Reviews:
Arcana Heart - 7/6/7/6
SuchiPai4 - 8/7/6/5
Lair - 9/7/8/9
Operation Darkness review - 6/6/6/5
PGR4 - 9/8/8/8
Lair and PGR4 both got 82/100. Although PGR4 being an x360 game might not have any impact in JAPAN but expect LAIR to sell atleast 50 000 copies at Launch week . the 2 9's in the LAIR review proves that Japanese do like the game.
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although we already know that x360 is a dead console in JAPAN and EU.
the ps3 would be getting a price cut in both JAPAN and EU before the launch of LAIR.
expect x360 to fully die in both JAPAN and EU on the 10th OCTOBER
i expect LAIR to sell between 150 000 --300 000 copies in JAPAN
and 500 000 copies in EU
and always hype ps3 games,and underestimates 360 games.
all the gamers here know that.
I knew they would like Lair just as much as i liked it. It seemed like a jp type of game to me for some reason. The game is flat out love it or hate it thats why its metatrics are around 5.8. I like it and i hope it sells a ton of copies in jp so they make a sequel. But WHY THE HELL IS THE ONLINE ON THE GAME NOT WORKING.
Bubbles from me bud. I have played Lair and loved it. I have no trace of Japanese in me and have grown up in the US so I must be an anomaly… I do have to say that Lair was a good game and was fun for the time it lasted. It definitely deserves a decent score like this and not the bashing it got here in the States. It would seem that most of the Statesmen reviewers have been bought off to bash anything PS. Too bad too, since there have been several good titles on the system.
Lair was a ton of fun. But the only two drawbacks to the game the controls and the confusion on what to do kept it from being a AAA title. If they fix those issues in a patch or in Lair 2 the game would be virtually flawless.
the acting is so good in HS, when i played Lair afterwards, my girlfriend and i just sat back and laughed.
the voice acting is something i never paid much attention to, but when you play something as polished as HS then play Lair, you REALLY notice the difference.
Lair is awesome. They got over the hype and actually sat down and played it.
the acting is terrible (and it has always bothered me that the main character Rohn was modeled to look just like that douchy Julian Eggebrecht guy)...the level layout is gorgeous, yet illogical...the random cutscenes, are just that.. random...and terrible...and I don't like the CGi, cut back to in game for some reason, then back to Cgi...for no apparent reason...
thats just the corny stuff though...the game overall simply wasn't fun for me...at all...their was no type of "dogfighting" which is what I was excited about...you spam fire balls at dragons so far away you don't even see the animation of them falling...the up close battles are extremely clumsy...and the objectives are always annoying, especially with the horrid voice acting of your frat brothers yelling at you...
HS on the other hand...one of the very top games released on the PS3 so far...no game has ever touched it in terms of acting or facial animation...nothing has come close...the sound in that game, the visuals, and the deep combat system (I originally hated it, in the demo I didn't think there would be anyway that the combat would work without a jump feature...but it does...big time)...its nearly perfect...I agree that it being a little longer would have been great, but that hardly "hurts" it...
the fact that Lair has reviews all over the place really points to how pointless reviews are...gamespot calling the controls broken was simply funny...they are not broken...not liking a control scheme does not make them broken...it makes you impatient, and mildly childish...America in a nutshell I guess, funny how foreign reviews have really been the only ones to praise the game...
after all they incorpated it in their systems.. this proves that they are open to new things while america is well narrow minded. i enjoyed lair it was good.
to see how the xbox fans manage to turn this into a plus. Lair gets used time and time again to bash the ps3.
still, strange how this game has got such a different range of score. bet at least with FAMITSU you know they would of actually played the game for more than 10 minutes before making there call.
i havent played Lair but seeing its as good as PGR (haha) i might have to give it a go.
Lair is one of the worst games ever made!
I would have a fetus stapled to my chin, rather than play Lair again.
Lair = Liar
"lair is not barbie games" ...judging from your profile pic, I can tell you would never entertain the idea of playing a game where you control a blonde chick.
I've got nothing against lair, you just can't set yourself up like that, dude. All in good fun!
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Wat i'm trying to say is with or without motion controls lair still sucks
i think it (like you said) needs a better aim system.
and MOST IMPORTANTLY a phucking HUD. or some sort of MAP, SOMETHING.
w/ the ammount going on it would be nice to know what`s behind you.
Blue Dragon got close to a 10 also in Famitsu, but you Fony Fanboys said the real reviews came when it got the 7 and 8 reviews overhere in the West.
So now you say it's the other way around, now they're right in Japan? RIGHT
I'll say the average of reviews is right:
PGR4 - average reviews 88%
http://www.gamerankings.com...
Lair - average reviews 57%
http://www.gamerankings.com...
Enough said. It's not only gamespot. LAIR STILL SUCKS and PGR4 STILL ROCKS
your a STRANGE STRANGE, MANCHILD.
or do you just take the word of reviews as gosbel? try things for yourself, remeber when you were young and everyone said being gay was wrong but then the first time you put that c0ck up your ass everything changed?
We already know LAIR average reviews!!
But why are you changing your stance on PGR4??? You were shouting everywhere how this game would be AAA and how it would get 90% + average.. I know it will get nice reviews and I'm not taking anything from the game, but you sure can accommodate to any situation after much BS that comes out your mouth.
HALO 3 couldn't sell THAT much systems.. what makes you think PGR4 will?
Wrong. People need to learn with the facts stated above, although they're pretty sad for Lair.
@ MightyAssDouche
"or do you just take the word of reviews as gosbel?"
Nope, not just ONE review. I take all reviews and average those results. Which normally gives a very good view on the game, including reading all that has been written about a game. That all together gives the overall view that Lair sucks and PGR4 rocks. Furthermore, I've played about all PS3 games in Leipzig at the CG so yeah... I think only Uncharted could become a real AAA game on the PS3 this year.
"try things for yourself, remeber when you were young and everyone said being gay was wrong but then the first time you put that c0ck up your ass everything changed?"
Uhm you're writing this all like it's directly taken from your diary from own first person findings. I am pretty sorry for you dude, did your daddy do that to you or did Barbie Ken from Sony when he sold you the BetaBluRay player for 600 Euros/Dollars and soonish he'll be smashing it in ya face for 400 Euros/Dollars? If I would be like you, I would have bought the Gaystation 3 dude... But I didn't gladly
@ Whoooop
Nice try dude. But you failed.
Lair has it's score based on 37 reviews
PGR4 score is based on 10 reviews
The latest reviews is:
http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...
GameInformer rate PGR4 as an 8.75/10 with a second opinion being 9.25/10.
So yeah the game still has the posibility of getting on 90% or over. Lair for sure WON'T reach that while Sony said it would be AAA. As is Heavenly Sword with an 8 average.
BTW 88% is still a score only 1 or 2 PS3 games have. So in that view the 360 is doing even right with that score on PGR4.
"HALO 3 couldn't sell THAT much systems.. what makes you think PGR4 will? "
You mean 122k units in a week? At the end of August it was around 76k a week. So you only take 20% increase of last week in NA alone, but the Halo 3 effect has been much, much bigger then that. You're to short (or should we say SONY) minded for seeing that.
The PS3 did how much? 29k last week in North America? MOAHAHAHA
*cough cough cough*
In this comment The Mart simply states that you are hypocrites for not agreeing. You don't agree to the FACT that PGR4 averages a score of 88% and Lair averages 57%. If you're disagreeing to this fact you are hypocrites.
When PS3 games get bad reviews you say that reviews are just one mans opinion, and when it's the other way around the reviewer becomes the voice of God. Make up your minds.
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u notice that on that xboxkings site The Mart is the 2nd biggest user on that site... only one xbot is higher than him lol
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LOL
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haha, i laughed at that. Fill out your forms correctly people!
"try things for yourself, remeber when you were young and everyone said being gay was wrong but then the first time you put that c0ck up your ass everything changed?"
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The whole city fell to the RROD and I had to buy a PS2 just to keep myself occupied.
oh yeh i forgot im glad lair got a good score cos its a good game thats all there is to it
Lair is solid just not for everyones control taste. But most xbots have not even seen the game in person. Lair has not released in europe or asia yet.
...and its a really good game. not the best game ever, but just a really fun and challenging experience...
PLAY B3YOND
not a overhyped FPS called Halo 3.
Why? Because they love difference and are open to new things.
Blue Dragon got good scores from japan and everyone trashed the game because of the gampro and company reviews, but now we love famitsu, only because it gave lair good scores...
Apparently the blue dragon scores were not legit from them...but this one is?
hey the proof's in the pudin, how much have lair sold?
"i love japanese people!!
Why? Because they love difference and are open to new things."
thats BS westerners are more open to japanese games then the other way around, just look at the major franchises. Imo, Japan is very closed and loyal.
exactly, i was speaking on part of blue dragon.
when it got scores from them everyone was saying it wasn't legit because of the scores it got from elsewhere.
regardless who made the game, as for halo ya know MS paid.
see everyone flocks to where the highest review is or at least hold them reviewers up high for their console of choice.
find it hard to believe but then again the japanese are big on honor.
Nice to see this game getting the score it deserves.
Lair is a great game .. i've said it all the time.
at least a 9/10
epic battles with movie like graphics - PS3 FTW!
Ha Ha Ha @ TheMART - i enjoy Lair and you can do nothing about it ;-)
The sixaxis control works well until you need to pull off a quick 180 turn or a charge attack, then the controls become very hit and miss, i quickly became tired even bored with it after the fourth mission and have no i9ntention of loading it up again, it's a beautiful game to look at with a stunning musical score.
The cutscenes are done very well but the voice acting is bordering on awful possibly the worst i have heard over the last few years.
It's a very average game that deserves a six on a good day
EDIT
amazing someone has actually added me to there ignore list for posting my opinion on Lair, quite amazing being honest and having a subjective opinion still isn't enough for some people
get a grip to whoever it is !!
"Lair is a great game .. i've said it all the time.
at least a 9/10
epic battles with movie like graphics - PS3 FTW!
Ha Ha Ha @ TheMART - i enjoy Lair and you can do nothing about it ;-)"
You are a Liar. Who raised you?
wedontcare
We know you say you have a 360 and a PS3. All great games like Bioshock, Halo 3, PGR4, Gears of War you say isn't all that and every game that suck on the PS3 you like.
Strange kind of pattern we see there dude. A very strange one.
Can you say owned by Famitsu?
lmfao, I love it when stuff like this happens :p
look whos here The Mart.... now we r waiting for FirstKnight and Bladestar to bash Lair... and more xbots go ahead its really funny...the comments on this site totally crack me up ppl take it soo seriously lol
Omg an exclusive on the PS3 got the same score as an exclusive on a different system this cant happen EVER ? LOL
Funny thing that he throws around more A's that that teacher he gave a BJ to in high school. A game that gets 9+ doesn't not mean AAA. AAA is just a term used for high production values. So, pretty much as long as HS and LAir sale, they are AAA, same with Motorstorm, resistance, etc.
Favorite quote "Furthermore, I've played about all PS3 games in Leipzig at the CG so yeah... I think only Uncharted could become a real AAA game on the PS3 this year. "
Haha, yes, AAA is defined on what a dumbass 35 year old xbot thinks, lovely. TheMart, as long as you beleive Uncharted is the only AAA, then by god, it will be. Good times!
Relientk77 , nice to see someone takes this site as lightly as I do. Haha, fanboys defending their platform to death is funny.
and played it over the weekend! I really liked the look of the game and i didnt see the framrate drops that ppl said where horiable. I cant say its a great game just because the controls (4me) seemed to get in the way of making some really cool moments. Its no 4.5 that gamespot gave it but its no 9/10 that this dude above me says it was.
I know reviews are just opinions and IMO its a 7.5/10. Atleast they tried to make good use of the 6axis but unlike HS they fell a bit short for me. Still a great rental. Game looks amazing
Seems that the downscaling for SD is implemented wrong or at least with ugly performance hits.
The game itself: the controls are OK if you invest the time to work on them. But overall the game is way to Drakenguardish for my taste. Seems i just don't like dragon games very much.
for the Sony systems, Famitsu would give it a 10.
hardly !!
that wasn't worth posting was it, Famitsu are the Japanese equivalent of EDGE magazine here in the UK ie hard to please, they will slate any game if they beleive it deserves it.
they have a different culture to anywhere else and certainly like different things, i suspect the inclusion of Dragons has made Famitsu possibly give Lair a higher score than it deserves.
It's all subjective opinion, the Japanese people are very laid back and Lair can be played that way, ie - very serene you can just fly around relaxing just taking in the stunning scenery for quite a while.
like i have said before in this thread it's an average game imo that deserves a six on a good day, it's one of those give it time and you will love it or end up hating it rather quickly and not giving it a chance type of games
Lair is a great action game
PS3 FTW!
You sold your 360 just because Halo 3 disappointed you? Thats kinda drastic, no? Somehow I have a feeling you never owned a 360 in the first place.....
Either way, thats irrelavent, to buy a 360 just for Halo 3 or to sell it just because of Halo 3 are both completely moronic.
On to the real question I have. What in the hell is your avatar a picture of? An aborted fetus? Maybe I'm just not looking at it the right way but I'm lost. If you could help me out on that I'd really appreciate it.
thats sounds nice , now about lair i think the game is ok but if you want a flight sim get ace combat for 360 or war hawk for ps3.
I played lair it's nice but it's kind of like piloting a dragon like a f1 jet it dose get fun from time to time but it looks funny.
Its good just has little replay value. I will trade it in to put money down on HAZE!
Visually the game is nice and controls are decent... just everything else was garbage. The game was hard and unforgiving, now I don't mind hard games (ie Ninja Gaiden) as long it's intentional and not due to poor planning or gameplay.
I came to the realisation a while ago that i shouldn't listen to what reviewers say. And im pretty sure that alot of review companies get bribed. An obviously imperfect game that is Halo 3 gets 10/10s across the board, while a genuinly fantastic game like Heavenly Sword gets 7/10 from IGN. Thats an example of why i don't listen to reviews. Had i listened to reviews my whole life, i would have never played some of most favourite games
Yet i like it when some review companies show guts. The reviewers who give Halo 3 8.5 and Famitsu who have ignored everyone else and given Lair 82%. Maybe Famitsu is an honest reviewer. I've always liked Japanese games, i think i'll have to listen to them a bit more
Famitsu = Bookmarked