The Game Director Bodycount, Andy Wilson, said recently that producers of First Person Shooters feel the need to move away from big names.
I agree. Game designers need to start being more original. Call of duty changed fps for a year or two but now it getting kind of stale. I think developers need to start brainstorming and start to think of new game modes to include in fps. For example, killzone 3 has operations and it really addicting. The cutscenes and the objectives make the game more fun.
That's the point. More criativity and originality please.
Yes, definitely more... uhh what was it; "criativity"
To be honest, the only game that I really see that's taking FPS's forward, in a very instrumental way, is Brink. I'm not even talking about the SMART system, but the actual campaign being the multiplayer and vice versa. I can't think of any other game like that and if it is please enlighten me.
I think borderlands did that...but its a good idea..co op campaign is always great.
@No0oB101 No it didn't. It had co-op online but it wasn't versus. In Brink every section of the campaign is a multiplayer map where both sides are actual players trying to continue their story. Its nothing like Borderlands.
@focker O I didn't know brink did that. =/ That's cool though but hopefully there wont be problems with the enemy team camping just to stop u from progressing.
How is Operations? I've only played Bots and Warzone on the KZ3 beta. What's the objective of Operations? Please explain. :)
ISA invades Helghast, ISA objectives are setting explosives and capturing control areas, Helghast always defend.
So the ISA need to break into the Helghast headquarters. In the first part, the ISA need to plant 2 charges on the front doors, which cannot be defused to make it fair. Once this happens, the ISA need to control two points that are further in the level, and as they control those two points, a meter fills up. Once the meter is filled, the 3rd part initiates. This time the ISA need to plant three charges at three different areas before time runs out. I cant remember if those charges can be diffused, but once all three are set, the ISA win by blowing up the whole base and causing the Helghast to drown by the water below. If the ISA fail in any of the parts, the are assassinated by the Helghast. The cutscenes he is referring to are shown at every introduction to the next part, and in the cutscenes you see the top players of that team. Its very fun.
idk i your being sarcastic It's like Mission mode, we have a specific thing to do. The first round we have the defend/arm a bomb. IDk i never made it to the second round or if there is one in the open beta, but in the close one it was disabling the gas that was around the next area after the bomb. It's a fun mode, adding cutscenes to it was a great idea and personally it never gets old watching them. I think there is three different objectives not sure. Any way with the cutscenes for me it makes the game feel like something different, it's not just get in a game and get as many kills, this mode actually requires teamwork. Helghast always defend ISA attacks
Seems like a copy of invasion on Halo Reach, not that that's bad, Invasion was awesome too.
@ Red That is just like invasion isn't it. That is cool, I didn't know they were going to have that. I just got more interested in KZ3.
its similar to rush from bc2
I am going to try BC2 tonight, and I never knew they had a mode like that either.
- Nearly p-ssed myself when I first saw the KZ3 operations cut scenes...not literally, but the game's balls to the wall awesome.
Honestly I wasn't that impressed by the Operations cut scenes, and there is no variation to them, which I was hoping for. It's the same ones every time. I really do like the mode though!
Well i'm wondering if it just for the ice map. I'm hoping there are other maps with it and lso one with ISA defending.
@Mr Tretton I bet you can count on them having different cutscene once the game releases. Prolly just showing off a preview of them. Hopefully. Back on topic. Flashpoint even though it had a lot of tech mishaps I really loved the online for it. I love being able to plan out my attacks. Every shooter says you have that option, but honestly you don't. Planning out attacks with your buds and overtaiking a base on hardcore mode is one of the most satisfying things i've done in a game.
At least some developers now what is right. Good call Codemasters!
I'd like to move away from FPSs, but thats probably too much <:(
^^ But people keep bashing Bodycount for being ugly and unoriginal?
I'm actually intersted in Bodycount. I've always been interested...for personal reasons.
i was very interested in bodycount at first then i realized that the bodies i was trying to count were shooting at me so i said fuck it and played the other modes. kidding killzone is awesome no matter what mode
Activision is gonna milk the series just like they did GH... and CoD will have its similar end. ('Cept realistically, FPS devs need to innovate more or people will still be hooked to the same old b$ year after year called co*k-o-duty)!
We must get RUN away from broken games like Operation Dragon Rising.
I also found it funny that somebody from Codemasters would make such a statement, when OF:DR was such a flaming POS, and they've not even had the gonads to show more than a stupid CGI teaser for Bodycount. As bad as the COD franchise has gotten, it's gonna take a helluva lot more than PR speak from this guy to get me to entrust my FPS $$ to Codemasters. I loved BLACK, but I really have my doubts about Bodycount.
While Operation Flashpoint : DR wasn't the most polished experience, it did offer me something different to Call of Duty which I still really enjoyed playing co op with 3 other mates. For that I was pleased with Codemasters.
i agree but this developer hasn't shown they can do anything good other then racing!
When you get backlash from critics and gamers for not being like COD. What do you people expect?. KZ2 is a classic example.
I'm not sure I'd use KZ2 as a great example of critical backlash, it sitting at 91 on metacritic an all.
yeah, and metacritic never gets called a bullshit site. Use a better example yourself, dude.
@whydoyouask I only use metacritic as an example because it shows a critical consensus. It's surely among the best sites to reference if you're talking about critical reception in general. In this case it just shows that the game received a very high average, higher than the latest call of duty in fact.
Yes, we must. I'm getting sick of it. AND, everyone trying to copy it's trends,
then do something about it and quit fuckin whining.. "oh COD is eating away all our market share monies!!" - whiny voiced developers.. go out and make a better fucking game.. the sales will come.
Exactly, its funny how the internet whines and moans while gamers enjoy CoD because no matter how you spin it, it is a fun addicting game that has a following and for a good reason. So you can spend your time on sites typing that KZ1,2,3 or Halo 2,3,4 will be the CoD killer but the truth is it probably wont.
Better game does not equal sales.
Well there is Gears and K2, now Gears 3 and K3 are going to come out and one could say these two games are better than COD. But they will not be able to surpass the sales of COD since COD is multiplatform. How well would COD do if it was just on one system? That's the real question.
"How well would COD do if it was just on one system? That's the real question." Look at the 360 sales alone. (Each COD sells well over 10m units on the 360) I'd say pretty darn good. The PS3 sales just make it that much more ridiculous.
Give me Dirt 3!!!!
It's about time!
Unfortunately Madden and CoD are all the "Bros" buy. It makes it hard for new IP's to survive in that kind of environment.
yep... pisses me off considering if i want to play with my close friends i have to succumb and get cod...
I don't think it's COD's fault. It's the developers that feel the need to copy it because they think that's what gamers want. Because of this, FPS flood the market and they're all the same. Games lack originality and it's time for these developers to snap out of this trend.
Im glad bulletstorm is almost at my door!Fun rules!
i totally hate cod.. but i gotta admit that cod perfected FPS... i just feel since cod2 and MW1... FPSs have reach the peak of perfection... u cant have better controls than that.... now the game its completely fucked up by all the other aspects of it but still.. the controls are perfect wish other games would nail the controls that well... it cannot be done without saying that they are copying cod soo u can expect some bashing from fanboys but i would love a game that feels that great.. with some real dedication and effort behind it.. not like the lazy call of duty games...
On the ps2 I never played FPS, but now because of the social aspect online I play them. My true passion is still good adventure games like beyond good and evil and psyconauts. Fps are just all the same nowadays.It get's boring sometimes.
This is probably the cleanest comments thread I have read on N4G this month. Gamers talking about games. A beautiful thing.
Looking up to RAGE and battlefield 3 to shift things around
Isn't it actually MW's fault, CoD was always good, but until MW it was just one of the many WWII shooters out there.
Good for them, CoD clones are gonna do bad because people will just buy the yearly CoD over it and it is likely not even the best CoD clone out there. If you make a clone of anything it should be of something that rarely/doesn't come out with new games. That's why I think Darksiders did so well, Zelda games only come out about twice per console gen which is rare compared to the 6 (soon to be 7) CoD's we've had this gen. I'm actually surprised that there aren't more Nintendo franchises used to inspire PS360 games.
Agreed. I wonder if Codemasters is gonna work on Grid 2 any time soon. That game is such a good racing game and I feel the need to take a break from fps games.
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