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Submitted by doctorstrange 1221d ago | news

PS3 Hacker Who Needed Legal Funds Gets Over $28,000 in Donations

A while ago, PS3 hacker Alexander Egorenkov asked his readers for donations to cover his court costs (he’s getting sued by Sony for working on getting Linux back to the system) and he consequently received $14,000 in just two days. Now, the hacker has received a truly incredible sum of money to continue his fight. (PS3, Sony)

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Shazz  +   1221d ago
theres a lot of stupid people out there it seems , sorry but donating to a hacker /thief/pirate/cheapskate is madness imo . you feel like you have cash to throw away then why dont you donate to a friggin GOOD cause like a cancer charity .
Echo307  +   1221d ago
Or to the Red Cross, or any other organization that is helping Japan right now.
MAJ0R  +   1221d ago
maybe this guy can go on a cruise instead of just going to South America
AntoineDcoolette  +   1221d ago
*walks into article expecting to see a zillion people complaining about how someone else chose to use their money*

*walks out unsurprised*
MintBerryCrunch  +   1221d ago
that is still not a lot of money...if he even wants to employ a half decent attorney willing to take on Sony, he will burn through that money in less than a week just in court fees, attorney fees etc
MaxXAttaxX  +   1221d ago
@AntoineDcolette
People are free to comment and give their opinion on the stupid ways some people waste their money.
It's on topic, after all.
MmaFan-Qc  +   1221d ago
all that money donated to a douchebag instead of peoples who REALLY need it.

good job morons!

i just hope the douches will be humiliated in courts and see the morons who gave them money bitchin about how "crooked" the judges ares and how "unfair" life is..."whaaaaaa whaaaaaaaaa, why cant i leagally steal IP and legally fraud a corporation?"
AntoineDcoolette  +   1221d ago
@ Nathanexplosion
I never once said no one had the right to say what they were saying. I'm just disheartened they wish to dictate others' finances and monetary decisions. If I tithe five dollars to my local church or go out to eat is someone going to call me an idiot and say I should have donated that money towards the Japanese relief effort instead?
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jadenkorri  +   1221d ago
@ AntoineDcoolette

I hope noone would ever call someone an idiot for donating to their local church or to Red Cross or to whom ever it is that's doing a good cause. However donating to a hacker who don't want to lose money in a court case cause he wants to hack the ps3 to pirate games and steal is idiotic. You might as well go find a rapist or a murderer and give him money to help defend himself.
AntoineDcoolette  +   1221d ago
@ Jaden
I wouldn't compare someone who wants to modify a piece of equipment (s)he purchased to a person who took the life of or caused physical and or emotional harm to another. I'll openly admit I used homebrew on my PSP for things such as internet radio but I still purchased the games I played on it.
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Blad3star  +   1221d ago
Donating to Japan would be a better choice.

I have an uncle that is doing some humanitarian work in Japan and the situation is much worst than what we see on TV.

Edit: Disagree all you want but Japan really needs our support.
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nix  +   1221d ago
"I was one of those persons that used Linux on my PS3 and would welcome it back with open arms."

that's why u got diagrees. nice editing.
Blad3star  +   1221d ago
@ Nix what are you talking about? Take your Sony vs MS goggles off for one minute and you will see that those people in Japan really need help.

I really hope that you find some kind of compassion in your heart.

@Hellrazir - I am voluntary member of the Red Cross here in the Cayman Islands and we have taken the unusual step of opening an appeal for the Japanese relief effort despite not having received a direct request from the Japanese branch of the charity. The response from our small island has been tremendous. I do not know where you are from but I advise you to do some research on you community and see what you can give to make it a better place. Something as simple as picking up trash or helping in your local soup kitchen makes a big difference in the world.
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helrazor343  +   1221d ago
Well good for your uncle, but are you doing anything for Japan? I agree they really do need help too, and those donations would better serve in aiding Japan, but what can you do (referring to the frivolous waste of money on these hackers "cause", lol)?
Quartx  +   1221d ago
Blade you did a stealth edit. >_>
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pixelsword  +   1221d ago
I stabded 20 jillion goat poopz and I needz 100,000 dollars or they will jal me for doing something I agreed not to do when I accepted their terms so thanks for bailing me out of the trouble I caused for myself by breeching teh contract.
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ilikecookies  +   1221d ago
You only agree to the contract when you make an online account. TANKZ FOR BEING TEH F@1LZ
pixelsword  +   1221d ago
"A while ago, PS3 hacker Alexander Egorenkov asked his readers for donations to cover his court costs (he’s getting sued by Sony for working on getting Linux back to the system)..."

Even if he didn't make an online account, if he was working on someone's PS3 (which he wasn't) they would have an agreement and he would be an accomplice.

He can't work on getting it back on the system if he never had it removed from his PS3 himself.

He himself said he was reverse-engineering it which is against the ToS of the hardware, not the PSN.

Tanks for being teh logick.
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Eamon  +   1221d ago
I donated money to various charities. I've also volunteered on tubes and trains with charity buckets asking for people to donate change.

So that means I can donate money to this hacker's legal fund, right?

Exactly. That excuse is rubbish. Just because you don't think it's noble, it doesn't mean others don't.
Takoulya  +   1221d ago
What you do with your money is your choice, but hackers running rampant on the video gaming community affects everyone.
Eamon  +   1221d ago
Firstly, people keep repeating this phrase of "Hackers effect everyone." There are many reasons why this is nonsense.

Firstly, each hacker or developer works on their own project. If someone made a cheat program then only that single person is responsible for making it. Not the entire hacking scene.

There are many differing opinions among hackers and developers out there. Some think piracy is wrong while others do not.
A message to you guys; Reading N4G articles is hardly what you call informed. Go and speak to them on IRC channels or forums. Go check out their websites.

As for piracy. The theory that piracy stops game developers making games is very weak as every console still has tons of games released on them. The real threat to the developers is used games as there is significant number of purchases in that market. That is why EA and Ubisoft have tried to implement different ways to prevent people from purchasing used games.

The guy is a single person who is up against an international mega rich corporation. If you believe in fair courts then technically he should have the as much legal funding as Sony does.
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Sarevok  +   1221d ago
Well, someone sure is pro hacker lol...
Eamon  +   1221d ago
Technically, I'm not pro-hacker. I'm just annoyed at the amount of mindless hate I see for these individuals and the mindless love for corporations.

I haven't donated a single penny to geohot or this guy but that doesn't mean I think what they are doing is wrong.
gamingdroid  +   1221d ago
... and I bet you that the vast majority of pirates aren't hackers! Just like the vast majority of internet users are music/movie pirates!

I think we should shut down the internet, because it enables piracy on the scale never seen before. However, I'm sure all you lying son of a b's here think otherwise?

Also every gamer is a violent individual and games should be banned. Period!

Fact is, when the tables are turned people tend to change their tune pretty quick!!!

I think I just about insulted the entire community on n4g.com. That's ok, I only say what I see. Don't like it, that is your issue!
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DeadIIIRed  +   1221d ago
@Eamon kind of agree, but really only the hackers that release sensitive info to the public get ostracized on here. Hackers don't typically stay silent or keep their findings to themselves. Also I'm not buying the whole corporations are evil thing. They're pigs and may have evil people working in them, but they still deliver the products and services you and I use everyday. Good or bad, it's just the way the world is and will be tomorrow.
Eamon  +   1221d ago
They're not evil in the general definition. But they can be immoral. Well, a lot of the business world is immoral. What matters to Sony is their market. They need a stable cycle of consumers who buy the console and carry on to buy the software. A cycle where nobody deviates and does anything they do not approve off such as developing a custom firmware or developing homebrew. All so they can maximise their profits.

Profit maximisation is the issue here.

They aren't bribing judges or have some sort of influence (or at least I hope so) but they are doing their best to enforce laws that do no benefit the consumer. They only aim to benefit themselves. Why? To simply make more money.

This is why it's important that these hackers getting sued get the sufficient legal funding. Because consumer rights are much more important than profit maximisation.
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Takoulya  +   1221d ago
That consumer's rights thing is absolute BS. As many people have stated before, if Geohot or all of these hackers had kept their works to their selves, it wouldn't affect anyone at all. But when they release information and Custom Firmware for everyone, a long battle ensues against hacking causing delayed updates that actually enhance your gaming experience. Also, I know the industry is still going strong after piracy, but that doesn't make it right. If everyone started pirating, it's not like it would still have a small impact. Please stop throwing the consumer's rights thing around like a little child saying "It's a free country, I can do what I want!"
Mahr  +   1221d ago
"As many people have stated before, if Geohot or all of these hackers had kept their works to their selves, it wouldn't affect anyone at all."

And instead, when freed from the mighty chains of oppression, geohot and company chose to share their newfound liberty with their fellow man. Because that's what heroes do.
AhnnQuirajj  +   1221d ago
...Because hackers and cheapskates are the same thing.
ian72  +   1221d ago
I agree. There are better things to donate money to than these people.
I just can't see why anyone would give money to this kind of cause. Some people are really stupid, its like they have money to throw away.
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Theonik  +   1221d ago
To some people donating to a cause which they believe directly affects them, aka, donating against a corporation which they believe is infringing their consumer rights seems like a more relatable cause than helping strangers in some remote country. Not saying their viewpoint is correct in it's entirety but i think the overall logic is right even though they may be slightly naive.
tdogchristy90  +   1221d ago
I agree.

Everytime I hear the term hacker, thief, pot smoker, wiki leaks guy, or any other person using the term donations I find it an oxymoron. The term donation is ment for the red cross, salvation army, ect. Not these "illegals".

Eamon, how do you figure? To give money to someone who is doing something illegal is not a donation in my opinion.
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Eamon  +   1221d ago
You, my good Sir, have rightly earned the award of Most Ignorant Retard of March 2011.

tdogchristy90, how do YOU figure? He hasn't been proven that he did something illegal. Same as the wikileaks guy.
That's why you've earned your award.
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Kishin  +   1221d ago
pls do me a favour and go fuck yourself Shazz, noob.
Scary69  +   1221d ago
What is funny about these morons who donated to this douche bag is that rumor has it he did not use it for legal fees but for a nice vacation spree. Heh
Blacksand1  +   1221d ago
People are stupid. U can say you need money to help beat Sony in court and people send it that will be a good scam if someone use it.
Kamikaze135  +   1221d ago
Maybe I should change careers and live off of donations, lol.
pixelsword  +   1221d ago | Funny
The term you are looking for is "politician".
HolyOrangeCows  +   1221d ago
I bow to the master of awesome comments.

"that might cover his lawyers lunch"
"Poor starving lawyer"
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Like I said....awesome.
Octo1  +   1221d ago
Its fine and all but that $28,000 will be gone in no time.
Lou-Cipher  +   1221d ago
That's one hell of a South American vaction right there ;)
DanSolo  +   1221d ago
Don't be silly.... this one is off to Hawaii! ;)
dktxx2  +   1221d ago
Hell, he can just do both. What's the hurry?
Xfanboy  +   1221d ago
Wow!!! Thoughs ps3 owners are really supportive!! Great job!!

Im sure he took atleast $900 a built a high end pc for battlefield 3!
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Solid_Snake-  +   1221d ago
lol.
solidworm  +   1221d ago
that might cover his lawyers lunch.
pixelsword  +   1221d ago
Poor starving lawyer.
iNFAMOUZ1  +   1221d ago
Notice in a thread about finances you have less replies, what does that tell you? kids are the ones who populate n4g, anyways back on topic, donating to a hacker is as dumb as my ex.
rataranian  +   1221d ago
Isn't this like months old?
SSKILLZ  +   1221d ago
Wait .... So they have money to donate but no money to pay for the shit they steel ? GTFO -_-
pixelsword  +   1221d ago
That's about the size of it.
heylo  +   1221d ago
typical pre-teen donator: "hey Mr h4x0r, here have some money so you can go on with your work and release a CFW so I can play my shitty aimbot-enabled Black-Ops HDD-rip on the onl!nezzzzzz
darkpower  +   1221d ago
And how old are YOU?
AntiHeroComplex  +   1221d ago
most pirates are too cheap to donate. I would venture to guess that it is actually linux users who are giving these guys money.
PirateThom  +   1221d ago
As if there's enough Linux users on PS3 to raise that much money....
Quartx  +   1221d ago
I laughed at the truth to that Thom.
AntiHeroComplex  +   1221d ago
"As if there's enough Linux users on PS3 to raise that much money.... "

Ummm yeah... most linux users hate MS. Thats why they use linux in the first place. Combine that with the fact that there are no good games for linux and you have this end result:

Any linux gamer out there has no choice but to buy a ps3. I know this b/c im a linux user myself and I frequent ubuntu and other forums frequently. Many linux users own ps3s trust me on that.

So yeah laugh all you want, but before you talk nonsense you should maybe give some thought to what was said.
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radphil  +   1221d ago
@AntiHeroComplex

That makes it even more sad that they would go to these lengths to not support in the right context.

You talk of Thom acting as if he talks nonsense, but in an ironic situation you failed to realize that they can use this in effective terms than donating to a random person that they don't even know the true intent of, and for the fact that they "apparently" have so much hate that they'll throw money left and right.

If you have that much seething hate to not even go at this in a clear head, then maybe they need to re-evaluate themselves.
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Loner  +   1221d ago
Good for him.He should be well represented in court.Thats only fair
Thumbs down if you have an emotional attachment to a corporation that doesnt care about you and only wants your money
TheColbertinator  +   1221d ago
lol Look who is talking...
AhnnQuirajj  +   1221d ago
At the end of the day thats what all companies are for anyways.

If you want to put a man in court it would be good to know that he was being fairly represented regardless of whether he's guilty or not. One day it could be one of us accused of doing something and we'd like to be represented fairly, at the end of the day.

Humans suck at democracy :L
Flatbattery  +   1221d ago
Coming from you, who is more attached to Microsoft than your own skin?

Oh! I'm in tears from laughing.
Katana Yamato  +   1221d ago
You're right he should be represented in court, so that means HE should take responsibility and not flip the bill to other people. He knew the consequences and did it anyway. Why should anyone pay for his stupidity in the manner.

He knows that Sony are on the hunt for hackers and misusing the PS3 software is against the Terms and Conditions when you buy a Sony product. Its not about a corporation caring about us, because as much as a corporation doesn't care about us that Hacker probably cares less about us as well. He's doing everyone a disservice including himself. He's not fighting for me nor for anyone, he's just in a long line of attention whores that misuse a companies software for their own selfish greed.

He's going to court for what? Hacking a freaking video game machine simply because you don't want to pay for games that companies spent money and hard work on. Its ridiculous. Especially if you have the means to acquire said games. I'm sure he's not in sum 3rd world country, which i doubt gaming is the first priority in. He's just greedy, its simple as that. Some people are greedy and selfish, that's just how some humans are and hackers like these fit that profile.

And of course Sony wants our money. DUH! They're not a charity they're a business. What did you think they were? Stuff cost money you don't actually thing these games come out of the sky right. It takes money to make these games and people who pay for their games are contributing to the budget of the games we see today. Hackers and Pirates do not. Without the paying customer they would have nothing to hack or pirate with. So i don't thank those hackers and pirates because they're making it worse for us, the paying customer.
Rocket Sauce  +   1221d ago
I wonder how many albums you were downloading as you typed all that.
lee_ten  +   1221d ago
uh...you do the exact same thing sir.
ziggurcat  +   1221d ago
"Good for him.He should be well represented in court.Thats only fair
Thumbs down if you have an emotional attachment to a corporation that doesnt care about you and only wants your money"

... says the xbot troll...
jim00zzxx  +   1221d ago
it's probably LG again, if i was LG and wanted to stick it to Sony i would put these low-life's on the payroll.
Acquiescence  +   1221d ago
Isn't this the guy...
who delivered on his threat of releasing all of his 'work' public if Sony hit him with a civil case? He doesn't stand a chance.
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sourcream27  +   1221d ago
True loser's to the people that donated to this guy. I guess people agree to crimes being commited.
BrianC6234  +   1221d ago
Uh oh. Sony better stop going after this guy. No way they can match his $28,000.
Dart89  +   1221d ago
Wow i guess all the people who donated to this hacker were dropped on thier heads when they were born:p.
Figboy  +   1221d ago
What I don't understand, is that there is ALREADY an organization fighting for consumer rights in the form of the EFF. They're trying to get the courts to amend some of the more ridiculous aspects of the DMCA.

Why didn't those people supporting GeoHotz, give their donation to the EFF?

I think it's very telling that the EFF didn't touch the GeoHotz case. They are usually really quick to get behind these sorts of lawsuits, yet they didn't touch this one with a ten foot pole.

The way I see it, the donations to Hotz were pointless, not because the intentions of the donations are pointless, but because Hotz has been acting in such a way as to undermine his ENTIRE CASE, thus making it a fruitless gesture to even BOTHER to support this idiot.

Before his current shenanigans, his case could have gone either way. He could have one no problems.

With his latest behavior, he's looking worse and worse in the eyes of the judge. Even though his vacation may have been planned in advance, the fact that it's happening in the middle of litigation, and, instead of doing the responsible thing and cancelling the vacation, he's like, "herp derp, it's spring break! i wanna have fun, hyuck!"

He is still living in this deluded la la land where the real world will bend to his whims. The real world won't wait for him to "grow up." He's 21 years old, FAR from being a "kid" as people love to call him. He's an adult, and he's just as susceptible to adult laws as the rest of us.

Cancelling his vacation certainly would have sucked for him, but hey, us adults are often forced to do a LOT of things we don't want to do in the name of being responsible. GeoHotz can't hide behind the "I'm just a kid!" defense for long.

He lost a LOT of points with his supporters AND the judges that may have been more sympathetic to his cause (after all, he's a 21 year old man being sued by a multi-BILLION dollar corporation), but the way he's been treating the whole ordeal like a big joke (such as his snarky comments about getting his hands on the X-peria Play and hacking it), is just foolish and immature on his part. This is not going to end well, that's for sure, and all of this trouble would have been avoided in the FIRST place, had he just kept his big mouth shut and not released those private keys on the internet.

Even the whole donations thing reeks of immaturity, "Hey guys, I did some stupid shit and got in trouble, but instead of owning up to my mistakes and facing them like an adult, I need your moniez to help bail me out! Consumer rights! RIGHT GUYZZ?!"

This should be a lesson in pride and ego to all of us.
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Burning_Finger  +   1221d ago
With that kind of money, he can visit George in south america and get married and live happily ever after.. :)
MRHARDON  +   1221d ago
Dude, its only 26 thousand....its not like he got a million dollers.

Most jobs you get around 30-40 thousand per year. So this isnt even close to a one year salary.
Rainstorm81  +   1221d ago
alot of jobs pay 15,000 and up as well. every one doesnt make 30-40k a year
Xcaliber  +   1221d ago
All the people who are donating to these hackers and pirates should all be punched in the back of the head and made to realize the these fucking hackers made their beds and now these people are paying for it...soon we're gonna hear that this asshole is on vay cay on a tropical island somewhere and saying it was payed for before he was sued....but hey the people in japan don't need anything...this asshole hacker needs it more....
Dart89  +   1221d ago
Totally agree with you man these people must be stupid to donate to to Frodo baggins twin look alike instead of people in japan who really need it.

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Krimson-Rage  +   1221d ago
My dad's had a stroke and we need professional carers to come in twice daily, but because he has a pension we have to pay for this out of our own pockets.
I wonder if these low brow flunkies would donate any money to us?

Hmmm, don't think so somehow.
dragonelite  +   1221d ago
Aah i see people taking corporate cock in ass and keep on liking it.

Nice to see people are glad they are lending a console from sony instead of owning. Hell what would you say if a car manufacture sued you because you put a turbo on your car or modify other stock parts.

Same as with microsoft hell did you guys knew you can run linux on 360 if you get the correct one. Probably not because microsoft isn't making a big dramatic elephant from it.

Viva la barbara streisand effect if you have a company later think about it the barbara streisand effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Flatbattery  +   1221d ago
Aah I see someone misinformed as usual.
AntiHeroComplex  +   1221d ago
@dragon elite.

Your analogy is a crock of shit. Ive said it before and ill say it again:

buying custom/performance parts for a car does not in any way damage the car maker financially. If anything the car maker gets to profit from selling performance parts or having show cars displayed to the public by car enthusiasts.

SONY on the other hand will lose profits due to pirating of games that this kid enabled on the PS3.

Here is a more proper analogy that hopefully your limited mind can understand:

I go to a gun store, buy a shotgun . Then i decide that since i own the shotgun i can do whatever i want with it. I go on a rampage shooting all of the merchandise up in the store resulting in financial ruin for the store owner.

Owning something doesnt let you do whatever you want with it. Welcome to the real world chump.
dragonelite  +   1221d ago
Yeah maybe the car analogy is wrong.
But you don't open a witch hunt on some hackers.
It still the end user that pirates and hurt sony.

Im for hacking im against pirating.
Yeah strange shit right. But when you can write your own code or do CS as a study you want to fuck around with electronic and my school even wants that. In our upcoming project one group of students has to research ways to run linux on the 360. Other have to make a Isteamer some wacky steam machine that is connected to the internet.

And still sony could have handle this way better then they did because now a lot of gamers and potential pirates are exposed to it and google it. And find out its extremely easy only thing is a usb stick.
THC CELL  +   1221d ago
Donating to george and his losing battle, what a bunch of mugs some people are. My donations will goto japan anf pet hospitals when I have it
Holeran  +   1221d ago
Fools and their money. Donate to something worth while if you are going to but don't donate to trash.
TheMutator  +   1221d ago
for me that asshole can burn in hell
DFresh  +   1221d ago
What a bunch of dumbasses.

Have these guys not learned what happened when they supported Geo Hot?

The dude used your money to escape from court to South America and buy materialistic crap supporting himself but not the causes you originally donated for which was to get back the Other OS Feature on PS3.

Just burying his own grave.

T_T
ZBlacktt  +   1221d ago
LOL, $28k vs Sony's 40 Billion. Seem Hackers are just dumb trash. Maybe they should go sit in jail with him?
darkpower  +   1221d ago
Well, if all he's trying to do is to get Linux back onto the PS3, then I don't see why all the issue. I just think the PS3 fanboys didn't want ANYONE touching their temple. And this is coming from someone who likes that damn thing. They're upset that anyone took away their political talking point, and are wanting them to burn for it. I bet half of the people talking shit on Hotz and this guy could actually care less if it was hacked or not as long as the cheating element wasn't in place (which it isn't).

Keep in mind, too, that Linux never did enable piracy because it didn't utilize what the PS3 needed to run the PS3 games. Just something to think about there.

Oh, and LOL at those who would love Sony to win by draining this guy dry of funds. Sony wouldn't have to actually PROVE anything there! Maybe those calling for hacker heads know they could be beaten. Any means necessary, I guess.
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Flatbattery  +   1221d ago
Hmmm! They say they are crusading to get Linux back, yet it was their activities that got it removed in the first place.

They also claim that all they want is the ability to run homebrew, yet it was already enabled with Linux.

So it's clear that while they were hacking when Linux was enabled, they must have been up to something undesirable.
ziggurcat  +   1221d ago
darkpower:

1. the initial hypervisor hack was to allow for more access to the PS3's hardware through linux. that would have easily translated into piracy through linux.

2. it was this hack that resulted in the otherOS feature being disabled.

3. i would love for sony to win in order to set an example to all of the snot-nosed morons thinking that it's okay to break the law.
GigaGaia  +   1221d ago
You people haven't realized two things.

First, Geohot didn't run away, he is taking a vacation he planned since november. The guy doesn't want to let some lawsuit he is obviously gonna win run his entire life.

Second, the guy in this article didn't do any piracy, all his work is Linux related. Next time, before bashing him, how about you inform yourself.
Xcaliber  +   1221d ago
Oh your right he didn't "run away" just conveniently after getting a bunch of donations he is in south America and how exactly do you know he had this planned...cause he said so. Don't be so naive and didn't he release the code that pretty much unlocked the ps3. Man quit being this guys butt puppet....not directed at anyone personally but all the idiots defending George
Rageaholic  +   1221d ago
Or why not donate to more recent events that really need money JAPAN
beavis4play  +   1221d ago
so the guy "says" he got 28k and everyone believes him?

it's hard for a legitimate charity to get 28k in donations - i find it difficult to believe this boob got that much to defend his actions.

btw - if he did get it? look for him to be taking an around the world trip.......previously planned and paid for of course (wink, wink)
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