Kotaku - A glowing fan review for Dragon Age II on Metacritic discovered to have been written by a member of the game's development team sparked outrage among the gaming community yesterday. EA's response? That's how it works.
Agreed, only if that was his Honest opinion of Dragon Age 2.
How is comparing a vote to a review a good point? If the president were to write a review about himself I would understand the link. EA can't defend this one. Fan reviews aren't worth much, but people shouldn't be so unethical. Some consumers use reviews and shouldn't have to deal with corporate shills and their biased views.
Why wouldn't President Obama vote for himself? Isw that it was kotaku so i didn't bother to read the article (Kotaku has a bad track record). The election was a Blow-out anyway! 338 to 220 (1984 Reagan 525 vs. Mondale 13 was a Pro all-Star squad vs. the Tuesday night senior citizen rec league)
Well..... I don't want to agree with someone that already has so many disagree's. But Biggest is kind of right. Voting for yourself is not like reviewing something you made. I mean.... lol Sure, he could honestly feel that way about it. But that's why they should be restricted from reviewing it because we'll never know if it's the real deal or not. Imagine every company making every employee rate/review it now. YES, OF COURSE IT'S THEIR REAL FEELING! *cough*
"Voting for yourself is not like reviewing something you made." I dunno. Voting for yourself in an election is like saying "I believe I'm worthy of this vote, this position, and I am the right person for this job." Giving a good review to something you made is kind of the same thing, like saying "I believe my work is worthy of this score". It's not like user reviews are meaningful. I mean, whenever I write a review for a game on GOG.com, it allows you to vote whether it's helpful on your own review, and I always click "Yes" it was helpful on my own review. Why not? I see no harm in that. It's just showing you believe in your own work or abilities in any of these cases.
Does anyone else feel that this article has the looks of some kind of odd make-out session between some right wing nut and a gamer?
'right wing nut' is redundant. In this day in age, it's pretty well much assumed until otherwise proven.
'Right wing = nut' is only assumed by those arrogant left wing nuts who'd much rather demonize and dismiss people they disagree with than have real meaningful arguments with them. Just about everybody else keeps a slightly more open mind, probably because they still can. Of course left wing nuts are often insisting that they aren't nuts and sometimes even that they aren't really left wing if that happens to not playing well to a particular room. Right wing nuts play the same sort of games. One can obviously be right or left wing, or even disinterested without being a nut but sadly many people on both sides (and some on neither side) get so upset about things that they start to lose all perspective and assume that they must always be right and that everyone else must be crazy. This generally leads to all sorts of ranting, being constantly outraged about dumb things, and lots of simplistic, xenophobic, snarky, cheap, paranoid, self righteous, hysterical sounding, childish bullshit passed off as serious thoughts about politics. That's when the people identifying the nuts by party start sounding like they might be a little nuts themselves. If anyone disagrees with any of the bullshit they instantly get pegged as a nut or someone duped by a nut. That way the REAL nut can live in a magical bubble and feel special and never have to deal with what an insufferably boring ass they've become.
"'Right wing = nut' is only assumed by those arrogant left wing nuts who'd much rather demonize and dismiss people they disagree with than have real meaningful arguments with them." Not true. Have you watched the past few weeks of "debate" concerning the teacher's union in Wisconsin? A certain group of people would have you believe that teachers make far too much money and since our tax dollars pay most of their salaries, we should dismantle their union and lower their pay. Those same people would have you believe that people making $200,000 a year (which is more than 4x an average teacher's salary) should have huge tax breaks because they're still poor. Those same people also feel that the Wall Street employees and bankers (that were a MAJOR factor in tanking the world's economy) are worthy of huge bonuses and high salaries (even those we, the tax payers, were forced to pay their salaries by way of the bail out monies) and should always make those amounts of money to continue to attract top "talent" to the field. You know. . . The same top talent that tanked the economy. The people that are saying those things ARE right wing nutts. You can't have a meaningful argument with people that can't see reality even as they contradict it on record for the world to see. Left wing nutts aren't known to be as big a deal because they don't have as loud and consistently crazy message.
I can't get the article to load... oh well, anytime I can diss that sack of turd obama, I will.... DA2 sold its soul like pimple puss obama, it's all rigged folks. Get with the times....
Then why'd they try and stealth remove the review?
At least we have the possibility to vote for our goverment... If that was possible in gaming-world, I am definetly sure EA wouldn't become president... Or something is REALLY wrong with the world... Reviewing yourself in this extremely obvious unobjective manner is almost an insult to the intelligence of the people. dictators tend to behave in the same manner. often also for monetary gain. usually it doesn't end very well with them though...
It's a user review. If you're using MetaCRITIC for user reviews, you're doing it wrong. It's not even an issue of business ethics. If they were paying someone to edit their wikipedia entries, yeah, that would be an issue. Yet they're not doing that. Stop treating them like they're Microsoft.
That picture of obama is unamerican!
Freedom of speach, and it's art.
have to get that average up,very important to oversell underwhelming junk. future uncertain. very unamerican picture....needs chinese cap.
Regardless, I am enjoying DA2. I never finished the first one because I got caught up in too many other games. I've been playing on Hard difficulty for about 8 hours, having a very good time. Don't bother with the user reviews for this game, it's fun.
I like how they ignore the fact that it's a bad practice, so let's just make it seem like "Everyone does it why can't we too" Like it's acceptable. >_> Plus it's common knowledge that a candidate can vote for themselves in a presidental race. I mean for crying out loud THEY TELEVISE IT. This however is padding practice, which is worse. They were trying to hide it, not admitting it until caught. People are giving it 7s and 8s. That does not mean the game is bad...it means that it needs some improvements. Apparently there's this mindset with some devs that games HAVE to have 9s or 10s now a days, and honestly it's getting sickening that they're more worried about media scores.
If I was desperately trying to win, I would vote for myself, along with everyone else of course. Love the new tat by the way.
Good point but ppl aren't buying the oscars,grammy or even a presidential election. When review your own material your bound to be bias thats why its best to leave the reviewing to others, if corrections is need the you just update/fix it and nothing. also is that pic really necessary?
I have to say that it is sad when you go to a gaming website that has nothing to do with politics and you find a picture of the President like the one that is posted above. He is OUR President wither you like it or not, he is the leader of the free world even if you don't agree with his policies. For a site like Kotatu or whoever posted has hit a all time low for hits. And as a gamer and an proud American when I read some of the above comments it makes me sick and sad inside to know that even on a website like n4g there is no place that is safe from demonizing the President.
Where were you when we had countless images like this of Bush on here in the same way? Oh sorry double standards...
Bullshit there wasn't that much hate to where Bush's faith and birth of place was being questioned. And yes it wrong for both side to do it, if you look at my past comments I have never said anything bad about Bush and your avatar says it all for me anyway. Your just one of those people who'll just find anything to hate about the President. All I'm saying is that this is a gaming website so keep it about games and don't go demonize the President on here. There's a time and place for stuff like that, go to fox's website or just vote for the others Guy next time around because posting a picture like that is not necessary.
Bullshit? Have you not been on this site long? I agree this isn't a site for this sort of argument. But Bush was called everything under the sun, Hitler to Satan. Obama has only done this to himself by going against the people that voted for him. He portrayed himself as someone in the Center and then showed to be only on the left. From his healthcare bill which the majority didn't want to his Blame America tour to other countries. Or his stance on nearly stopping all of our efforts to get off the need for foreign oil. He could have been a great leader, but he has his own agenda, sadly is it to make everyone possible dependent on the Government so they keep electing the same dumbasses that put us in this position.
Yeah like healthcare was so great before that bill, like foreign oil is the way of the future for the US. Wake the fuckup we are being lifted behind by every freaking country out there. Look I don't a shit about your political view, you can vote for whoever you want but to say well they did it to Bush so deal with it just shows that your no different from the same idiots your talking about who hate on Bush. And if you want to listen to right wing crap that are false about him looking down on this country then go right ahead but its not true he has proudly spoke about our nation time and time again. He is a proud American like you and I wither you want to believe it or not.
Seriously? When has he said anything great about America? Oh maybe when he said it's not as good as it once was? Or when his WIFE said after he was elected that she is for the first time in her adult life that she is proud of her country. Or how about Bowing to foreign leaders. And yes the Healthcare was just fine here, Was it perfect Hell no. They could have made changes that needed to be done but not screw up everyone else that was happy. And yes I have a right to complain and listen to whatever wing I want at least until they try running the Fairness Doctrin again. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't makes it false.
This is getting really freaking old lol, look kid the Health Law didn't change anything for anyone unless you own a business. Everything else has been positive, like staying on your parents plan until your 26, not getting kicked off your insurance if you have a pre existing conditions, and a women are now no longer considered to be a pre existing conditions. That to me is a lot better than what we hasd to deal with before. Shit I take it you have never had to pay a outrageous plan just to end up getting kicked off for having a condition. And in some countires bowing is a sign of respect not wickness. But talking to you is like talking to a mad bull, it's pointless and get you no where. So believe what you want.
"Kid" that's funny acting like you know how old I am. First of all yea it did effect everyone since most businesses that offer insurance to their Employee's are the ones it affects. Being 26 on your parents insurance...Umm the only people that need to be on their parents insurance that long or handiecap people who can't support them selves. 26 is no a kid that's a grown adult, at 23 I was an elected offical of my town. I could see that me running for a position as mayor but still on mommie and daddy's insurance. Leaders of other countries don't bow to other leaders. That's a sign of weakness, Japan has bowing but not when meeting other leaders if that's not there custom. And your ending was cute about the bull but I like mine better. Never argue with and idiot because they will just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Ok kid lol I'm bored of this back and forth crap, whatever helps you sleep at night.
Oh there would have been nothing wrong with him giving a glowing review of the game as long as he disclosed that he was one of the developers of the game. The fact that he didn't speaks to his real intentions.