It didn't take long, but the first reports of the new 65nm CPU / GPU (code named Falcon) overheating has just surfaced. Seen on the picture is a limited edition Xbox 360 Halo 3 edition. This system incorporates the rumored 65nm chipset.
if I remember correct not every Halo 3 360 is 65nm, only the ones with different heatsink(lot 734 I think, without heatpipe)
some of the guys in the forum are making the same observation
No, from what I understand all of the Halo 3 limited Edition consoles have the 65nm chipset. And some of the Elite / Pro systems have them, you might be confusing the two.
Also the poster confirms that it is a 360 with the Falcon chipset.
of course I am not sure, but according to xbox forums, I remember some people being glad at first they got the Halo 3 console only to come back and say they have the heatpipe and a different lot #
Why would some halo systems have them and not others? The only logical explanation would be if they were manufactured in different locations.
how many people in here bought the x360 more than once? so totally how much money u spent on just the console?
I bought 1 system on launch day, and still works 2day
Damn you Microsoft! I want to feel confident in knowing I can by your product and not have problems later. I want to play the games I just don't want to have to deal with the headache that comes with them. I guess you can't always get what you want.
lmao microsoft seriously cant make a hardware without that work smoothly
I can't stop LOLing, this is the funniest sh!t I've read all week!!! Holy sh1t, you xbots thought the 65nm processors were gonna be the glorious end all of the RROD problems!! LOL, gullible lemmings. M$ is giving it to you right up the pooper, and your all drinking the RROD koo-aid.
Does that mean we have to wait for 45nm CPUs to come out?
No it means MS doesnt give a flying crap about making a system that works.
That I primarily do my gaming on my PS3, and have the 360 and Wii for their (good) exclusives only...
Microsoft is taking a beating in the hardware department... This is their first custom hardware architecture, and it is plagued with issues.
Microsoft is going to have to do their homework on their next XBox and make sure things like this don't happen again...
The GPU is what is overheating not the CPU, also there is no official confirmation that these even have the new 65nm CPU!! You have to take off the heatsink and try and look at the CPU to know for sure.
well according xbox forums the ones without heatpipe consume significantly less electricity that seems to confirm 65nm CPU
Jeeez, will MS ever get this s**t sorted. Seriously, I mean come on!
Im going to wait at least another 6 months before thinking about a purchase.
wow this is weak, a picture is not proof, and until we can actually prove that every Halo Console has the chipset A FREAKING PICTURE MEANS NOTHING
this picture is worth a lot more to me than your reasoning ability.
This is EXACTLY why MS is able to get away with pumpimg out BS hardware. It never ceases to amaze me how much and how often people who own 360's make RROD some kind if made up conspiracy theory.
If your a 360 fan be a 360 fan. Take the good with the bad but at the same time stop acting like your fellow 360ers arent going through it with their consoles bricking. Its akmost a slap in the face to them because while your over here talking about whats made up, some dudes pissed bcuz his system has failed.
My cousin, who's also my room mate is on his 3rd 360 and his brother is on his 3rd. In all fairness, this dudes core bricked, and it was repaired/or refurb but he also got the elite in addition to having the core.
Seriously though, people are acting brain washed over this RROD and it makes it easier for MS to give their fanbase the loooooooooooooooong shaft because instead of contesting this sh!t, you guys are saying its ok is my systems bricks and even worse you guys wont even acknowledge or believe thats your fellow a-alikes 360's are bricking.
My cousin is a Xbox360 Fanatic but this dude, as well as my other cousin are quick to admit that MS hardware is waaaay to faulty.
If you guys are man enough to brag about how Halo3 owns(It Does) and how many great games there are for 360(there are), be man enough to face the cons. RROD does exist so stop sh!tting on your fellow 360'by failing to acknowledge what they very well go through.
Of course not every 360 has bricked, no one said 100% of all 360's brick but just because it didnt happen to you that doesnt mean it hasnt happen to the next man. It has and i have seen numerous cases with own eyes and have nothing to gain from lying or makin up things as I like ALL 3 console. Peace
paying off 2 many developers
just spent the money
on the hardware
Microsoft is not a joke, yes they should have done more homework when designing this system, but hey they are still making money aren't they.
What type of computer are you using anyway? and what is your OS?
MS's gaming division hasnt turned a profit yet....... if anything they have been losing money with the whole red ring of death fiasco.
yo he is lying this pic was taken by someone that post on GT forums and doesnt work at bestbuy. he is making the story up
Edit:he just updated it and took the story about about where he got it from.
i know this site can be biased at times but this guy is flat out lying
People make errors, I did some more research and corrected my post. Thanks for the help in informing me of the mistakes. They were corrected, and everything should be good now.
make errors you made up an entire story.wow i cant believe this site. you lied and when i said that you lie you took it out.
Why do you have a hard on? I don't need to waste my time reporting fake stories, and I fixed the mistakes I made. Is there anything else wrong with the story? If not, why are you still craming about it?
@Blazin are you anal? Did you not read the part about me making a mistake?
becuase you lied you made up the story to try and get it approved. and when i called you out on it you took it out.
Elites dont have 65nm, and only a small number of halo 360s have them.
So nice try with the flamebait but i'm afraid you've failed.
even 65nm's get RRoD -BELIEVE
thank god for the 3 year warranty
the box is officially DONE.
Your name suits you very well, I guess you must have missed the part where they just said the story is fake. That's ok because you are sofakingreetodded. Right?
$399.99 PS3 will solve all problems.
"THERE IS LIFE AFTER HALO 3"
BELIEVE X-MAS *07*
Exactly. COme publisher dont lie! that story is true! thee is a freaking image!
jeez the length people go too discredit consoles.....you would also see the red tinge around the area...but no light even emits off the ring...another red flag is the person that posted that is missing now from the site. its only obvious now that the person joined too spead false info...way too go ng4g too fall for another fake posting.
you people who disagree care too explain why you disagree or will you just be the mindless sheep who always disagrees with people anonymously
http://farm1.static.flickr.... here is a pic i found of a rrod. is there a difference? look at the bottom of the pic i posted...theres a red afterglow. theres no afterglow on the other pic...
Notice that the glow is reflecting off of the back material surrounding the power button.
If someone faked that photo, they need a job in visual effects. There is no distorted pixels or anything. Take the image into photoshop, and grade the hell out of the image. When you have a chopped image, there is usually different odd compression/pixels around the element that was just chopped in and not blended correctly. EVEN then, if you didn't grade the original red ring image, to match the 360 halo edition image, you could still see an obvious change in value.
I work in Visual FX as a compositor. Image is real, or a very good chop done by someone with too much time on their hands.. (which would be most ps3 owners har har)
To be fair I think we must wait a while until they open up the frame and investigate the hardware to see if those new chips are present and also to have a few more broken 65nm consoles to properly confirm the problem still exists.
I'm sure many people were considering buying a 360 next year thinking the new chips would guarantee reliability. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
well.. pray that it isn't true!
RRoD appears not only if case 360 died! IT appears sometime and you need just to reboot the console.
I was looking forward to buying a 360 this christmas.
>_<! Halo 3, Gears (2?), and PGR4 will have to wait even longer now.
No you won't, don't be so quick to rule it out, this story is most likely fake. You may be able to enjoy your 360 very soon.
RROD doesnt mean that the system is dead, just reboot and works in most cases.
for example a power supply problem when i plug/unglug power wire when console turned on. that is very easy to make thouse screenshoots.
red rings nooo just rebooted and everything was fine and it's a uk launch console thats used everyday no probs what so ever
I'm no xbox savvy, but would that be 4 rings?
what you guys are talking about is 4 rings. 3 rings = dead xbox
This doesn't prove anything, where is the article?
i don't know or care if it has the new chip or whatever, the fact is that a x360 manufactured in august of this year according to the picture got the RRoD which is unacceptable in my book as a x360 owner who had one system died already.
....really. I've been waiting long and hard for this...hopefully it's either BS or a fluke.
all devices will have hardware failures, why is anyone surprised that one of them broke down. The 'falcon' 360 would only drastically reduce failure rates, not eliminate them 100%.
The fact that it broke down so quickly obviously means that it was just a faulty console from manufacturing more than anything, not a systemic issue with the console
but I hope the mobo was reworked to better accomodate the components. From what I understand, it's a tight fit in some places, and in others things shouldn't be where they are.
It's been by design, and I thought the Falcon was more than just a smaller fabrication process...let's hope I'm right.
Ok, lets say that this is true, so some of the new build 360's have the hardware failure problem. Its upsetting i know (as i have had it before) but you cant say MS has turned it's back on it's gamers can you? They know RRoD is a problem, and im sure they are trying to fix it. But to aid the people who suffer from it, they have given us all a 3 year warranty to cover it. Thats a long, long time. they are trying to respond to this problem as well as they can. And Sony fans, leave flaming me to one side. When my friend had problems with his PS2, Sony did NOTHING to help. No replacement, No repair, Nothing. He had to buy a new console! All 360 owners are still covered for atleast another year! So be angry at MS for giving us a console with a large breakdown rate, but dont deny that they have tried to make it better for us.
lol they are selling defective products to people like you and me and you say give them a break? if im spending £250 on something i WANT IT TO WORK! dont you?
M$ stated that this would cure the RROD which it obviously hasnt and yet people still stand beside them with their "yeah buts...."
M$ are taking people for fools and well if you cant see that then more fool you.
edit: lol RBlaze you idiot, if it was any other product consumers would be up in arms but for some reason, consoles have now become a law of their own because people are loyal to them, for some reason. i dont care if they extend warrenty or whatever, the PROBLEM SHOULDNT BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!! and product of that value and from a company as large as M$ should be tested over and over and then re-tested. M$ claimed that this would cure the issue and people have even waited for this model purely because of the PR crap that M$ kick out and now we find out it was just more lies and you still except it. its fine if your happy with this, i personally wouldnt be, i want what a pay for, and i want it to work!
edit 2: mate the extended the warrenty because it was either that or do a complete re-call which would of made M$ loo stupid, well more stupid than they currently are. i love you guys, i say something about M$ and you seem to take it as a direct insult at you, its sooo funny, you'd think that you are a part sharer in M$ or something. regardless of what product it is or wether i have a competitors model or not, its a complete joke to release a product of this quality and have faults with around 30% of them, THEN tell people a new model is coming which wont have the same issues and waht happens a week after release and its RROD, but yet you still try and defened them to the death. i as a consumer want the produce to do what the produce claims, i think its a disgrace that after all these problems M$ didnt even bother to test the new FALCON chip sets properly.
remember, my insults are aimed at M$, not you, or your mum or your sister, get over it and try looking at the bigger picture rather than defending something purely because you own one, i bought a Sega Saturn but i can still admit its problems. no one will care about the 360 in 5 years including you so try and remember that its just a piece of hardware and not you GIRLFRIEND!!
All i have said is that they have tried to support the people with defective consoles and can you deny that? Why else do you think they raised the warranty to 3 years?
I also said that people should be angry at MS for giving them a console that breaks down, because it shouldn't. But they replace all consoles that do, so they are trying to help.
So before you start throwning round insults, learn to read and understand what people say. Really man, your ginin us UK's a bad name x
EDIT: Mighty_douche, Do you not understand what i wrote? I said you should be unhappy if your console doesn't work. But MS has added a warranty to try to help people with problems. I'll dumb it down to a level that you might understand, give you a real world example ok? Lets say you go to a private doctor to sew up your crack from too much PS3 love. Then you get back home, and you just can't resist another minute of fun, and that little hole bursts again. Would you say the doctor would be more helpful if he said he's fix it again, free of charge, or if he simply told you to buy a new one? You see where im coming from now?
Don't bother tryig to be clever with your responses susan, just stick to your PS3 news. You aren't really bothered about the Xbox fans, you just wanna give us all a bad morning
EDIT 2 : Last time i checked, 'RBlaze you idiot' and 'fool you' are both insults directly at me, hence the reply. Again i must say please read what i wrote - i said the 360 has problems and you should be angry at MS. I also said that the extended warranty was to help people - which it is. Obviously it would be better if problems didn't occur, but since the origional 360 batches, RROD have decreased, and some new consoles are bound to get RRODs. My origional argument still stands that MS is replacing faulty xboxs.
Ever since the 360 launch there has been issues. They denied any problems since the launch, then a few month later they extended the warranty from 90 days to 1 year (still denying the 360 has problems). Then earlier this year they finally admitted the 360 has a design flaw and claim those problems have been addressed and extended the warranty AGAIN to 3 years (only after some really bad press about the RRoD).
I got my 360 December '05 and it still works... barely. I get numerous graphical errors (scrambled up, pixelated, funky colors, the works) and sometimes the video just goes completely black. Microsoft won't fix it because the 3 year warranty is 'only for the RRoD', I have to pay for everything else.
The 360 has great games, but the Xbox 360 console is a piece of crap. The last game I got was Forza 2, but I can't even play it most of the time due to the errors. I play my PS3 more often now, it'll be my primary system for now on.
I see no reason to give them a 'break'. They lied until they couldn't lie any more.
@ 24.1 You really, really need to learn how to spell. We do not know for sure if this is a "falcon" or not. STFU and go back to kindergarten, and tell them you need to start over.
Spot on. MS has tuned into a greedy corporation (as well as Sony, so don't start the sonyfanboy rant on me). Windows OS are starting to fall apart, IE is a joke. And instead of working to perfect their original products, they invest into new areas just to try to monopolize as much as they can. Oh no, Apple has Ipod, answer Zunes!, Sony and NIntendo have gaming consoles? Quick, the xbox!
Zunes is pretty much dead, although it was never really alive. Xbox will go down in history as the console that simply turned its back on its consumers, and the 360 will always be remembered for Halo 3 and the wost failure rate of any gaming console to date.
BUt the worst is that you people still blindly follow MS. 360 is 2 years old, yet it still breaks down, just like a launch. You think an extended warrenty was a nice gesture haha, you tools. It might of cost them 1B$, but it would of been awhole lot higher if they did the right thing, either a complete recall, or replacement.
You guys love you 360 so much, yet you probably are afraid to turn it on everytime you want to game. And somehow thats ok?
I'm a sonyfan (I own ps2 and ps3, so I guess that makes me a fan), but if the ps3 has such a large failure rate, I would stick it to Sony. Brand loyalty doesn't get you anywhere. Realise that MS will try to squeeze as much cash as they can out of you, and when you just take their sh*t, MS laughs all the way to the bank.
thank you mate, some one with the foresight to look at something regardless of what they own. im throwing ya a bubble!!
#1 Flamesuit (check)
#2 Food supply (check)
#3 Anti-fanboy bunker (check)
#4 Door shut timer set to a month (check)
#5 Toilet (not checked)
LOL, sorry to burst your bubble, but that thing ain't Falcon.
Where is the proof that its overheating? The rrod death as its called as many people have pointed out can come from many diffrent errors infact I can make one apear right now by having the power cord not connect propaly(my cat pulled at it one time thats how I know that one lol) also if you do not have it connected to your tv propaly it alos apears. I have a feeling that someone got bored oneday and posted these pics just for kicks cause he/she would know that type of reaction he would get from sites like this. Of subject does anyone know when the connan demo is coming(360) and the ratchet and clank demo? Thanks Good gaming
Personally, I find the picture dubious. It's an attachment to a post on a forum, and it was that poster's first post, so it would seem that he signed up just so he could put that picture up. But regardless of whether the picture is real or phony, the fact that people are ready to believe the claim so easily speaks to how low public confidence in the 360's quality control has sunk. It will take months, if not years of trouble-free operation for MS to repair the damage that has been done by the initial batch of defective consoles.
"the fact that people are ready to believe the claim so easily speaks to how low public confidence in the 360's quality control has sunk"
You should not take N4G as the "public" since 80% of the people on here are raging fanboys who will use anything, true or false, to discredit a rival console. Also, 0.000001% of gamers world wide have read this thread so I would not make any conclusions about the public regarding this thread. I would go as far as to say that N4G is absolutely insignificant regarding anyhting about public perceptions of gaming since:
1. Its a site with user-controled content
2. 80% of users are fanboys
3. fanboys have shady propagandas
So sorry fanboys, all the blood, sweat and tears thats going in to the spreading of hate for your rival consoles on N4G are going by without anybody noticing.
I wonder how accurate this pic is.. Having your console on a carpet is always a big no no.. I'll wait for more reports myself..
Would make a hell of a story though if true...
its not M$ fault for making a defective console, its ours for putting it on carpet..... pfft...
this excuse always gets me.. you have to have special provisions for the 360 to work functionally. Call me crazy, but every single other console that I have had, the NES, Genesis, PS1, PS2,now PS3 I could put wherever the hell I wanted it, and it would still work and not break.. but I guess the 360 is special
Photos of consoles doing 3rl where NEVER reliable .. since you can cause it by enclosing the console (even the PS3 turns into a jet-engine this way.) ..
The only reliable news that should be ALLOWED to post would be official reports from stores, microsoft himself or at least a half-reliable website citing a personal case .. (Like IGN/Kotaku etc about their test machines.)
M$??? lol thats funny, you do know that it's the same company which still states that 360's failure rate is 3% lol
its know sony ppl are buying xbox 360 and opening then and losing the cpu which is quite easy to do and making the rrod appear its a sony ploy how come out of myhy 650 friends none has ever had the read ring of death maybe its cause i live in the uk aye ? its easy to induce the rrod