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Socom 4 Forums Loaded With Hate

The beta for Socom 4 was recently released for private testers and Playstation Plus users, and while they are not at liberty to disclose much info about the game (Non-Disclosure Agreement), it's not hard to tell that hardcore fans aren't happy.

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DangerTick4775d ago

I'm a hardcore fan of Socom and I'm happy with Socom 4. It's a noticeable improvement but of course you'll see a bunch of asshurt fanboys crying over minor changes (kind of like when Sonic fans cried because they changed the color of Sonic's eyes).

WildArmed4775d ago (Edited 4775d ago )

lol,

Regardless of what I think of SOCOM.
There are two types of haters on the forums:
1) The people actually do not like the game; for good reasons ~10% of the haters
2) The people think that hating on the game is cool, because you know, obviously someone took the time to make up good excuses to hate the game ~90% of the haters

Funny business.
no change/innovation = bad
change/innovation = bad

Zipper had it coming either way, and it's not really fair.

Classic mode in SOCOM 4 is pretty neat -- been playing suppression and data uplink since march 15th.
And the 5 player co-op looks even better

JBit924775d ago

I'm addicted to Classic mode

im-12-years-old4775d ago

Nice, I like to make up statistics too!

Dart894775d ago

Can't please them all hell all those damn haters should be happy they even decided to make socom 4.

theonlylolking4775d ago

The people who I are playing the beta say it is awesome but the people on the forums are hating it.

ivant4775d ago

I'm not a hater

I just don't see that point...

Of what I've seen of the mp gameplay, it's just a prettier TPS version of MAG.

Would have been better just to do a MAG 2 with massive improvements...including adding fully usable tanks, choppers, jets.

saf1007924775d ago

i honestly don't see how its like mag at all? other than graphically it plays totally different

Graphics4775d ago (Edited 4775d ago )

I can say the same thing for socom 4. I don't see how its anything like socom at all. It plays nothing like socom which is why everyone is mad. They just need to release Socom 2 HD, I won't even ask for a remake of Socom 2 from them, cause knowing them they'll turn the S2 remake to another different game again... Socom fans are mad because Socom is not socom anymore it's something completely different now.

saf1007924775d ago (Edited 4775d ago )

it plays like a socom to me.. not quite two or three but i'm still having fun with it. And for those people who just say remake S2 i think its bs. They all say that until they actually play and remember all the glitches in it and the fact that u can't run and throw a nade

MysticStrummer4775d ago

I'd rather they just modify the way choppers and troop transport planes work than make them controllable.

I'd like to see multiple spots where the choppers could go, instead of the automatic places they go when the AAA goes down. The Platoon leader or OIC could pick the spot, then the chopper would fly in like it does now. The miniguns could automatically fire at enemies as it flies over, or players could work the guns. The platoon leader or OIC should also be able to have a little control over where troops parachute in.

Maybe if two platoons are doing well side by side and both knock out their AAA, an attack chopper could fly in and patrol between the two, with players controlling the guns. I wouldn't add tanks unless they make the environments at least somewhat destructible, and I wouldn't add jets unless... yeah I just wouldn't add them.

I'd like to see squad leaders get more than one waypoint to use, and those waypoints should work like Frago points, so maybe more people would pay attention to them. 3 waypoints would be nice. Also, in Suppression the squad leader himself should be a Frago point. It might not be bad for the squad leader to be a walking Frago point in all modes.

Those are my ideas, beyond the obvious ones... better animations, better sound, more weapons, more customization, more maps, whatever graphics improvements they could make.

I like the existing modes, including the DLC, but I think there should be a Capture the Intel mode with all 3 PMCs trying to steal intel that randomly spawns somewhere in the level.
Also... night and day versions of the maps. Maybe a transition from night to sunrise or day to sunset while playing.

I just don't like player controlled flying vehicles because players don't usually convey the illusion that they are the kind of expert pilots these PMCs would use. It's bad enough to start a round of Interdiction and watch the friendly APCs crash into each other and block the road for the ones behind.

Damn. Long post. I love MAG. lol I've said it many times on here but MAG is the only online FPS this generation that has held my interest and keeps me coming back for more. I can't wait to play Socom 4, I just hope they add in some of the old modes. At least Demolition and Extraction.

MysticStrummer4775d ago

Everyone I know in the beta is loving it. Haters hate. Whiners whine. Gamers game.

MysticStrummer4775d ago

Indeed. I'm sure many here would call me a fanboy, but of course I don't see it that way. I'm just a more discerning consumer. lol

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SOCOM Confrontation, SOCOM 4 and MAG servers shutting down in January 2014

Original-Gamer.com: "Sony has decided to shutdown the servers for SOCOM Confrontation, SOCOM 4, and MAG in January 2014. SOCOM 4 and MAG were developed by Zipper Interactive while SOCOM Confrontation was developed by Slant Six Games."

Abash3929d ago

Very sad to hear, hopefully Sony continues SOCOM and MAG on PS4

BiggCMan3929d ago

MAG is not even too old yet, this doesn't make any sense. It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans, even one of my friends recently got back into it. Hell even Confrontation has a pretty decent sized dedicated player base, I think only 4 is pretty deserted.

This really makes no sense, the games aren't old. They better be making new games in the future at least.

HammadTheBeast3929d ago

Come on now, MAG's pretty old, their new console is coming out, and there's only about 5000 individual players coming on every month, if that.

It's run its course, a fantastic game while it lasted. Hopefully, we can get a few massive battles in before the servers close, knowing the community, I expect it.

Also, a lot of MAG is on Dust 514 now, which isn't amazing, but is still alright.

kwyjibo3929d ago

It makes sense.

MAG is no longer selling, so Sony is making no money from it. In fact, it's costing them money to keep it alive.

Maybe with PS4 pay-for-online and microtransactions (read: ongoing support), you'll get a better service.

decrypt3929d ago (Edited 3929d ago )

@HammadTheBeast

"Come on now, MAG's pretty old"

No it isnt, you want really old check out:

Warcraft 3, Starcraft 1, Counter strike. Then tell me why those games are still running?

Sony closing servers to older games is just a tactic to force users on board their next console.

Its the nature of console gaming, too controlled with console gamers having little to no rights at all. Hell if Sony closes PS3 online services after PS4 launch there is nothing console gamers can do about it.

JAMurida3929d ago

MAG is barely alive now these days. Domination is only playable early AM hours (CST) when the JP players get on and that only last a few hours. Only thing going on is Sabo or Suppression.

Lucky to get an Interdiction or Acquisition going.

Utalkin2me3929d ago

Kind of ironic i recently put mag back in and got all the updates and restored all my skill points. And OMG i could not kill anybody for nothing, it was quite weird. I used to be beast at that game and i went negative for a few games before finally i quit. Felt like i was doing worse for the team then helping.

It wasn't very populated then, but hate to hear that.

BattleAxe3929d ago (Edited 3929d ago )

H-Hour is the new Socom. You can still support the development studio by way of Paypal, and you still get access to all of the Kickstarter rewards, but only until the end of the month.

http://sofstudios.com/index...

H-Hour is set to come out on PS4 and PC.

Corpser3929d ago

@all

MAG was released in 2010, just 3 years ago! You're telling me I should expect online servers to be around for just 3 years?

GasTankKiller3928d ago (Edited 3928d ago )

"It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans."

You only see one side of this. Sony sees the stats of how many players are playing on average. No reason to waste server power for a handle full of people. Yes that handle full could be a few thousand but still.

From what I remember during MAGs development. Zipper was given a blank check and setup a server farm for MAG.

No reason to let all those servers go to waste. They will most likely use them for the PS4.

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GameCents3929d ago (Edited 3929d ago )

Where's the outrage? They effectively saying that you've been renting MAG all this time. Online only games shouldn't have their servers shut so soon.

HammadTheBeast3929d ago

There's about 200 people on at any time now.... and most from the free demo.

Corpser3929d ago

^^

So? You're perfectly fine an online-only game that people are still playing will be shut down

JAMurida3929d ago

#Corpser

Yes there is a community, but a very small one. It's the same case with White Knight Chronicles 1/2. Both MAG and WKC I've played heavy enough to say they had a very small community that most likely didn't warrant Sony paying the money to keep the servers going for any longer. It sucks, but it happens when it's a case like this.

If anything, I'm more surprised that MAG is being shutdown much later than WKC was. IMO, it should of been the other way around.

Sitdown3929d ago (Edited 3929d ago )

Haha, some have no clue of exactly what you just did there. Or am I reading too much into it?

No_Limit3929d ago

In other news, the 2007 X360 online only game, Shadowrun, is still playable on its online server. This show where the priority is for both companies when it comes to online gaming.

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Corpser3929d ago

MAG community is far from dead, why?

And no wonder GameStop has been selling the game used for $0.99. It's an online-only game too

fr0sty3929d ago

It's a shame, I enjoy playing MAG more than just about any other shooter out there. I know many do not agree, as it does have some very obvious flaws, but it's a gem of a game beneath them.

MidnytRain3929d ago

Whoa, a dollar?? Are you serious?

Gridloc3929d ago

That's the only problem I have with digital downloads and multiplayer only games. If they shut the servers down your screwed...

Ray1863929d ago

If it has a lan option you can always use x-link.

fr0sty3929d ago (Edited 3929d ago )

I would hope such a service would work for a game like MAG, enough of the community (that is already dwindling) would need to know about that capability, and actually be bothered to want to try using it in order for it to work. I think it's just going to kill the community enough to make the game unplayable, as MAG relies on very large matches.

SIRHC133929d ago

H-Hour. We need you. Deliver the tactical third person shooter goods that we deserve!

MoonConquistador3929d ago

And in a run up to a sequel they should be giving this game away free on PS+ at least, or just make it a free to play game. Its a game I always wanted to platinum but there are never enough people on for domination games etc

Great game though

MidnytRain3929d ago

I do think Sony is expecting PlanetSide 2 to fill the massive shooter niche.

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Former Sony Devs Join New Team

Announced yesterday, a couple of former Zipper developers are lacing up their boots again in preparation to begin working on new tactical shooter, Takedown.

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astroanthony4327d ago

Thoughts of new development team?

SilentNegotiator4326d ago

They're former Zipper employees.

Expectations at minimal, Captain!

SuperBeast8114327d ago

I was looking forward to that game but now that zipper is touching it? I dont know they been making crap for almost 10 years now Socom 1 and 2 are the only thing good they have done

JoeReno4327d ago (Edited 4327d ago )

i really disagree, Unit13 is still my most enjoyed Vita game yet. it was quite good, and I for one am glad to hear this news.

Sithlord-Gamble4327d ago

My thoughts exactly.

Unit 13 is awesome, and IMO MAG is underrated.

fei-hung4327d ago

I bought Unit13 on release but only started playing it yesterday. I cannot believe how underrated and under appreciated this game is.

This game is not only better than the likes of COD in terms of military shooter, but the stealth gameplay is beautiful! It's like MGS but with a more military feel.

SuperBeast8114327d ago

I dont have a Vita yet so I havnt tried it maybe I spoke too soon I was just really burnt by Socom 4 but Ill try Unit 13 when I have the cash.

ExposingLames4327d ago

i've learned this site is nothing but kiss asses and fanboys so I usually don't even comment anymore. I read the news and leave. Although your comment will be "disagreed" into oblivion it is 100% fact. Its also the reason ZIPPER GOT CLOSED DOWN. I'm sure the lower level workers aren't really to blame, but there is no denying their games and how bad they were and what they did to SOCOM. What a joke. Glad Zipper is gone.

dead_eye4327d ago

opinion can never be 100% fact.

ExposingLames4327d ago

@ dead eye. its not opinion it is fact. go search "sony closes Zipper interactive" it didnt happen because they were making great games.

xursz4326d ago

"Big Huge Games" got shut down as well (I hope they get picked up by a worthy publisher), yet KoA was greatly received. I personally think MAG is definitely underrated too.

t0mmyb0y4327d ago

There's a reason you have so many disagrees XD

doctorstrange4327d ago

"TAKEDOWN will be developed on PC as the lead platform, and then brought to consoles afterwards"

NYC_Gamer4327d ago (Edited 4327d ago )

I'm happy that Zipper developers found new jobs...

GamingPerson4327d ago (Edited 4327d ago )

PC is lead platform then consoles coming after.
so the tags are messed up.

I can't wait to see what David Jaffe does on pc unless it's a facebook game.

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UFreqTV's Episode 13 - 2011 Season Wrap up, Newb Tube and Ghost Recon Bullet Points

In this Episode, Jack is joined by Commander Claymore Fury via SatCom as they discuss the 2011 Tournament Season and what is in store for 2012. The Nuketown Hooligans bring a little Modern Warfare 3 Spec Ops tips and Lt. Leadhead brings us Ghost Recon: Future Soldier