Developer also says it's hard at work on a "great project"
a new engine would be good id actually look forward to the next CoD
Normally I would agree but with a new team (Sledge Hammer)and a second rate team at I.W. working on the next COD I'd hate to add a new engine into that mix as well. Between I.W. and Treyarch releasing broken game after broken game on an engine they already know I don't have any confidence in the next COD game.
Trusting a billion dollar franchise to a development team that has no proven track record is beyond insane. http://www.sledgehammergame...
^^ http://www.sledgehammergame... Plenty of industry experience and plenty of proven employees.
"simply clarifying with that user that we never - for any game - build a 'brand new' engine, but iterate on a solid base" ok so he's basically saying that building a brand new engine is counter productive... ... --_-- Bowlings a douche.
sledgehammer games is a new team setup, im very very pleased to hear those people are working at the next cod. most of them are from the dead space core team wich is one of the BEST new franchises this gen. im totally confinced that they could revamp cod like mw2 did
Pixelated_Army, belive me, it does not matter, they are just going to copy pasta that shit anyways!
. They already have a genre leading 60 fps...lol...on a genre leading engine. The lighting, the incredible smooth game play won't be matched on consoles... http://www.youtube.com/watc... Modern warfare 2 sold 20+ million and deserved to sell 50 million even if I think they stole a lot of game play from Criterions last gen/next gen fps title Black...still COD MW2 was awesome.. http://www.youtube.com/watc... The haters, especially around here like to talk but COD does the walk. I can't wait till E3 for the unveiling. I think, judging by MOH, that the Frostbite 2/ Battlefield engine will look fantastic and hope to see actual console game play at E3...but the game play will be the final factor and that's where Dice has a big problem. The multi-player is where they have to better COD...good luck... http://www.youtube.com/watc... Wagering... http://www.youtube.com/watc... Customization... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
@shikamaroooo The question is are they capable of building a new game engine? The old IW created the engine used in every game since CODMW, Treyarch have been using this engine for how long now? and yet it still suffers from horrendous bugs that Treyarch seem incapable of fixing. As far as I'm concerned Treyarch don't seem up to the task of creating a better game engine than what they have now, and thats why they stick to the one that was created for them.
Actually no IW didn't make that engine its just an old ID tech engine.
Sledgehammer is still riding on infinity ward original nuts just like treyarch.
i hate activision. an i find hard to believe how two of biggest figures involve with original Dead Space could come to craptivision ! maybe they see dollar signs instead of good games now....
SHUT UP AND MAKE GAMES THAT IS NOT GARBAGE!!
COD4 was not garbage. Oh, and it's "are" when it's plural.
How about they at least improve their engine? Have they not seen the work that's been going on at Dice and their BF3?? How come Black Ops doesn't look that different from MW2?
It does look alot different from MW2... they just went the wrong way with it LOL.
Black Ops is running on a different fork of the engine that Modern Warfare 2 is. Treyarch's engine has modifications that IW's engine doesn't and vice versa. I think Black Op's engine was a step down from World at War. There were a few scenes in World at War that were pretty jaw dropping, nothing like that in Black Ops but plenty of cringe worthy scenes.
Blacks Ops engine was F upped idk what Treyarch did to the ID engine to make it worse than previous games but it sucked.
@egidem But what's there to improve ? Its still the same heavily modified q3 engine . I dont think there are that more juice to squeeze from it . Yet of course that's what they'll keep doing for a while
Way to confirm MW3 Infinity Ward :/
We really shouldn't blame the developers...it's the publisher that needs shooting. Treyarch are talented but the publisher tells them what to do (like at your place of work buddy), so action acti-shite and leave infinity (what's left of them) ward to do their jobs.
Bubbles to you people rant and rant about the developers being horrible people and lazy. yes granted some are but most are not. As someone who knows some devs from rock star Leeds and rock star north I heard many stories of how big bosses have so many restrictions like time, things not to include to the next game time restriction on certain platforms.
nope the developper is still to blame too in cod's instance . When you face such work conditions , and after at least two number one hits under your belt , you can always request stuff or move on to another publisher . Instead they reveal in the same status quo and mediocrity
Thank god for Battlefield 3
Bubbles for you :)
They will use id Tech 5 for the next COD.
impossible , bethesda got dibs on it for their games . And Activision wont kill the golden goose yet
@Kran Agreed....Bubble up dude!
In other words they're way too far into development to start again with a new engine - MW3 will look just like all the previous COD games. I don't care, I'm not buying another COD until next gen
I'm not buying another COD game full stop. Activision have had their chance, I'd rather buy in to better FPS franchises like Battlefield.
Why would they want a new engine? The name of the game is cranking out a new title every year (between the two developers). A new engine would slow that down and hurt their profits. Who wants that? Except us gamers. But who are we to complain...
Man the only reason I might pick this game up is because of Sledghammer but still this game better be an almost exact copy of COD4 with better guns, streaks, and maps if they can’t pull that off then forget about it I already own MW2 so I don’t need another bug infested beta. Also if its in anyway like BO ill buy it just to set it on fire xD
Fuck right off Infinity Ward. You still owe me $70 for that P.O.S you called "Black Ops"
so a developer who didnt develop BLOPS owe's you $70?
Ugh, *Trey Arch. You damn well knew what I meant
i still love the dynamic engine of Source. still looks really really good on PC for being released in 2004.
Yes The source is one of my favorite game engines ever. it's rock solid, the most optimized engine ever. Valve is looking to add more "new tech" to HL2 ep3. The Source engine is based off the Unreal Engine just like COD but Valve are far superior developers than whats at Activision because Valve was one of the first to have HDR lighting effects in a game HL2 the lost coast.
actually Source is based off the old Quake engine. :)
I definitely cant complain with it because it runs fast and smooth without looking spectacular. But then again, I'm a person who thinks spectacular graphics is overated.
Raven Software is doing the mutiplayer God help us
All these developers and publishers complain about Piracy is taking money away from developers having the ability to make quality games. But Activision who has made Billions of dollars from COD will not take the time to make a new game engine. Matter of fact they don't even take the time to make a quality product. Their releases are becoming even more bug riddled than ever. Activision has no excuse to release low quality product like they do. They had a ton of money after Cod mw1 sold millions of units to make a new game engine but they continue to use the same old crap and still can't perfect it. meanwhile The Source engine is old as dirt but Valve continues to add new tech to the engine and release near flawless games.
Counter Productive means they wouldnt have enough time to meet the yearly deadline... Add that to the fact they know it would lower their profit margin. Knowing 10+ Million are gonna buy the game regardless of what engine they use... I havent seriously played COD since MW2 came out... And it only took me about 1 month to realize Activision had officially started the milk machine... Picked up Bad Company 2 and havent looked back since... At this point... Im not even gonna COD bash... Just bring on BF3...
bet you its same engine with additions to it like usual. I have only owned 1 cod game in my life - black ops. Happy to say it hasnt lasted longer than only afew months.
Battlefield 3 will destroy not just the COD franchise, but Activision.
So is it me, or is just "cool" to hate on Black Ops and MW2, and any developer who's responsible for their creation? I think i'll be the first N4G user to say I really enjoyed both games quite a bit, and I'm looking forward to MW3. I understand why "pure" or "hardcore" gamers hate these COD games--because they haven't innovated or done anything new since 2007, AND because they've created a sort of casual console gamer--we all know those dudes that ONLY play COD multiplayer and that bothers us because we know they are missing out on some great and varied gaming experiences by limiting their view to COD's tunnel vision. COD's formula could use a rebuild, but you can't blame the devs/publishers for this: from an industry standpoint, they've found a formula that works, (that sells) and they chose to stick with it for a while. I'll be the first to admit that 2007's COD4 was like a fresh meal hot from the oven, and every COD entry since has just been re-heated leftovers. But I still enjoyed them all and I still want more. When this guy is talking about how it's "counter productive" to make a brand new engine for COD, he probably really means "we want it to feel the same, so the same 5,000,000,000 people that bought it the last 2-3 installments will come back for more. Everyone wants to argue and point fingers at the publishers but they just want to make money--it's an industry. And If you have a problem with this you should probably not buy any more games, because by doing so, you are voting with your wallet... and when a game hits the shelf and sells millions of copies, there's usually a sequel, and the suquel usually won't break any new ground in terms of gameplay/presentation if the previous installment sold bajillions of copies. (examples: The COD series, Fallout 3/Fallout New Vegas, GTA III/Vice City/San Andreas, Rainbow 6/Rainbow Six Vegas, Bioshock 1 and 2, and pretty much ANY EA Sports Game)
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