BioWare's Greg Zeschuk talks Mass Effect, PS3 and X360 differences

In Eurogamer's latest interview BioWare president Greg Zeschuk talks more about Mass Effect's cinematic structure and combat system, explains why he believes it's a "true next-gen" title, and reveals his thoughts on the differences between PS3 and Xbox 360.

Eurogamer: About this rumoured PC version of Mass Effect...

Greg Zeschuk: We're not discussing anything about that at this point in time.

[TheMART]

This guy is making very wise comments there:

"Eurogamer: What about the argument that PlayStation 3 is technically the most powerful console? As you're trying to push these boundaries, do you wish you had that extra power to play with?

Greg Zeschuk: With power comes challenge. A lot of improvement in games doesn't come so much from raw power as it does from the tools at your disposal - so creating tools and technologies to make the act of creating better, which we focus on a lot. And secondly, pushing the performance; hitting the limit, then pushing and hitting it, then pushing more...

At the end of this cycle, I don't think there's going to be a big difference. If everyone's waiting for this huge difference, it's just not going to happen. By the end of this generation both PS3 and 360 will look awesome. Maybe 1 per cent of the population might be able to tell the difference between the two."

And that's the end to Sony's marketingblabla about their so lied 'overpowerfull' console. The 360 and the PS3 are about equal in power. It's all up to the devs to push the game on each platform as far as they can.

For the moment that results in the best multiplatform versions on the 360, in the future, the PS3 has to be pushed to reach the same level.

[nanometric]

Yes, ofcourse, Greg Zeschuk is the voice of god, everything he sais is an axiom... don't forget he is developing for M$/360 How about all those other devs that say PS3 is more powerfull?

P.S. Nothing against Greg Zeschuk, but marts gettin silly again

[S1D3 EFFEC7]

What developers? John Carmack? The rocket scientist who has said time and time again that architecture is more important than raw power?

I also remember when the Xbox first came out back in 2001 and blew the PS2 out of the water (graphically) from day one, and yet the PS3 has been out for almost a year and it has yet to prove itself to be the super computer Sony's marketing team told everyone it was. I admit, the PS3 is a powerful machine, but its not the beast Sony makes it out to be, and neither is the 360. Cell is just an over hyped processor that has nothing on Quads, nothing more.

Bottom line: Lets talk about games and lets forget all the specs wars, and leave that to the developers, since its them that have to work around each systems limitations, and believe me when I say they both have their shortcomings.

[Thugbot187]

This fanboy fights over which console is more powerful or has the most potential is getting very old very quick. Everyday you see a comment saying the PS3 is more powerful and from the other side you see the opposite saying the 360 is. Honestly who cares, it’s about the games that come out. Without games the console is worthless; I wish for once we can get along and enjoy that we both are getting a game that will be killer. For the PS3 side of the game the Dev’s took pride in making it so you can be happy for that and thankful that it’s not lazy port. Also please stop discrediting this developer for his profession opinion that comes from his experience of working on both systems. He didn’t put down any system which is common from many IPO’s these days. He did however say on each system they ran into problems and they sat and worked it out and ended up pushing each system to a new level and they didn’t stop there they did it again and again. That’s something all of us can be proud of developers wanting to bring us the best they can and not just make a buck off of us…

[BIadestarX]

And this is the reason why I hate Sony fanboys with passion... they don't want to hear the view from an non-bias developer that have experience in both platforms... they want to constantly be told by single minded developers that work only on the PS3 platform how the PS3 is the most powerful console. They don't want to hear "similar or equal in power" they want to hear, "the cell is so powerful.. bla bla bla".

Look at idontcare for example... typical lemming that does and say what he is told to say.. he even went as far as mentioning a freaken 5/10 rated game.. Lair.. infected with frame rate issues as something that can't be done on the xbox 360... wow thanks god it can't be done on the xbox 360!

I kind of understand why Sony fanboys will never settle for the PS3 and the xbox 360 to be both able to host Next Gen games... the key is Price, Game library and Online service... The xbox 360 due to is early release, ease of dev tools that makes game development very familiar to PC developers and the original xbox... have more games, Xbox live is better than PSN.. and to make matters worst... xbox 360 cost less... so if NOT better than the xbox 360.. then how can they justify their purchase?

[nasim]

not even a game like RR7 is supported by X360

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/ps3/...

Not one to blow his own trumpet, Teramoto also expressed his pleasure to offer RR7 in 1080p, at 60fps and in 5.1, something he claims is only possible on the PS3.

a DVD is enough?????????????

This is why LO takes up 4 DVDS and BLUE DRAGON took up 3 DVDS

[S1D3 EFFEC7]

Lets get exited about the games and lets forget about 20XAA, triple shader, super duper, 5 billion polys, 20 cores CPUs. Lets just play and enjoy the games themselves.

I have a 360 and a Wii, and I hope MGS4 comes to 360. If it does not come out on MS's system, will I bash it till theres no tomorrow? Hell no. If its a good game id be happy for all PS3 fans. Enjoy the game and maybe some day I will get somebody to lend me a PS3 so I can experience it. If the game is awesome I don't care on which console it comes out, I want to enjoy it.

Fanboys, please stop the flame wars and enjoy your games. I'm happy to be a gamer right now, and you should be too.

[hazeblaze]

And this is why ppl hate Microsoft fanboys... Because a developer that only makes games for ONE system is NOT unbiased. The fact that multiparty devs such as Epic comment on the PS3 being more powerful & hardly having its power tapped so far is more credible as they've ACTUALLY worked on both systems.

Also, he did not state that the systems were EQUAL in power... he said there was more to making games than tapping extra power & he did not THINK that most ppl would notice the difference made by that extra power, period.

Bioware is one of my favorite devs on both pc & xbox but his response is obvious PR positioning. Especially since the differences are already becoming obvious @ the end of the PS3's first year... by the end of the cycle 99% of the population will tell the difference. The games speak for themselves. If you comapre the animation, character model designs, and environments of a game like Mass Effect to Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, or UT3 the difference is blatantly obvious. However, just because PS3 games will boast better gfx; games like Mass Effect will ALWAYS be fun to play. That's all that you all should care about anyway.

[unlimited]

Maybe 1 per cent of the population might be able to tell the difference between the two."

i thought there wasn't no difference at all?? there is plenty of games coming out the ps3 that is blowing out the 360..Most mulitplatform games is scoring the same..exclusive is what goin to set the ps3 and 360 apart and sony got that in the bag..

[poet215]

Why don't the so called "gamers", get back to playing games? I'm never gonna actually understand the so called "console war". In my late teens, I had both Snes & Genesis. I never particularly cared for sega's machine, except for a handful of classic titles. I did however have a Genesis just for the sports games. EA's & Sega's sports games where just that much better on Genesis. I did 85% of my rpg, action & adventure gaming on Snes. My point being, even though I clearly preffered Snes, I never bashed Genesis or wanted to see it fail. I kept my attention focused on Snes. If I discovered that I dug a certain Genesis game, I played it & that was that. To this day, Genesis probably has tons of good games, that I never heard of back then. I used that console & took whatever enjoyment I could take from it & left it at that. All this talk of wishing to see Sony blow up & cease to be a console maker is crazy. I bought PS3 & 360 on their respective launch dates. I sold the 360 the same day, because it kept freezing up & I didn't want to deal with the repair BS. It may upset many, but I currently enjoy my PS3 & Xbox 1. I will more than likely get a 360 again, but yes I'm very bias in Sony's favor. But that doesn't mean I hate 360. Perhaps folks that saw the Nintendo vs. Sega war firsthand will understand where I'm coming from with this.

[ip-student]

On average there isn't much difference between the PS3 and XBOX 360. So it is all about the games.

And looking at what is coming - there is no way anyone could play them all. I did a quick check - there are about 150 cross-platform games coming in the next two years (per IGN). Sony has about 65 exclusives and MS has about 93 exclusives (the list is larger but puzzle games do not count).

The exclusive titles - assuming they stay exclusive - look great for both platforms. And the cross-platform games also look great. So this whole pissing match is irrelevant - neither platform is going away and the prices are going to drop as both MS and Sony push each other. For example - if Sony comes out with a $399 PS3 then you can bet MS will drop the price of the XBOX 360 to $300.

I just wish I didn't have to work so much - I don't have time to play all the great games coming out. I think regardless of the platform you choose you have a lot to look forward to and more good games than you can possibly play.

Game on.

[Synex]

I honestly don't know which is more powerful, but I do know what games I enjoy. The 360 simply doesn't have the franchises I look forward to. And to the guy who talked about the xbox being more powerful than the PS2 and it lost, which we know your telling us you think the PS3 will lose because it's more powerful, but the reason the xbox didn't win because it didn't have an proven franchises and the Playstation family did and still does today.

[green_ghost5]

That is very true, the power between these two consoles are about the same.....and Mass Effect is a huge game, and they fit it all on one DVD.

[AngryTypingGuy]

Everyone keeps saying "keep waiting, the PS3 will blow the 360 away", or "in time, the PS3 will pull away from the 360". My question is, how long will we have to wait? Whenever I look at multiplatform games that are coming out in 2008 or 2009, it seems to me there's no difference. I also have yet to see any previews for PS3 exclusives that are coming out in the next couple of years that blow away anything the 360 can do.

What I do see are a bunch of kick ass exclusives coming out on the 360. What I do see are multiplatform games that look and run better on the 360.

If you want to see the PS3 totally outclass the 360, you're going to have to "PLAY B3YOND" the year 2010. Of course, I'm guessing that the day will never come, and a bunch of people are going to realize they could've been playing the 360 all along.

[mikeaka]

''Sony lied.the ps3 sucks...........xbox is better now and theres no difference at all.''Thats what you sound like TheMART,just think of it this way, an xbox developer berating the ps3 and sony praising it doesnt mean sony lied,its called marketing

[GaMr-]

Why even respond to guy with that avatar and who basically para phrased an entire interview around the few statements that tickled him pink. While in the end that statement and 1 dollar couldnt get you on the bus.

(Statement based on the bus costing ($1.25) : )

[felidae]

there are already games out that can't be done on the 360.

- Motorstorm

- Heavenly Sword

- Lair

if you look at games like Uncharted .. this on the 360? never!!

[AngryHippo]

.....don't bring Lair up as one of the games to prove a point about the ps3. The others are great especially HS, thats an awesome game.

[360Jamaican40GigFL]

OMG FU(K OFF

[P1MPDADDY]

Is whats wrong with this site. I dont believe for a second that any of the exclusive PS3 or 360 games out right now couldnt be ported to the other console. They are both powerful consoles. They are both limited by RAM. One has the better paper tech spec CPU (PS3), the other has the better paper tech spec GPU (360).

Stop calling out names of games already. You know why Motorstorm, Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, etc... arent on the 360??? Its called Sony has exclusive rights to those games. Just like Bioshock, Halo 3, Gears of War, Mass Effect etc... arent out on the PS3 because they are exclusive to the 360.

[Mark 1]

You're so right. Lair really can't be done on 360. If lair was available on the 360 Two Worlds would be a masterpiece in comparison. I really hope I will never again play such an abomination. Lair is by far the worst title available on any platform.

[bluebrad1974]

I would dare to say that every single game you mentioned could not only be done on the 360, but actually improved on the 360.

[unlimited]

I have yet to see a game on the 360 that accomplish what lair can do on the ps3..Halo 3 dont have the graphics is basically halo 2 in HD..Mulitplayer is the best..Mass effect great lookin game but heavenly sword can match it..how long have the 360 been out? 2 years while the ps3 almost one year..

[mesh1]

gears of war and halo 3 look better than anything on th eps3 atm and in motion the play 1000times better than anything on the ps3 the ps3 cnt handle a.i and textures to well it has a cell cpu which sux for running games show me a game that looks better or put screeens of go on the lets see haha ps3 is crap

[Mark 1]

"I have yet to see a game on the 360 that accomplish what lair can do on the ps3"

Two Worlds

[Jinxstar]

Mark1

Huh? Two World was the worst game I have played this gen hands down... What are you talking about?

[green_ghost5]

Thats a bunch of BS, sony PR crap, all those games you've just listed can in fact be done on the 360, Your really dumb if you seriously believe it can't be done.

[tatotiburon]

@jinxstar

...and LAIR is also one of the worst games ever

[Richdad]

You are in big mistake all the games you said can be done 360 if they wannna make it. The best looking game on PS3 in a year or so will be Killzone 2 and I am sorry to say that crysis surpasses it, Done head to head video comparison. The minimum requirement for crysis P4 2.8Ghz,6800GT, 1GB ram and all this is much much lower than the 360's hardware. So if you are saying that those games cant be run on 360 you are kidding, think again, I cant just get the idea how games like such which are no way anything we have not seen before cant be run on 360. Yeah but if a developer want he can even make Super Mario of NES run with frame rate trouble on Ps3 or 360.What BioWare's Greg Zeschuk is saying is 100% correct.

[AngryTypingGuy]

Why can't they be done on the 360? Are they too mediocre?

[Douchebaggery]

they actually talk about Mass Effect in the article which imo is gonna be game of the year

[Azures]

i doubt it. too many contenders to throw that at mass effect.

I know I'm gonna be assaulted by disagrees, but we've seen neutral 3rd parties comment before that the ps3 is indeed more powerful just not achieved yet by developers. As long as we're pulling 3rd party developer statements as "fact", unless their is some hypocrite who would take this guy's word over another devs.

This is all crap anyway, whenever someone sees a bioware developer they need to be put into a headlock and abused until they admit what they're making in Austin.

[hazeblaze]

Exactly, that's the point. Now xbots want to act as if this dev's word discredits the countless others that have actually worked on both systems.

Heck, if we're going to go on the word of console exclusive devs... Let's at least choose the one with the best looking game. In which case Kojima is absolutely correct... The PS3 is the most powerful system, the only one fully capable of acheiving his vision. The director of FF XIII said something similar last week.

This is nothing more than devs playing their part in the PR game. But if I judge based off of what I see, I'm inclined to believe that the PS3 really does have the edge when it comes to the extra power.

[Synex]

I don't know it seems to only appeal to a small audience kind of like Online RPGs. Sci-Fi MMOs don't have near the population as most of the fantasy based ones do. Don't get me wrong I'm a PS3 fan to the fullest, but this seems like a great game.

[green_ghost5]

Mass Effect, looks better than MGS4, Kojima is a c*ck hungry jap.

[unlimited]

How come all the 1st and 2nd gen games for 360 really isn't blowing out the PS3 games right now?? Lair, Motor Storm, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Resistance, Heavenly Sword all great looking games..I can name others thats coming out uncharted, ratchet and clank, gran tursimo prolouge, mgs4,Folklore(gorgeous game), final fantasy VIII Versus and etc..

What do the 360 have gears of war and mass effect?? im talkin about games that will just take peoples breath away..

[bung tickler]

gears was a first year 360 title and the ps3 has yet to out do it. go blow smoke up someone elses ass.

[bluebrad1974]

Ps3 has yet to produce a game that looks as good as Kameo, a launch 360 game.

[unlimited]

why do you choose to ignore all the game i listed..the fact remains the ps3 will have better lookin games.unreal tournment will blow away gears of war. ..the 360 been out for 2 years and i expected to be even more spectacular but i just dont see it..while the ps3 barely hit its first year and able bring out a lot of great looking games.

check out screen for ratchet and clank and uncharted and haze latest screen shots..the fact remain ps3 is poweful system..sony is really goin to push it

[artman]

developer support is important, but honesty is also important. let's get wii guys lol

[Meus Renaissance]

"Greg Zeschuk: With power comes challenge. A lot of improvement in games doesn't come so much from raw power as it does from the tools at your disposal - so creating tools and technologies to make the act of creating better, which we focus on a lot. And secondly, pushing the performance; hitting the limit, then pushing and hitting it, then pushing more..."

What he's saying is that, the PS3 may have more power, but that doesn't mean it will result in better or more advanced games because those come from the quality of developing tools they have. Which is a clear dig at Sony's poor 3rd party support or support tools up till now, and Microsoft famous for their intense support quality to other developers and publishers.

So in his opinion, it is that despite technical power - the main difference will be about the tools available for developers and then how quickly they master that. But what he doesnt go on to add, is the possibility that there will be great tools that take full advantage of the extra raw power in the PS3. If that happens, then there will be a difference but its all theoretical as we need to get to several stages first before that becomes a reality.

[mesh1]

MEUS mo 1 cares u PS3 cow ps3 is garbage and u come and write long words liek any 1 cares about u this site is run by ps3 owners .the ps3 is harder to develop for not becuase of sony missing dev tools cause the system architecture is garbage its like a a weight lifter white big arms but skinny legs u get it ? good meus stop posting ur a no body i just h8 when kids try to make them self important when there nobodys

[Meus Renaissance]

I'm commenting on the article from what I understood from it. If I have misunderstood, then you are free to try and give your own opinion to challenge mine.

It's called discussion.

However, if you disagree with an opinion or anyone else you dont just say to them "no one cares about what you say". Why? Because it makes no sense. Does anyone care about what another says? Most of the time no. Do I care about what you have to offer? Only if its interesting, but trying to get personal - no, I don't care when you do that.

You have two options now. Either put me on Ignore or kindly be quiet while the rest of us try to have a civilised discussion.

[Synex]

"MEUS mo 1 cares u PS3 cow ps3 is garbage and u come and write long words liek any 1 cares about u this site is run by ps3 owners .the ps3 is harder to develop for not becuase of sony missing dev tools cause the system architecture is garbage its like a a weight lifter white big arms but skinny legs u get it ? good meus stop posting ur a no body i just h8 when kids try to make them self important when there nobodys"

Look at the way you present yourself. It seems to me you're roughly 14 or 15 years old and you're refering to others as kids. And Meus has a good point; you should respect that. The cell is new technology (I'm not saying it's more powerful at this point) and when people start to figure out it's architecture they have the ability to create wonderful things. You should thankful a huge corporation is taking such a risk to further technology and humanity in the like. This is only good for gamers.

[akaFullMetal]

just wondering bloody diarrha, when ut3 comes out its not going to look better??? yes i know it is multi but its coming to the ps3 as well which will look better than gears, even epic has said that, so the ps3 will have a game that looks better than gears, and so will the 360

[mighty_douche]

go mug some grannies and get yourself a decent pc. obviously thats quite alot of skint grannies though, oh well, the government will look after them!

edit : ummm RTS??? do you mean FPS or are you just a noob whos never used a decent pc?

[InMyOpinion]

The best gaming machine for RTS maybe...

[wangdiddy82]

I still think heavenly sword has way better facial animation than this game.. Mass effect looks good but if you watch any of the videos the facial expressions look almost to dull or fake.. The gameplay looks boring "to me too".. Thats my opinion..

I think this guy is wrong when he says you wont be able to tell the difference between the ps3 and 360. I think you already can... I mean look what kinda games the ps3 is already pushing in its first year. Motorstorm, heavenly sword, and i heard liar was unblievable looking but got really crappy scores becasue of the control scheme..Havent played liar yet, not my kinda of game.. And rachet and clank and uncharted.. People keep saying these games can be ported over to the 360 so easily but i havent seen one game on the 360 that touches motorstorms intense graphics.. Dont say dirt becasue that game doesnt come close. I havent seen one game that comes close to heavenly sword. Maybe mass effect.. If you havent played this game please do yourself some justice and play it.. Rachet and clank which looks like a pixar movie, nothing on the 360 compares to this game on every level.. The ps3 will shine by the end of 2008 or in 2009..

[gnothe1]

I want you guys(the ones that have both systems) go a download the JERICHO demo from the PSN am XBL an do a graphics comparison!! this is one game where you can certainly see that the PS3 colors are washed out. an the detail level ain't as good s the 360 version. is it a sloppy PORT as you guys call it, we dont know!! but what I do know is that the 360 version has more color, sharper an more crisp detail. just look at the press start screen were it shows the flesh. the Ps3 version looks light red or a very dark shade of pink, an the 360 version looks deep red like I think it should look!!

also why do you guys say we cant compare multiplat games. I think those are the MAIN games to judge by. when looking at multiplat games last gen we all knew the xbox 1 an gamecube had better graphics than the PS2. but why when we look at multiplat games this gen we cant see that the PS3 is more powerful!! there either EVEN or SLIGHTLY better for the 360 unless the game was delayed 6 months to a year to make it better on the PS3, an then its only SLIGHTLY better then!!

you guys have said that developer havent figured out the hardware yet, the PS3 has only been out 1 year!! the systems has only been released to the public for 1 year but developers have had dev kits for years now!! EA an UBI both have had dev kits since late 2004. remember E3 2005 with the EA an fight night!! so theres no more excuses, the Ps3 is a great machine but its not gonna suddenly blow away the 360 like you guys are HOPING!!

[Xbox is the BEST]

with the delays we can't get the multiplatform games to look as good as the 360 versions.

[wangdiddy82]

dude multi plat games.. Most devs have had more time with the 360 and this is like there 2nd or 3rd game on the system, where as its there 1st game on the ps3.. this is 360 2nd gen games and ps3 is already handling.. Devs are porting 360's 2nd gen games to the ps3 in its first year.. You would think the ps3 games would look a lot worse becasue its only been out for 10 months.. I mean look how horrible most 360's games looked in its 1st year..

some multi plat games look a slight better on the 360 and some look a slight better on the ps3.. No one can really tell.. And this is a demo, who knows how old this demo is..

[razer]

Another great 360 article degraded into a PS3 vs 360 graphics debate. Wake me up when we can actually post an article that doesn't turn into a flamewar.

[tk]

First party exclusive titles shows the difference. Cross platform devs have to make it look as similar as possible - and make code as portable as possible. If you ever coded for different platforms - lets say - Linux and Windows you would get the idea. And then chuck in Windows for Intel and Linux for PowerPC... then you will really get the idea. Then try and code for different GPU's - and quickly the strength of the individual platforms give way to portable code.

For cross platform titles - the machines will be very very similar from halfway to the end. But exclusive titles on an engine coded from the metal for a specific platform will be extremely difficult to port.

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MART = Microsoft Action Response Team...
Who else would man the boards 24/7 and defend any MS related content, attack every Sony related content and be able to play the games?
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[Chris_GTR1]

its NOT about the graphics! i could care less if the ps3 has better graphics on first party games. its about the console as a whole. ps3s funtionality and integration with games just blows. its a single player only console.

[Jinxstar]

Here's my rant. If you disagree button is down and right. Bubbles are up and right. Add or Subtract. But either way please let me know why you think I am wrong.

So this game is a "SciFi Shooter RPG" That concentrates heavily on speech mechanics and social interaction with NPC's... Soooo how many people do you think will be into this game? I dont think it will hit as big a market as say... Bioshock for shooters with story. Final fantasy for RPG. or Halo for SciFi... I think this will hit a very small market and doesn't look all that interesting...

Story: Aliens want to kill humans(More so military dudes) for some silly reason.... Guh.... Quake, Aliens vs Predator, Halo, RFOM(not really alien but no real knowledge of what, Just crazy russian crap possibly alien in origin), Half-life, Area51, UT3... Thats just this gen. I prolly missed some too in there somewhere.... Could still be good but doesn't intrigue me.

Gameplay: It looks unique. I will give it that but... Doesn't look all that great to me... New and/or unique doesn't mean great. Look at the duck-billed platipus (Spelling?). Thats one ugly abomination from whatever deity you worship...

Graphics: This is a hard point for me to comment on. Through the trailers there were part where I though ZOMG HAWT. Then parts where I thought WTF was that?... I can't say more really this is my impression. It looks good but by no means mind blowing like the new Star wars looks.

So really if they hit a big market then great but I really can't see too many average gamers(Not Hardcore like most of us N4G peeps) really diggin this game. If it is successful good stuff. Seriously I will be happy. But just based on what we have seen and heard so far... I don't expect too much really...

[Jones Miller]

You should have played Knights of the Old Republic I and II. If you were to compare Mass Effect to any games it would be those two games also made by Bioware. I can understand why a lot of people can´t comprehend why this possibly has written GOTY all over it because it plays like nothing they have played before. It´s actually difficult to explain why this game is gonna PWN but just take my word for it...it will! In fact I will bet my balls on it!

[power of Green]

Not going to happen good 360 news is offensive some how.

[mesh1]

jinxstar ive seen ur other post ps3 fanboy masss effects won awards and is an rpg u nerd not a hack and slash like the new star wars its clocks at 70hrs of game play so shush remember oblivion kotor1 yes this game is loved buy game mags won so much awards dont worry the game media will play this game and know its goty and it will be the biggest successes of bioware the grpics of the planets are jawbraken beautiful go read reviews man this game will own

[Jinxstar]

I can't really read what you wrote but... All I wrote was opinion. It's not up to reviewers its up to the kid that walks into the game store and hears "SciFi RPG with Shooter controls and other nifty speech things" That will most likely go "Meh... pass" Instead he will buy the orange box or COD4... On whatever system.

I am a PS3 fan overall cause I like the games on it more. I think they are all hella fun and dont have to all be AAA to be fun to me... Thats all.

Edit: I mentioned Star Wars cause its a story ,SciFi in essence, that people can relate to and I feel will sell much better...

I dont wish doom on any system I own them all. I play them all and enjoy them all a lot. I just prefer a few things on the PS3 more is all... I feel it offers more to my personal gamer needs...

[sajj316]

Actually, no it isn't. Why would an independant developer take sides? Just because he is taking a neutral stance does not mean that there is a stalemate in performance between the 360 and the PS3. Only blogs and forums have stated that the 360 is more powerful but even those arguments are baseless. In time, we will see who the winner is once developers tap into the system's resources.

If I were comparing potential of a system, I would be comparing first party versus first party and exclusive titles.

[Xbox is the BEST]

thats liks saying Ryan Leaf has potential, PS3 aint showing it.

[Salvadore]

PS3 and 360 are about as equal, but the 360 has more limitations.

[CrazzyMan]

but just show me games on x360, that graphically in these genres are more advanced, then these ps3 games:

Ratchet.
GT5.
Uncharted.
FFXIII.
Getaway3.

[green_ghost5]

Umm.....Mass Effect, Bioshock, Gears.

[mesh1]

ps3 games on game play meaning while the game is in motion are terrible and kameo elements of power looks bettter than uncharted put up screens and lets compare cause i have dont even compare uncharted /ratchet to real game with good graphics as they are jokes

[S1D3 EFFEC7]

I was just comparing them in the visuals department(Xbox and PS2 with 360 and PS3). I have no clue who will win this generation, but I think the market is big enough for all 3 mayor companies. Dont put words in other people's mouths.

[wangdiddy82]

the 360 has a couple good shooters

the ps3 has a couple good shooters, plus more..

[S1D3 EFFEC7]

Alan Wake
Mass Effect
Too Human
Fable 2
Splinter Cell Conviction
Lost Odyssey
Halo Wars

Plus more, and all the awesome multi platforms like Resident Evil 5 and GTA4. Both consoles (PS3 and 360) have their fair share of AAA caliber exclusives. Its all a matter of which you like more.

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@idontcare - your right, tho, Lair CAN'T be done on the 360.. why? Cause it's build around the six-axis. BUT, graphics wise and w/e else, CAN be done on the 360.
@unlimited - Lair..Lair..Liar.. it sucks, stop bringing it up, please.
Halo 3 is halo 2 in HD? Think for yourself, not what reviewers said. Are you fÜcking kidding? HS can match Mass Effect? NO. I like Heavenly Sword... but it's no Mass Effect. Mass Effect looks much much prettier and if your talking bout gameplay, well, then your just a dumbass, cause their two totally different game types.