Anyone able to pry themselves away from Halo 3 might have noticed many of the Xbox Live arcade and other games weren't exactly working properly. Apparently the massive traffic influx from Halo 3 was to blame.
Thats an insane amount at one time.
What a bunch of crap. Ps3 has solid games meanwhile every game released on the 360 causes more and more problems. How on earth can people still say the ps3 is hard to dev for. Atleast it doesnt have these type of issues.
Pathetic. Seriously. Makes me wonder why i picked up the 360. Should had stayed with my Ps3. 360 is over hyped.
Of course there is not issues like this with PS3. There hardly is 100 people online at once in any game. We are talking over 1 million people here.
online there more lag
than the dreamcast
The 360 is not that bad but the lag is. Jesus!!! online sometimes lags so bad i feel like screaming!!!!
Severs would explode if more than 15k tried to play a single game at the same time. Cry more, nobody likes PSN, it's trash. You get what you pay for.
Me and my neighbors just played Warhawk today, and the servers were running just fine. I've seen up to 800 servers on busy days just for that title, so I'm pretty sure PSN can handle the traffic. Who knew that free online could equal lag-free gameplay?
How so??? Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the PS3 have similar problems with Warhawk, does that make your system one big glitch? The PS3 has problems of it's own, don't kidd yourself.
I almost never lag. In fact, last time I noticed real lag was in Prey last year.
My 2 cents.
Warhawk became extremely popular overnight and PSN wasn't ready for it but still ran very well. Still does.
Halo hit their target player based and should have been ready for it. Saying they weren't ready is no excuse just BS.
For the record I own both and overall Warhawk has had fewer issues during gameplay for me then Halo. Only big issue in Warhawk is joining servers but that has become steadily easier.
consoles need more dedicated servers simple as that.
edit @ uh_what, thanks mate, vaginal hygene should never be undertaken lightly!
@ i see your point, but please dont use anything produced with an EA symbol to try and prove a point, EA are c**ts.
@ i see where your coming from but thats beginning to change, all the big titles are going pc to such as COD4, which they'll look better on! if you got the rig of course, i do! =)
Ha PC's have always had lag. Hell with a 3GB connection I still rarely get anything below 100ms on BF2142, and back in the day when I used to play WOW I remember many a raids ruined because of lag.
Though I do agree that it would be just pleasant if both networks had dedicated servers, but I don't see that happening because of cost. :(
your right! because pc gaming dosent have any games. the last good game on pc was half life 2, and farcry. wich were both 3 years ago. crysis comming up in a month. only available to the nerdiest of pc gamers... ones that can afford 2000$ pcs..
you mean pc gaming doesn't have lag? really wow i did not know that...
You mean pc gamings servers cant go down? they all ways stay up?
You mean pc gamings computes dont have problems if i mess with settins they stay up regardless?
Wait pc gaming doesn't have even more of a problem with devs releaseing games that dont work that require a patch later to work? really i did not know that.
I could keep going but ill put it this way, PC gaming has all the problems of console gaming, both offline and online, and HAS MORE of it and more types to boot.
*counter strike, no longer has official valve servers, its all user run, and if you say any thing or play better then the host or owner? watch your ip get banned quick. and its not just saying bad words if he doesn't like ur voice on voice chat, or you have a different belief then him, he/she will ip ban you*
to chris_gtr1, dude your a complete fool, the 360 is a big peice of junk,i went through 2 of them and know countless others who have gone through more. most of them were smart enough to sell there crap box and buy one of the other systems instead. i went back to PC gamming which was the best choice i ever made. As for games available , try reading jackazz, i have been playing world in conflict 9.6 rating for a few weeks now, you wont have it until next year lol but to rub it in your face even more ALL games are not only more indepth, have more features, are $10 to $20 cheaper then 360 games They all look 5x better and are FREE to play online. Even on my cheapest $900 system lol
Get your facts straight blind fanboy.
i did not have to look to this site to figure out that halo was behind the slowdown on xbox live. live was slowing down and acting wierd befor it was out.
well you pay for what you get...
I don't know how people can say XBL is better than PSN when XBL has awful lag and costs $50 a year. Which would you prefer, an extra game each year or laggy online gaming?
Someone who's never touched XBL. Lag isn't nearly as often as you lemmings like to pretend. The games more often than not pick the best host, lag doesn't happen often. And when it does, it's the equivalent to your servers being taken down. I'd rather get that rare lag that fixes itself after awhile than having to wait to play because of your super omfg we got servers [email protected]
but switched over to Xbox Connect (a free solution) that runs the exact same way that Xbox Live does, through P2P technology. I got the same amount of Lag, but for less money. Microsoft charges money for their P2P service because of the $5 Billion in debt their Entertainment division has racked up. They're obviously only paying to have dedicated servers on the basic service side, i.e. downloadable TV shows and game content. Why they don't put the $250 million in annual Xbox Live Gold fees into creating dedicated servers for Online Multiplayer is beyond me. If Sony can pull it off, why can't Microsoft?
ummm no xbox connect doesn't work the same was as xbox live... your kidding your self if you think it does, but then again you problem dont have any knowledge of net protocols at all.
Connect tricks your xbox into running a lan game online, it is only till there after that P2P comes into play, And guess what it causes for even more lag then regular P2P gaming because it has to trick to xbox into running lan games over the net...And from what I've read it dont work on 360.
Oh and another thing.
Ps2 dedicated servers are geting shut down all the time now, What do you think will happen with ps3 dedicated servers after 2-3 years?
Xbox live? every game I own i can still play online, Ps2? nope quite a few of the online games I cant.
Only Americans and a few people in the UK are that stupid to pay for such garbage.
Almost 8 million. Compared to what, almost 4 on FREE PSN? Yeah, I think the number show which is better. Even in the ps2 days XBL dominated, and the ps2 user base what tripled or more the Xboxs? Yeah, the numbers speak for themselves.
Xbox had more online users than PS2 because Xbox Live was better than Sony's disjointed online system for their prior system. At the moment though, Sony actually has the exact same user-rate for online as Microsoft (PS3 <-> Xbox 360).
Xbox Live has more users, but Microsoft refuses to disclose the number of Gold Members, though sources have leaked out that out of 6 million Xbox Live users, only 4 million are Gold Members (i.e. able to play online). This is actually lower than the percentage of PS3 owners who play online and are able to use downloadable multiplayer content. Since Sony has such a high percentage of PSN users, game publishers and developers are seizing the opportunity to offer a lot of downloadable content for PS3 owners. Once PS3 surpasses the 360 in total hardware sales, Playstation Network will have more members capable of buying multiplayer content, such as new vehicles, skins, weapons, and maps. Developers have taken notice, and Microsoft really needs to start improving their service if they expect to keep their only advantage over Sony, which is Online.
I pray for dedicated servers. Give me that, please. $50 a month is enough for that. M$, I'm sure you making enough money off of microtransactions in Marketplace. Just give me dedicated servers.
Honestly. The lag isn't as bad as some make it out to be(cough cough Sony_squad).
It's really only bad maybe 10% of the time. But when it is bad, it makes me want to murder a newborn kitten.
Dedicated servers would make XBL 100% bliss, instead of 90% great fun.
Its not 50$ a month, its 50$ per year.
The online response to Halo 3 on XBL can only be a good thing. MS will get more dedicated servers. What does Sony have? They don't even have an online game with 1.5 million users simultaneously. I admit Warhawk is fun, but it'll never reach the masses as Halo will. At least MS has subscription money to maintain servers. Sony relies on developers.
but they're not using it on servers. In fact, online multiplayer for Xbox Live is completely P2P. The servers simply set up matches. Warhawk is the first installment, while Halo has gone through three installments. Considering Warhawk has already sold close to 400,000 units though, it's safe to say that it's gaining a large following.
Sony doesn't actually rely on developers; they simply give developers a choice to either run their own servers (which is what Epic Games and Square Enix prefer to do) or rely on Sony's internal network of dedicated cluster-servers (a la Warhawk).
Sony only offers dedicated servers for their first party titles that supports online. Every other game is p2p.
i never have lag on the 360 or live.. people need to stop stealing their neighbors internet and get their own... -.-
You hit the nail right on the head.If you get lag it's your connection not live. My connection is great on both the 360 and PS3.
you could have the best connection in the world, but still get lag if other people have poor connections.
the PSN network handle 1.5 million users in one game at once.
To those saying the PSN network has no lag, take that into account.
PC has no games, you conveniently forget that almost all multiplatform games are also being released on PC and one of the highest ranked games this year Bioshock is on PC also
please stop spewing your ignorance as fact
360 is falling apart
hey guys, this guy DJ, every time he refers to playing xbox an being on XBL he talking about the xbox 1. he said he switched to xbox connect!! right!! a service that didnt run as good as XBL, no in game chat,no cross game invites or any of the great XBL features, but you continue to bash XBL as if your using the current service!! you say sony has the same user rate as XBL, now what brings you to that conclusion!! the PSN probably has NOT hit 2 million FREE subscribers weres XBL has probably 6-7 million subscribers (gold-silver) so how does that show same user rate!! we all know how slanted you are towards the PS3 but when you bash on a system you dont even own is quite ridiculous!!
"when you bash on a system you dont even own is quite ridiculous!!"
I'm not referring to you, but thats all anyone in here ever does.
I bet you $1000 Mart, Bloodmask, Bladestar POG and all the other hardcore PS3 hating Bots dont have a PS3, nor the experience or time on it to properly comment.
At least when I bring up something I dislike about Xbox, its something I've found out while playing the damn thing. Voicing legitimate grievances is better than just being a whiny jerk on the internet.
the 360 version. I cared about gameplay performance since most of my time was spent playing Halo 2. There's nothing more frustrating than getting killed or losing out on potential kills just because of lag issues. It's bad enough that Halo 2 puts all gameplay to a hault at random moments, even on a great connection. It was kind of fun using my roommate's account, but we ended up switching over to Connect after his account expired. I told him I had heard of a free alternative, so he figured he'd give that a shot.
It's more manual work (Bungie's matchmaking system is the Best!), but the amount of control over who plays in your games is incredible. Having an automatic ping filter for anyone who tries to join a game you're hosting is damn sweet. The mod games were kinda fun to play around with as well.
Oh yeah: "During its live press conference occurring right now in Japan, Sony gave updated stats on the success of the PlayStation Network.
Over 2.7 million accounts have been created since the console’s launch late last year. The online service currently allows users to connect with gamers across the world and access the PlayStation Store."
That's approx 55% of all PS3 users having a PSN account; this is judged by the fact that PS3 sales at the time of TGS were between 5 and 6 million units (leaning towards 5).
DJ is a sonyladyboy he crys everynight to his mom to get him a 360 but can only afford a xbox 1 dudes we all know xblive is the bomb this is coming froma guy that played world of warcraft fr 1 yr and css for 1 year hahaha xblive amazed me its like ppl are using it like the pc net so many ppl alway online addicted to online play its liek adrg and live is more stable than the net p.S halo 3 looks better than any game coming for the ps3 in 2008 fact show me a game like halo 3 on ps3 with massive world and plz dont say resisitance as u can entwer air ships or entrer ever vwehiclie i the game and resisitance is not a amassive s halo with canyons mountains forest snow the whople works and u can destroy and enter all vehicles not like resistances were things are preprogrammed top happen like moh/call of duty single player modes
Halo.....damn, for a game with perfect 10's across the boards it sure has a lot of problems with it. So a game that freezes consoles, RROD, weak single player, the so called 640p, sub-par graphics and now lag on live is a perfect 10? -shruggs shoulders-......
@ WeaponX, so I suppose you are saying that Americans are stupid? Where do you come from? America is the richest country in the world, we also have the best military in the world, I suppose you are insulting the UK too. They are a very good country, and they have intelligent people, just like the U.S. They also have a powerful Military. I am really interested to know what great country you come from, apparently your country is much better. (sarcasm). Oh and to those who say there aren't good game's on PC, well there are two coming, Age of Conan and Pirates of the burning sea, just to name a few.
If you lag on xbox-live it is your fault not MS. You need to either open your NAT, disconnect your 10 computers, get rid of that crap wireless and go direct connect, and/or pay for a faster connection. I never have LAG on xbox-live...ever!
suse i was playing halo at my friends crib yesterday, his connection is perfect with his ps3 and pc yet his XBL lags, come on
BTW resistance has handled what like 2 million ppl with no lag
Halo3 has 5.5 million.
Rfom hasn't even sold 2 mil yet. Aa of today, it sold 1.6m, and probably would of been less if it wasn't for the church thing.
ironman dont be such a tool, RFOM has NEVER has that many people online!! better yet FROM probably hasnt even sold that many copies of the game. an whats with everybody thats complaining, they played halo at a buddys house or a cousins house at it lagged like crazy, these are lies because you dont own the system an your just making 5hit up! come on be for real!! you wanna talk about online problems, just look at the sheer amount of online games for the 360 apposed to the PS3, even petty little XBL arcade games are online. XBL lay host to WAY more online games than the PSN so your gonna get some form of lag from time to time. nothings perfect. I'm not trying to make excuses for MS but man you guys are way to hard on the things MS do online but sony gets a slap on the hand!! has sony EVER had a game were there over 650,000 people online at 1 time, an this goes for the PS2 also, can sony lay claim to that!! this is fanboyism at its worse!
lol... look at the Sony fanboys bashing Xbox live... what didnt PSN go down when they released their first demo? ohh wait.. here is a better one... how about 15 minutes to join 1 game on Warhawk because they couldnt handle the bandwidth... and you guys are talking about xbox live issues when millions of people are hitting the services at the sametime... watching movies.. playing games... downloading demos... lol... only sony fanboys.... I was playing helo yesterday and it said more than 1.6 Mil people were online... PSN would melt with that many users... wait.. I they wouldnt even that that many users.
ok it does not take me 15 minutes to get in warhawk only about 30 secs ok you wouldn't know because you've never played warhawk, and we watch movies we play games and download demos on PSN don't be such a troll and if there were 1.6m people in a game it would be lag free like all the other games are lag free because PSN is just that sweet.
It really amazes me to see such stupid 360 fanboys comments bashing the other systems when there own 360 system has a All Time World Record Failure Rate of over 32%, Micro-Bots pay $50 per year for xbox live service which there forced to update there console with patches that kill (brick) there system. lol Then they have to pay Microsoft $140 to repair the system. lol To add insult to injury they get a beat up used refurb system that bricks within months.
Smarten & growup X-box fanboys.
I prefer live, just me..PSN, now if there was to be a joke, it would be PSN(yes, I do own a PS3). I have lag issues quite often, but ya know what, everything has lag sometimes.
PSN SUCKS. WACKSTATION 3 SUCKS. XBOX360 RULES.
that added a lot of ground breaking new ideas to the discussion. I'm glad you created an account here...
You buy a 600$ machine yet complain that you have to pay for Xbox Live which is only like 22 cents per day? Get a job.
I laugh at you 360 guys who talk junk about Warhawk problems(free online) but defend live problem(50$) lol hypocrites!
I have'nt had ANY problems with lag, freezing or any other issue.
What I HAVE noted is that if a player attempting to join one of my co-op or multiplayer games does not have a good connection, the player will not be allowed to join.
No lag, just frag. FRAG, I said, FRAG!!!
Halo 3, BEST and MOST COMPLETE console FPS ever!
come n man, stop being such a fanboy and say the truth, I sell video games for all the systems. Lately all i have been hearing from my customers is that Halo3 is 95% the same as Halo2 It was way overhyped and the graphics are slightly better if not the same as Halo 2. There are only a few more weapons and vehicles then halo2 and the game is way to short. Most feel it was a waste of $60.
Fanboy just an avid gamer with more exerience than most. Halo 2 graphics? Absolutely NO! While Halo 3's graphics are not comparable to GOW or Bioshock, they're not far behind either. And certainly a HUGE step up from Halo 2.
I meant what I said about Halo 3 being the most complete console fps ever. There's just so much to do, find and customize. Halo's multiplayer is second to none---period.
Who's a fanboy? Sounds like YOU have a problem with Halo 3's success.
WHAT A LIVE GAME WITH GLITCHES?OH NO!!! That's what you guys get, after you made a big deal out of the glitches in warhawk. How does that humble pie taste?
For having balls to say that on a Xbox forum. Have a bubble cause your prolly gonna lose a few =P
Come back and talk sh!t when one of your games has almost 2 million go on Live at once, oh wait my bad you don't have any. Now go play your most popular game RFOM with it's 700k users and only half of that playing online.
The smell of desperation in the air gets stinker and stinker each day Droids, go take a shower or somthing you guys reek of it.
People say that the PSN servers have no more than 100 people online at once. Well, look at Warhawk, they had about 20000 people online at once and it never caused server glitches. Sure, Warhawk servers were down for a few hours but PSN was fine and dandy along with it's download service. And the reason that XBL is better is because people pay for it and Microsoft is making money. All of my friends with 360 don't even connect it to online after one month because the trial period is up and they don't want to pay and I know that I wouldn't too if I had a 360.
So in conclusion, XBL is almost 5 years old. PSN is 1. 360 and Halo have more users, PS3 and RFOM have less. XBL have more glitches and PSN has none. XBL costs money, but PSN doesn't. At the end of the day, it all evens out.
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