Kotaku: The first bunch of games for Microsoft’s Kinect were… crude. Resulting in a fear from many gamers that the peripheral may not be cut out for more complex titles. Well, this Dead Space 2 footage should convince you otherwise.
Adding the Wiimote just makes it a Move with a better camera. Whoever said motion controls without buttons is too limited was right.
Shhh. You will get disagrees!
Who wants to stand up to play games? Not me. And who want's to pretend their hand is a gun? What is this, third grade? Pew, pew, pew pew.
haha KB is the man!
TheLastGuardian, so pointing Move like a gun is good. Its like Harry Potter shooting bullets from his wand. Oh.. you can buy a gun accessory the make Move feel like a gun. So what's the difference?
I was gonna say, "Quick! Its a Xbox article, bash it into the ground!" but the haters are fast tonite and already started. And LOL @ that pic And the flood of Disagree pour in, LOL what a surprise. I embrace the Disagrees, thanks for nerd raging and proving my point.
I disagreed with you because who exactly is Bashing Kinect here? Someone said its the Same as Move but with a BETTER camera.. not bashing at all. Someone pointed out that this vid was showing a hacked Kinect on a PC with a wii controller.. still not Bashing. See where I'm going with this? You were quick to pull the bashing card, and that's why you have 0 agree and 7 disagree
@ Joe He clearly said "Whoever said motion controls without buttons is too limited was right." Thats is a jab that the kinect cant do good gaming GTFO "Sick of these Kinect defenders b*tching about people bashing it yet they can never actually defend it." How is this for defending it. I still play kinect adventure every once and a while as I really like kinect sports (Hell I even play some before I do my P90x workout to help with stretching warmups). And my girl is still playing dance Central. Just because YOU dont like something doesn't make it fact buddy. Its also still NEW tech so give it some damn time, Jesus you people are like 6 year olds. I have Move from day one and still having nothing to play with it right now. Oh and I'm not a big FPS fan
"Thats is a jab that the kinect cant do good gaming GTFO" Until someone can prove him wrong it's pretty much fact. Sick of these Kinect defenders b*tching about people bashing it yet they can never actually defend it.
Kinect tech + Move tech would be the ultimate motion gaming experience thus far.
@Vinnie I see how that was a slight jab at kinect, but "motion controlls without buttons is too limited" is hardly bashing. Thats just a fact. I hope to be suprised with the progress in the 2nd round of kinect games, but thus far im not impressed.
@cryymoar predictions for ps4? i hope an upgraded move with an pseye like an upgraded kinect...then yu could pretty much do anything with it
@vinniepaz try modern combat domination its only around £5 on psn, and has move support , also on psn+ there is a kz3 beta multiplayer mode with awesome move controls, maybe if you was not so caught up in the kinect hype you would have noticed that, the only way kinect is any good is on pc, and even then it needs a wiimote to be good only proving sony's point of needing a controller
just so you get an idea of the ratio of 'fans' around here. On the N4G forums there are only 4,000 topics in the 360 forum compared to 13,000 topics in the ps3 forum. I guess the ps3 users hang around websites while the xboxers are busy playing games ;) (disagree button is just below on the right)
You play kinect adventures and kinect sports, but yet you can't find a good move game to play?!?! Reeeeally bro? really!?!? Ahahaha!!!
Well, that limited gadget just got its first BAFTA nomination for Dance Central...oh yeah.
if Zumba Fitness got the same nomination for the Move....i wouldnt be going "oh yeah" like you
Stop lying Mint. Dance Central got the nomination for People's Choice Award. Zumba didn't even get a mention ANYWHERE. I know you worship SONY but making up nominations is just SAD
@ above dumbass...its hypothetical
But dance central >>>> zumba
FailOverHero fails again. "if Zumba Fitness got the same nomination for the Move....i wouldnt be going "oh yeah" like you" "If"... that's the key word. http://dictionary.reference...
true its impossible to play core games with kinect without some sort of physical input. And by that i mean buttons. Any core kinect titles will probably use the 360s controller in some way. http://www.engadget.com/201...
not exactly. They can project keys on a surface and add function to it, like that one piano kinect hack video (just doesn't have feed back like vibration if certain games have feed back response). http://www.youtube.com/watc... They can do like a virtual buttons on any surface. Although it seem to be a little further into the future for now. If they can improve that tech, man, imagine how they can change the RTS genra. It is gonna be sick (each finger can assign a different functions, building multiple structure simultaneously).
i honestly dont think that is going to work for most people who play their games sitting on a couch. Plus according to that video you need to be able to see the keys on the screen which means that the screen will loose some real estate because of that. Its nice to see that they are doing a lot with the hacks but some of them are not really that useful to console gamers.
true, but like you see on hand held, it doesn't really take up that much space (directional pad and some buttons) plus you can sit down to play games (which many thought it couldn't do it). Especially w/ RTS game, it will be just like the mouse and the option panel at the bottom but you can choose w/ your fingers (one hand to execute action, clicking etc.....the other to move camera or sub functions.
The biggest doubt with this, its all very cool in all, but it looks so confusing and difficult to use motion controllers on games like that.
So is this suppose to be in support of the Kinect on 360 argument or just that Kinect works on PC? At this point it should be clear that those are to different arguments.
The PC has a lot more capacity to spare once you takeaway the overhead of interpreting the input from the Kinect. So I agree, just because you can do it on the PC does not mean you an do it or do it as well on the 360. For those who disagree, how many of you think you can run Windows 7 on a 6 year old PC as well as it runs on a quad core 64-bit PC?
i wouldn't even try godmars. reason and common sense just goes out the window with some of these guys.tell them that npd=/=world,and they will disagree or tell you the world doesn't matter when sales prove otherwise. but on topic,these videos that we have seen in the last couple of months just prove that.. a)developers can't seem to wrap their heads around on how to make simple controls work for complex games. and b)sony was right again on everything so far from hdmi for 1080p and 3D support,hdd built in for content,cell for power and great looking games,bluray for bigger games...and now,advanced controllers give you more options for input and accuracy. these guys just don't listen.it's just one thing after another.let's see this person play with no controller like we were told by microsoft.where's the voice commands?where's the core games...it just keeps going every time we see these articles. it would be hilarious if microsoft announces a wand right before GDC.proving sony was right again.
Your comment apocalypse brings back a lot of memorable moments here @ n4g. Where does the time go....
Apocalypse I agree M$ will announce a some sort of controller for the Kinect it's the only way they are going to play games other than the kiddie carnival/Exercise/Dance games if not GDC then it will be announced at E3 and believe me when that happens all the 360 fanboys will jump for joy and claim how original and innovated Kinect is.
Its just that its flummoxing to have been arguing about this thing as the ultimate extension of the 360, with it being shown working years before release with professional game makers largely being quoted of its potential, only to get copies of the thing Kinect itself has been accused to be a copy of, the Wii's motion control. Meanwhile, you've got tinkerers just messing around with the thing doing all sorts of things with Kinect including backwards compatibility within short weeks and months. Seemingly outpacing anything done so far on the game console it was created for in the first place. I mean, either MS just has completely incompetent game production planning, or the 360 is very limiting to Kinect. Which just screams another batch of problems.
Can't wait for the Matrix! 30 more years perhaps?
A matrix-like experience is the only way I'd stop using a regular controller.
If I had access to a Matrix like experience... First thing I'd do is download a virtual old school arcade to visit and play!! :)
Doesn't look good... It was supposed to be impressive ?? It failed then. I'm not.
So this proves Kinect can be used for hardcore games, and all devs have to do is abandon the whole point of Kinect, that being controller free gaming? Brilliant. Anyway, now that we proved we can, someone care to prove why we should? Standing and tilting around to play Dead Space for a few hours doesn't sound like my idea of a good time.
yeah,bet they dont have that much faith in motion control if they released the newest titles with motion control only lol
thank god we have controllers.
Looks crap. Sorry, but he's having to use buttons and it STILL looks cumbersome. So this has destroyed the point of kinect at the same time as making the game awkward to play. Well done. I hope people can see now why Kinect games are as they are. It is obvious that devs TRIED to make these kind of things when they first got their hands on the tech (as home devs have now Kinect has been hacked). They just didn't work. I said it before Kinect was launched. It doesn't matter how good the tech is, the concept of controller-free gaming doesn't work for standard games. You have to make casual dance and fitness games. Edit: Wow look what happens when he has to face 2 enemies at once... he dies. Wow. Great control...
lol only by adding a controller, proves sony's point if you ask me.... now kinect +wiimote == most expensive motion control solution ever
They are still struggling to find a way to make kinect fun for gamers. I commend the US media and 360 fans for thier loyalty but it's just sad lol.
That looks good could not see any lag and worked very well. I dont really want to stand up and play core games like this but proves it will work. The thing I am looking forward to is seeing what the game developers do with kinect and the 360 controller that will prove if MS were right if they both work together. Should see some games at e3 but I hope to see some before. But at this moment in time the 360 has more than enough core games to keep us going until later on this year when MS will show us what Kinect can do for the core. This site hates kinect but since Kinect was announced at e3 last year every one was telling us it was limited did not work far too laggy ect but now it is out we have got to see for our selfs that it dose work well and offers everything MS said it would at e3 and showing off new add ons at CES shows MS are working behind the seens to give us more things that can be done with Kinect.
I kinda agree. But it's worth bearing in mind this is a PC hack, so lag if this was done on 360 is unknown. I also have much higher hopes for controller + kinect games, but until proven otherwise I remain very sceptical of how well Kinect (+ controller) will benefit core games. However, as the Move functionality in KZ3 has been shown to work extremely well, I am open minded and optimistic that MS/devs should be able to deliver something that works for the core audience (one day)
The thing is,this may be proof of concept but that does not mean it's good to play,fun or even worthwhile. I find it so funny that these vids with fans saying"look it works"ignores the "is it any good?" or "does it offer any advantage over controller?". Look at it again.It's slow and has very little combat and from watching you can't tell how it feels(no feedback.I thought that was essential to 360 owners?). With other solutions they have specific advantages over a standard pad,what is the advantage here?
My thoughts exactly. Fantastic proof of concept, but gimmicky at best and pointless at worst.
"Kotaku: The first bunch of games for Microsoft’s Kinect were… crude." But the media was so much in love with the Kinect when it launched. Now it is "crude"? lol... truth coming out?
Kinect is fun. Misleading titles thrown out like digital chum to summon the PS3 sharks are not fun. If you use a physical object then it is not the core Kinect experience, and really should not be brought into the the discusiion of this article. This seems more about the combining of technologiies, rather than a Kinect example of hardcore games be played. We all know where we are though.
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