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Submitted by shanesgc 1608d ago | opinion piece

What Sony's NGP must do to dethrone Nintendo

Nintendo’s success in the handheld gaming market is unrivalled. System after system they have outsold the competition regardless of specs or features. Can Sony's NGP change all that? (3DS, Industry, iPad, iPhone, NGP, Nintendo, Nintendo DS, PS Vita, PSP, Sony)

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Shok  +   1608d ago
There's nothing it can do. You can't dethrone Nintendo in the handheld market.
Izanagi-no-Okami  +   1608d ago
Sales-wise no. But quality-wise yes
jony_dols  +   1608d ago
Sony dethroned the Nintendo as top dog in the home console business for over a decade (from 95-05).

So there is a chance that they may achieve a similar feat in the handheld market with the beaut that is the NGP.
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maniacmayhem  +   1608d ago
quality? The DS has a superior line of games compared to PSP.
sashimi  +   1608d ago
@maniac
yeah how about no Psp lineup > Ds lineup.
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schlanz  +   1608d ago
@sashimi
I want what you're smoking
Shok  +   1608d ago
Quality wise? The DS had higher-rated games than the PSP.

@jony_dols

The console market and the handheld market are 2 completely different things man.

If you honestly think th eNGP has the slightest chance of winning then you seriously have a bad case of fanboyism. Do you guys remember the GameBoy? GameBoy Color? GameBoy Advance? DS? All stomped the competition in the dust.
kaveti6616  +   1608d ago
I disagree. I feel like what Sony must do with the NGP is make games are unique to that handheld rather that just console ports.

Sony has so far demoed games like Killzone and Uncharted for NGP, which is great, but I don't want NGP to just be a portable PS3 game player.

It sounds great, but there should be experiences on the NGP that cannot be found anywhere else.

You can't find a fully-fledged Pokemon game on the Wii or the Gamecube, and I guess that's why the Nintendo Handhelds are so popular.

Pokemon is inexorably linked to the Nintendo handheld consoles.
blumatt  +   1608d ago
Well, Nintendo is porting games to its portable too. lol Mario games, anyone? Plus, there's a ton of ports that are making the launch lineup for the 3DS.

Sony IS making games that are unique to the NGP, as well as games that are also on PS3 (Killzone, Resistance, etc.). Have you not seen the game Little Deviants? That's just the start, I'm sure.

With all the new input methods (trackpad, motion controls, acclerometer, touchscreen, gyroscope) there's going to be tons of unique games on the NGP.

So, don't go and make it out like the PSP is the only system that gets console ports. The 3DS and the PSP2 will both have console ports as well as unique games.

Personally, I think it would be cool to buy the PS3 game and it come with a NGP copy of the game too. Then, you play the game on your PS3, and take your game save with you on the NGP and continue your game on the go. This would be especially helpful with sports games (2K basketball, Madden football, The Show baseball).
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kaveti6616  +   1608d ago
Relax, I was not saying anything critical.

Is there a switch on your back that's permanently stuck on "SDF" mode?
patapon  +   1608d ago
@kaveti6616

I'm not sure what you're talking about... blumatt had a pretty tame response.

Sony seems like they've made great strides to innovate with the back track pad. To make a unique experience if you will. I'm very excited about Little Deviants and what else we might see from the device

With that said, I think it IS impossible for Sony to claim the handheld sector as #1. Some things are just not possible. I do hope Sony is very successful, it's not like they can't be without being on top. I guess it all comes down to price... and I'm a little worried TBH
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kaveti6616  +   1608d ago
Blu matt said "So, don't go and make it out like the PSP is the only system that gets console ports."

He got defensive about it. Why?

All I said was that IF Sony brings unique experiences to NGP, then it will do well.

I didn't make a claim about what Sony was going to do.
rockleex  +   1608d ago
Although I usually don't agree with kaveti, he's right on this one.

DS has a LOT more games that can't be found anywhere else compared to the PSP.

Sony's handhelds need more social multiplayer handheld games such as Monster Hunter, Phantasy Star Portable, MGS Peace Walker, etc.

@kaveti:

There's no need for you to bring up SDF.
blumatt  +   1608d ago
Thank You Patapon
I was just saying that both the 3DS and PSP2 will have core games and niche and unique titles as well.
ExplosionSauce  +   1608d ago
That's not the point.
Since they're different. I would want both to be the best each can be.

I'm sure the NGP will be great with the whole networking side of things, like the web browser, Trophies and friends.
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jack_burt0n  +   1608d ago
COD and Monster Hunter at launch would be good business strategy.
karl  +   1608d ago
this is not SONY AND MS..

SONY AND NINTENDO CAN coexist with no problem...

i only feel respect for both ... and honestly NINTENDO fans can only found what they like in a nintendo platform..

the same for SONY's

there are exceptions though...
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JLeVRT  +   1608d ago
They can do it with:
-Games
-price
-games' price
-marketing
-anti-piracy

Its not that damn hard. They just didnt try with the PSP
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Lou-Cipher  +   1608d ago
The only thing the PSP2/NGP has to do to dethrone the 3DS is to have better games.

It doesn't matter if it sells more or less than the 3DS, as long as it has better games, IT WINS.

The same reason the PS3 is winning the console war. It is destroying every other platform in the quality game department.

Lets leave the sells for the executives and the investors.
Sharingan_no_Kakashi  +   1608d ago
Doesn't need to dethrone Nintendo. Just needs to be everything Sony said it would be.
StbI990  +   1608d ago
True, i just love N and S, why would their thrive to dethrone each other anyway...
Stealth20k  +   1608d ago
nope............by the time the ngp comes out in all regions (early 2012)

the 3ds will be selling millions and millions ahead in sales and have a better lineup of great games.

but that doesnt mean if the ngp gets original games it wont be good. the psp is great
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enkeixpress  +   1608d ago
Easy.. All Sony needs to do is release the hand-held as scheduled & make sure Call of Duty, Killzone & Uncharted release as scheduled as well..

& then job done.

NGP = Nintendo Got Pwned. Money rolls in for Sony. :)

Also, Alot of people don't quite understand that there is actually quite a bit of interest for Sony's NGP.. alot more than people seem to think. I think we're all going to be very surprised with just how many units this beast will sell.
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cm_  +   1608d ago
it's gonna be tough for the ngp and I don't think sony will out sell nintendo, they'll most likely lose out in any competitive price wars by putting the console price up too high. if nintendo can hold onto the markets which it gained with the ds then its gonna be plain sailing.
TheColbertinator  +   1608d ago
They cannot overthrow Nintendo but Sony can reshape a new market in their name again.A fresh start with the PSP catered to gadget fans and older gamers
Optical_Matrix  +   1608d ago
It doesn't need to. It just needs a powerful selection of games just like the PSP and DS before it and I'll be happy.
josephayal  +   1608d ago
Ooo nooo! Poor marioooo
VelvetHammer  +   1608d ago
I'm sure if all this social network mumbo jumbo was around back when the playstation first came out way back when everyone would be saying the samething. Nintendo cant be dethrown but yet look at what sony did. But in all honesty this article was stupid b/c he just reinterated what sony already said they were going to set out to do. Persnally im looking forward to the NGP more b/c out of all the things sony could have done to make this thing better was add the second stick. Everything else is just a bonus. Nintendo once again props for being different it truly makes u original in the end.
Close_Second  +   1608d ago
Don't care if it dethrones Nintendo. I want it to be a success in its own right.

So far, I'm holding off due to its disappointing form factor and lack of internal memory.
MoreRPG  +   1608d ago
does anyone know if i can play my psn games on the ngp???
DigitalHorror81  +   1608d ago
From what I've heard, PSN on the current PSP and PSP Go will carry over. :o)
maxcer  +   1608d ago
sony needs to pulls a horseshoe out of its ass and pray to god people buy the thing

$300 handheld to play on the bus? give me a break, save up and buy a car already
yugioh100  +   1608d ago
"What Sony's NGP must do to dethrone Nintendo"

besides giving up? hmmmm....

"Sales-wise no. But quality-wise yes"

Lol yeah right not anymore as everything out there is already caught up in the visual dept.
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supremacy  +   1608d ago
lol why would they give up? If they make profit of every psp sold? Its a business, one which they are merely starting to get hang off.

Relax things have only begun.

Just know Nintendo will do its thing and be fine, dont need to knock anyone else.
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eagle21  +   1608d ago
Nintendo knows what they are doing. You need handheld specific software and franchises that are popular for handheld gaming. That's it. :)
CDbiggen  +   1608d ago
Correct. One word, Pokemon.
blackburn5  +   1608d ago
First of all Sony doesn't have to dethrone Nintendo's 3DS. People seem to forget that not only did the PSP have 80 million people but is still doing very well in Japan. That is 80 million people plus potential buyers many waiting for the next generation PSP. Secondly, Nintendo and Sega were top dogs before and Sony who never made a system before and kicked Nintendo low and drove Sega out of the console business. They seemed unbeatable too until the PS2 came in. So all the nonsense about Sony never beating Nintendo in handheld is BS.It's not impossible to reach the heights or beat the 3DS.

Lastly the DS was full of ports too just like the 3DS is now. The PSP had several games that were not only mere ports e.g. the Killzone game and Daxter and several games unique to the system as well. So before you jump to say the NGP will be just ports remember that Nintendo has several ports as well like SF4, MGS3 and OOT and we have seen that there will be other games as well in trailers for the NGP.
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NoobJobz  +   1608d ago
To beat DS, Sony needs to somehow steal the pokemon series from them.
schlanz  +   1608d ago
To beat DS Sony needs an awesome MMO.
lizard81288  +   1608d ago
Nintendo really crushes its competition in the handheld market, Sega, NeoGeo, N-Gauge, ect.

I'm Surprised Sony has lasted this long, kudos to them, but there is no way they can dethrone.

Pokemon alone crushes the PSP

if sony still wants to be in the running, they need a cheap price & good games.
yugioh100  +   1608d ago
"Lastly the DS was full of ports too just like the 3DS is now."

lol yeah ok and it still buried the psp, and the same thing will happen again.

"Nintendo really crushes its competition in the handheld market, Sega, NeoGeo, N-Gauge, ect."

Very true seems like your the only person in here besides me that knows that, and everyone that buy's things made by sony will always think it's the greatest thing in the world. Sheep wil be sheep though, but people just don't understand that without games even the best system in the world is worthless in the end.
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Masterchef2007  +   1608d ago
I honestly dont believe that Sony will be able to dethrone Nintendo. Because Nintendos fanbase is just to large.

However i will say this. The 3DS wont sell as well as the DS not because of the Tech but because of price. The previous console the DS launched at a price of 150€ which is why it sold so well when compared to its more expensive rival the PSP (250€)

If rumors are true than the price of the base NGP will be under 300€ which is dangerously close to the 3DSs price of 250€ and i am sure that a lot of people will buy an NGP over a 3DS because of their similar pricing. The NGP obviously offers more advanced tech than the 3DS so so some paying 20€ extra for it is more than worth it.

PS. On a second thought i can imagine some people not buying a 3DS because they feel that they are paying 100€ extra because of the 3D screen.
FinalomegaS  +   1608d ago
2 japanese companies that are somewhat aimed at specific markets.

Do you expect a mother to go and buy an expensive piece of Hardware to keep her 3 kids quiet? Synonimous with children and family would be Nintendo, and Sony gets the higher end with the price tag type for a little older to early 20s type.

But the thing is Nintendo opened that gate targeting everyone with their touch generation games ( everyone).

Imo i find Nintendo is like Mcdonalds and Sony is like BurgerKing... man thats bad I'm so damn hungry it's coming out when I type... gtg

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