Side by side video comparison of PGR4 and PGR3 showing the direction in which Bizarre is taking their latest game in the Xbox 360 exclusive racing game series.
i'm confused ... which one is PGR4? The whole time i thought the above until i saw the PGR4 licence plate on the car in the bottom vid. hmm.. ?!?
The one with the motorcyle is obviously PGR4...
PLAYBACK IS OF LOW QUALITY: If the encoded video is of low quality, you'd expect the top screen to still look worse than the lower screen, because both screens are effected by the low quality equally. For example, lets say the top screen is a 10 in graphics, and the lower screen is a 20 in graphics. Now, let's degrade the quality of both screens by 5. The upper screen should then become 5 and the lower screen should become 15. And 5 is still lower than 15 in graphics. Because of this, your eyes should still see that the upper screen as being worse than the lower screen. But because you can't (you really can't at first glance at least), that means that the first gen title and the third/fourth gen title looks similar. Maybe it's because of the limitations of xbox360 that you can't add both weather AND improve car models and lighting at the same time - simultaneously. You have to give and take when the pie is small. XBOX360 AND HI-DEFINTION: There is nothing hi-definition about the xbox360. You talk about 720p and 1080p, but if DVD-9 is really hi-definition, I ask you this -- why would you need HD-DVD or Bluray discs then? Why don't you just keep your old upscaling DVD player and forget HD-DVD and Bluray and watch everything upscaled on your HDTV? Smoke & mirrors. Smoke & Mirrors. Some people refuse to admit that they're just staring into puffs of smoke & mirrors that's fogging up reality because they don't understand technology or because they refuse to admit that they made a wrong decision and want to protect their egos from bruises. FACT VERSUS OPINION: Wageslave, saying your racing game is the best compared to anything on the PS3 is merely an opinion and not a fact. No matter how high the review scores are, to someone else's eyes, they will always think that Mostorstorm or Grand Turismo 5 are better racing games, as I do. You've been backing your opinion with reviewer opinions and calling it a fact. There's no fact. A fact is something that can be proven inarguably false or true by scientific experiments or observation. For example, let's say that you stated, "In my opinion, pigs have been known to fly." That is a factual statement no matter how you word it. It's because it is scientifically provable to be either false or true. You can exam all pigs throughout textbooks and all pigs currently alive and you won't ever see a flying pig so far. Similarly, you can say that a girl that you hated has HIV or AIDS when you know she doesn't. However, it's still a factual statement. You can yank her into the testing room and have her tested. It can be proven scientically whether she has it or not. You can take her to ten medical test centers just to be sure. But to say that PGR4 is better as a matter of fact is not a fact, no matter how you word it or how many other opinions you use to support it. Because if you look carefully, you already have a majority of the people voting disagree on your "fact statement." It is in their opinion that your opinion and the reviewer's opinions are different and is proof that it isn't better than anyting on the PS3. And opinions can change over time. At any given moment, any of the reviewers could think differently based on the mood or other experiences or after a closer observation and then secretly change their "factual" statement one way or the other in their mind at least. I do think that Mostorstorm and Grand Turismo 5 are better than anything on the xbox360 and that's one of the reasons why I refused to buy an xbox360. Understand? If I do believe that Halo 3 and Gears and Bio are perfect 10's and wonderful -- TOO. then why didn't I buy the xbox360 or even buy it for my Personal Computer, since those games are on the PC, aren't they? Those games pretty much received perfect 10's and mean that they are the best games ever made right? READ THIS, XBOTS No. Because it's their opinion. I have my OWN OPINIONS and because it's my money and not theirs, I choose according to my TASTES. My opinion is that I prefer Motostorm, Grand Turismo 5, Resistance, Sigma, GRAW2, MGS4, HAZE, and Ratchet & Clank, and that's why I bought my PS3 -- in addition to free online, high quality (not low quality) Bluray and DVD playback, and PS2, PS1, and PSN features (since I skipped the PS2, PS1 eras, SACD playback, seemingly indestructable hardware, quiteness, sleek black design that blends into the night when watching movies or playing games with the lights turned off, motion sensing controls, beautiful design, one piece design, linux computer, folding to help society, its potentials, its environmental friendly materials that's safer for humans and the environment, the Sony brand name, and the fact that the PS3 plus my computer can become a custom built XBOX360. All of which the xbox360 lacks. Why would I buy an xbox360 for Gears or Bioshock or Halo if I don't like those games? I should buy it because somebody else likes them and gave them good scores? I don't think so. PS3 + PC computer = XBOX360 Most people who buy a PS3 first will rarely need to buy an xbox360, but most people who buy xbox360's first will most likely feel a desire for a PS3 at some point. Only one of the main reasons is that most of the games worth having on the xbox360 are going to be ported to the xbox360 (GRAW2, NGS, Oblivion, COD4, Fight Night3, DEVIL MAY CRY, and so on) or they will be available on the PC in almost everyone's homes -- such as Halo, Gears, and Bioshock the PC version. XBOX360 owners can pout and flame until their face turns blue and faint, but in the end, we PS3 owners made the right purchase. And we know it. Here, this video is of low quality too...The Grand Turismo's are not even finished. Grand Turismo 5 http://youtube.com/watch?v=... http://youtube.com/watch?v=... Mostorstorm: http://youtube.com/watch?v=... http://youtube.com/watch?v=... Enough said... PLAYB3YOND
Ok ,that right above me is a PS fanboy. He just dosnt spam it. The video is about comparing the games graphics. Not how people that buy a ps3 and a PC wont need an xbox. I need a name for a PS bot??? any one got one?
Wow Secret Kinda extreme huh? I am a PS3 fan too but no matter what you post they wont care man. All in all 360 fans are right on some things. Lack of games and delays left and right suck. However the ones that are blind to the PS3 potential i.e. looking at Wardevil and GT5 need a good skull smashing. At the current moment they have 3 REALLY good games. Well 2(Dont much like halo myself) imo but still 3 AAA titles we cant touch Gear, Halo3 and Bioshock. Still though down the line I think many will convert. No point in all that man. Its a good post but yeah. @ Gondee If I think of one I'll let you know. "Xbot" is pretty good "Playbot" and "Botstation" aint that good... Ima go play Phantom Hourglass. If I think of one I'll PM you...
There is nothing more pathetic than a "Droid" from a Star Wars movie accept Jar Jar, there purpose is to be cannon fodder "training" for the hero Jedi. Everything they do, their whole existance is to do whatever the emperor/Sony tells them even the lies and promises. In the end they lose and are pushed into galactic garbage pits of overpriced promises and lies.
ITS OFFICIAL THE 360 CONSOLE IS MAXED... Man was everyone just flat wrong. From developers, to analysts, reviewers.. Going to be funny watching everyone buy the Ps3. Cant wait to see all the justifications.. OWNED.. Ps3 wins. Gt5 spanks this sooo bad.. I mean its not even fair. Then add 1080p 60FPS to the mix... LMAO Atleast you have the scaler........................ ........ lmao
PGR3 looks better IMO.???? hehehe... eh? Oh yer and that doesnt even sound like an F430?
So which of your questions do you want answered first? =/ ...
Well there you have it they haven't improved $h1T.
The shadows n the first video looks much better.I cant see much else.
though, not really big difference. p.s. PGR3 was in 600p. PGR4 now in 720p i think.. well probably because of that, not big difference on 372x288 video.. =)
but this didnt really show us anything. this PGR4 is all about a new weather system so I would have liked to see that, plus the bikes would have been nice to see as well. Not to mention the video quality of this capture wasnt the best so hard to really see if PGR4 has any graphical improvements... Based off that video...they looked like the same game. Not a ringing endorsement if you ask me to buy the new one. Show me the weather ...show me what makes this game different.
wow talk about no noticeable difference they really got to try harder for my 50$ edit guess Ill have to see it RL to tell also should say that 3 was and still is one of the greatest racers ever so I guess they could only improve so much...
Quality looks so bad you can't even tell the diferences. pgr4 has more going on in the paint. Comparison is a joke. Sony fanboys need to stop the hating although this is getting mixed reviews Sony fanboys are still attacking it because they're threatend by its graphics. The weather adds so much to the gameplay. This is a pic of my racing in PGR4 two days ago.(I'm driving that car in this pic, PC doesn't even do this justice you should see this in HD on a LCD). Video's a joke I'll be suprized if a Sony fanatic did not post this.
This site needs a serious dose of reality. Project Gothum Racing 4 has a 8.6 / 10 on Metacritic. That makes it the 4th best racing game on Xbox 360. But better than EVERYTHING available on PS3 or Wii (just to mention for completeness). The very _WORST_ review, is a 7.5. Its a pretty tight pack of reviews, averaging to 8.6. Next Generation Racing Games IN ORDER BY SCORE: Forza Motorsport 2 9/10 (Xbox 360) Burnout Revenge 8.9 (Xbox 360) Project Gothum Racing 3 8.8 (Xbox 360) ** Project Gothum Racing 4 8.6 (Xbox 360) ** Sega Rally Evo 8.4 (Xbox 360) DiRT 8.3 (Xbox 360) Need for Speed: Most Wanted 8.3 (Xbox 360) Test Drive Unlimited 8.2 (Xbox 360) (NOTICE THE CHANGE HERE) Motorstorm 8.2 (PS3) DiRT 8.2 (PS3) -- LESS than the Xbox 360 Version. Grand Turismo HD 8.2 (PS3) Sega Rally Evo 8.1 (PS3) -- LESS than the Xbox 360 Version. Ridge Racer(!) 7.8 (PS3) -- Worse than any Xbox 360 driving game available. Excite Truck 7.2 (Wii) Cars 6.5 (Wii) Do you _SEE_ that? There isnt a *SINGLE* PS3 racing game that scores above a SINGLE Xbox 360 Racing Game. Even the Multi-Platform games score worse. Every Xbox 360 racing game -- PGR4 included -- is better than *ANY* PS3 racing game. The Sony Defence Force on n4g, trying to malign Project Gothum Racing 4 is extra funny, there isnt a single racing game on the PS3 that is as good as _ANY_ racing game on the Xbox 360. Thats a fact.
Wageslave, 360 has been out for 2 years, of course its going to have some good racing games. Anyway, the only reason people are talking like PGR4 sucks even though it doesnt is because it sucks compared to expectations. Oh and btw Gran Turismo 3 has a metacritic score of 9.5 which exceeds anything on your list.
Nice post! Yeah these sony kids are just full of jealousy. Saying PGR4 is getting crappy reviews is like saying EVERY ps3 game has crappy reviews considering PGR4 would be the second or third highest rated game on the ps3. Idiots pwned themselves.
PGR3 to PGR4 isn't a big step graphically at all but I was expecting this game to look like the trailers they showed us and it really doesn't. I don't see why Sony fanboys should bash this because its the last one of the series and gt prologue is coming.
That was a great post. I respect the fact that you backed your argument with accurate facts and well thought-out points. Of course the argument is valid that the the 360 has been out for an extra year, but why are the multiports still scored higher on the 360? Would that EVER have happened when there was a port from ps2 to xbox1? No, I don't think so. The xbox1 would have had better graphics, gameplay, framerates and so on. PS3 potential indeed ;) Something to ponder there.
PGR4 has more detail, better lighting, weather effects physics on cars not seen in games before, weather effects in environments not seen in games on a console. It has more things going on on the surfaces of the cars. The people on the side of the track are far better, the lighting on buildings is far better, the light from the sun is far better. I tell you why people do not visit PGR4 threads, its because no one gives a fuc what you think the owners of this game play this game and say this is so much fun and look at it saying OMG! Oh my fucing god. PGR Nations 4 ever.
The ferrari doesn't receive any lighting from the environment it is in. The shadow passes from the trees are BAKED into the ground. Just watch the first few seconds of the video to establish that. The porsche is actually getting lighting from the environment. When it passes under a shadow, that is applied to the car. Unlike in PGR4.
Whoops!, best car sounds and ingame environmental sound i'v ever heard in a racer.
Dude, then GT would change your world!
The ability to spectate or participate in Live games streamed on Gotham or Forza TV. The second is that their cars' engine sounds come from real life samples meticulously recorded from eack of the included cars. Forza's sounds are so extremely detailed that evey stage of intake or exhaust modifications are reflected in the cars' sounds on the track.
i only have about $100 to spend...shud i get PGR4 or NHL 08????? blah...ill end up getting both anyway time to go play PGR4 demo..maybe thatll chnage my mind
played it today .. graphics are bad. jaggies all over the place. snow looks better in Sega Rally. Sound is nice. my score: 7.5/10
I see you post all the time with never anything positive to say about the 360. generally it's quite nasty. Are you sure you are playing PGR4 on an XBOX 360?
OMG! Dude you don't own a 360 your just a Sony Troll and you've probably never even played a 360 get over yourself!
I've seen this guy get called out numerous times. I've yet to see him fess up and give a gamertag. Until he does so I will label him a coward and a liar. <ed.> Did you by any chance play this while your console was online, and had a gamertag? If so fess up.
i can play a game without owning a 360 - i sold mine after playing Halo 3's campaign. it's my personal opinion and i give a fvck if some guy at a website tells me something different. for example i love Lair's controls + graphics - not because i'm a fanboy (i have to sell 360's to customers every time) but because i think the game is nice to play. a lot of customers are dissapointed by Halo 3 so who cares about perfect 10/10's?? back on topic: PGR is definitely not the best looking game out there and for me, nothing can beat Motorstorm with it's intense gameplay. so please, enjoy PGR 4 - i'm looking forward to a real next gen racing experience which i probably get with GT5.
Ummm pgr4 has about 9 weather effects that are amazing... thats a big plus in the visuals department. I am very happy with PGR4, overall much better than 3.
I would get PGR4 over NHL to be honest.