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Submitted by dirkdady 1285d ago | article

PS3 hacker reveals Sony’s three step “epic save” fix

Gamer.Blorge writes, "A notorious PS3 hacker has commented on Sony’s latest firmware update to fix the piracy issue on the console. Apparently the company has a broad overarching strategy that may be an “epic save.”"

Gamer.Blorge writes, "KaKaRoToKS recently tweeted that he believes Sony is implementing a fool-proof three step solution which should completely fix the exploit discovered by the hackers." (PS3, Sony)
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Nitrowolf2  +   1286d ago
and they said it could never be fixed
unhackable? nothing is, but i bet it will be some time now before they can actually hack the FW again. They still haven't done it with 3.56 and that's been out for some time now.

so where are all those people who said Sony can't patch this up because it would render all past games useless?

I agree with KaKaRoToKS statement, people (Hackers) should be fine with what they have. No reason for them to be online ruining the community.
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MintBerryCrunch  +   1286d ago
the problem is that the patches that they have implemented so far since 3.55 should have been done when the console launched....to have such a huge security flaw only took away from making ACTUAL firmware updates that bring new features to the console, instead of security patch after security patch
insomnium2  +   1285d ago
Well we did get cloud savings just now didn't we?
ksense  +   1285d ago
god I still remember those days when so many people were laughing at Sony and kept taunting that they can't do anything about it and that it cannot be fixed via software update and needs a hardware revision and they should start looking to bring the next console lol. This should be a slap in their faces lol
FailOverFail  +   1285d ago | Well said
Well you need to remember the only way they broke the PS3 is because they stole a key to "open up the system". So Sony couldn't have anticipated this that far back. They have a track record of what, 4-5 years of the PS3 being completely secure? Then suddenly someone is reported to have stolen a certain "key to the PS3" of sorts and the PS3 is hacked.

And I'm not going to lie, after playing some PS3 games online, I'd much rather get this problem out of the way first before they add any new features. But look, Sony went above and beyond and gave us Cloud Saving when they could have just pumped out a security FW update instead.

Btw, if you had a brain you would know to blame the hackers for Sony having to push these updates. If they avoided hacking the PS3, we wouldn't need them.
sikbeta  +   1285d ago
@Mint

The important thing is that Sony could fix this, also there goes the hackers with their arrogant attitude like that failoverflow group talking about fail and flaws and how Sony would never be able to fix this and stuff, but they couldn't go far into hacking by their own "merits", if the root-key or whatever wasn't stolen in first place, they sure would be trying with no success :P
MaxXAttaxX  +   1285d ago
These people need to get a life.
Istanbull  +   1285d ago | Funny
GLORY TO SONY, GLORY TO HELGHAST, DEATH TO THE ISA!
rbrtchng  +   1285d ago
Yeah MintBerryCrunch! Every single piece of technology should be released absolutely hack-proof. Sony's stupid for creating the ONLY piece of tech that was hack-able.

/sarcasm
KillerBBs  +   1285d ago
Hey! I didn't give you permission to use my kids photo.
DAS692  +   1285d ago
Yeah but...
Let's not forget... it took hackers all the way until 3.55 to get it right, and the system is well above maturing now... so it's not like it's something they knew about the whole time... thus the term "patch".
Axecution  +   1285d ago
*reads MintBerryCrunch's comment"
*Sigh*

*reads KillerBBs comment*
lol. damn that was unfunny xD
*Closes browser*
Lawliet  +   1285d ago
Believe it or not failoverflow or geohot probably ain't the first to discover the exploit. I certainly believe that there are other groups already successfully cracked the PS3 way before them, but just like every professional hackers they just want to sharpen up their skills not start up a damage control or a fame whore. IF you truly call yourself a black hat you should have know the first oath! Never reveals urself in public!

failoverflow and geohot might have an extend of technically knowledge, but they lack common sense.. Revealing themselves through youtube, posting their conference and lame raps saying WE HACK THIS NOW WHAT YOU GONNA DO?! Think about it in first place they hacked it simply for a lame excuse cause they want their OtherOS back, like wut?! They are just bunch of childish brats.. These people won't go far..
JackBNimble  +   1285d ago
Let's just hope that what KaKaRotoks says has some merit....I've had enough of these so called hackers and all the BullShit they've caused.

what's the point anyway in hacking/cracking the ps3 when you can do so much more on a pc?
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OneSneakyMofo  +   1284d ago
Just like the 360 was so secure at the beginning of their console launch... oh wait.
Tony-Red-Grave  +   1285d ago
what i love is how when sony gave them the option of either updating their ps3s or staying a FW back without the ability to access psn they strted trying to hack it but now they have that same option and their scared. all this could've been avoided in fact they contridict the reason to have even hacked the ps3 at all.

think about it they wantd OS they could've kept and ran homebrew there and have been in the same situation as now only less suing because with this sony has f'd them up.
rbrtchng  +   1285d ago
I agree. If hackers really weren't trying to pirate and just wanted to homebrew and people actually only wanted that, then they would've have tried to exploit the OtherOS for piracy, and the OtherOS would be an awesome feature with tons of homebrew features, and these hackers would still be able to play on the PSN.
Tony-Red-Grave  +   1285d ago
in case no oine understood what i ment il clear it up abit :)

if we look back at when sony removed OS they had given users two options: keep OS but lose the ability to go play on psn or update and lose OS but in return you can game online. well if hackers hadn't tried to hack the ps3 the users who bought a jailbreak wouldn't need one instead they'd be running their games off OS like originally intended.

now if we look back a few articles they said, failoverflow as well, they didn't care about online gaming they only wanted homebrew and OS when they could've just not updated and kept both without having any problems what so ever with sony. no instead they hacked the ps3 released the jailbreaks got sued for it got fined, im prety sure they didnt release OS, got noobs on psn ruining everyones online experince and pirated games.

oh aside from that they tried to hack themselves back onto psn and would've used a brand new ps3s console ID to do it. as youu guys see they onlyu did what they did for the same reason geohot did, mind you he took most of the credit in the end, their all attentiom whores.
SoapShoes  +   1285d ago
If nothing is unhackable, then nothing is unfixable. ;)
miyamoto  +   1285d ago
Nice baby pic!
so you mean any hack can be hacked also?

Hackers vs. Hackers

wow this world is going to be pretty set for Hacked Life!
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tacosRcool  +   1285d ago
hacking on a console ruins the experience for all, including those who have nothing to do with it
Electroshocked  +   1285d ago
LG and now this, looks like Sony is having a great year so far.
SephireX  +   1284d ago
@FailOverFlow
Take off your fanboy goggles and think. Sony made it possible for the root key to be extracted by the softweare they included in the PS3 at launch. That being the OtherOs feature. The key was not stolen. It was found. Hackers are going to hack and take advantage of loop holes. Thus, it is Sony's fault that the PS3 was hacked. They shouldn't have included the OtherOs feature in the first place but they did and have paid the price. A lot of people will stay offline and pirate costing devs money. That wouldn't be the case if Sony didn't include OtherOS. Its as simple as that.
MajestieBeast  +   1285d ago
Charlie Sheen:Winning.
jriquelme_paraguay  +   1285d ago
haha... i think this is a New Memme...

*WINNING*
pixelsword  +   1285d ago
my comment looks like spam, but...

http://randomgifs.com/image...
GoldPS3  +   1285d ago
EPIC WINNING
OGharryjoysticks  +   1285d ago
So if it's fixed what does this mean for Geohot since his hack is no longer aplicable?
theonlylolking  +   1285d ago
It has already happened so it still counts.
RedDevils  +   1285d ago
so if he won, or if he free to go, the hacker scene will be back to square one lol
TABSF  +   1285d ago
Very good for Sony.

One thing is for sure though, no software ever written is 100% secure.

And why are the mentioning piracy, these people cracked PS3 for running Apps and experimentation (Jailbreak) not gaming.

These guys probably have kickass PCs, why would they want or need to play PS3 games.

@ kesense

Well there is over 20 Million PS3s that are on version 3.55 or earlier.
Also Sony has implemented a hardware measure for extra protection, why wouldn't they.
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Mmmkay  +   1285d ago
20 million ? who's ass did you pull that out from?
TABSF  +   1285d ago
Fail0verflow's ass :)

Don't go there its gets really messy... :/
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dead_eye  +   1285d ago
The article mentions piracy. It says the first CF ever released was to copy games.
"KakARoToKS is a notorious PS3 hacker known for releasing the first custom firmware after the console was hacked. The custom firmware allowed others to pirate games on the console, which has become an uphill cat and mouse chase between Sony and the hackers."

No OtherOS just piacy.
Istanbull  +   1284d ago
how the f*ck do u know there are 20 million PS3s on 3.55 or earlier?

If nothing is unhackable, then nothing is unfixable.
littlebigmarcpsps3  +   1285d ago
LOL
yet after 2 weeks
people will crack it
its not 100% secure this is just for 3 or 4 weeks
PS3 fanboys here can kiss SONY ass all they want
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jut420  +   1285d ago
Right because the main hacker on the scene just said Sony secured it and he is not going to try to hack this
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Mmmkay  +   1285d ago
why is 3.56 still not hacked ? it's been more than 2 weeks... ? effing troll!
RedDevils  +   1285d ago
@Mmmkay because the 3.56 is the same shit as the 3.55, it's basically useless, unless they can't find a way to hack the 3.60 they will probably hack the 3.56 in about a month from now
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annus  +   1285d ago
@Mmmkay

Why would they hack it? What new feature did it add? Oh that's right, nothing.

There were ways to bypass shit and connect to PSN with 3.55, so it was pointless updating to the newer firmware that did nothing.
Godmars290  +   1285d ago
We shall see...
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awesomeperson  +   1285d ago
Can I ask...

Why do you WANT the PS3 to be hacked? Do you pirate or simply a fanboy?

Its better for all of us if these hackers GTFO even if they claim its for homebrew of course people will use it to hack, cheat and make other people miserable (MW2) and of course pirate games.

Not to mention Sony has to pour money into fixing hacks which could be used for other things.
buckley  +   1285d ago
3.56 has already existed for more than 2 weeks, my friend, and is not hacked.

The PS3 existed for 4-5 completely hack-less until the "key" was stolen.

No "key," no hack. Apparently they've managed to build a pretty darn secure console.
Orionsangel  +   1285d ago
Yeah well you can kiss hacker ass all you want. This isn't about kissing the ass of any particular company. It's about being able to play games on a secure service without having these asshole hackers fucking around with it. Such as cheating in COD and getting free trophies and banning who ever they want. Mess with the console all you want, but lay off the service!
SSKILLZ  +   1285d ago
Wow wow wow ! Who let you out of the cage.
Mister_G  +   1285d ago
Idea...

When someone on your friends list comes on-line your PS3 asks your friends PS3 a question which only an offical FW3.60+ machine can answer. If the answer is wrong or missing your PS3 reports the machine to Sony.

So 3.60 machines will help find the hacked machines.

It might be doing this already :)
SuperStrokey1123  +   1285d ago
why would other ps3s contact other ps3s? They could just contact the servers... makes noe sense to do it the other way.
Mister_G  +   1285d ago
Yeah, that's true.

Bad idea :-\
DigitalHorror81  +   1285d ago
It wasn't a terrible idea. I mean, think about it. Hackers cost legitimate gamers because of how badly Sony has to fight piracy financially. I buy my games as should everyone else. It's good for the industry. Look at how many developers are worried about losing money due to the hacking of ISOs. I could understand if you're emulating old hardware. Few people make money off of old Game Boy cartridges.
xtremexx  +   1285d ago
OOOOOOOO Sony Is Fantastic
Inzo  +   1285d ago
A hacker with solid reasoning, not out to exploit the PS3 to the core and didnt make a rap video about this?...........unheard of.
zoks310  +   1285d ago
"I won't be working on 3.6, i am happy with 3.55 homebrew."
Yeah ok KaKaRotoKs...... You and your nerdy friends are too pussy to try and hack 3.6 because Sony owned your pal Geohotz in federal court a few weeks ago. Dishonest scumbag....

Props to Sony for maning up to these hackers, leading the way Sony as always.....
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awesomeperson  +   1285d ago
His tone sounded like he didn't want to be the next one begging for donations. Maybe even sort of praising Sony to make sure they don't come after him.

I hope that is the case as it means that Geohots case is making an impression :D
M4ndat0ry_1nstall  +   1285d ago
Looks like Sony are putting the screws on KaKaRoToKS or lining his pockets.

Also Mike Ferro is a massive f*****.
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NexGen76  +   1285d ago
Now get these fools off PSN & the real fun going to start when game that require 3.60 to play....GAME OVER.Buy games & stop being cheap.
Undeadwolfy  +   1285d ago
I hope this hackers right.
diehardgamer1000  +   1285d ago
well how abt tht hackers.hv fun tryin to break tht.Sony is really on a roll,the LG stuff,and nw this?they gotta bitch-slap tht geo-NOT-SO-hot bastard back to the fuckin stone-age.
Winning  +   1285d ago
Fantastic. That's winning.
chadwarden  +   1285d ago
First the European shipment deal, now this. Sony is Bi-WINNING.
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TheGR  +   1285d ago
Duh, Winning!
Jihaad_cpt  +   1285d ago
TIGER BLOOD
Darkseeker  +   1285d ago
Until step 4 happens, which is the ps3 being completely hacked again and sony having to repeat all 3 steps again.
buckley  +   1285d ago
Went 4-5 years without being hacked. The "key" gets stolen and it gets hacked. No "key," no hack.

3.56 hasn't been hacked yet and they've already gone multiple steps further. Sounds like they've made a pretty secure system.

I guess the new "key" could always be stolen, but if it was that hard to get in the first place, chances are pretty good that steps have been taken to make that a lot more difficult this time.
Darkseeker  +   1285d ago
It'S always easier for hackers to do it a second time.

Also, I'd like to point out that 4-5 years without being hacked was a pretty long run. Most things get hacked within a year these days, Sony were just incredibly lucky, especially if the security was really like those hackers said.
radphil  +   1285d ago
"It'S always easier for hackers to do it a second time. "

That's not always true. Is it easier for a robber to go at the same place again with upgraded security?

You ever watch the show "To Catch a Thief". The only possible way things would be easier a 2nd time around is if they downgrade security.
ilovemyps3  +   1285d ago
hahaha

if geohotz is a genius or god... let's not forget Sony have dozens of genius/gods working.

all people supporting hacking on ps3, claiming it's all about homebrew, come here, in 2012, and write down a list of:

- all the excellent applications done on 3.56FW
- all the inovative games done on 3.56FW

and then, just tell us how many ps3 game rips were downloaded for free, to run on your famous 3.56 custom firmware.

and then, just realize you're already 24 years old and it's time to leave your small room at daddy's, get your first job and talk to girls for the first time (yeah, they really exist)
Darkseeker  +   1285d ago
I would assume it wouldn't bother people here so much if pirates were to remain offline.

I have a ps3 on 3.60 and a ps3 on 3.55. Never got a warning email since the one on 3.55 never connected to internet nor was a internet connection set up.

So I play online on the 30+ retail games I purchased on my 3.60 and just play homebrew on my 3.55. Yeah, I enjoy my online play cheat free like the rest of you and buy all my games and I am also on PSN Pus

My PS3 with 3.55 don't even have a single game pirated. So not only I bought all my games, but I even got a second PS3 by spending 299$ and it's not even use to pirate, but just for homebrew like emulators which could be easily obtained on PC. Games are too big anyway, waste of bandwidth, even if I have no cap.

I don,t support hackers, but I don't mind them either, as long as they don't ruin my online experience. PSN is actually free and it would suck to be denied a free service because hackers would ruin it.
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Whackedorange  +   1285d ago
I dont support hackers or their works but this is one of them and just cause he deceides on being happy there is still plenty that would like to get their bankaccount dry but their names famous for a little while.
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Darth_Bane79  +   1285d ago
LOL @ Hackers and all the fanboys that said that the PS3 was doomed!! And at the same time, I have a friend who has a modded CrapBox360, downloads illegal copies of games, and has been playing online with no consequence.. LMFAO!!!
hellzsupernova  +   1285d ago
lol dont be a fanboy ae. theres too many on here already. i had a modded 360 but i only ever pirated one game and that was madden then it rrod karma ae.
hellzsupernova  +   1285d ago
this whole time the hackers thought they had won. they htought they had outsmarted a multi million dollar company who has entire departments devoted to stoping thins sort of thing. now whos laughing? Sony had always anticipated this and they had a stratigy to put in place for when it happened.
Orionsangel  +   1285d ago
While I don't agree with hacking the PS3. That's fine. Use 3.55 to add whatever homebrew software you like and steal games. That's on you. I'm just glad they can't mess with the latest version of Sony's service.
RyuCloudStrife  +   1285d ago
from reading this article
i get sucha happy feeling at the bottom of my heart :) please stop trying to hack the PS3!!!!!
RockmanII7  +   1285d ago
Nothing is unhackable, but if right this will seriously delay the inevitable.
The_Zeitgeist  +   1285d ago
PS3 went nearly 4 years without being hacked. I believe this gets them back on track for another few years. Either way they will me monitoring the situation closely from here on out.
RockmanII7  +   1285d ago
Oh yea, for sure. I'm thinking that if Sony keeps this up the PS3 will get hacked after the PS4 is released.
ziggurcat  +   1285d ago
so much for "this can only be fixed with new hardware."
The_Zeitgeist  +   1285d ago
Congrats to Sony. This is some small good news in the face of much bigger and horrific news out of Japan today.
patsfan2007  +   1285d ago
Hackers get a freaking life.
GrumpyVeteran  +   1285d ago
I'll just stick with the older FW then.

For no particular reason.
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Bebedora  +   1285d ago
The baby on the picture was obvoulsly mad at an xbox breaking down..I would have been too
Look_Behind  +   1285d ago
Ill just stop on 3.55 thank you, I have been playing Killzone online (using a firmware spoof) for a couple of days because I rented it from LoveFilm. Once they patch the firmware spoof ill probably send Killzone back and just stick to offline games until they release Starhawk (hopefully) then I may update. Until then, PS3 offline games/homebrew, XBOX online games. Im content, bring on the Gears 3 beta XD
AntiHeroComplex  +   1284d ago
Sounds like you have it all figured out. Look at you all grown up and living in the real world. 2 consoles, and 1 is even hacked for homebrew! Surely your parents are proud, and you must have dozens of awards on your walls for the being the "bestest @ lyfe" ?

Shucks, if only the rest of us could be so savvy and slick like you Look_Behind. Your might and wit are unparalleled and envied by all here on N4G.

Id say good luck in life sir, but clearly you dont need it. You are just THAT good.

/s
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Look_Behind  +   1282d ago
Thanks mate hope your life turns out like mine you big fanboy :)

Normal people are expected to pay for their games. I believe I'm better than everyone as you so accurately described so I'm not normal im better. You keep paying.
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AntiHeroComplex  +   1282d ago
I default to this response: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

(and claim you are incorrect on all things by reason of insanity).
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