Dragon Age 2 is coming to PC, Xbox 360 and PS3. If you want to play it now, download the demo. Here's a quick graphcis comparison between PC and Xbox 360. And no, there are no big differences. Sorry, PC-Guys.
ok, small screenshots prove nothing. Performance wise 60fps+ on PC vs consoles 30, resolutions up to 2500x1660 vs 720p native? Bioware game as well so you know PC will have improved textures/lighting etc so this "comparison" is dumb.
While the comparison is dumb, console fans are overlooking one very important point, if games wont be pushing hardware. Which is the recent trend with most games out. They seem to run fine with 2-3 years old hardware since they are designed with consoles in mind first. All of us know how old console tech is. Most games on current mid range hardware runs at 2560*1600 with 4x-8x aa, lets be honest here not many PC gamers will be using those resolutions. Most gamers will be at 1080p which is a cake walk. It will lead to people not needing upgrades, it already has for anyone whos bought a well balanced PC in the last few years and hasnt decided to go multi screen gaming. It will lead to a decline in sales for comapanies like AMD and Nvidia. Which will mean less research going in toward future hardware and may result in an overall stagnation of tech. There were recent rumors of an AMD sell out. If such a thing does happen it wont be pretty for any of us gamers be it Nvidia or AMD. If the tech from these companies becomes unavailable, console makers will need to invest billions to create tech for the next console and still may not be able to deliver the kind of chips we have from these GPU makers today. Imo the games market becoming stagnant and not taking advantage of hardware can lead to bad things. Console fanboys who think otherwise should think again.
Lets not forget that modern GPU's can overide game settings and force higher than normal graphics (AA, minimap, normal map etc.) There will be better graphics on my PC regardless of what this dude says. Being in full HD alone will make the PC version look better. HURP A DERP article.
Who really cares about the graphics? On a nice computer I'm sure they'll be tighter if someone has the right setup. A game like Dragon Age is so much more than graphics. I'm a console player and I admit I am envious of the mouse/keyboard controls that a CPU has. It is much easier to access spells, skills, and items. IMO that is where PC has over the 2 console versions.
imvix, take a look at the new battlefield 3 gameplay trailer and you will see you don't have to worry about devs not taking advantage of hardware :)
Regardless of the initial graphical quality (something tells me they set the PC up with low to mid-level quality graphics as it is), the one thing we can expect with DA2 on the PC are community mods that will make this game shine like no other version of it. @imvix: They've already stated that the toolset used to make DA2 is very similar to DA:O and that they would do what it takes to update the community toolset to work with DA2. Even then, the community can already use the same toolset for graphical enhancements.
I dont think they have released mod tools for the game. They would rather sell DLCs. Its the reason why devs prefer forcing people onto consoles. Its easy to make console gamers buy DLC after DLC. PC gamers actually demand freedom to create their own content which extends the life of a game.
Blow these shots up to fullscreen and compare against native 1080p with 8xAA. Then tell me again that there's no difference.
Plus the demo is in Direct X 9, the full game will be available in Direct X 11
Da:O on PC looked leaps and bounds better then the console versions. why would the 2nd be any different?
Because the first 1 didnt run well on consoles, it had frame rate issues on the PS3 (because PS3 version offered better textures), while Xbox had good frame rate it had poor textures. In a word there was compromise on both the consoles. PC version was the best overall version. Since the Consoles couldnt handle the first game well they decided to dumb it down in terms of graphics.
what the hell are you talking about ? It wasnt dumbed down from the first game . The first game didnt look better at all , and consoles have enough games that look far better than DAO anyway . The only difference is DAo was optimized like crap on consoles , while the second one fares better
<<The first game didn't look better at all>> Graphically speaking, it's much better than both console builds. Curiously, the PC version's .ini files even include resolution settings, suggesting that the textures on PS3 and Xbox 360 are just 25 per cent of the size compared to the PC build when it's running in "high" mode. As you can see from the comparison gallery, the cutbacks to texture quality on both console builds have been quite severe. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
@ct03 I dont get you point , i'm talking about DAO vs DA2 . I dont need to be told something as obvious as pc run it better than consoles . He is basically saying that DA2 looks worse than DAO because consoles couldnt handle DAO . Wich is ridiculous
VERY HIGH settings DX11 on the demo is LOCKED on PC. Jeez thats why they look similar
It isn't on mine? :S I can run very high with DX11, mind you it's a little buggy and I'm only getting like 15-20 fps. I still don't think there's much difference, but I did play it on my PC yesterday and my Xbox today so maybe I can't tell having not seen them side by side. But tbh if you need to see them side by side to see a noticeable difference, the differences aren't noticeable at all.
also, the PC v. console versions had different gameplay.
yeah we know that up-to-date PC hardware is a waste of money, oh unless you consider playing at resolutions that do virtually nothing but make it look 'a bit cleaner' is worth almost a generation difference in hardware but of course PC hardware whores will fill this topic with worthless number crunching that noone cares about but the people that waste their money on attaining it oh my godz! teh 2560 res, only teh 720P........WHO CARES!! If im gonna upgrade my PC it'l be when the next gen of consoles come out cause only then will PC's hardware get utilised anything close to what console's do it these people that ruin the industry by focusing on technical aspects and numbers instead of good and consistent visual design, which has in part lead to PC gamings current state
If your a defeatist communist maybe lol. EDIT: Only if you are content with second best gaming and the next console day 1 will still only be second best.
yes I have my moments I also play PC games but im not a moronic number crunching elitist PC fanboy, concerned with justifying money spent on hardware that simply isnt needed I upgrade when I feel it is REALLY needed, and until the next gen of console's come out........it isnt
If you want to go on money wasted I have a PC with 260 Steam games and counting I have a PS3 with about 20 games and counting I have a 360 with about 15 games and counting I have a Wii with about 10 games and counting and so on My PC system all together comes to about £1600 and games about £1100. My PS3 was £425 and £300 because of YLOD and games about £900. So my PC is about £2700 (including 260+ games) So my PS3 is about £1625 (including < 20 games) I got 10 of thousands of hours out of my PC and I use it everyday for at least 4 hours for leisure. Plus its never failed I got probably less than 1 thousand hours out of my PS3 and I only use it for exclusives and PlayTv. Plus I've had 1 fail on me. Not even going to mention the 360 and Wii, rarely play exclusives on both, and usually get the 360 ones on PC anyway. Oh and its the same yet PC is DirectX 11 and Consoles are DirectX 9 and OpenGL 2.0
You are CORRECT. AND to add to it, Very High settings on the PC demo is DISABLED for some reason so we cant see the true potential
"but of course PC hardware whores will fill this topic with worthless number crunching that noone cares about but the people that waste their money on attaining it " Here's a question: Where the **** are you when there's the console comparison articles then?
Would also like to add the point that the PC demo does NOT have all GFX options available. It clearly states that DX11 features have been disabled for the demo. Fail article is full of fail.
Well HURP A DERP to the noob of a reviewer.
Except PC can be played at 7680 by 1600 (6 times 1080p - 12 times 720p) Except PC can be played at 8xSSaa, 32xMSaa and 16xQaa Except PC can be played at 16x AF Except Mods for textures and graphics tweaks. Plus all the community made content for extra weapons and maps and quests.
People always forget about GPU individual application settings and how they can overide game settings.
You beat me to it Liber8or. I was just about to point that out. +Bubble
German shit sites. This proves nothing.
lol just lol
- http://n4g.com/news/695551/... same people who made this article!! http://www.youtube.com/watc... @below do you know one of the biggest games this year named portal 2 will give velve a lot of money & can only make stem better with that cash since pC is there main focus?
pc gaming is dead
/points /laughs at uninformed idiot :P /points at Steam
Thing is, most people don't care. AA,AF. What i find more important is lighting,shadows,textures. On some games the textures on pc are very high, on some they are not. I recently played DEADSPACE2 on PC. Other then rez etc, i wouldn't call it high end. Lighting was nice, textures were ok. But pushing PC it did not. Shame really. Because in those small environments it wouldn't have taken much. Could have looked real ffs. Considering what crysis pushes maxed.
The first was a significantly better experience on the PC. But after playing both demos I simply prefer the combat on a gamepad this time around, thanks to the more action-based feel. That said by switching directly between the two the PC version looked slightly better with some higher res textures, but it wasn't anything significant like DA:O
nvidia control panel, here i come. and they're charging $60 for the PC version?
yeah, EA does that now, which is why i wont be buying their games brand new anymore
demo missing DX11...'nough said
First off the PC will always have better graphics even on a direct console port. Second off DA2 will be a great game despite it's low graphics just to make that very very clear as graphics are important they are not the end all to a great game, insert MINECRAFT here! third i'm 100000% sure the PC modding community will make a mod that will boost the graphics to even better levels like with all good games. fourth If I just gotta have great graphics well then i will be getting them when The Witcher 2 is released, oh by the way did you see the Battlefield 3 PC game play teaser trailer? No Better Graphics For PC-Fanboys = Only an idiot would believe that.
So I had both versions pre-ordered and wanted to know which one to keep. I tried both versions hooked up to the same TV. The PC framerate was better (although my computer is admittedly quite high end) and the graphics were a little sharper. Also, I would like to mention that the ability to change the graphics settings from Medium seemed to be disabled for the demo. I would consider myself a console gamer, as I prefer the feel of a controller, but I decided to get the PC version. I didn't like mashing the A Button on the Xbox version, and the PC version just felt more like Origins. Overall, the PC version still has the perks one would expect from a PC game, and the console version runs better than Origins, so I don't think anybody should be disappointed.
I just dl the demo and yeah it's missing the highest graphic setting. I tried to turn it to high on dx 11 and even then the AA seems to not work and on medium you can't use AF. So this is a pic of the game played at dx 9 on medium with no AF. So yeah if you run it on medium at 720 and have a terrible computer that runs it at 30 fps then it is like the consoles. No idea why these articles are put up. If you're so happy with your console why do crap like this?
Isn't the demo limited to DX9 medium settings or something?
I played the PC Demo and this game is shit. a consolized piece of crap. They should have kept the game playable for the PC. Without the far view of the first the game is a chore to play. The game focus is on consoles apparently, good for the console fans. And the Graphics have improved? It looks like the artistic design is worse.
i find it funny how some console users call fanboy this and fanboy that when really they are fanboys themselves.
console games are bordering on unplayable with the terrible jaggies in every game, killzone 3 is so bad i think it will be going back to blockbuster today, i can't even play it, it hurts my eyes. The jaggies on console are out of hand, devs keep trying to cram more shit onscreen instead of just making a nice crisp looking game with smooth edges. Every console game looks worse than bulletstorm pc Every console game looks worse than BFBC2 pc Every console game looks worse than two worlds 2 pc Every console game looks worse than 90% of AAA pc releases from the last 4 years because of the unforgivable amount of jaggies, pop-in, awful load times and terrible shitty, buggy servers. (killzone 3- the world is full it is not possible to join.- [-948]) So please idiots who write terrible articles, the pc destroys every console game for the mere fact of 16x anti aliasing and true HD native resolutions, 99.9% of pc ports SHIT on their console counterpart. It is going to keep getting worse, have fun with 1280x720, jaggies everywhere, and 20-30 frames per second for 3 more years
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