Battlefield 3: 'A Game For Grown-Ups'

NowGamer: DICE's Patrick Bach has taken a swipe at Battlefield's "sugar rush" rivals, saying it isn't "trying to achieve what the others are trying to achieve"...

[2fk]

yup agreed...BF3 is going to be amazing....hey kids wana stick nine inch nails in each one of your eyelids go play COD

[velocitygamer]

Of course it's a game for grown-ups. It's not for little 12 year olds that have fuzzy bluetooth headsets e.g cod fanboys.

[OhMyGandhi]

fuzzy blue tooth headsets makes you a COD Fanboy?
I learn something new everyday.

[multipayer]

It stands for call of duty quality, bad netcode, ugly graphics, "fuzzy" sounding headsets. No offense to your frilly pink headsets.

[AAACE5]

The more I hear about this game the more I want it! Sounds like exactly whats been missing.

I still don't get why people hate Call of Duty so much! It's just a game! Some will like, some won't!

Don't get your hopes up though, because like everything else, those little kids you dislike so much like to do what the big boys are doing. So they will show up in Battlefield 3 just like they did on Rainbow six games.

[thugbob]

Killzone needs to take notes from these guys. Instead of noobing KZ3 down for children. They should have built off KZ2 for grown ups.

This article has me hyped for BF3 now.

Looks like BF3 and Brink will be my shooters now.

[Downtown boogey]

@2fk

That was... Mature...

[2fk]

why thank you i tried

[SuperLupe]

Dont worry guys, wont be very long before the COD crowd moves to Battlefield if it delivers.

[2fk]

don't worry bro it will deliver

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Highly doubt it. Battlefield is a better game, but it won't ever sell COD numbers.

[xVeZx]

i hope it does im very curious to see what else activision has after cod goes down like guitar hero did

[cyborg6971]

This can sell cod numbers. How many did bad co 2 sell 6, 7 million. It can happen and what will accelerate this is making the same cod as it has been doing since the forth one. Judging by the comments I read earlier from IW about creating a new engine next falls cod will be the same shit.

[DarkSpawnClone]

it wont, cod fans are hardcore cod fans I'm sure a lot will get bf3 but they will all go back to cod eventually just wait mw3 will probably out sell black ops i would bet on it lol,but tbh i really don't need cod players in my battlefield games :P

[thugbob]

This article got me officially hyped for BF3.

[jimmins]

COD will have it's place, but the gulf could end being like quake 3 compared to Half Life

[bwazy]

Hell's yeah!

[LoaMcLoa]

Hell is yeah?

I'd prefer heaven, but whatever.

[TronEOL]

Damn straight it will be and it better stay that way.
I could care less for things like auto-aim or easy difficulties. All I want is them to stay incredibly true to the gritty realism of war.

If they change anything because the media doesn't like it, I'll be quite upset with them. The game will sell regardless.

[James Vanderbeek]

never really got into battlefield games but this is sparking my interest. looks sick..

[mightyboot]

i dunno about that because before cod4 never imagined kids playing it.

I just hope this doesnt turn out to be an upgraded Medal of Honor with a generic 5-6 hour singleplayer.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Upgraded Medal of Honor? I'm thinking a vastly upgraded Battlefield 2.

[mightyboot]

Maybe on PC i mean consoles.

[Captain Tuttle]

The smack talk is delicious.

[DelbertGrady]

Grown-ups who like to play war. I've been playing the Crysis 2 mp demo for a while and while it was ok what struck me is how crucial level design is. And that's one of the things DICE are best at imo. It's what keeps me coming back to BF BC 2.

[Raven_Nomad]

"Bach added that DICE isn't interested in what its competitors are doing."

What an idiotic statement, it's clear that they care what the competitors do. Obviously the competition is selling 20+ million copies of their games each year and you guys are selling 5 million. Trying to take on the big boys, you better bring your A game, because it's going to take a lot more then talk to even put a dent in the COD franchise.

[Rainstorm81]

Sales =/= Quality

One day it'll sink in

[Raven_Nomad]

I agree sales don't equal quality, but what exactly does equal quality? I mean we keep hearing this, but if you want facts, like sales, then those are some staggering numbers, 20+ million people aren't going to continually buy something that is horrid.

If you go by review scores then COD is tops there too, they are always scored between 9-10. So they are fun games, they sell well and are received well by critics. So I guess all that stuff combined equals quality in my book.

I think this whole "Sales don't equal quality" thing is something chumps say to make themselves feel better when the games they like don't do well in the sales department.....Not my problem.

[Topshelfcheese]

@Raven_Nomad

The problem with your statement, is that quality is an opinion. Have you ever played a game that you really liked, that didn't review well, or sell well? I'm sure you have.
Therefore, sales/reviews/etc don't mean anything but the "majority" opinion. A gamer shouldn't care about that, and just play the games they like.

[NeloAnjelo]

@ Raven_Nomad...
Hello again Raven! I keep finding you in the pro-COD comments camping out like a true COD player.

Quality is consistent delivery of a distinguishing attribute... The only distinguishable COD in terms of gameplay was COD4:MW. Every MW will now imitate this model, like how the COD stand alones are all copies of each other. Examples of quality games that didn't sell well? I think my post will be too long if I start listing.

[Rainstorm81]

So what is it when a great game doesnt sell? Is it trash?

Games like Shadow of the Collosus, Okami, Jade Empire and Valkyria Chronicles didnt sell like MW2 are they bad games? Actually quite the opposite...

Because a game has Mass Appeal does it make it great? COD appeals to the core casual crowd so it sells like hotcakes....

If sales show the quality a product....Pokemon and Wii sports is two of the best games of this gen, the wii is the best console of all time next to the ps2 and ps1.

If we go by ratings the best game of all time is GTA4 according to metacritic......the first COD game is MW2 at around #30 under Out of the park baseball 2007.....

Do you see how flawed that train of thought is??

Games should be judged on thier own merit...not off the success or lack of success of another title.

[MysticStrummer]

No, it will never sink in for many. The herd mentality is a force to be reckoned with.

[Pandamobile]

He just means that they're not trying to out-do COD by copying it.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

A lot of those people are buying Call of Doo Doo because other people are buying it. The me too syndrome. It doesn't matter about putting a debt in that franchise. That's the point. DICE had the better game.

[BeaArthur]

Well to be honest Call of Duty is also a game for adults...it says so on the box. Lot of shitty parents out there.

[HeavenlySnipes]

Someone went and disagreed with EVERYONE

[bitboi]

at the end of the day, military shooter is military shooter.

[GothicFighter]

And we all know millions of stupid kiddos will still buy CoD.
BF3 ftw

[awiseman]

twitch soldier on drugs LOL

thats a hit on COD

[FantasyStar]

I think the journalists accidentally mispelled ArmA 2.

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ArmA 2 is the game for Grown-Ups. All Military shooters before ArmA 2 is foreplay.

[Raider69]

Arma 2 dont come near BF2 lol!Just like BFBC 2 dont come near to the original BF2!If BF3 comes the killer app BF2 still is than nothing will get closer to it for along time!Most kids dont know what BF2 is thats the reason they mention BF Bad company wend comparing with other games in the segment.Old gunners know that the original BF2 is still the Best!

[FantasyStar]

Really now? BF2 > ArmA2?

C'mon....I stopped playing BF2 in 2008 and still play BF 2142 to this day, but you have to admit that the scope of BF2 is enclosed to a sizable map, which is cool. When you play ArmA, or the original OFP: you have an entire island to play with and Ops take hours to play through.

I like BF2 as much as any other guy who watched "Mine" back in 2006 and the Dophine dive technique IMO, originated in BF2. But there's a world of difference between BF2 and ArmA2.

Even die-hard RTS fans will say that while Starcraft 2 is pretty cool and neat, it just doesn't hold a candle to Sins of a Solar Empire on the hardcore scale. Same can be said for ArmA2. To call BF2 "grown-up" is euphemism at its finest.

[Shackdaddy836]

Lot of bragging going on at EA and DICE... They totally deserve it with this game though...

[NeloAnjelo]

Agreed! Battle field has come a long way. It much more hardcore and less arcady. People actually play as teams and do objectives, rather than try to rack up streaks and gain shitty perks... like dogs, choppers, etc.

[xtremegamerage]

Goto

www.gamersyde.com/

Download the HD video of BF3. It's like 284mb

Looks much better then the other video's out.

It's actually HD.

[gypsygib]

""Bach added that DICE isn't interested in what its competitors are doing. "I think it’s important that we don’t try and copy someone else. We’re not trying to achieve what the others are trying to achieve.""

They don't need too BFBC2 already had the best MP last year, it actually made you feel like you were on a Battlefield.

[W34KN35S]

i'll just say that the Battlefield games are GREAT games but because they do not appeal to the core crowd in any way, COD will always bring in more sales until people eventually get tired of it. Personally for me , I didnt enjoy playing BF games because of two main reasons 1) I am more of an infantry on infantry guy, I want to shoot people and have people shoot at me not get blown up by tanks and helicopters , I dont want to have to rely on vehicles to win.2) I dont have any friends to play that game with and when you make a game solely based on teamwork, and always play with randoms not working as a team the game can also lack in the fun department. The ONLY reason games like Halo and COD sale more is because they are WAY easier to play and enjoy, and have a small learning curve.

[rlm41]

The BF series aint gonna take the crown from CoD anytime soon.. They are both unique and different kind of shooters though the majority of the market will opt for the arcadey, less serious, more fun game - Call of Duty. Myself included.