting an error too
Same here. I keep getting error 80710D36.... Thanks for "fighting for freedom of speech" and [email protected] up my ability to connect to my system, assholes! I just don't understand why suddenly SONY is being attacked for doing their JOB and protecting their property/services... I guess since Nintendo and Microsoft just "love" their systems being so easily hacked and never tried snuffing out these types of "hackers", groups like Anon are mad that SONY don't just lay down and do nothing like their competition. I have not read ONE thing these hackers have done to be justified in their actions and it just keeps getting worse for us end-users who have or want NOTHING to do with this whole situation. Nothing they have done yet has benefited ANYONE as of yet, even Anon themselves (unless ego-boosts count, which to a faceless group must be HUGE).
I haven't purchased a CoD map pack since WaW... None of the maps from the past 2 games looked like any fun, at all.
I see robbery
I mean they're not lying. I wouldn't give them $15 but plenty of people buy them so clearly they see value. If all you play is Call of Duty then an extra $15 for maps is probably worth it to you.
They don't see value... they are just idiots... and sheep.... so idiotic sheep are the main people to buy overpriced DLC!
That doesn't even make sense. If you're willing to pay $15 for something that is optional you clearly see value in it.
I know what you are saying BeaArthur, if someone thinks it is worth paying for and they enjoy it, then they see value in it... plus if you add up the sheer amount of hours they get out of it, then it can be argued that they are getting value out of it..... But like most things, a hint of truth does not make it true... I might like eating apples sooo much that I am willing to pay £1 per apple as I get soo much enjoyment from the taste... then I could cite the health benefits ect ect.... But the reality is.... just because I THINK that it is ok for them to charge that much for apples... and because I am WILLING to pay that much.... it does not mean that I am not getting ripped off... that is how rip offs work! And if I keep paying that for apples, and other people with that same erroneous view keep paying it.... then guess what? Everyone else who likes apples but knows their real value will be forced to either overpay... or they will just have to stop eating apples!
15 dollars for 5 maps and a zombie map. Expensive yes,but worth it for COD players.
Activision could sell a massive steaming pile of elephant sh*t to the CoD faithful.
they like the game and it sells the maps are fine and good.
CoDtards will still buy it man....trust me there is one CoDtard I know personally who even skips work to play the freaking game...
well it's quite a good game yeah, a solid 8/10 but has some horrible multi-player glitches and balancing issues and the single player is pretty standard. I think it's one of the best examples of the majority belief fallacy. I will fervently argue against individuals or reviews who think it is anywhere near a 9 or above.
Treyarch is a pretty cool guy. eh likes monies and doesnt afraid of anything
well,people have to see value in the map pack since they are willing to dish out 15 bucks
I got a good months value out of the First Strike map pack. Some full games don't even give you that.
In all honesty he's right. Cause people blow their money on this like its nothing. May not be value to you and me, but there are some fools who think it is
And sadly those fools will tempt all other devs to go down the same route screwing the gaming industry for all of us :(
exactly smh. I'm sad to say one of my cousins is among these fools. Truly believes cod is the goty every time -_-
I laugh because when then new xbox/ps4 hits and they close all the "servers" (I still lol at calling them that) everyone that bought these map packs will have wasted every cent on levels they can't play.
How is it wasted money if they got their use out of it? That's like saying it's a waste of money buying any game with online play because their servers will be shut down eventually.
PC COD servers are not going anywhere for at least 10-15 yeqars... maybe more. I wouldn't say that for the console games though.
Sorry I didn't realize you were a PC elitist.
Yeah, just like I saw value when that mugger took my wallet.
I see no value in paying for any maps, for any game. That includes COD, Killzone , and all the other devs who want to milk gamers.
lol the sad part is that people are able to create maps better than they do but cannot since they'd never release a map tool creater like Halo forge for example. Really those maps look like they had been made in an hour. Same Props in every map. Instead they charge a sh!t load for a map that even a monkey knows how to make.
Agreed. Why wait 3 months for four more maps when you can have 4000 maps in three days? LBP2 has over 4 million levels now, but that's counting the ones imported from LBP1. "But 99% of user created maps/levels are crap." So? That last 1% is still more levels in a week then you'll ever get from Activision. And you can always make your own. UGC>DLC Oh yeah! You don't have to pay for user generated content either. UGC FTW
i dont . also FCUK ANON
is who are these so-called people that see 'value' in 1200msp map packs...I reckon its the people at Activision and Treyarc only.
I wish they would just release the zombie map separate so I don't have to pay for maps I'm never going to use because they are so terribly set up.
BullCrap to English translation: "Everybody bitches about the price, but they'll still pay for it, so we have no reason to lower it." Josh Olin was later seen drop kicking a kitten, and punching a pensioner in the kidney before shitting in their hat.
So true... I even got tears rolling down my cheeks
That was perfect translation :D But to be honest, some people spend a LOT of hours playing these levels.. Tought I still agree they are WAAAAAAY overpriced.
The people that see value in it are the main player-base though, meaning 12 year old kids with their mommy's credit card.
SURE they do Treyarch... like you'd tell us if they said they didn't, right?
All the time idiots will pay for it, we will keep getting overcharged... and even people who won't pay for this DLC for this game will get hit in the long run as they will all keep edging their prices up!
True, it's common problem, and PC is starting to get own part of it (Thank god for modding). There are still some nice surprises, like Dice, BF:BC2 all map-packs free (code came with game), and a freaking full Vietnam add-on about same price CoD charges for few maps. I hope this trend will continue with BF 3..
Treyarch is freaking stupid. I am not buying any treyarch made games.
i want to see them selling a santa hat for two euro and a gold melee knife for another two euro both guaranteed to sell a million+ cod is a money making machine, throw in a gold harrier strike for 50 euro
Was this written April 1st?
I never see value in any of the map packs ever...the only one map pack I ever purchased was for BFBC2 Other than that I only buy dlcs which add to the story...
I've never purchased a map pack for any game. In fact, the only DLC I've ever bought are the GTA4 DLC (I got both stories on disk for $15 from BB) and I bought the Undead Nightmare DLC on sale last week. I'd pay for SP extensions but not maps, cars, items, although I think the Vietnam expansion was worth it - it was like another game.
fallout 3 dlc, fallout new vegas dlc, gta iv dlc, red dead dlc and the gears of war 2 dlc are the only ones id spend 1200 msp on
Treyarch put better and more content than IW did with DLC for the same price, but still, 1200 Pts is too much. It's the price for a full arcade game.
"see value" Seeing aint believing.
lol at the overarching hate and vitrol against people that like something you don't I enjoy playing COD from time to time and I'm a mature 22 year old college graduate with an engineering job and can make 15 bucks in half an hour.....but you know your right, everyone who plays cod is a 12 year old who gets all his money from parents..... Does the game and community have it's problems? Sure, but so does every other multiplayer game....even BC2 has some community issues Get over yourselves... Self righteous people are not good people
15 dollars for maps YOU MUST BE CRAZY i will never payed that much 4.99 for maps on Killzone 3 now that's a good deal
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