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Submitted by HebrewHammer 1238d ago | opinion piece

Don't Get Too Excited For Dead Island

RealityPales.com writes: This week saw the re-reveal of a long forgotten title, Dead Island. Along with it came an unprecedented amount of excitement. Heck, even Hideo Kojima gave a shout-out to Techland for their impressive, albeit CG trailer. Now, I know how much we all love the concoction of zombies and video games, but I’m going to have to quell my excitement for the time being. I strongly suggest you all do the same. (Dead Island, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

BakedGoods  +   1238d ago
Sensationalist
Basically digs into meta-critic and bashes the developer.

The author forgets 'Chrome', an interesting title where the developer basically built an engine from the ground up to compete with the likes of Crysis. Sure, it was a European game (ie. got no publicity) but a modest attempt for sure.

Second, Call of Juarez may not have blown peoples minds, but it was a solid game for an unknown developer. Especially considering it was one of the few true 'wild west' games around.

Lastly, the Dead Island CG was no joke. Sure it wasn't 'gameplay' (although in-game is no slouch), but it wasn't a piss-poor attempt either. The creative and technical process to create such a video is demanding, and the fact that it has resonated so well with the gaming media proves the developer's got talent.

Personally I believe to dismiss this game because of metacritic scores is short-sighted. We won't know of it's quality until we can get some hands-on, and till then I think the media supporting an interesting title like this helps motivate indie developers like TechLand.
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HebrewHammer  +   1238d ago
#1, is metacritic not representative of journalist and user opinions?

#2, Cant argue with that. I've never played chrome

#3, Personally, I believe to dismiss a game based on the developers lackluster history is more than justified. To place faith in them based on CG is absolutely foolish.

#4, Techland has been around since 1991. Take a guess as to why they are "unknown" in 2011. The answer is exactly why Dead Island, I feel, will greatly disappoint.
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BakedGoods  +   1238d ago
#1 See Killzone 3 reviews. Is metacritic really important/reliable in gauging a game's value?

#3 Foolish is a strong word. However, if you would like to use such a term, I think suggesting since it's *only* CG it reveals little of their talent--is foolish.

#4 European developers have to pull off impressive feats to get noticed. I think if anything, given their age there's a chance their talent might be maturing, and the recent media exposure might motivate them to kick ass (rather than hammer out a mainstream racer like Nail'd).
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HebrewHammer  +   1238d ago
#1, KZ3's review scores are higher than anything Techland has ever had to offer in their much longer history and portfolio.

#2, Foolish is accurate. Judging a game's success based on a rendered, non-depictive of any gameplay video. Foolish indeed.

#3, I wish I could agree with you, but motivation does NOT breed financial viability, something Deep Silver does not have. If Ubisoft was publishing, then thats a horse of a completely different color. And I gurantee you that this title was pitched to publishers like Ubisoft, but was turned down for some reason. I wonder why that could be...
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RedDead  +   1238d ago
Hebrew, you could say this about every CG trailer. Who's getting really excited for it? Cg trailers do that. Most game's are first revealed with a CG trailer which doesn't represent gameplay.

Second, guerrila games made 10 games, their first great one being K2. The rest when they had a dif name and other mediocre ones like shellshock.

Your right, don't get excited over a Cg trailer, but don't write them off on their past games. It can work both ways Square have went to shi* with consols since the Ps2, their track record should mean they are pumping out nothing but the best this gen. Just wait till gameplay before you write them off.
ReservoirDog316  +   1238d ago
Everyone should just be cautiously optimistic. That's it. Turns out good: yay. Turns out bad: oh well. To start throwing mud at the developers is just without merit.

And #1 and 4 is understandable but you do have to realize that unless you're a big name developer, you usually don't get trusted with a huge amount of money. And even the most skilled developer is useless without a lot* of money.

Give it time and hope for the best.
BakedGoods  +   1238d ago
"Foolish is accurate. Judging a game's success based on a rendered, non-depictive of any gameplay video. Foolish indeed."

Who said anything about success? I said talent. I think you're making things up to prove a point--and that's *really* foolish.

See ReservoirDog316's comment above for a more clarified version of my argument.
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NaiNaiNai  +   1238d ago
For those talking about CG, and the lack of gameplay.

KILLZONE 1 WAS GOD AWFUL..
KILLZONE 2 WAS AMAZING.

Don't try and state that effort in anyway on a amazing CG trailer from a company with a bad game rep means the game will suck.
HebrewHammer  +   1238d ago
Apologies for the double post. Accidental. :)
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KRATOS-PS3  +   1238d ago
I surely won't get much excited. There are just too many other games coming to PS3 I'm going to buy.
RedDead  +   1238d ago
Yeah and if dead island is any good then most of the Ps3 exclusives will get knocked down a level on my list. I don't want any more sequels or shooters. Free roaming Zombie Fps survival game. no one has done it before now.
KRATOS-PS3  +   1238d ago
that's ur opinion! My list won't be knocked down by this game.
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MARKUS_MAX1MUS  +   1238d ago
Thought he made some good points but about the track record, well every dog has his day. Bungie werent exactly known at all until they made Halo, they made the marathon series but it never really "took off."

Keep an open mind, the future is never set in stone. Wait for gameplay videos though, they will reveal the game properly, this is just clever marketing and is probably designed by somebody who wants a career in the movie industry rather than the games industry but W.E! its still cool.
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DanSolo  +   1238d ago
Basically, just wait and see....

It looks and sounds interesting; it also has potential!

When we know more we will know more...
When it's out we will know if it's worth getting!

Simple really
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SpLinT  +   1238d ago
as long as its a survival HORROR zombie game, its going to be FUN. None of this resident evil action adventure bullshit
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whydoyouask  +   1238d ago
It's been a common complaint among gaming journalists and gamers about the viability of CG trailers for a while now. Personally, i immediately became weary of the game because people were acting like this trailer was the second coming of Christ and no game could ever live up to a trailer like that.

Yes, they use CG trailers to get people excited, but in the end they will never represent the final product.
HeartDisease  +   1238d ago
what gets me interested in this game is the way they construct their models. they do not skin wireframes, they build them in layers to provide realistic damage to the models. check this old video: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

no guessing how the final product will come out though.
Da_Evil_Monkey  +   1238d ago
WTF is with all the downplaying of Dead Island, if the turns out to be good fair enough, if the game turns out bad, too bad. Saying that because it was only a CG trailer that is going to be bad is just the same as saying it's going to be good from the CG trailer. Going from the details so far it sounds like a good concept, only time will tell if they pull it off.
DeathMetal1474  +   1238d ago
I think it looks cool
I am a little burned out on Zombies, but the melee focus has not been done very much and gives it a sort of fresh feeling IMO.
snipes101  +   1238d ago
All I have to say that if more people would read up on what the developer is planning to do (there's an article on ign about this...do some research) people would get more excited. The trailer did it's job: got people excited and also, to me, if you have the creativity to make a trailer that is that compelling you have to have some kind of talent backing you up. I'm definitely rooting for techland here.

Another thing, though you can't blame one for referring to a companies track record when casting doubt on a game, it is not an airtight support for this guy's argument. Look at rocksteady, they came out of nowhere with Arkham Asylum and delivered arguably the best comic book game in video game history.

My last point, note that they have been around since 1991, they have to be doing something right if they haven't been shut down yet I mean 20 years is a good amount of time for a developer to be around for.

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