Thanks to a helpful tipster, engadged.com have a couple of Best Buy documents showing a $399 Playstation 3 with 40GB disk and Spiderman 3 bundle with an "In Stock Date" of October 28.
So it, $399 PS3 bundle with Spiderman is Sony's big announcement. Makes sense and has more than enough backing the idea up.
http://www.n4g.com/industry... http://realdealgaming.blogs... since in stock date would be the 28th would make sense for the street date to be a couple days later?
Company info is no longer secure. People need to start getting sued in order for info to stop bleeding out. It may seem like good news to us, but for investors and companies leaked information like this has a financial impact. Anyhoo $399 PS3 for Chrismas anyone???
does this have to do with the "big bang"?
I agree Violater. All this leaked info is going to lead to no one buying a PS3 untill the end of October. Sony needs to plug up all of these leaks.
it is still a big bang announcement for a lot of people. Most people dont hang on N4G and dont know that a 40GB model is on the works, imagine their surprise when they discover it comes with Spiderman 3 included! My major concern is what will be sacrificed in order to meet the $399 price tag. We already know it has "better" wi-fi so its still there. Im afraid that if its downgraded too much people may not buy it, though if it has new 65nm chips and card readers are removed it may be enough to make it cheaper and no more features might get disabled.
this is a good move by Sony, there are good number of great games out now and a lot more coming this and next month, if it hits the streets this month it would be good. It will give holiday shoppers enough time to hear about it and add it to their list.
They should have put Fall of man or Warhawk (the ONLY good games) with that and plug it like crazy.
I'm buying this. Although I hope they'll have another bundle that comes with a game instead of a movie. That rumored Ratchet and Clank bundle perhaps? But I can definitely see where Sony's coming from here. Spiderman 3 is going to sell a ton, and is sure to help the Ps3 some.
cant be that announcement. not really a big bang is it
Well, you do need to hype things and sony is good at it! EDIT: @below Sorry, I couldn't know it, because there never are any ads at all for ps3, 360 or even teh wii where I live. But as far as I can read from the net, I'd say they can hype, ofcourse nothing beats halo 3 hype.
like me($565 actually). But Sony doesn't really seem to care about those people. But I can see it swaying others to buy it. I mean a $200 drop in less then a year (sure you lose 20 gigs but you can replace it anytime) plus a free movie plus 5 more free movies via mail in rebate is a good deal.
Sony are useless at hyping anything. There biggest game out so far (Heavenly Sword) has had little to no advertising, Warhawk gets no publicity and I bet if you asked 10 people on the street they wouldn't even know it's multiplayer only. Not to mention, when was the last advert for the actual PS3??
Can you blame them? The last game they hyped was Lair, and we all know what that turned out like.
Most people don't know a 40Gb is comming, it was so far a rumor, so it is a big announcement. What did you expect: NASA is using a PS3 to run a ship to space, and launch a NASA bundle? It could come back in one piece. I would not try that with a Xbox. "Houston we have a red Ring, can you call Bill to pick me up. What it will take a month!!!!"
im still not entirely convinced sony will win holiday season. no one will win against wii but they will do very well, it will keep them in it LEADING UP TO 2008. unreal with mods will get some people, and rachet will get some people. although uncharted will most likely be tripple AAA, it wont get to many because its a new ip. but i also dont think mass effect for 360 will get alot of people. they will get a certain fanbase but thats it, because those type of games dont normally get to the casual gamer. (weather it gets good reviews or not, the freakin gameplay IS TALKING) LOL but anyway, this will defenitely get the ps3 rollin. and if anybody dissagrees, TELL ME WHY BECAUSE I KNOW ALOT OF YOU CANT DO THAT VERY WELL. WELL IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THAT IS KINDVE A BIG BANG FOR PEOPLE WHO DONT HAVE PS3'S THAT WERENT SUPPOSED TO HEAR ABOUT THIS. THINK, THE PS3 AND 360 AT THE SAME PRICE, AND SOME PARENT WALKS IN THE STORE AND SEES THEM BOTH AROUND THE SAME PRICE, WILL PROBABLY GO WITH THE PS3 BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE PLAYSTATION BRAND, (I BET THERE KID HAS HAD A PS2)
I'm glad that it will open up the market and make it more affordable. I've had mine from release and love it but one thing bothers me about this new SKU..... If the rumoured backward compatability has been completley removed I think this is a huge mistake as this new SKU would be what PS2 owners have been waiting for but with their back catalogue of Ps2 games made useless, will they upgrade????
HEY, PANDA BEAR. We dont take to kindly to yer types round here. Just kidding. Who said anything about removing BC? I haven't read that. I dont believe that for a second.
They have removed Emotion Engine chip, so there won't be any hardware emulation. But it'll do software emulation like 80gb model, and 90% games are already compatible.
Yeah, I also think they're going to add a chip that allows you to play Xbox 1 games. But then again, that's only the rumor.
A 4 hundered dollar PS3 is a pretty big deal. Its just what PS3 needs. That and for no more delayed games this year. We still dont have Lair in Australia. This price cut and R&C, Uncharted, UT3, Haze and maybe a LBP, MGS4 and KZ2 demo thrown in this year will sell plenty of PS3 before Christmas.
This is reminiscent of the Circuit City ads that came out a week or so before the official 60GB price drop. It will be a good holiday season indeed.
This is exciting news. Only problem is, who's gonna buy the system between now and then and waste all that money? Anyway, it probably will mean a large boost in sales for November and December. Now Sony just needs some good games to come out! This certainly gives me a reason to wait a bit longer before deciding which 'hardcore' system to buy.
imo Sony has made some sh!tty move this generation but finally having a competitive price point can't be wrong. they need to advertise the ps3 with the new lower price like crazy.
399$ PS3 with nothing is AWESOME offer, but if you add blue ray Spiderman 3!? Than it is incredible offer and it will sell like CRAZY!
Sad thing is that it seems that this SKU is only for NA :/
Not necessarily http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...
1. They came out with a expensive console to make people say WOW when price goes down. 2. Sony needed time to settle and work on to catch up on MS cause the 360 came out earlier. 3. Sony needed time to test the console on field. 4. Sony needed time to send developer kits and make them confortable to program for PS3. 5. Sony needed time to reduce cost with supplyer. 6. PS2 Last so far 7 year's this one will least 10 year's, so they have time to experiment 7. There is 200m people that have a PS2 that wait for a price cut to buy PS3. Sony know what their doing, it is a war, and SONY is working on a long term, Wii and Box are going to be left BEYOUND.
1-They thought The name Sony was enough to get people to shell out $600 bucks for a game system...They were DEAD WRONG 2-I dont care how many PS2 there are if the new system does not have killer games it will not sell . 3- Blue ray is not a reason most people will care about enough to buy. 4- When you shoot yourself in the foot you go to the hospital and get it fixed.....I guess Sony does not understand that.
in the price wars now. The 360 had great sales at this price point, and I don't see the PS3 doing any worse at this point in time. It'll only keep picking up steam now, and I'm sure that by next fall this model, which will probably become 60GB, and the highend, which will then most likely be 100-120GB, will be at least $350 and $450 respectively. Just in time for Killzone 2 to drop and kick the hype train into warp speed. I just hope the results don't mirror those of Event Horizon. :P
They should give a refund to all the suckers that paid $600 earlier. Kinda what Apple did for all its customers with the iPhone. That's what you call a company knowing they made a mistake with the price and compensate its customers. Sony on the other hand just painted a big fat SUCKER sign right across your face. So I guess that makes 4.8 million suckers!
the original price point was fine IMO and the fact that sony are trying to reduce cost of manufacture and pass this onto its consumers is only a good thing. you obviously one of those biased twats who is more interested in spamming crap about games/systems than playing them. did you moan when the xbox dropped it price? probably not. what a tit.... edit: you bash sony for reducing its price by $200 in a year yet celerbrate M$ for dropping $50 in over 2 years? i guess you could call that fanboy logic, or what i personally like to call RETARDID. just out of interest, does your mum still have to spoon feed you?
How many price drops has this console had in its 10 months of existence??? While the 360 has been out almost 2 years before its first price drop. And it was only $50 compared to a whopping $200. $200 after only 10 months??? No other console has ever done that. Maybe....the 3DO :) Sony knows it's getting its ass whooped by Microsoft and this was a must. Desperate times calls for desperate measures.
And you are actually happy about that??? O_o Talk about M$ brainwash.
You're bragging about not getting price drops yet to complain PS3 is too expensive. You're either insane if you believe it or just an absolute fukhead if you dont. I seem to recall Xbox1 dropped its price $AU250 just a 3 months after launch. Where was your complaining then? A price drop is a good thing you moron, no matter what the reason. I called this in March so its no big surprise.
Just shut up and buy the damn console already ;) We all know you're gonna. See on Warhawk soon
"A price drop is a good thing you moron, no matter what the reason." Tell that to the 100k people that bought a ps3 last month. Idiots.
Yeah, it is, considering most stores have 30 day return policies including price drops. And even if it's over 1 month it's neutral to them, they didn't lose anything did they?
You are a complete moron. So what about x360 owners that bought one before the price drop and the falcon?. You are just spewing garbage and you know it. Any early adopter know the price they pay for adopting early tech.Is this so hard for you to comprehend?. I am an early PS3 adopter myself and i have no regrets because i got to play Resistance 9 months ago as well as Motorstorm etc.I have no regrets unlike my friend that had his x360 die on him.
hopefully they rool this out world wide, more units sold only helps to get developers on side and thats good for all us ps3 owners! even those who paid twice that, like me =).
Pac-man and pong are going to be included!!!! Wow
how is it that we are fools, SONy knew and knows what they are doing, its a matter of time before SONY DESTROYS MS and NINTENDO again
If the games coming out for PS3 soon, turn out to be worthwhile, then this deal could be what i've been waiting for.I'll wait to see how the $399 translates to sterling,but with a correct exchange rate, i'm sold on this one.One question though.Will this model include the new 'rumble'pads?
or there is this fantom disagreer again? EDIT: Jup, he's here! lol
I am Buying ! for Uncharted and RnC !
have you guys every thought, and not to be offensive, that sony's big bang announcement may include more than 1 thing? instead of saying, it could be this or it could be that, is it possible that it could be both? we'll wait and see.
Will drop the price again next summer to $299, and by then will have a userbase of atleast 8million when the games like FF and MGS4 (KillZone 2) come out. They will be able to compete with Microsoft and Nintendo early. 2008 is when Sony steps into the ring cos up till now they've just been asleep watching Microsoft and Nintendo
People ask me why I don't buy a 360 and I say because of the community and everyday my point gets proven. "Sony knows it's getting its ass whooped by Microsoft and this was a must. Desperate times calls for desperate measures." Yeah and by the end of 2008, Sony will be on top again, take that to the bank. 2008 is quite the huge year for PS3, bunch of huge titles, $400 price point, rumble. Yeah I think you're posting this because you know what's comming, so enjoy, it won't last for too much longer.
How does Sony not have rumbel on its controlers? So now you have to spend $50 bucks for another one?
i got admit i'm an Xbox loyalist, but dropping the price of the premium only $50 after two years?? only $20 off the core?? give me a break!! They could have opened the flood gates by dropping the core to the "sweet spot" of $199 to compete with the Wii, and the premium down to $299. M$ could have gained a huge lead and cemeted first place, instead Wii is in first and now PS3 is coming back strong. Now Sony will get that huge jump I beleive. $400 for a next gen gaming/movie console with spiderman included and 5 more blu-ray movie by mail..... this is the deal to get this holiday season. No one will be able to see the logic of getting a $349 xbox if they can get a blu-ray player, 6 blu-ray movies, rumble AND motion bluetooth controllers, free online and 20 gigs extra....ALL that extra for just $50 more (the cost of xbox live for a year)
FirstknighT is very happy that M$ cut the price in 2yrs only for 50$/20$
you will be able to play on line for free. By this time next year you will have to pay, belive it.
why are sony not going in hard with the sell and going at microsoft core. If you own a console for 5 years and want to play online the PS3 is free and the 360 will work out at $250 over the 5 years. That make the PS3 a lot cheaper. This needs pushing at the selling point as MS don't put it on the box clearly so by the time you work out what silver give you you can't take it back and have to pay your $50. Sony should be putting this on the box and pushing the $50 a year saving
regardless of what some people on this site would have you believe. remember if we can see obvious problems im sure the people at sony would have noted these far before us. theres a reason why we're all spamming a forum and they actually do it for a job, although, once again im sure plenty of people on here believe they could do it better.
I agree in some ways but I think the eye was clearly off the ball. 1,50% of PS3 owners don't know they have a bluray player. This is now been resolved but it took them time. 2,How many PS3 owner look shocked when you say you have a 160gig version and it only cost $80 and did not invalidate you warrenty. 3,Multi media function via simple clear adverts. Eisa winner media hub of the year.
How in the hell does anyone that buys a PS3 not know it has a BR player, those people must be really stupid. Theres a big symbol on the front of the box that says BR player.
so many consumers were turned off by the original price of the ps3 that this may go completely unnoticed. or this could be the spark that sony needs. who knows? i know i personally won't be making the purchase because there are too many unresolved issues. rumor: no bc in 40gig, no usb support, no media card reader, and no dual shock 3. these are all features that are "rumored" to not be in the 40gig. supposedly that's how sony is able to offer it at $399. to educated gamers, the lack of these features could be a deal breaker.
every 'issue' as you call them is pure speculation and none are confirmed... no BC.... BC is dont purely on software, dropping that wont save ANY money. no usb... speculation, also why drop usb then you wouldnt be able to buy sonys add-ons such as the new EYEtoy, also id like to know how they plan to charge contollers without usb, so i doubt that will be dropped. no media card... most people who play games console dont even know/want media card reader, ive had them on pc's for years and never use them once. no dual shock 3... well thats not even released to next year so thats pretty obvious. i would hold my horses if i was you and wait till some if any of this is confirmed rather the believeing the tripe that gets blurted out by fanboys on a forum.
So many stories/rumors on almost every site and we pretty much know it't true. I think they were like 10 stories about the 40 GB PS3 bundle on this site alone in one day. WE ALL KNOW IT'S COMING PPL!!!!
two more sold, my two friends wait this for changed there ps2. And I believe many peoples whait for that. And probably i buy my second for my daughter. "And dedicated Warhawk server too ;)"
$199 Core, $299 Premium, $399 Elite,trash Halo 3 edition 360(that is one ugly XBOX) and you should throw in one of the platinum hits like Dead Rising or something. This should be enough, not to mention overdue because I like others were dissappointed that we saw such a minute price drop after two honkin years! But you know who I feel sorry for the most in all of this???? Those PS3 early adopters. Not only did those guys buy the PS3 at such a hefty price, but they are watching as new ps3 owners will get Spidey on Bluray, 20 more gigs than the first lower tier ps3, and not to mention the first buyers from launch and up to this point will also have to buy dual shock 3 whenever Sony starts to include them with system purchase (whenever that may be............and also, much better games are starting to come out and these ps3 owners will start off the bat with good games to play. I guess the smart ps3 gamers are actually about to be rewarded for their patience, knowing that such ridiculous launch prices wouldnt last long. You guys enjoy your games..........and congratulations...........you saved soo much money by not being stupid..........like some people.
but you know who i really feel bad about? the idiots who paid 400$ for a peice of junk that RRoD'd on em. like seriously..wtf does that have to do with ANYTHING? i wouldve agreed with you until you brought in that fanboy comment about feeling bad about early adaptors well guess what.. THATS WHO THEY ARE. JUST LIKE MOST PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT XBOX360 ON THE FIRST DAY. Do they get a 65nm falcon? NO? then i fell sorry for them, they just going to keep getting more RRoD's! (like that even makes sense)
This technology for godsake it drops in price "FACT". Buy the latest PC and you will lose $500 in 6 mths. Anybody who bought a HD tv 12 mths ago will be out of pocket and buy one now and the next year it will be 25% cheaper. Nothing to do with a console war just technology.
Can we sing the Halo theme song together???? Come on.............Ha, lah, ahh, la , ahhhhh (poor attempt at sounding like a monk) BTW, me and my brother both have launch 360's with no red rings. Don't believe everything ya hear.......ya heard?!
When Microsoft came out with the Elite SKU's all the Sony fans thought it was a bad idea. I believe the common theme from them was, 'it would confuse consumers.' Now, TWO NEW SONY SKU's LATER IN LESS THAN 2 MONTHS and this is genius? Look, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that Sony is well aware if they want to make in dent in North America, it would help to have a system that's less than 500 and 600 dollars before Black Friday. Sony's issue is games. The 360 sells more gaming software where as the PS3 sells more blue ray movies. My how soon we forget, the wait till arguments of LAIR, WAR HAWK, and HEAVENLY SWORD. Now it's wait till UNCHARTED, MGS4, and RATCHET AND CLANK. People are not buying the PS3 games in mass like the 360 and I'm not talking about HALO 3 either (I'm not a HALO fan.) I'm talking about mass platform games like MLB, Madden, and Tiger Woods golf. These are the real indicators as most people in North America love their sports titles. I know the 360 has a larger lead but take the sales from NPD and divide that number by the number of games sold for each console (times 100 and I think you'll get an idea of what I speak of. Games are what make up the difference from upfront console losses NOT MOVIES and you will see more of this in the coming months. I can't wait for NPD numbers for September to come out. Take the number of the highest PS3 console game then divide it by the total number of PS3 consoles sold up to that period times 100(not month.) Then do the same with the 360. I guaranty you that the 360 percentage is higher. You have to sell games and at this time (compared to the PS3's lifecycle) the 360 is somewhere around 6 games per console. Sony's not going to give you those numbers as they are terribly low maybe somewhere around 2 (or lower) per console sold. I still believe people were (are) primarily buying PS3's for cheap blu-ray players (in North America.) Show me where I'm wrong. Side note: I know WAR HAWK is a little harder to gauge as you can also purchase it on the Playstation Network. But believe me, if sales were that impressive, Sony would have made a HUGE deal of it by now. I haven't seen anything, have any of you?
heavenly sword lair and warhawk are great games despite what reviews might say. If sales are down on those titles, its from the bad reviews in which case i would check rental stats out and they are probably pretty popular. And noone debates the attach rate for sony and ms. Its no lie that people own more ms games than sony games, but it has been out 14 months longer and your comparison for madden mlb and tiger is easy explained. EA dropped the ball on ps3 games this year and most people bought the ps2 versions. So add ps3 and ps2 sales together for your sports games. Also maybe, just maybe the demographics for ps3 owners is broader than 360 owners. It seems that 360 owners tend to like the same games and hate the same games, where as ps2 and ps3 owners have a huge varied taste in games. Im a good example. Im from texas (a huge football state) and i could care less about madden mlb or tiger. Ive never bought any of those franchises when i owned a sega ps1 ps2 or ps3. edit: and two more things about the attach rate. sony knows it has a low attach rate in its strategy of selling bundles in europe to boost the attach rate. And I dont think attach rate is that big a deal anymore. I sell back my games to gamestop when im done with them. Unless they are classics that i honestly know ill play again. But whats the point of owning nba 07 when nba 08 is coming out. Or why keep rainbow 6 vegas when warhawk gets all my love now. Plus theres so many games just around the corner. And if i can pick it up in the used section and save some money i will. i know used games dont count twice on sales numbers.
The reviews for LAIR were bad I'll give you that, but I saw some pretty positive reviews for Heavenly Sword (I'm interested in that one myself.) Still, PEOPLE HAVE TO BUY THE GAMES. If they don't; EA, Capcom, Namco, Konami, and Ubisoft and the rest will cut their support (make crappy ports.) and exclusivity jumps out the window. Also, you mention that PS3 and PS2 games combine to sell more units than 360 on the sporting titles. I'm sorry to inform you but that is INCORRECT. Again, look at NPD (or VGChartz.com) and you will see that 360 sales of multiport sporting games exceed PS3 and PS2 combined. How do you think a producer of these games feels to have to spend extra money (developing on two consoles) on a demographic that in the current cycle will not buy their product in mass quantities like on a single console that consistently out performs two in sales of GAMES where it counts. These people are not in the business to be friends, they're trying to make money. The more units sold = more money. It's that simple. This new generation is all about graphics and physics and you can't spend two plus years and 10-15 million developing and promoting a title and sell 175,000-350,000 units world wide on a consistent basis. That company will be out of business in two years. One last point. Used games don't count ONCE in sales numbers. If you don't by the original product, producers will not make any MONEY. You can buy all the used games you like on a console but you will put that console out of business. So instead of two sales they get one. The console maker creates revenue off sales of GAMES and so does the developer. No sales = NO MONEY. By the Way, I'm getting NBA2K8 TODAY :)