NowGamer: id Software's veteran programmer John Carmack says upcoming shooter Rage is visually more impressive then he could ever have hoped for...
I know this isn't open world as in GTA or Elder scroll opens, but it's still a good bit open isn't it? Like say...Stalker SoC?
Not as much as Stalker, but more so than say, Crysis 2 I imagine. Lots of large hubs, interlinked by corridors no doubt...
Can't wait to try it out :)
what i want is more engines taking advantage of the specs of their consoles.
@Red It's probably more like borderlands, closed off caves and towns but open world in between. O.T The game looks good but no game can go through 3 years of hype and come out exceeding expectations, they announced it way too soon and I think it will be disappointing as a result.
I hope they dont show Doom 4 to soon.
In 2008 (I think) Carmack said Doom 4 will be running at 30fps on consoles, and will look about three times as good as Rage. id has also said that the wait for Doom 4 won't be as long as we think, because the engine is pretty much built already. So hyped! :P
I hope they show SOMETHING soon... The last time I heard anything about Doom 4 was on the Jace Hall show.
Its always good to hear a completely unbiased opinion... LoL
I agree. Rage looks good in terms of animation, in terms of world, but in terms of gameplay? :\ Doesn't make me that excited.
Every parent thinks their baby is the cutest, lol. OT, I'm glad to hear; but with one faction gone and open world somewhat reduced, I am very glad the extra "oomph" went back into the game as polish instead of merely chopping things off. Very professional, Id. Can't wait for the demo and then the game!
First - it looks GOOD. Even on the 360 demo on E3. Second - it runs 60FPS. Third - Have you any idea what the game would look like if it were running in 30FPS on consoles? Forth - It's the CALL OF DUTY engine... except that.. it's 2 generations ahead! Fifth - The gaming world would end if COD uses this engine. -End statement
Err. No. This runs on id Tech 5. COD runs on a heavily modified superset of id Tech 3 (which ran Quake 3, RTCW etc.).
"Err. No. This runs on id Tech 5. COD runs on a heavily modified superset of id Tech 3 (which ran Quake 3, RTCW etc.)." Here's basic math: COD ENGINE aka id Tech 3 + 2 generations ahead = id Tech 5. -End statement
How bout this basic logic, brainiac: Id tech 3 != iw engine It may have been based on it once upon a time, but only a blind man wouldn't be able to see how very different it is now. Look it up. Moreover, while Id tech 4 started out as just a rewrite of the graphics code, it became a full rewrite, meaning only snippets of I'd tech 3 remain. So Id tech 5 isn't two generations worth of added code to an existing engine, at this point it's almost completely different. The gulf is probably as big between tech 3 and iw engine at this point.
I think you're delving to deep in my comment. IdTech 4 is a next gen engine from idTech3 and idTech 5 is a next gen engine from idTech4. I only used "COD Engine" as a moniker for iDtech 3 but regardless of how modified it is. Fact remains that idTech4 is a next-gen followed by idTech5. Otherwise the engine wouldn't have numerical values next to them. -End statement
It will look amazing on the PC but from the 360 gameplay it does not look that good graphically.
We shall see!! I remember all the bragging about Cryengine and crysis on consoles. IMO the demo was underwhleming on the 360. And I cant even get into a game on the PS3 version. Hopefully they have a demo before release but something tells me they WONT
It's John Carmack, when it comes to graphics, he's rarely bragging. What they've already accomplished on consoles is enough silence doubters, 60FPS and with more detail than most exclusives.
Hope so...we shall see :) And im not even talking graphics. Im talking depth of the game. AI etc etc.... Games look great but I want more!
I have a huge respect towards this guy, but I can't stand reading articles in which producers speak highly of their products, not to mention all the hype created by the media after these statements most of which are far from being true. It's good to promote your product to a degree, but I remember Crytek telling that they had created the most beautiful-looking game on the consoles, which could even dethrone KZ3. And guess what we have now? A cheap port of Crysis 2 with low-res textures and washed out graphics on PS3. Producers need to learn how to keep their silence until the end product is out IMHO. Their manipulative words lead to major disappointments most of the time, and I don't want to expect any more than necessary. The media taught me well how to keep my expectations at the lowest in order not to be disappointed. Sorry Carmack, but that's the truth.
But when has Carmack been caught lying about his games ? When he promise a graphically impressive game , he delivers , period . How many other guys can claims they've been a cornerstone in both opengl and directx developement ?
I didn't mean to imply that he's lying, of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if the game turned out graphically inferior on PS3. That's what generally happens with multiplatform games, devs state that both version runs the same, that the graphics are superb on both platforms, the hype begins and when the game is out comparisons start to fly around showing that PS3 version is obviously the worst. As a PS3 owner I'm getting sick of this scenario, so I prefer keeping myself away from all the hype until I see it with my own eyes. What he said might be true for PC, but I don't see RAGE being the best eye candy on consoles. Let's hope that DOOM 4 would be a real innovation and the starting point of the next generation.
I totally agree with you, Baka-akaB. Crytek has no reason to lie. They've made some of the most visually impressive games in history. They know what they're doing. They deliver. Only a fool would say that Crysis 2 won't be incredibly awesome on a visual front. Huh? Wrong topic? But the comments seem sooooo similar.
What generally happens , at least for the past few years , is that those games actually runs the same , bare a few minimal differences people only notice and care about until told so . Differences they can't honestly notice unless they got both versions running side by side . An easy example is when a comparison tells you mvc3 lags a tiny bit compared to the 360 , during the hyper combinations with the 3 chars . What happens ? Idiots comes out of the woods to complain or trash said version . There are cases indeed where the ps3 version is trash , but those have been rare for ages . Not to mention that both sides always forget when a multi games run better on ps3 and is the lead version . There is no doubt imo both will run fine , both inferior obviously to the pc version yet an impressive feat . I have little doubt C2 and kz3 might be , it via raw power or tricks , looking better , but none of them will run as fast and steady WHILE being open world .
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