Submitted by GlobalSoldier 1632d ago | news

Sony is recruiting hackers?

PSX-Sense Writes: "Something we wouldn't expect from Sony; they are recruiting hackers for a job at SCEA. A hacker named Koush got an e-mail, which is 100% real, from Sarah McRae which works onsite at the Talent Acquisition department. He had been asked for a job at the R&D Departmen at Sony, we're sure KaKaRoToKS isn't the only hacker which has been contacted by Sony. As a proof Koushposted a screenshot of the e-mail." (PS3, Sony)

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a_bro  +   1632d ago
there you go Hackers, this is what you wanted, right?
Izanagi-no-Okami  +   1632d ago
Not sure if this is what they wanted.
Tony-Red-Grave  +   1632d ago
i think its because through all this whats his face didnt go oiut trying to get as much attention as possible like geohot
Heartnet  +   1632d ago
They cant want it that much if he turned it down becuz of geohot :L
inveni0  +   1631d ago
Any hacker stupid enough to respond to something like this deserves to be sued/arrested/whatever. If anything, they're just attempting to confirm identity.
MintBerryCrunch  +   1631d ago
sued, arrested?

dumbass logic is too easy

the guy hasnt openly stated any bad will towards sony like the guy who had his house raided...how do you think the worlds biggest banks around the world protect their investments...some find hackers to secure their software systems...its as though hackers can do no right with N4G
JLeVRT  +   1632d ago
I dont know about this...
ExplosionSauce  +   1632d ago
Probably better to have hackers put their talent to good use.
darkdoom3000  +   1632d ago | Funny
It's a trap!
SlyFoxC  +   1632d ago
LMAO!! (just got a bubble from me!)
SoapShoes  +   1632d ago
Now they'll have money to afford games!
dantesparda  +   1632d ago
snaz27  +   1632d ago
Lol thought i'd post this here, as it seems appropriate somehow! Lmao... I'm sorry if what i'm about to say is common knowledge but i do quite a bit of reading on the net extra and i've never seen it before today, so please excuse my ignorance if it's already known... Anyway omg just found out how to DOWNLOAD YOUTUBE VIDS! using only the ps3 browser! And in HD NO LESS! lol... Anyone interested to know how? Lmao... Or am i an evil pirate? Ha ha. I'm blown away by this to be honest! But i bet you all already know about it lol.
hiredhelp  +   1632d ago
This is the best move Sony has made. Should made this move soon as it was hacked with JB, these hackers sent daft they eat and sleep this stuff.
Sony can learn more than they know now fight crime with a criminal mind.
xAlmostPro  +   1632d ago
I reckon it was KaKaRoToKS that helped sony with the latest get around ;)
syanara  +   1631d ago
This is the best decision ive seen from sony about the Hacking problem yet. Hackers tend to be the best defense you can have against other hackers If sony can hire them then Sony has a better shot at protecting against piracy
hellzsupernova  +   1632d ago
i still highly doubt this they could've hacked their email right? lol. i bet geohot doesnt get one :P
ugabugaz  +   1632d ago
If you can't beat them, Join them! Although Sony did beat them, so it's kind of odd. Hmm. Not too sure how legit this email is. It would be quite easy to make this screencap.
Renewman  +   1632d ago
If it is true....
that would explain why Kakarot is backing down from hacking 3.56. You don't get sued, don't go bankrupt, and you get to use your skills on Sony's payroll and possibly see the development of the PS4 and NGP and you had something to do with it? Sounds pretty sweet to me.
peowpeow  +   1632d ago
He declined though, I would've taken that job offer in the blink of an eye :P
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KwietStorm  +   1632d ago
That's the difference between you (and people who think like you) and hackers. They would rather "fight for the greater good" and go against authority for the fuck of it, rather than to put their obvious talents to some kind of credible use. They could potentially put money in their family's pockets and secure their entire future, but that's not even on their radar. Sad really.
Biggest  +   1632d ago
This is just a farce hoping to convince easily convinced people that the hacker that said he'll stop at 3.55 had extra incentive to stop. I'm no where near a hacker and I've been able to make extremely convincing screen captures of many things. I can remember getting my first apartment, with the WORST credit known to man, thanks to my official bank statement saying that I had $27,000 in savings. Sony isn't hiring hackers because they're hackers. However, I'm sure they'll hire one without knowing they're one if they haven't already.
NewMonday  +   1632d ago
Didn’t GeoHot ask Sony to contact him to work on their security?
ElementX  +   1632d ago
Thing about suing is, you can sue for $100,000 in damages but if the defendant doesn't have it, you don't get it. Going bankrupt is a minor issue, it affects your credit for about 7 years
Renewman  +   1632d ago
Minor for most adults.
At age 21 or younger, that's a huge factor on establishing any kind of credit for anything you need such as a car, house, apartment, etc. It's not an end-all-be-all, but it makes life very difficult.
christoph203  +   1632d ago
woa this guy is an idiot to turn down a job just because geohot didn't get one, once in a life opurtunity.
princeofthabay  +   1632d ago
and i bet they don't know each other personally
blahblah  +   1632d ago
just what is so special on working for large corporation and being easy replaceable drone with number instead of name?
GodofSackboy  +   1631d ago
Dude, this is a trap by Sony. They want him to ring Sony so they can record the call and get evidence of his identity. Valve tried to do exactly the same thing to the guy who leaked Half Life 2.
ziggurcat  +   1632d ago
this could possibly explain why kakarotoks has stated he will not try to hack FW 3.60.
CernaML  +   1632d ago
Wouldn't be surprised if this was a trap. MySpace did it before. Valve tried doing it as well.
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Ddouble  +   1632d ago
Backup story? Sounds interesting.
DangerTick  +   1632d ago
Kind of reminds me of that HL2 story where Valve offered the hacker a job so he would come into the country and they could arrest him.
--------  +   1632d ago
Same here, the one where the German Police got to him first in order to keep him within their jurisdiction and deal with him on their terms - thought that was pretty awesome.
a_bro  +   1632d ago
HAHAHHA thats a funny story
jeeves86  +   1632d ago
I think that's the case here lol
MrBeatdown  +   1632d ago
I still don't understand why people think "hiring the hackers" is a new or good idea.

The people already at Sony are just as knowledgeable. They did build the PS3 after all which up until a few months ago was the most secure system. And they potentially re-secured the PS3 as well. Just because you are a "hacker" doesn't somehow make you more qualified than someone who doesn't consider themselves a "hacker".

The only difference is that the guys at Sony used their skills to get a good job and create something and earn themselves a decent salary instead of breaking something, rapping about it, and trying to get famous on the internet.
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KwietStorm  +   1632d ago
The difference is that generally, hackers think differently than professional coders. This is exactly why they are able to hack through security. It's not necessarily just about your resume or what you do on paper. Everyone with eyes can see trees with green leaves and brown bark, but when you vision it in your mind, can you paint a picture of it? If that sounds overly philosophical, then that's the point.

You're right, hiring hackers isn't a new idea, but several companies have done it, if not for anything else, just because those hackers were better at doing certain tasks than those who were currently on the payroll. If you look at it that way, then it's really just hiring new, possibly more adept employees.
MrBeatdown  +   1632d ago
That's a good point. I didn't necessarily mean that hiring those with a hacker mindset is a bad idea or anything, just that those who have the brain to actually pursue a career rather than become nerd famous is the better choice, and that there could be people already working at Sony like that.

Bubbles up for you sir.


That would definitely be the smart thing for Sony to do if they aren't already doing it. I just meant that Sony likely goes with those who are more professional about it and not the guys making a spectacle out of themselves on the internet.

Bubbles up for you too.
8thnightvolley  +   1632d ago
and to add to what dude below said.. some people are called breakers" are hired by companies what their job is basically, is to try to destroy or hack into a system of that company so for instance these hackers could be hired in a cell and their job is to try to hack the ps3 which teaches sony how to even secure it harder and they keep trying till its so hard for a day one hacker to even go deep coz its already be done b4 so they knw.

that a very good reason to higher hackers, alot of software companies do it MS included.
blahblah  +   1632d ago
easier to explain is if you use ordinary software for example. you can have whole set of coders that worked on it testing for few months and they will find very low number of mistakes.

now, put some secretary who doesn't know much about computers and even less about that software. in 1 day you'll get 1 year worth of feedback from previous case.

now... why is that? coders were simply limited on constantly testing things inside the working limits. they knew too much how software should be used and its limitations, while secretary made all sorts of dumb things coders couldn't even imagine in their worst nightmare.

same goes for security designers. now... lets say you hired hacker to crack what that designer did. most of them are versatile to fix as soon as they see problem. fixing is much less of trouble than finding when you were the one designing limitations.
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kaozgamer  +   1632d ago
but why? what if the hacker secretly starts leaking security information about the ps3
Vesemir  +   1632d ago
He'll be strained by hundreds of legal terms that will screw his ass if he fails to comply.
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Vesemir  +   1632d ago
If you can't beat 'em, you buy 'em.
NnT3291  +   1632d ago
That's what I was gonna say
thebudgetgamer  +   1632d ago
yea, and if you go down to the police station they have a shiny new boat waiting for you.
yume-k  +   1632d ago
Desperate struggle eh -_-"
jeeves86  +   1632d ago
It's a trap, and I think the hackers know that.

Recruiters do not open positions, either - it comes from higher up in the company. Recruiters are notified of positions that open up and find suitable talent to fill that opening. Typical recruitment letters would entail more about what the position requires, possibly a salary range, and time to set up a possible interview. This e-mail has none of that.

Either it's a trap, or this is an elaborate ruse by hackers to show how hardcore dedicated to the cause they are. Would you SERIOUSLY turn down a well-paying prestigious position because they ruffled some other asshole's feathers? REALLY? Why even bother posting the response?

I'm actually more inclined to believe the latter.
InspectorG  +   1632d ago
Spoiler from KZ3

Oh the irony - I remember a thing like this happening in KZ3, round them up and kill them all by offering peace :)
SlyFoxC  +   1632d ago
im pretty sure this guy doesnt want the job because if he does hack the ps3 again and is on sony's payroll......that would be very bad for him lol

on a side note....sony call me or email or whatever...i would love the job....can i do it successfully...probably not but hey i still get the name tag!
Donthizz  +   1632d ago
hackers screwing hackers, i like where this is going...
MysticStrummer  +   1632d ago
I'm not sure why we wouldn't expect this from Sony. I'm not surprised at all, if it's true that is. It's a good idea but not new.
NotSoSilentBob  +   1632d ago
It doesn't make sense to hirer hackers. If Sony or any software company does they are just asking for anyone everyone to break the DMCA and show them "Hey I can do this without your consent Hire me now!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Lawliet  +   1631d ago
I told you right these guys are technically competent, but lack senses. Koush turning down a once in a life time opportunity just because he doesn't want to betray geo who probably doesn't even know him personally.. Maybe Koush just doesn't want the job, but that message is too lame.

I can't believe that there are people out there that thinks both are on at a bloody war, and you gotta pick a side and swear your bound.. Dude this is your "LIFE" FCK geo, he can rot in his house or jail for whoever cares. There isn't a side to choose to begin with.. You gotta know you crackers are the ones causing damages here. Being a business corporation, Sony is just doing their job to secure their property for themselves and others. From their employees to the game developers are all working hard day and night to bring us gamers the games and to support their families. Especially this year, haven't been the best of year. The economy is once again in crisis due to the nature's catastrophe. Yet people like geo and failoverflow just want some attention that they hacked the unhackable PS3..

It is like bank robbers boldly guns out, pack the bags with the money and think they can just walk out and claiming WE FUKED A BANK WHAT YOU GONNA DO?! Dude if I'm a police and I'm at scene, I would SHOOT U! And everyone would be happy.
kuroukage  +   1631d ago
Well if this is true I'd say Sony is smart. Admitting defeat and then having the same guys who broke your security redesign a stronger one and keeping them on to manage it. Just makes good business sense for them to have the best security team they can get no matter where they come from. After their new design gets broken into...well, I'd worry about job security soon after. ;)

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