NowGamer: Patent litigation expert Robert Buchan has told NowGamer that if the PlayStation 3 is found to infringe LG patents, the costs to Sony could be astronomical..
if Sony found guilty and have to pay 65 percent of the profits the ps3 generated it will be catastrphic to there gaming division. They could very well start selling off or close down some of there game development studios.
65%? First of all, they would only be paying a fee, not profit, on the use of BD technology. And, even then, only a portion of the overall costs specific to LG's involvement, not the total cost since they don't outright own the technology or methodologies. Second, profits are mostly from software and peripheral sales. And by a huge margin as well. So, paying fees may be costly, it won't cripple Sony in any way equivalent to 65% of profits from PS3s. Personally, if they don't settle on Sony's side, both Sony and LG will work something out. They both rely on each other a bit too much for their various endeavors.
There are a couple of ways to pay: a) x amount per unit b) a lump sum However, this could be very costly considering Sony is the one in a huge disadvantage during negotiations. Even $1 per PS3 would net a damage of $50 million. The damage is done and millions more are coming off the assembly line.
As I said, costly, but not all that damaging. $1 per unit is a hit, but nothing that would halt any of their business at the moment. More than likely they would spend a bit less on R&D, which is where they throw the majority of their profits into at the end of the day and why they show such low reports on profit each quarter. Furthermore, that $1 would decrease in value over time as the costs for production would also decrease. I'm not saying it wouldn't cost them, but nowhere near what FrigidDarkness claimed and nowhere near as much that it would in any way truly affect their ability to continue to produce games for us. Especially since those budgets most likely come from software profits and not from hardware profits.
Hopefully Sony will lose this 1. Not liking them in these days. Even Sony fanboys can admit this. Oh wait, they're Sony fanboys. They'll never say anything negative about Sony even though it's true. Bring on the disagrees, bitches!
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Down with LG! I'm happy to say that I've never bought an LG product.
@frigiddarkness where did you dig up that 65 percent?
it's an analogy.
how the hell is that an analogy at all? WTF are you talking about? Dont make things up that are clearly untrue
"it's an analogy. " Wich is an analogy for i made up stuff on the spot ? :p
people don't seem to understand what the word analogy means.
I find it odd that LG are suing Sony on Blu-Ray when Sony created the Blu-Ray standard. They currently run the Blu-ray Group. I reckon this is a CD drive door not paid for type patent that hasn't been paid for.
I skimmed the statement of claim quickly. The document, from what I could understand, has something to do with how the drive reads data from the disc, something to do with reading both read-only Blu-rays and writable Blu-rays. And it may only pertain to a specific newer model of PS3 or at least LG only mentioned one model.
Considering the ongoing suits Sony has against LG... and vica versa... it'd probably result in some form of settlement where they drop eachothers charges. This is just a counter suit really. Sony did the same thing to LGs phones http://www.xbitlabs.com/new...
Now we know why MS stuck with DVD9.
...and made even less disc space available on them then xbox 1 discs I dont know why they did that. Surely that cant be good for gamers. Share the secret with us meerkat, you seem to know
My God man, must you always have something negative to say about MS? Obvious fanboy is obvious.
And here I thought it was because they had no vision of the future when in fact they knew the future and it involved being sued.
They used dvd becuase they rushed the 360 out of the door hd dvd and blu ray where unfinished when 360 was in production.
The fact that Blu-Ray on the PS3 exist hasn't changed a darn thing for me in terms of enjoying games, so it has negligible if any impact on the Xbox 360.
I don't see how 1 company can own the patents when it was a collaboration of companies who created the Blu-Ray standard, shouldn't they all equally part own the patents? After reading the other article in the pending section LG wants to hope and pray they win, as Sony would be able to hold them accountable for any losses etc incurred. Although I honestly don't see how LG can
LG is suing and they got a judge to agree to halt shipments. Steve Jobs said that the whole Blu-Ray licensing thing was a nightmare, seems he was right.
By the looks of things I'd have to agree, I'm sure this is gonna cause major problems in the Blu-Ray association (or whatever its called)
lol and in the meanwhile sony is shipping to all of europe but holland........... and just this month they have the number 1 console in every region........... and sony will probably settle since they are suing each other . Will probably get resolved before the 10 day holland ban is up
man, this is getting heated. i hope the media is just blowing things out of proportion like it usually does.
In a weird and quite remarkable way, this lawsuit could work in Sony's favor. Imagine the panic buying that will take place if consumers believe it'll be hard to get hold of hardware. The legal costs are already part of the contingency budget....you think this is the first time either company has been sued?? ...and still in these dark days the PS3 has the best line up of any console this generation. The PS3 lives suckers!!
@sway__z good point, I can tell you it's already happening by people thinking there is a buy and sell opportunity.
Sorry, but I kinda want to punch your avatar in the face lol.
I doubt it..I'm pretty sure the whole Blu-ray association would counter sue LG and put them to place where they belong.. GARBAGE!!
I'm pretty sure you don't know what you are talking about.
thats what i keep saying i think they are all under the terms of the b.d.a the more and more i look at this the more it looks like a pay back not for money but just to screw sony over a bit for what they did to them
they always pick on the nice guy.....or the most profiting,in this case
Sony is the nice guy? NO company is nice. Regardless if it's Sony, LG, MS, Apple, AMD, IBM, Astro-Glide, coo-coo for coco puffs..whatever.... These are CORPORATIONS and their FIRST responsibility is to shareholders and profits. If they could throw consumers under the bus and still make profits, they would. Don't kid yourself. Profits come first for corporations. There is nothing nice about it. Thats how business works. Its how they stay in business. Nice has nothing to do with it
profits come first yet im still playing on psn for free Thats pretty nice of sony
Of course. They provide billions to economies and provide employment to millions of people and supporting industries. Of course they are evil lol! Dude, business as you mentioned is about profit. Why is that not a nice thing?. Isn't getting more profit good for the ecconomy which is good for everyone?. The key is getting those profits within the limit of law which most of them have done so. Otherwise they wouldn't be in business anymore. Don't try and paint things in black and white.
sure lieing cheating and stealing is what hte nice guy would do.
Only problem is that LG is a little bit allergic to profit, and if they lose the lawsuit that Sony brought against them it will devastate them. This console 'ban' won't last, won't matter, and is just a stall tactic by LG to try and hurt Sony a smidge before Sony obliterates them. The fact that LG managed to get a judge to agree on a ban because of Blu-ray is astounding, and the judge has been played for a fool because there's no way Sony is actually infringing on LG and whatever they think they have going on with BD. LG is in the wrong here and history will remember that fact, as well as the fact that LG makes garbage products.
in brackets (we hope!) gloating is so ugly
@Hoops Yes bloody true, but if I pick the lesser of 2 evils....Sony wins hands down!
I'm guessing if they lose it will be 100-200 million or approx 2-4 dollars a console, what I can't make baseless predictions, Patcher makes a living off of it.
Mike & Rowsoft lawyers
@balesco It's cool you can punch my avatar in the face...i'm sure there's no law against it lol *Not a Scarface fan I take it?
As per usual people blow Sony news out of proportion. Even if they should win I doubt it will 'cripple' Sony. They will just probably work out a price and move on. Sony is a giant multimillion dollar company. You people really don't think this will hurt them that much? Besides like someone said it's not all of Europe. LG probably barely slowed them down.
if sony loses the lawsuit , we might not see a $199 ps3 this year :(
According to the news, UK customs have already banned the sale of PS3s for 10 days. Hopefully this will all blow over soon. 0.o
That's kinda hits ya hard dont it? Wow Sony Sony Sony tut tut tut... The scariest thing here is what IF Microsoft and Nintendo were the only 2 left around making consoles? Microsoft will go all out making a beast leaving Nintendo to make some new novelty that everyone loves for a brief period the prices will be HUGE! Less competition is higher prices for all.
"The scariest thing here is what IF Microsoft and Nintendo were the only 2 left around making consoles? Microsoft will go all out making a beast" Umm no they wouldn't, they'd keep the 360 going until 2015 at the very least. As you say, there'd be no competition, but it won't happen anyway.
I think Sony would partner with some big name company before they think about leaving the gaming industry
Sony!!! Sony!!! Sony!!!
Funny how ps3 fanboys deny the truth and can't accept that LG makes better products.Enough is enough ps3 fanboys you passed the line.I call out all 1 bubble gamers who were stormed by ps3 fanturds to troll every ps3 article because war is answered by war.
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