I remember the way my original wide-grinned enthusiasm for the Nintendo Wii had morphed into my bored, clock-watching ‘can we do something else now?‘ face within two hours–-Kinect did much of the same.
yeah i am also kinda old school, controller-less gaming is cool but it just can't replace the feel of a traditional controller
Well like i've said from the word go there's this kind of "disconnect" feeling without tactile feedback (click of buttons, rumble, heft of a controller etc)I had the chance to play kinect recently and here's my opinion.. Its neat when you walk up and it recognizes someone is there and the avatar on screen moves. But there was this bowling game running and there was barely any latency at all but here's my issue. I was just swinging my arm and it was incredibly difficult to judge where my hand and arm were relative to the motion required to bowl. Further more I tried my hardest to apply english or spin to the ball and it just would not do it.. The ball traveled straight in the direction I pointed and thustly the game became repetitive and boring in a matter of minutes.. I also played Joy ride and wow that game sucks.. Half the time the car would steer opposite of where I was telling it and the lack of ability to control acceleration really irritated me.. So based on those two games kinect was a flop for me.. I really cannnot see myself spending that kind of money for that experience..
well this reply of yours pretty much sums up the whole experience
Lol yea honestly.. I don't mean to sound biased or fanboyish or anything of that nature but I tell it like it is and despite not really liking microsoft or the 360 im a gamer and I play games not consoles.. So I've tried every single high profile release for the 360 before making a judgement call.. For example I fell in love with mass effect 2 way back when it first came out and found myself in walmart staring at a 360 and was about to buy one but I talked myelf out of it.. Now look mass effect 2 is on the ps3:) But regardless I feel that kinect is just a casual crutch for microsoft to lean on until they can launch their next console.. They've all but given up on their core audience sadly...
It was 2 years before I finally tried the Wii. It was what I thought it was, boring, easy and well....boring. Very little if any skill is needed for Wii games. Enter Move, every little movement you do and the speed and angle in which you do it...is perfectly played out on the screen with say disc golf and bocce in SC. It continues to bring me and others I know back because of the competition among not only ourselves but that with such high precision you can get better and better each time you play it. Playing on Gold while newbees play on bronze really shows this. And even then...a seasoned player in SC will wipe the floor with newbees. On the Wii? Well the answer is obvious, my friends 6 year old daughter could beat me sometimes on Wii...and of course NEVER so far with Move. I have not tried Kinect but I do have both the Eyetoy and PSeye...I imagine the same issues that the Wii along with the Playstation cameras would be brought up which gives me no want or need to play it. This is not a troll attempt...this is just my explanation as to why I love Move and could care less for Wii or Kinect. Precision, speed, accuracy, timing....ALL THERE with Move...which is why it can appeal to both the core gamers and casual gamers...the motions are easy but perfecting them is hard....just like in real life. Anyone can throw a frisbee..but it takes practice and more practice to get good at it.
seriously i hate kinect, move and wii-mote crap... they are good for casuals but nothing there to interest a hardcore gamer like me unless MS or Sony try and make some serious hardcore games for kinect and move respectively
Dance games are not casual... @below... Sigh... Go to a game con. People are playing dance games at the game con. If gamers at game cons competitively playing dance games is not hardcore, then you two simply don't understand what core games are...
Of course they aren't :s
what? are you serious? seriously who plays these games??
So killzone 3, resident evil 5, socom 4, heavy rain etc aren't hardcore enough for you?? Killzone 3 with move is sick! I love the assault rifle attachement as well. This is exactly the type of experience sony promied with move. I can't speak for the other games as I haven't played them with move.
the thing is Kinect would be awesome if it used a controller as well if the 2 worked together i feel we could have a gaming experience that would possibly actually evolve the way we play Instead of full body motions jus a hand motion though. My lazy ass likes to sit down while i play
You mean like Wii and Move,.. Yes!! It could work ,... genius!! Whoever bought IR-depth eyetoy for 150USD is a fucking moron,...
lol no not like those more like an actual controller one that i dont have to point with
I don't understand why somebody spends $150 if he doesn't like motion gaming. Do they shoot you in the head if you don't buy Kinect in US/UK?
No...but the guy in the shop said if I don't buy one he'll cut my ear off. I have 6 Kinects now
Rofl!! well played sir..
I liked the sixaxis, but I didn't even want to try move, kinect, or the wii. I just think that stuff should be in addition to the controller instead of replacing it because you'll never get the same control as you would from buttons and sticks.
it was cool to play kinect first week, then it got boring and i sold kinect
exactly! thats what happened with me as well, was so excited for first 10 days or so and then it all got boring
the kinect is good played it at my friends but i dont see there being any good rpgs because you wont be able to walk back
Kinect will be best with the controller. Play games like normal but add in voice commands, cross game chat, gestures like throwing a grenade, melee kills, exc. It will add to the game and add to immersion. This is the future for game, we need controllers but added depth would be great. Id say even split the 360 controller into 2 so you could use gestures without dropping the controller. You dont even need motion contolls just a normal pad split in 2 and let kinect handle gestures. Thats the best solutuin for motion controlls. You will have pure motion hand free gaming and core controller based gaming w extra features.
That's all very well but the thing is we already have head sets that can take care of voice commands and chat and as far as gesture based melee kills and grenade throwing goes they are always better done with the push of a button. Shooters for Wii and Move have tried gestures for these sort of actions but they have reverted back to buttons. Doing a stabbing motion with Move to Melee in Killzone 3 puts you at a major disadvantage when playing against DS3 users online and I believe they are going to be patching a button option for this for Move users because of requests. Older FPS Wii games used to make you do a throwing action with the nunchuck to through a grenade, it was very awkward and didn't work too well. Not sure if newer Wii games still have this but Move FPS games have so far been point Move for tragectory and press button to throw, works really well too. Suggestions that I always read for incorporating Kinect into shooters always include gesture based actions for throwing grenades and producing melee attacks but that's not advancing anything, they've been done, they don't really add to the immersion and they don't offer any advantage. Developers are going to have to be alot more imaginative when adding Kinect features to traditional genres.
That was a nicely written article I must say and it hits the nail right on the head, in many ways the industry is almost too focused on innovating every bleeding detail except the ones that matter, like upping the ante on story or painstakingly tweaking controls to perfection, not to say that there aren't games with good controls, but none are inching close to prefection and why? I think partly its due to time, games would push 6-7 years if they were that anal, and some do...in which case one has the added problem of things going out of date etc I say f*** peripherals, stick to the core stuff it's easy, significantly cheaper and in some ways more enjoyable...but as the author say's, pop it out for x-mas if you have to, that's always a fun treat when you want to avoid talking to akward aunts or uncle's.
if you like it then it's good , don't complaign , just have fun but microsoft are wrong , they only make kinect games , kinect games are boring for me , not even worth playing for me , it's waste of time and money... not fanboy but i prefer playing ps move then kinect because it have alot better games , it's even for hardcore gamers , just try heavy rain-re5-killzone 3 - tumble ....etc but when you look at kinect games it doesn't make me want to play any game , kinect for dancing which you can do it in real so why dance in a game... the only game im intersting is gears 3 , the others don't worth playing for me , even forza 4 after gt5 released...
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