The company said all three "Halo" games had sold more than 20 million copies. Earlier this year, Microsoft said the first two games had sold 14.8 million copies, which could mean "Halo 3" has sold as many as 5.2 million copies.
How much did it cost to make? Anyone know?
Never mind I found out.
http://www.newsday.com/tech... The total cost to Microsoft for "Halo 3": a little more than $60 million. Development costs will probably be just above $30 million, given an elite team of 300 full-time artists and programmers working for three years on the game at Bungie, the internal Microsoft studio that created the games, said Michael Pachter, an analyst at Wedbush Morgan Securities. Bonuses to key developers and artists will probably add $25 million to the tab, Pachter said. Though about $15 million to $20 million in television marketing will be spent promoting the game, the majority will be footed by marketing partners such as Pepsi, Burger King and Pontiac that want to ride the "Halo 3" hype.
I always wondered...thanks bro...bubble up for you...impressive sales
that is a nice find on the development costs....I am a Halo fan but I have a hard time understanding how 60 million was spent on this...it seems as though 30 million was spent on marketing and only 30 million on the actual game...maybe I was just expecting a lot more than what I got....
before I get flamed....I have almost all the achievements for Halo 3 so I have seen almost everything the game has to offer....
Halo 3 has broken the record books in sales. But what about the X Box 360 sales???
"$30 million, given an elite team of 300 full-time artists and programmers working for three years "
Bullshit. That would be $10 million a year divided amongst 300 employees, which would mean a yearly salary of $33,333... which is slightly less than the USA average salary. Seriously, that has to be wrong... I doubt that artists/developers get paid so little for what they do. They were in charge of Microsoft's and Bungie's most important project EVER, and are highly trained and specialized programmers/artists. I seriously doubt that, unless they (The employees) were all Bungie stockholders, are paid so little.
It's not that Halo cost a lot more than 30 million, it's that Halo didn't have more than 120 employee's. Which would be an average salary of about 90,000 (for 3 years) or so, which sounds about right for those kinds of employees. Halo cost $30 million.
I suspect that Halo 3 will be the first "next-Gen" game to sell 10 million copies. Props to Bungie and Microsoft for delivering on the hype.
Yes it is.
Considering neither Halo: CE nor Halo 2 sold 10 million, I think the 360 is going to hard pressed to do so with a smaller install-base.
Is the quality of the game. Yes the gameplay is great but, what the heck happened to the graphics?? especially co-op splitscreen. WITH ALL THE HYPE it SHOULDVE been better. While you guys say its about the gameplay more so than graphics, i agree. BUT, when Resistance came out for the PS3 the game has GREAT gameplay but xbox fans chose to rag on its graphics (which aren't that far from Halos, even the character models on Resistance actually look better with better expresions). UM did you guys know that Resistance co-op splitscreen COVERS your HDTVs widescreen aspect ratio unlike Halo 3?? I'm sorry to bring this up but i'm REALLY mad. I bought a 360 (an elite at that to match my TV and PS3) just for Halo and it left me very unimpressed (only reason i'm keeping it is because all my friends have it until they get a PS3) WHAT THE HECK WERE THEY THINKING?? Halo 3's most attractive piece is its MULTIPLAYER and they can't even get that right! UNBELIEVEABLE! 5.2million?good for them ...but....Halo 3?? not that great for us (which it SHOULD'VE been). thank you for your time.
EDIT: How am i getting disagrees?? Play the damn game in co-op splitscreen on a Widescreen HDTV and tell me that's not what happens?? In one of the levels, the damn grass was growing as i was walking! (i don't know what that term is for games but it doesn't make the game look good)
EDIT 2: Damn fanboys, disagreeing at the truth.
5.2million is practically half the install base. One of every two person bought the game? I'd like to see how many consoles were sold this month because I suspect that we'll see close to 50% bought this game and I'm not so sure if that's a good thing from a broad demographic of an audience as this was meant to be a system seller. Great stuff for Bungie but I doubt Microsoft would have sold more than 400,000 consoles this month.
It would be a negative if hardware sales do not impress as the suggestion that "most who wanted the game already had a 360", although not entirely true, could possibly have some a great sense of truth in it
if they sold over 400,000 that is very impressive...they weren't selling that the month before, right?...Holiday 2004, with the release of Halo 2, was the first and only time the Xbox out sold the PlayStation 2 in unit sales in the US for the Christmas season..so trust me, it sells systems...come back after December 07...you have to look at Halo 3 not by just blockbuster sales, but the attention that it gives to the Xbox brand...it may be a billion dollar franchise, but man is it worth a couple more for Microsoft as a company...
I don't deny the figures are impressive but these are short-term. The only issue I had with Halo 3 in regards to the industry was that Xbox supporters were speculating how well it would for the machine in terms of new hardware sales. It's not about how much in software terms but hardware terms. If hardware terms are not impressive even in this month, then there can be two possibilities as it already has sold 5million.
1. Practically 1 in 2 Xbox 360 owners purchased the game.
2. Alot of people who do not own an Xbox 360 purchased the game whilst waiting to save up for the console.
The first is more likely to me. But it all depends on the hardware sales for the same time frame as the 5million software titles being sold. If MS sold a significant amount then the suggestion that "most who wanted the game already own the console" was unwarranted but as far as I'm concerned this will be answered in about a month or two.
Do you understand what I'm getting at? With the current hardware figures, 1 in 2 own the game. These hardware figures need to be substantially increased to dismiss that ratio.
my question is what did you expect Halo 3 to do in about 3 weeks for the 360? The game released on September 25...I say give it time...360 sales are not going to magically rise a couple million units overnight just because Master Chief is in the stores...if they sale on par with the Wii or more this month, I will be impressed...nice little victory...but November is far more important, and December is the month of all months...according to NPD, the PlayStation 2's highest December was 2.7 million in the US alone! 30 days almost 3 million...dude, that is Michael Jackson Thriller numbers...will one of the big 3 ( Wii, 360, PS3) do that this year? It might be a little more building before something like that happens again...and the PS2 was selling Holiday numbers all year long for YEARS (Wii if they keep up current momentum, I don't know and can't tell)...they had unprecendented success...I think people might have their expectations a little too high, too soon for 360...we'll see...the original Xbox did over 15 million in the US, by the way...and we all know what the original PS1 did by now...so Sony was riding a wave when they launched PS2...time will tell...rant away Meus, you're the man...lol
Hmmm. It is short term numbers, which make it even more impressive. Going through the holidays will still be a short term mark and which will be a more accurate story. Which I see a lot more game aand console sales to increase. I would be very suprised if Halo 3 a system seller. One thing that reflects this is 360 sales being boosted. If you average it out with thegame being release on the 25 of Sept and these numbers are for 4 Oct which is about 10 days and 300,00 to 400,000 consoles sold. Hmmm that means the game should help around the same console numbers every 10 days with of course a decline (becuase the Halo hardcore have already brought the game). But there will be another spike after Thanksgiving and right before Christmas.
Yes in such short time the SALES are impressive. BUT word of mouth is one heck of a sales pitch and people are pissed that Halo 3 is NOT what it SHOULD have been. My verdict? Halo 3 sales MIGHT not reach 10 million, not with a great lineup of FPS's coming out soon...guess which one? CoD4 and Haze.
I WISH COD4 is better than Halo 3...I've finished the fight, and I enjoyed it, so what's next, ya know?...but the sales of Halo 3 is something else...a whole nother beast...over 1 million will buy COD4 on the 360 very soon, of course...but 5.2 million in 3 weeks...heck no...I love Halo 3 as a brand because it gets people interested in 360...and Gears of War, the first game I ever played on my 360, will always be special to me...I love it...
I have a good feeling CoD4 and Haze will both be great games. Better than Halo 3?? In sales no, in quality?? I really think it will be, Halo 3 isn't that much better than other shooters today, honestly, It's even barely better than Halo 2. It's just the name and it's history (being the 1st really good console shooter). But in this day and age, Halo 3 did not overly impress anyone. If they said it did, they must not have played other shooters ever in their life (or they're blind fanboys). But yeah bro its nice that Gears brought some great gaming for you. Resistance brought that joy to me when i got it.
Heres a little question for you.....Gears or Halo 3?? Which do you like better?? i should start a poll for this....it would be interesting.
you're right, I totally agree...Halo 3 single player, though polished and balanced, with great music, is not the "end all be all" of shooters...I definitely didn't go into it thinking that, however...its a relaxed, chill, and in more ways than less an enjoyable campaign...NOW the question, Is Gears better than Halo 3...look at my avatar...heck yeah...I haven't played Resistance yet, I wanted UT3 to be my first FPS on PS3...Epic has won me over...you enjoyed Resistance? start a poll bro, it would be interesting to see Gears vs. Halo 3...people can't get mad, both are on the 360...what game are you looking forward to the most on PS3, by the way...
I do agree with you man, Halo 3 single player (even if its online co-op) is great, i like it. the game is a 9/10 for me (i really dont like the sound effects that much, the music is awesome 10/10, but the assault rifle sounds like it has a silencer on it lol, wtf?). But i'm just REALLY pissed at the split screen co-op i can't believe MS would even allow that honestly. I love playing co-op and that's why Halo 3 gets a 7.5-8/10 from me. Anyway, yeah bro Resistance is a great game. Online is insane! My only gripe is that my friends and i can't play online on the same console (they'll fix that in Resistance 2). Warhawk also bro is one heck of a game. Look into that one if you have a PS3, just rent the game and you'll see what i'm talking about (but i must advise you, the controls do take a little time to get used to but, once you get it, it's really really easy). Most anticipated games for me this year...Haze, Ratchet (never played them but i hear nothing but good news) and Uncharted for the PS3. sadly UT3 doesn't come out until next year though.
yeah, it's Uncharted for me on PS3...my bro owns the PS3...I'll be getting one of those 40GB's come Drake's Fortune...on the 360, at the very top of my list, is Mass Effect...Uncharted and Mass Effect both release on November 20, so good times...I've never played Ratchet either bro...so I am kind of excited for it, I must say...something different...yeah, UT3 is next year... but I'm in denial cause Mark Rein said "maybe" this year...lol...is GT Prologue coming for the US? would definitely get into that...yeah bro, people keep saying, WarHawk...WarHawk, so maybe when the price drops a little...I love a challenge...back on topic...Halo 3 is ultimately a 9/10 for me...I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but the story was satisfying in a calm kind of way for me...put me in a relaxed mood...like I said very balanced and polished...and I didn't get a scratched disk and no hiccups whatsoever, so all is good...lol...can't complain...and have you seen or played Lair? I'm almost curious to see it in a "so bad its good" b-movie, cult classic kind of way...reminds me of Altered Beast from the Genesis era...almost a 'tech demo' for things to come on PS3...
To quote Darth Vader:
"Impressive. Most Impressive."
My question is, out of these 5.2 million - how many of these actually play on LIVE? I'd give it about 20-40%, have yet to see 1 million playing Halo 3 online.
hmmm.. when I played it at my friends house... It was over a million..
maybe just the time of day.
this past weekend over a million people were playing the whole weekend. i guess you gotta wait until the weekend to see everyone playing
Well I did say "I" have yet to see it myself XD.... Not everyone is online ofcourse and I know people who I don't quite understand in not getting on LIVE to play Halo 3 matchmaking. Biggest I've seen was around 600k so far.
at once 1,200,000 people playing. Considering not everyone plays at once and that is a second of a stat update then that is freaking huge.
/agree with BlazingProphet....I have seen way over 1 million over the weekend...
check www.bungie.net there is a running tabulation of people playing all the time.
it still in the wrapping....and everytime i look at it... the theme music plays in my head......
I got Tenchu and Blue dragon still sealed...
damn school.... i dont have time for games.... but i do have time for this because I'm always doing homework on Computer.
Now, when does Crysis come out?
Future DLC will keep this title going and will reach 10 million sold. I can't wait to see if the supposed universal clan XBL Blade is real, hope its real, we'll see in the fall dashboard update.
I see what you're saying but its very hard to tell just how many 360's sold because of Halo3, 1st of all sales have picked up alot since August some of that can be attributed to Bioshock but I bet many people were also thinking about getting 360 at that time to play Bioshock until Halo3 arrives, 2nd Halo3 effect will linger somewhat throughout the rest of this year so a significant percentage of the sales over the next 3 to 4 months will be because of Halo3, remember alot of kiddies want a 360 for Xmas to play Halo3, 3rd actually very very few people buy a console *just for 1 game, but it would be foolish to say Halo3 has not influenced alot of hardware sales already in the months prior to its release and definitely for 6 months or so after its release, either way you look at it I think Halo3 is a big part of WHY the 360 sales are up and at least 5.2 mil PAST or PRESENT OWNERS WANTED A 360 TO PLAY HALO3.
Now finally 5.2 mil sold in two weeks, Wow! and I've seen over a mil+ online on at least 5 or 6 different occasions, the game is hot, some people play it too fking much and they need to get out more, but still all though there are a few assholes almost all the games are enjoyable, now if they just get rid of that stupid ninjaball sh!t, and let me play slayer everytime=
That is true.
but that was like a day after the halo 3 launch, but i heard that best buy was giving 3 free days of xbl to everyone who bought it there.
but yeah this game did sell alot.
this is awesome news for ms!! bungie has to be one of the best buys for microsoft ever! the split between the two will only help. imo halo 3 lacks a little in innovation so a new dev. team will do wonders for the next halo. congrats to ms!!
off topic: Happy Birthday John Lennon, he would have been 67 today
saddens me that he's gone
a little more than 1.1 million on just this past saturday
Somebody dissagreed with my first post thinking Halo 3! an multi cultural phenomena with wide spead appeal crossing many demograpgics will not cuntinue to sell well into the life of the next Xbox as its brethern has done console to console in the past. lol
Halo games in general not just Halo 3 will continue to add un heard of Momentum to the Xbox brand(halo is now the Mario and FF for the Xbox).
Mass Effect and Huxley will be as great in repeating the Halo effect so what if it takes both games to do it.
Bungie's going to make a killing on the Xbox.
As of now Haze is not a 360 game so that game will not effect Jack Sh8T(even if it could compete on the same level). CAll of Duty games do not offer the diverse gameplay that can compete on the scale of Halo 3 lasting longer than the life of the console it was born on).
From my reading and knowing what games are favored Huxley is the only Multi player game that will be able to compete with Halo's deversness(Any FPS that will be able to compete with HAlo will have to be so revolutionary for a console FPS it has to put Halo to shame and Huxley is the only game I know of that can do it from a multi player stand point).
I accidentaly agreed with you while i completely disagree. Want to know which game will put MANY if not ALL FPS games to shame?? You know which one i'm going to say....and yes it is.....Killzone 2. Yeah word is mum on it's multiplayer but with so much budget and hype there's no way Sony will let it fail. Yeah you guys said the first one sucked (i dont know because i never played it) and yeah i can't judge before a game comes out. But the second Killzone on PSP was a success meaning the developers learned what they did wrong in the first Killzone. Just read the previews online, that says it all. Anyway, CoD4 and Haze will be better games dude, believe me. Halo 3 is not 'revolutionary'.
BUBBLE(To ace shooter)
to fix the online services?
Waiting while matchmaking sucks!
They need to come up with a better system.
So let me get this straight. Halo 3 sold 5.2 million units in a week and a half?!?!?!?!? Well it's official then, Halo is the most successful and popular fps on the planet and 360 is definitely going to kill ps3 this christmas and most certainly stay ahead of wii in terms of sales.
Damn, I know sony is over there crying themselves to sleep cuz nobody is going to care about ps3 this holiday but then again there's always next year but I think that with 360s 2008 lineup sony will be crying again next year. Perhaps 2009 will be sony's year.
And once sega and capcom see the sales numbers of Halo3 and 360 as compared to ps3, I feel sorry for all the people who only own a ps3 because they have and will continue to be having a tough time this generation. So sad. No need to list all the problems ps3 owners have to face. Too many anyway.
Good job microsoft and bungie. Keep it up. O and you do know Halo 3 will sell 10 million+ unit probably by the end of next year. How do you sell 5.2 million copies of a game in 10 days. Damnnnnnnnn. Now go steal some exclusives from sony...lol
were Halo fans, and the game's amazing multiplayer mode (and great social aspects) means that it's destined to be a hit on the platform. But this doesn't mean that developers like Capcom are suddenly going to go 360 exclusive. We'll see what the worldwide sales figures are for September, but I'm betting 85% of those copies were bought by the existing userbase, not by people who bought their console one or two weeks before the game came out in response to the release of that title.
i love you for being blunt.
but damn.. stay on topic..
bubble for you. but a disagree.
lol his comment was double-edged. get it?
360 SUCKS...stupid fanboy
WE all know how successful Halo is already like crap these day by day posts of sales of Halo 3 are getting annoying.
and ready for those NPD results
<---points and laughs, now that has to be a kick in the nuts huh Droids?
Well this game I'm sure isnt even close to being done yet, "can't stop the Xbox train baby".
Well...It may not have gotten 5million its 1st day but
5million in 3weeks is still pretty amazing
wierd thing is games like
GrandTheft auto and ect.(will not say the games name because I'll get alot of fanboydisagrees)
sold half that in that same amount of time with a staggering
instealbase(ps2) last gen
considering the fanbase of the xbox 360. imagine the 360 is not yet at the same number as the original xbox so there are probably more gamers that are waiting to make purchases for xmas time.
imagine after the holidays and the halo 3 bundles and a lower price console, whihc ms have yet to match sony on their second price cut.
Wow, incredible numbers......
After the release of Mass Effect, Christmas is going to be even sweeter for Xbox 360 !
i'm not at all a Halo fan but that is VERY impressive
So many people trapped by overrated/overhyped game :(
a PS3 exclusive game do those numbers
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