Rumors have surfaced stating that Sony may have yet another PS3 SKU on the way. According to Qj.net, Sony has registered a certain model labeled CECHG06 (160GB PS3), similar to the 40GB PS3's CECHG01.
since the 60GB will be ruled out then im not surprised.
CECHG06 was reported to the FCC? Or was it reported on a quality control agency of a different country?
Sony should seek to standardize their product, not diversify it, lest people who buy the "lower end" PS3's feel they are missing something.
But what do I know, an enterprise as big as Sony should know what's better for it's own.
"But what do I know, an enterprise as big as Sony should know what's better for it's own."
This simple fact is overlooked by so many.
doesn't quite explain why Sony has lost so many format wars.
Why they sold 100 million plus on each of their last consoles.
But it IS standard from a dev point of view (HD) as are all PS3.
And yes I'm a dev.
Just how many format wars has sony lost? The only failed format that I can think of is minidisc. I know people think that betamax failed but the fact is it made untold amounts of money for them since it was adopted as the television broadcast standard.
They just do like Xbox, that have many different models.
What? Are you joking? Sony is the KING of Failed proprietary formats:
Betamax lost to VHS.
DAT - stillborn
Memory Stick is a failure, sony still ramming it down its users' throats.
UMD - see music or movies on UMD anymore? No.
ATRAC - stillborn
Sony Dynamic Digital Sound
Multi-Media Compact Disc
Super Audio CD
Professional Disc for DATA (PDD)
Sony is a laughing stock for trying to lock its customers into closed formats again and again. And it is VERY widely known, I cant believe your trying to say you've never heard this with a straight face. Unless your 8 years old.
if its only an upgrade in HDD then whatever, but different specs will confuse costumers.
the 160gb I guess will go for 600 bucks, but which sku for go for 500?
Are they gonna drop the 80gbs price.
the 80GB for 500$? sounds reasonable. 400$,500$ and 600$.
I thought the whole point of swappable drives was to make it easier for customers to do it themselves. Talk about sony running around like headless chicken, can't seem to grasp its failing fortunes. If they only concentrate on games.
Maybe they streamline their HDD supplier and a 160GB turns our to be whats
1) readily available
2) offers more to the consumer for the same price
3) possibly costs them the same now as the 60 or 80 gb did then.
C'mon I don't see what there is to complain about.
Why not have a ps3 with no HDD since most people change them anyways....and while your at it instead of cutting bc why not wi-fi...this ps3 could be what...350$...yeaa problem is we aint running sony so lets see how this drama all plays out because it makes no sense...if no one buys a ps3 at 80 gig for 600 bucks..who the hell goes out and gets 80 more gigs for maybe more money or even 600 bucks? sony is stuck at bringing in more sku's, instead of giving the consumers what they want.
some hd's simply go away because it costs too much to continue to manufacture the old version of the hd.
Plus the option to change hard drives to allow EXISTING users to upgrade on their own. You dont expect a current ps3 owner to go out to buy a new ps3 when it has a bigger hd.
Plus this can be speculation, it can be more than just a hd upgrade.
Now, even people who are thinking about buying a PS3 are getting nervous.
With so many SKUs rolling out one after another, people are not going to buy right away because they want to wait and see what'll be next.
How many people do you think actually know about this? You make it sound as if everyone logs onto N4G everyday to find out the latest gaming news, and that's simply not the case.
Its making xbox fanboys like urself nervous.
Sony is disoriented. First they talk about how important is backward compatibility for their Playstation brand (as it really is), than they abandon it and excuse is "People dont care about it" Okey....
Then they criticize Microsoft for having to many SKUs (3 at the time) and why they do after 6 months? they do same thing.
What is next? Start charging for PSN?
Dont forget i lost 2 bubbles for bashing Halo 3, so i am not some 360 fanboy.
Your one of the very very few sony fans who see things for how it really is, not like the mindless sony sony drones on this site.
Thats something that most people don't understand. You have to sacrifice to gain...
If they can sacrifice something from their console to lower down the price and if BC is something that is rather not needed then so be it. If more than half the people don't want or use BC, then take it out. Ask yourself THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION: Does the mainstream person want BC in their console or a LOWER price.. I think they will forget about the BC. People are making a big deal out of BC and by people... I don't mean the XBox fans.. or the PS3 fans... ITS NEWS WEBSITES... They are the ones that are blowing this out of proportion and it gets ridiculous.
Bring on the 160GB PS3, I'm sure Sony has some ideas. I HAVE ALWAYS SAID that the PS3 is going the way of the IPOD. With different SKUs... bigger harddrives and lower features and vice versa... A good strategy, but the PS3 needs to establish the widest spectrum. The CHEAPEST it can a console and then bring out the LUXURY one. But its a really tough time to be Sony... They are trying to do 100 things at once.
Poor guy is getting hammered from both sides.
I don't see SKU's being that big of the problem its the, Upgrade - Downgrade - upgrade - downgrade - downgrade.
Cheaper-higher-cheaper-cheape r-higher so soon it could cunfuse people for a spell.
heres a bubble from me
Low price and BC for the 100's of PS2 games they own. I predict this SKU is going to sit on the shelf until another fire sale.
Looks like Sony has lost there MOJO this gen.
the cheapest SKU people r gone get is the 40gig so why not change the top order give them more choices to choose from.
is this really even nessesary?? come on... look how bad the 80 gb is selling.. then add to the mix an even more expensive 160gb one.. if anything they need to sell a ps3 with no hdd or wifi for 300$
Talk about a horrible idea.
yeah and then they could be like the 360 and not allow the developers to casche on the HDD.
whats horrible about that? do numbers lie? ps3 isnt selling. and you know the answer is because its too expensive ....add to that the fact that there are NO games,delayed games,laggy ports..OVER half the games coming out this holiday to ps3 are.
orange box,area 51,strainglehold,skate,unreal tournament 3,fifa 08, tonyhawk PG,
and those are the ones i that i know of are delayed. havent checked for more but im shure there is.
so why isnt the ps3 selling? is it because of the games or the price? its BOTH. the ps3 has no games, they might as well sell it at a discount price like 300$ instead of hiring it and making the 600$ paperweight even more usless than it was at 80gb
you don't ahve to talk out of your @ss just because you have Dr.Phil in your avatar
well come on seriously, think about it... what does sony need to do to sell more consoles... bring out an even more expensive sku?probably at 699$? im pretty shure people holding back on buying a ps3 arent saying.."hmm i wana buy a ps3 but 80 gigs is too little space for me" you know what i mean. people wanting to buy a ps3 are waiting for it to drop price. ps3 is defenetly gonna be in 3rd place this holiday.. making it fall back even further down into 3rd place overall behind the wii and 360..
worst idea EVER!!!!
i agree this lastest sku may be one too many but what you just described would just be a 360 with bluray.
Well that's the perfect SKU setup imo if the 160GB has full hardware backwards compatibility.
40GB - $399 stripped down with no b/c.
80GB - $499 main model and mostly b/c.
160GB - $599 or $699 high end model with full b/c and more ports.
yea 700 seems more like it, since full b/c would add on to the cost of development for this newer sku, but who is really going to attack that, just let us upgrade for cheap
well dosent make sence when u think about it. why would people wana buy a 700$ ps2.....oh yea it also plays bluerays.
I highly doubt that it will be more than $600 bucks for the 160 GB model just think about this for next year. With a $100 drop every year the 40 GB model will be $199 by 2009 or less depending on how and what Sony does with their SKUs. If they change them every year it is unkown what will happen.
The PS3 now either is or will have 65 nm chipsets in them just the same as X360 so it should be much cheaper to produce now and they might could start turning a profit with these expensive SKUs.
when this does roll out, da 160gigs and all, Sony would announce some type of video on demand service, that would accommodate to such a larger drive then any other sku out. who knows
The US new lineup of PS3's:
160gig for 599
80gig for 499
40gig for 399
Who wants to bet?
Sometimes its just better to actually see it all come true then to just spread around rumors.. be we all know they want to get the pricing and configuration down for everyone.
Thanks for Reading
sumone help me i lost count.
20, 40, 60, 80, 160 gb versions.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5... At what point in that sequence did you become confused?
even if this might be true tho.... the bloody thing has 2 hdmi, 6 usb, and 3 ethernet ports, now.... is this the PSX version of PS3, can we burn stuff on it too? its alot of stuff even for Japan
6 USB ports? Sony already realized 4 was overdoing it. That's why they got rid of two for the 40Gb.
2 HDMI ports? What the hell for?
Besides, if you go to the QJ website, almost all credibility of this rumor is lost in the first paragraph when all of the specs come from internet forums.
OFF TOPIC- Doesn't this writer look like Ellen DeGeneres?
Agreed, I don't think Sony should allow itself to be influenced by a software company that understands how to keep up with consumer needs and acts accordingly with appropriate upgrades and changes to products etc at the right times. Sony is testing the waters with tactics its competition has been doing for decades(is upgrading TV's etc the same as changes in consoles on a hardware level so soon, who knows.
More SUK's? No Sony why did you go and have to do this. :(
this is a duplicate story http://www.n4g.com/industry...
the disagrees are funny, read them both, they are the same
Get this right, Too many Changes already..... I'm still buying a 40gig though. Lol
That even if a new SKU comes out that each division (SCEA, SCEE, SCE)has their own control over what is sold in that region. Just because Japan gets a new SKU it doesn't mean we will ever see it in the US or PAL. The same goes for all regions.
my god there better not be 2 hdmi port and 3 ethernet bcuz i spend my $600 on my 60gb ps3 back in april and i am certainly NOT wanting to be under a higher end ps3 for the same price
Remember that you can upgrade the HDD yourself, and use a cheep USB hub to connect many more devices to your PS3 if needed.
IMO Sony isn't likely to release a PS3 server because they sell PS3's at a loss, and the last thing they want is someone buying the PS3 and then NOT buying games.
What will anger a lot of people is if they actually add a ram, cpu, or graphic card upgrade.
Use your common sence. Unlike other models, only the last number here has changed from the current EU 40GB. So maybe this is the US version. If it was 160Gb then it would be like CECHJ06
the room full message of warhawk have been fixed :)
Relates to Asia. Sony will not release another SKU in the Western Market as there is no need for a larger HDD than 80GB. The media service on the PlayStation store will roll out in the Asian market first; thus the larger HDD's on offer in Korea.
Yep yep makes sense. Asians will get the new sku first if the rumor is to be believed.
What's better, a new SKU or a bundle offer?
Sony should release a PS3 party bundle that comes with 4 DualShock3 controllers, 80GB HDD and a few top SP/MP games like Haze (Remember the 4-player coop!) and LBP, possibly UT3 or Warhawk as well.
Release it mid March next year and we have a winner. Maybe 2 controllers rather than 4 but you see where I'm going with this, for those getting a PS3 to play with family and friends only to find out they have to get more controllers... So why not include them in a bundle. Release it for £450 and it'll look very tasty. 2/4 controllers, 2/3 games and an 80GB PS3.
sony is wasting there time with more GB, they need games, not more room.
People take people posting random stuff with no evidence too seriously. Anyone could have started this rumour.
Fantastic Hardware, if price is right I will get this one 160GB my babe :)
If their are higher end specs! If they decide to put Dual HDMI and Dual Gigabyte Ethernet ports on this one, I'll be majorly pissed off at Sony. Because that would make the 60GB the inferior model. I'd feel like 360 owners when the Elite came out, I know my friends were mildly pissed off to put it nicely.
I take myself to be fairly 'in the know' when it comes to gaming knoledge. I knew when each console was being released, know the major differences between each console, and know the games people are waiting for and when they are coming out, and other random stuff too. But i have to be honest here, I am beginning to get lost over how many SKUs the PS3 have, and what the differences are.
Ok, I know there was a 20GB and a 60GB model at launch, and the 20GB lacked some little things the 60GB had. Then a 80GB model was released, and (to my knoledge) the 20GB was dropped. Then came along the 40GB version which, i have read, lacks backward compatability. And now there is a 120GB model which this article says is the same as the 40GB but with a bigger hard drive. Now, i give credit to Sony for getting a console on the market (in their first year) down to $400, thats a really important move i think. But i don't understand why they are making so many different model. So many parents are bound to be thinking 'There are too many models for me to choose from, and i don't wanna get the wrong one'.
Sony are undoubtedly more then capable of selling consoles as they have proved with the PS1 and PS2, so maybe i am the one in the wrong. But as far as i am concerned, if i cant keep complete track of all these SKU's major/minor differences, then the older gaming generations (the parents etc) are gonna be fairly confused too.
... i meant 160GB model, not 120!
Gimme a break though, i just spent an hour working out how long a spaceship would appear if it flew past me near the speed of light!:P
Release the 40 GB PS3 to all terriories.....At least $399 in the US...maybe less.
The 160 GB PS3 will be the highend model in all territories for $499..
By this time next year..the 40gb will be up to 60 GB and the price will be $299...and the 160GB will be up to 250GB and the price will be down to $399...
Its called economics...prices go down as time goes forward....The PS3 is not a ferrari....(well it is the ferrari in the tech world but you know what i mean.)
How about a new revised 20GB without complete BC the PS2 and the PS1 software chip for $300..
if you don't like a 160gb model you don't have to buy one - it's simple as that.
some guys are just idiots - Sony will know what they're doing.
Im putting money on this being a different coloured 40GB SKU? anyone else?
Whoever thinks that releasing a PS3 without an HDD needs to buy a brain. If a new model that does not include an HDD is sold then all games will have to be developed for the lowest common denominator. That means all games will be developed at the lowest specs which means worse games. That is why as we move forward all the xbox360 core users will get screwed over because games will require an HDD.
Also why do people complain about the consumer getting confused by all the choices. THINK for one second. A very small minority of the population keeps track of gaming news. What the common consumer will do is go into a Best Buy and ask what are the options available and they will say we have A and B. The consumer will make their choice and THATS IT. They will not wonder about future skus or what they are missing.
Also if you are complaining about BC then you are in the minority. Most of the population does not care about BC just the hardcore gamers who want to play FF7 for the 700th time. I bet you are thinking well what about the consumer who had a ps2 and wants to play all their backlogged games...People do not buy a next gen system to play ps2 games primarily. They buy one to play ps3 games. It is not a make or break decision.
Finally Sony is a company who makes decisions based on what is good for them. What would they rather have...A. People playing backlogged PS2 games B. Buying PS3 games. Sony is not your friend they are a business and they will do what it takes to make money while not killing their fanbase. As of right now I do not think anyone wants to do a ban of Sony just because of the new SKU or no BC. If you are then you prolly arnt a true gamer because some of the future gexclusive games on the PS3 like MGS4, GT5, FF13, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Infamous, Eight Days, Singstar, Afrika, and Haze will give you plenty to play at just $400. While still having the option to watch Blu-Ray movies.
Sorry for writing so much but there are a lot of dumb people out there.
And Warhawk just isn't the same man.
Counting down to Haze. You HAVE to see the new PSN video. It's amazing.