Geek Revolt writes "Today the hacker group anonymous took down a few Sony websites. In their eyes this will send a message to Sony—but do they realize who their actions are truly hurting? I don’t think they do, here’s why they have a flawed logic."
Bunch of WANKERS.
Stay away from Sony! Make your own console with free internetz and do whatever you wanna do, please. Please dont. Stick to war, religion, health care, freedom of speech etc. etc.! I love my console and I think this is getting in the wrong direction and I don't even work in the industry I just enjoy my PS3 console. And Anon when you have donated 300 million yen to the victims of the earthquakes in Japan, then come back again. Best if you have a site where it's possible to donate to the families too :)
agreed...if you fags wanna help out the little guy get rid of the predatory credit card companies who take advantage of anyone who has or will ever have one.
I can't access www.us.playstation.com but managed to after several reloads but I can't login to my PSN ID! I tried the asia website and it's ok but once I tried to access the store, I can't! ok, now I'm pissed! if I got back from work and I can't play online, I'm seriously going to curse these lowlife scumbags for life! WTF did I do to deserve this? I paid for everything but because of your stupid agenda I can't even play my games! I'll say it again, YOU LOWLIFE SCUMBAGS!
@ above don't worry its just a DOS attack (denial of service attack) all they do is ping those servers and ips to death if a web site or a server is attacked with this kind of thing it gets slow and sometimes it doesn't respond due to overwhelming responds and requests(from attackers) and it all goes as soon as they turn off their PC's so its nothing dangerous or anything
lol Captain Obvious, more please!!
It seems so far all this group of people is doing so far is glorified 'bombs' that were popular over a decade ago...they just overload Sony's server network for specific services...and it can make host performance sporadic because of it... It doesn't 'hurt' Sony...they can 'see' what is causing the problems...and there are ways to deal with it if needed... My job involves a lot of IT security for a construction company...and we run scenarios a couple times a month to test the system security...a lot of the time which involves our own employees, me included, basically trying to hack everything possible and to find weaknesses...I get the rush of vanity that these guys receive from trying to do this kind of stuff...but totally agree with the article that they are simply not helping who they claim to be helping... the irony is the name 'anonymous' they go by...because the only reason anyone is involved with it is to feel special about themselves...even though absolutely no one cares...and it is more than anything simply pointless and annoying...
... I've seen that same comment of yours on almost all related articles about the same subject so, Please make that the last time you copy+paste that comment. Most people on this site will find that statement of yours quite offensive or inappropriate. Thanks
No, I will say what i want about those WANKERS, Thanks ? for what ? The agree's say it all, A lot of people feel the same way about them.
wow sensitive much. The word wankers is just a word.
ive seen you say the same comment like 3 or 4 times now. lol
so its like a freedom fighter who fight for the people, but doing it by burning the people's house to send a message that they are strong and capable of doing something 'significant'! hmmm thats what terrorism means for me!
I dont even think it's them tbh.. The other people they have attacked have been for far bigger reasons, with factually correct reasons to do so and were very smart in what they said and how they done things.. However this time the reasoning is pretty dumb, the message they sent out was rather dumb, and the attacks totally contradict the reason for hacking.. Not only that but the DDoS attack is something that can be easily googled as well as many pre-made scripts for such things can be downloaded, as for the information of certain people.. each person that got details found out could also be googled.. I wouldn't be suprised if it was some wanna be teen who hates sony ad just googled a few tricks trying to gain internet fame lol.. Either way if it's a wanna be or actually them this is an idiotic move
stop givin these virgins attention n they will go away!!!!
Actually, most anon thinks this "opsony" is stupid and aren't even bothering with it. On top of that, Sony was having maintenance today so they really didn't do anything.
We are anonymous We are nerds We brought down PSN We hurt innocent gamers in the process We done goofed.
we dont reveal our names cuz we are pu$$ys
Umm yeah i doubt they would release their names HENCE the name anonymous.
Yes, you are totally a pu$$y for not revealing your name to everyone when you are committing a crime.
And the consequences will never be the same..!!!
Like I've written in another Anon article. Their tactics seem more of the Islamic Terrorist and White Supremacist. Both group brave enough to appear on camera but not so brave enough that they need to wear masks and utilize voice changers. Hey Anon.Make a 3 million dollar donation towards the Tsunami relief then come back and talk to us.
As I stated in another article. All that "legion" are doing is bring more attention to themselves. With Sony already trying to get IP address from youtube/twitter for the Geohotz case whats to stop them from going after youtube again for the video that was posted since they have admited to causing this trouble it is only going to help sonys case getting ips.
Umm... logic? Have you visited their IRC chatroom for a few seconds? Or googled up on what they are? They're just a bunch of random pubescent brats on the internet with too much time on their hands, and download programs that let them launch DoS attacks on websites/networks from their home computers. For the "lulz." There's almost nothing resembling of "logic" within this cesspool of antisocial, lowlife kids that want to feel like they're a part of something.
ouch dont be too hard they seem like the type to commit suicide if they mom dont buy them a new computer
hackers never cared about freedom of information and all that speech, they just want to impose their egos into everyone, and the digital era provides the medium for these groups to do some real damage. They will find out, just like the mob did, that drawing too much attention is not always a good thing
Indeed the logic of Anonymous is flawed. But what's equally flawed is the support here on N4G for a corporation that intends to infringe on the right to privacy of hundreds of people. This thing stinks on all sides.
yeah that whole privacy issue should also be dealt with no corporation should be allowed to invade our privacy like Sony does
Ever read a TOS? There is an option to decline the terms.
good to see someone without their head up sony's A**.
How is SONY infringing on your privacy? if you don't like their user agreement, Don't buy their products. Its your choice. If you do buy their system and decide to take it apart and see how it works, don't announce it to the world like some divine erudite and post information on the companies proprietary hardware/software property that would in turn do damage to the company by taking from potential revenue inflow that would be used for funding R&D on say PS4, new titles, etc. All these jackasses want are their 15 minutes of internet fame, and the pirates are behind that so they can steal all software they can. Anyone who believes this is a stand because they want to be able to do homebrew, or 'other OS' removal is delusional. Like these guys want to take apart a PS3 so they can make another version of Galaga....right. Get a dev kit if you want to program, the rest of us just want to enjoy a game once in a while.....legitimately.
I am talking about the demand to hand over the names of anyone who visited Geohot's website. They did not enter an agreement with Sony to relinquish their rights.
@PrimordialSoupBase: You sir lack of basic understanding of the case. They didn't demant to hand over names but IPs. And on that basis they can't do a thing to typical viewers, they just wanted to narrow down potential suspects of the infringement. You're crying over privacy but I bet you have at least 8 tracking cookies on your PC, you've given your IP to N4G and pretty much other websites you visit and your email was sold to spammers probably more than once without you even knowing it. And yet you spew the venom on the company that GREW from radio repairing shop starting in a bombed building, in a country damaged by war to be huge corporation as we know it today, which wants to protect it's customers and their business.
I think the IP's were only used by Sony to try to get a trial in California, not even about the actual infringement case.
Primordial, a person's "right to privacy" is not absolute. A person cannot go on the internet and do whatever they want behind the cloak of anonymity. Otherwise there would be no need to log IP addresses, account information, etc. There are certainly situations where privacy should be upheld, such as one domain selling personally identifiable information to another. However when viewing questionable content there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. I'll finish by saying that I don't believe Sony is getting anyone's identity. They got restricted access to IP addresses which they could use to determine point of origin. No names, no home addresses. They wanted this information to show that requests originated from California in an effort to make sure that the case is tried in California.
Didnt know letting a company scan for illegal hardware was invasion of privacy. Its not like sony is copying your photos and uploading them in their offices. They simply get word of a new "hack" and set their servers to scan and disable it. You are not doing anything illegal you have nothing to worry about. And if you are there is an EASY solution. Dont accept the TOS agreement. Honestly, you dont want to play by Sony rules then you get off Sony's servers. End of story.
if you dont like it, dont use it! simple enuff!
Sony didn't and haven't done anything wrong or infringed any private data.. They were legally given the right to have access to the IP's by a judge.. not only that but that haven't found every person they only used them so they could cross check them with PSN users and allowing them to check which had cfw so they could make sure they banned the right people -_- they didn't use the ip's to find out where every single person that visited the site lived and what kind of sandwhiches they eat
We send Geohot into Jail,cheers.
Civil case.No jail time involved Ignorance seems to be a common theme on N4G http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... @ Parapraxis No idea what you are on about bro? Maybe you wrote the theme about being unable to accept opinions you dont like especially non Sony cheerleader opinions Everybodys got an opinion.Im allowed to have mine just like anybody else Deal with it!
Let me guess, you wrote the theme song to that theme Loner....
Still a civil case? Nobody get it seriously...? Destroy gaming industry like music and film,great. I don't care the case before,so I am not so sure. But they decide to let my psn down,it's a business.
If George Hotz loses his civil case there is nothing stopping the DA from filing criminal charges after the fact. Also, if he is found guilty of evidence tampering (hard drives) or perjury (he never heard of SCEA? really?), then he could face criminal penalties.
Correction, it WAS a civil case and in human eyes it still is. However Geo decided to lie and do everything he can to get away with what he did, thus being found guilty will lead to other issues leading into a bigger court case. Since he started a Hacker attack, every step these other hackers take are digging a deeper hole for him. What was simply a fine for stealing and tampering with hardware, has now become perjury, lying in the court of law, tampering with evidence, all the negative effects of these attacks on Sony have and so on. Then to top it off unless he can absolutely prove those donations went into the court case and not his "vacation" to Brazil that will be another issue. Bottom line I hope Sony slams the hammer down on him and the court allows it. This way all these other noob hackers quit it, and stop giving their hacks to kids that ruin online games.
Anon (yಠ,ಠ)y y u no good to me?
I'd like to see legit homebrew on PS3 not pirated software. I agree that Other OS should still be there. Yet you stop me from talking to and seeing my kids on PSN chat before their bedtime when I'm working away from home. They were excited about showing their Mothers Day cards they made too. So Yeah nice, mess normal lives up why don't you, that will help your cause. I hope you're happy 'cos I sure as hell aint....
Don't forget why the other OS was removed.
Are some people on the net really that butthurt that I see a wave of articles who are feeling bitter about Anonymous' actions? Really sad in my opinion. It's just videogames.
ERH!? "It's just videogames".. Then why the heck bother? While it seems they can do so much more on other serious topics in this world.
Well, anonymous always attacks anyone who tries to significantly suppress freedom of information. Like with Wikileaks and with Egypt. This time they identified Sony as a target. Some of them probably couldn't care less about videogames or PSN. They are just DDoSing Sony's servers because that's all they usually do. Attack servers. As for this surge of articles whose ranters seem to be both bitter and confused about Anonymous' actions, the fact they bothered writing about their "frustrations" is why I call them sad. You couldn't access PSN for an hour? Get over it.
sit down. seriously, just sit the hell down. people aren't butthurt as *you* claim. like i said, i don't care what beef these guys have with sony but when they mess around gamers, that pisses me off.
You just admitted you're pissed off and you bothered to reply to my comment. Meaning people ARE as butthurt as I claim. At least be honest.
s speaking up for gamers and the fact that these guys are doing something illegal is being butthurt. what nice logic you have. /s
Logic is what you lack my friend. They are not butthurt. As much as you may think they are deranged they think they are fighting for a cause. That's different to crying over 1 hour loss of PSN to be frank. If you fail to understand this then it's your loss in life.
To be honest its not just videogames when a radical group breaks off and tries to target real life employees, the judge, the sony lawyers and their families. These people are seriously messed up. I bet they get a nerdgasm when they see they did something with their pathetic lives. Yes, I am bitter, they are doing NO HELP and are only annoying every man and his dog.
Targeting lawyers and their families? They've only DDoSed the servers as far as what's been reported, mate. Although, I think in the past they have done prank calls and false pizza orders lol. But I think the aim is to put pressure. Probably if they start prank calling etc it may pressurise the lawyers to quit the case. This happened once in the UK actually. A law firm who were getting personal data from Internet Providers to sue people who were pirating where hacked and then harassed constantly until they gave up trying to pursue their cases. Check out ACS Law firm.
so sony lied?
I completely agree with the author of this article.. He makes alot of sense. Also, I feel sorry for all the PS3 gamers out there who want to play their CoD: Black Ops, Killzone 3 or other online MP titles.. I was planning on playing a bit of MotorStorm: Apocalypse MP earlier today but this shit started.. so I couldn't. =/
I have realized that this generation of gamers are the stupidest ever. How can you look at the disruptive $hit these people are doing and think that they are doing it for us. Do you really believe that this crap is for us? It's for their bruised egos. Sony stood up and told them 'NO!' and they throw temper tantrums and try to convince the internet [email protected]$$es that they are heroes saving them from the 'evil' Sony. But everything they do just causes more chaos not just for Sony but for all of us who just want to play games in peace. No one asked any of you for this. You are just doing it because you can. Why don't you go use your talents to make an honest living instead of treding on everyones toes with your pointless crusades
couldn't agree more, its those people that are bringing down the industry.
I miss gaming before online got involved...
Eamon why you here then?
HE is here for the Cheese and Crackers. We were promised cheese and crackers.
why read the article then?
well said, my friends. im sure many gamers also feel this way.
Once again I side with Sony. Just as I sided with Apple. And I side with Microsoft when they're hacked as well. Never once did I gain from somebody hacking something. But I wouldn't even want to be a part of it even if it meant free stuff because it doesn't intrest me. Hacking is punk shit. It's like I used to think grafitti was cool in this artisitc rebel way being cool and sticking it to the man, but then I grew the fuck up and realize the world is everybody's (not in the way the hackers rationalize it) and resent having to see some losers garbage graf over what is somebody's property. Hacking is grafitti to me. If I bought a hot pink can and a fat cap and took it to the hackers front door and drew a big fat penis I bet they would be pissed. But I bought that paint and can do what I want with it because they can't hold me down and make rules like no painting pink dicks on doors. We all live in this world and the people should have the right to see what I want them to see on the hackers door. -says the hacker mentality now donate money to me because online I had the penis stencil you could download and use to paint dicks for fun.
They are fucking retarded. If I wanted someone to fight for my own rights, I would have boughten a shotgun, gone to Sony Entertainment in Cali and done it myself. Keeping me out of PSN, is not fighting for my right, it's called screwing me over"
Great now my nephew can't play LBP2 with my other nephew and he loves that game and now he's crying you freaking wankers.
Had no problems at all with any Sony sites and I use FireFox. I think this little boy needs to learn is place and Sony will be happy to show him. There is no freedom for being dumb or making threats.
These people want to do good? Bring down major banks that fraud out of it's customers or bring down an entire network of North Korea or Iran.