With automotive monsters like Forza Motorsport 2 and DiRT nicely filling their respective niches, you might wonder what there is left to do with the racing genre.
As fun as it can be, Project Gotham Racing 4 doesn't seem to know either.
Wow, these guys are sure strange. They gave 4.5/5 to Boogy and now give PGR4's lowest score (3.75)? Strange site indeed.
I think after they saw how good GT 5 Prologue is that they had to take off points for this game. They even give somewhat of a subtle hint in the last paragraph of the article.
It's really sad that every racing sim will likely be compared to GT 5 Prologue and then the actual finished product of GT 5 next year. Developers better get back to work and put in a lot of effort or else they will be left behind.
I must add that I do like racing games and I wouldn't mind playing this game as long as it's not on those bikes.
EDIT: @ the greatest
Maybe MS did pay them for those scores LOL and ouch.
Learn to read before hypothesizing. They stated quite clearly why they did not give PGR4 such a great score - because nothing will quite be like Forza 2. GT will have a tougher time competing than PGR4.
IMO, all Reviews these days are strange. Then again they're reviewed from people just like all of us on N4G, and it can't get any stanger than this!
In the end, it's the reader reviews that really count anyway, just look at Killzone 1 on GameSpot.
I'm sure Blizzard lost a lot of motivation after being screwed by MS behind the scene and in front as well when MS forced them to release PGR3 at launch despite not being ready.
It really shows on the bike as to how they put out an unfinished product. Just watch when a person crashes on the bike and doesn't fall off 90% of the time when he should.
Thanks again MS for screwing gamers dreams over. Ok to be fair blizzard is pretty big screw up on their own as well. Come on 5 games dating back to the Dreamcast and they still can't get collision even remotely correct. Hey, if they do there next game on the PS3 they'll have the physics power to actually do something good for once.
I think you mean Bizarre. Blizzard are the Starcraft/Warcraft people.
i guess one less AAA game for 360ppl to shove in everyones face! I know i seen a few say it was AAA last week...
u cant trust reviews anymore. They just seem all over the board. im sure PGR fans will love this game and even if the bikes are a waste of space atleast they tried. Its no motorstorm with its mix of bikes and stuff but i myself like raod racing more! Cant wait for GT prolouge
not so good score. but understandable after i have seen the vids of this game. its like pg3 without aliasing.
This game is averaging a whopping 88%. You know what that means? That it would be the second highest rated game on the ps3. But I guess Achira just admited that all the ps3 games have "not so good score"
Wasnt expecting much anyways all past pgrs have always been crapyou didnt expect this game to be any better right.
besides the the gameplay graphics look like crap compare to the CGI some people were posting it feels kind of like PGR3 with more features.
Still buying it.
*Sony payed them off*
*they hate the 360 just kidding*.
Look its PS3 fanboy news. You have PS3 fan 360 news and 360 fan 360 news.
You're the only person showing up in here the rest are ignored PS3 fanboys.
as your 2 of the biggest fanboys on this site....
also with regards to
"Look its PS3 fanboy news. You have PS3 fan 360 news and 360 fan 360 news. "
lol yeah cos i never see you spamming ps3 related threads do i....
edit: yep im the biggest fanboy here... go find some of my comments to prove that... go on... it should be easy right...??
Yah and this is coming from somebody thats taking Nasims place as one of the ridiculous Sony fanatics on this site.
" not surprised.." about what? the fact this thread is filled with Sony fanboys itching to talk sh*t. lol
Yeah same here. I got tired of hearing all the crying from the sony boys so I just put them on ignore. I see the big babies are in here, Maddens Raiders, Mighty Douche, Shaka, etc... Damn more ps3 boys than 360 boys.
Anyway, this game is averaging an 88%. Add another great game to that already impressive 360 gaming library. Damn the 360 is destroying the ps3 right now! Whew!!!
Last few months...
Halo 3: 95%
Heavenly Sword 81%
That is some serious butt whooping.
my firend do you even play/enjoy games? as all you ever seem to do is post numbers and reviews. its meaningless, if my fav game ever got 4/10 would that make me like it less? would i stop playing it? no, because someone else's opinion means nothing to me (including yours).
do you only buy games that score an average higher than 90 or something? because if that is indeed the case then you my friend are missing out on some real gem games. try things for yourself, you might fiend some of those 80% games that you laugh at so much just might be the gaming experience you've been missing.
Truth hurts xbois.
Another flop for xbug 3DO just like forza 2.
While PS3 gets the best version of Burnout.
We don't need nazis here on N4G
the way people were bigging this game up i was expecting the 9/10's minimum... oh well i guess its just another game that cant live up to hype (in my opinion NO game ever does).
still if your a fan of racing games, regardless of what reviews say you should always try it yourself before you deside not to buy.
This game is nothing but PGR3 with some smattering of weather effects,and some motorcycles to break up the repetitiveness of the series.And to even dare compare this game to the upcoming GT:Prolouge is complete and utter sacreligiousness.It's like comparing the Mona Lisa to Garfield.
So since you've played GT5 prologue, how does it play? hows the physics?
why are these reviews getting so unreliable. it wasn't like that a couple of years before. no review is going to stop me from getting a game anymore. i try, i like and i buy it's as simple as that. this was(is) going to be my second 360 purchase after halo as i just got the system recently.
Man, GT 5 won't be out for a full year (at least not the final game) and its already kicking other racing games' ass xD
Ya'll talk alot of sh!t but never have any proof or hard facts to back it up! its always been the way of you b1atches!!
Last time i checked it was the number of units sold that determind a AAA game, NOT reviews.
Now HS, warhawk, lair are not doing so well in sales are they lol, infact these so called PS3 AAA games are already forgotten LOL.
Face it...PGR4 will still sell more copies than all those games combined LOL.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP FOOLS!!!!
AAA's sell a hell of alot of software and even push hardware some times. Example: Lost Planet is a AAA it continues to push hardware because people tell me all the time they picked the 360 up to play it.
Nice try Madden, but you failed.
Just as you Fony Fanboys like to rely on ONE review for Lair that's positive, by Famitsu, while the average total of reviews clearly shows Lair sucks.
Same with PGR4:
Avg Ratio: 88%
Based on 24 reviews.
Avg Ratio: 57%
Based on 53 reviews
Based on 73 reviews
Even your beloved Warhawk, the only game that gives you a bit to play:
Avg Ratio: 84%
based on 61 reviews
To sum it up like metacritics does for PS3:
1 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The 93
2 Ninja Gaiden Sigma 88
3 NHL 08 87
4 Resistance: Fall of Man 86
5 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 86
And for 360:
1 BioShock 96
2 Halo 3 94
3 Gears of War 94
4 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The 94
5 Guitar Hero II 92
6 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 90
7 Forza Motorsport 2 90
8 Call of Duty 2 90
The 360 clearly has more exclusive AAA's more normal AAA's. Even PGR4 on 88% is better then any game on the PS3. Only Oblivion (multiplatform) is above and a Ninja Gaiden remake from XBOX 1 is ON PAR with PGR4 on these average reviews. To continue:
9 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 89
10 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 89
11 Burnout Revenge 89
12 Project Gotham Racing 3 88
13 NHL 08 88
14 Project Gotham Racing 4 87
15 Elder Scrolls IV: Shivering Isles, The 86
16 Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 86
17 Fight Night Round 3 86
18 Elder Scrolls IV: Knights of the Nine, The 86
19 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2
The 360 has 10 more games scoring higher or as high which the PS3 already reaches with game nr. 5. A wopping total of about 20 games that have a high score above 86%, where the PS3 only has 5 in that range.
That sums it up, and is not as limited as Madden likes to state on one review.
As usual, the Mart speaks the truth and the Sony fans will no doubt cry "burn him at the stake". The ignorant are a fearful lot.
well rest assurred now i know that im gonna rush home and delete that off my hard drive!
everyone knows that REAL GAMERS (like you mart) only play games that in someone else's opinion score over 90%!!
oh, nice use of 'copy and paste' time and time again, by saying the say thing 25 times it really sinks in and gets your point across.
What I wanted to make clear, is that PGR4 with an average of 88% is rated better then Warhawk.
Warhawk may be a fun game for you to play, but it's still no AAA as in the average score of 90%. As Sony hyped Warhawk, Heavenly Sword and Lair. All are just good, but not the greatness promised.
But I know when facts are given, it's a hard reality. When there are no facts Sony droids say 'you lie' when there are facts they say 'copy/paste'. Make up your mind.
What I wanted to make clear is that Sony fangirls get one review and then blow it up:
For PS3 games one great review, they forget those other 50 bad ones
For 360 games one review thats still good but the lowest score up till then, while those other 23 reviews are more on par with the average of 88%, they forget those 23 reviews and believe in that one review that's way off
It's always a tough job to turn fanatics away from their blind faith. Common sense is not a matter to be taken for granted when you deal with Sony fans. You have to keep drumming in the hard facts, keep repeating the obvious, and hopefully reason will finally prevail. Its a sh!tty job, but someone's got to do it, and you should all give kudos to The Mart for volunteering.
You really can't dispute the average. Of course it's left up to the gamers to tell their story but, I think gamers are more biased then anything. Blind Fanboys call any game for their console of choice "AAA".
Like I said it's not about the website or Mag that gives the highest score since fanboys will only cling to that, so desperately while negating everything else.
Good post theMart.
I was not expecting this game 9's, well the 360 have gotten many under their belt, I would say. So much for the Ps3 which I have yet own. Still waiting, and so are it's gamers. I'll take this score. As I rather an ARCADE racer as opposed to a simulation. They are just more fun. Still I don't knwo why we comepare ARCADE to SIMULATION games.
GT: Looks great but is missing out on the environment, then again they pour all their blood and sweat into the polygons making sure the game looks and drive great.
PGR: is a balance of all things, graphics, gameplay, environment, effects.
Forza vs Gt = Yes
PGR vs GT= No
Killzone 1? HAHAHA GTFO. Reader reviews don't count for sh*t, and they sure as hell don't sell games.
What the hell is wrong with Maddens these days, he's turned into an all out Sony [email protected]
people have the freedom to voice their opinions and thoughts, which is fine as long as they dont try to force the on others.
if you dont want to read what somebody has to say simply hit that little ignore button and 'poof' they disappear, so not really any need for the oh so mature ' [email protected]
they have to keep the 5/5 for GT5 ;-)
Oh TheMART, you're so dumb that it hurts. No one wants your average 360 games.
and btw ... AAA titles are those games that are made with typically a larger development budget and have really high production values
so Lair, Motorstorm, Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk ... all AAA man!!!
go play your overrated piece from the Halo cake and leave us alone. It gets annoying to hear someone with a VW talking smack about a Porsche.
So they're AAA because they have big budgets but the games still suck? Well nice AAA games then!
Really. Triple AAA reviewed/rated games are those games that get over 90%. That are not just good, but GREAT, like only a few games a year are.
BTW you're here at the review of a 360 game, PGR4. So why do I need to leave PS3 droids alone in a 360 review? Get out of here, and take your overrated BetaBluRay player that can do some games on top with you because in Europe it's only selling in the minor markets like Germany, Spain and Italy. UK largest market chooses 360 over PS3. Those minor sales markets don't contribute as much to sales as UK and USA for example do.
PS3 is pretty much dead floating in the water dude, that's why Sony keeps dropping the price, it'll be 200 Dollar/Euro in a year. It's no good sign so short after a release...
plays GT5, then a "BETABLURAYPLAYER" is fine w/ me. LOL.
(in the soup natzi`s voice)
NO GT5 for you.
silly little man.
I just purchased PGR4 last night and I'll can say is wow. Great visuals, the weather effects really have better impact on racing. While it doesn't reinvent the genre, a great solid game.
The soundtrack is out of the world, instead of a generic alt-rock soundtrack there are a few songs from artists I actually like (Mind.In.A.Box, Edge of Dawn).
barely a rental, and only if a coupon is available.
Why is it you're 90% percent wrong on your predictions and still you look for anything to try and prove your point..
There's nothing to prove get over it.. PGR4 is going to be a decent and fun game no doubt about that, but it ain't going to be the second coming.. It ain't AAA, It ain't going to be the best racing game, It ain't going to be better than GT5 and that I'll predict.. (i'll bet all my money on it).
We already know LAIR is averaging low on reviews, reviews got out the game got hammered end of story.
Now they are reviewing another game and that game ain't getting the scores you were posting all over.
Now grow up in mentality, because being 32 years old with this kind of behavior says a lot about your your personal and social life my friend.
I can't imagine seeing you giving your son the satisfaction of being right just cause you're an obsessive fanboy. (if you have one or ever procreate one with that kind of immaturity).
I never read gamepro anyway, sh!tty reviews and sh!tty previews.
Why do people keep on comparing GT5 to PGR4?
They may both do racing but PGR4 is an arcade game while GT5 is a sim, god some of you people are idiots and somehow some of you actually still have alot of bubbles.
I could say that GT5 is just GT4 with better graphics and some more cars, maybe play the game before you bash and stop being so binded by Sony or MS.
One more thing, while TheMart is one big 360 fanboy, and yes he bashes the PS3 alot, he at least trys to back up his statements unlike most fanboys on this site. As for Maddens has always been a Sony fanboy, at one point he was neutral but now hes just another trolling asshole who will bash the 360 at any possible chance, see him in the Halo threads when he keeps on talking about UT3, god that guy is an idiot.
I'll probaly get flamed for this but fu*k it.
Graphically yes, but gameplaywise it just was never much fun for me. I definitely prefer arcadey racers like Burnout, Outrun, Daytona USA, and Motorstorm.
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