Gametrailers.com put the games side by side for you to see the difference.
Click the link to see the video in HD resolution.
Proof enough the graphics change is extreme throughout the series.
Damn, how weak was that!? I mean i guess it doesnt look that bad, but seriously, this looks seriously unimpressive, especially when you see the other characters (your teammates) they look so blocky. When you're actually playing it doesnt look that bad, but by no means that impressive either. It looks just alright at best! damn, worst than i thought
The curious thing is that, there are so many PS3 fanboys on this post, that it's not even funny. I mean the people who are interested in the game already knew that there were vast improvements, like look at the water affects (amazing). But here come the Sony fanboys who probably are not going to give the game a chance, to talk trash on the game. Pathetic....
The game looks awesome, and the evolution is progressive, and the innovation has just smashed through the ceiling. The fact that you can pause and pull up a replay at anytime. Think about that for a second, that means they couldn't have even cheated on textures. That should really show people how impressive this game is. I don't know, fanboys will be fanboys i guess. Instead of enjoying a great game, they choose to blindly hate it. Go figure (and they probably think themselves as hardcore gamers).
Are you looking at those video comparison with a "sane" mind? There is by no means a VAST improvement in the graphics between Halo 2 and 3. Anyone trying to justify the graphics simply isn't a gamer, or is blind. The character model of the soldiers are lackluster at best. The environments do look good, but there are serious texture issues.
Take off your fanboy glasses, and admit the game doesn't look better then a Gears of War, or many other games that have hit the 360. A game doesn't have to be graphically stupendous to be great. But Halo was one of those games that showed what a console can do. But this time it failed miserably when it came to the visuals of the game.
My god do these people have nothing better to do!
Cowboy's technology cannot crunch geometry as quickly as the Ninjastation 3, it's a fact not opinion.
You'll see the same old graphics for Halo Wars next year. How come? because the Xcow 360 has met it's fullest potential. Next year and up will soon be harvest time for Sony.
Killzone 2 is going to be the TRUE King of FPS - Real HD cinematic graphics with superior gameplay, hands down.
please don't ever again accuse me of being a fanboy. I find that to be very disrespectful and offensive to say the least. Second, Look at the lighting, the water affects, particle affects, shadowing.... and the fact that you can (again as i said before) pause at any time and float around and look at all the intricacies they have taken to make the game. You can slow mo the replays to look at the games animations and see that they didn't cheat with any part of the game. That alone is an impressive feat. And you can't do that in most other games (let alone last gen), the textures are constantly refreshing because of the infinite different camera angles. If that is not impressive to you, then your just a hard person to impress.
I can sit here and say that HS was beautiful, but it was more close quarter fighting than anything. Halo 3 has both close quarter and wide open fighting. Look at Bioshock, i have the game (and love it), but it's close quarter fighting. That means a different approach to graphics will be taken.
I mean if you can't even admit that there is something impressive about Halo 3, even just a little, then... (i won't even disrespect you and call you that offensive name.)
Nice debating with you.
So im a fanboy for not being that impressed by this!? ok!? and your not a fanboy? And dont you have any better things to do yourself? See you're doing the same stupid sh!t all fanboys do, and that's assume that i must be a some sony fanboy becuase i am not impressed by this. Errr! wrong! dumbass, i own a 360. Now get off the d!ck, fanboy!
And p.s. i love myself ;-), i wanna do me, lol!
not much has change, perhaps because of the artistic style.
your just mad that your arguement for Halo 3 looking like Halo 2 just got shot down..
..like a dragon from Lair flying too close to the Chief
the only improvements are some added lines in the facial expressions and HD resolution. Other then that no big improvements. Sorry, you just got shut down
stop being a blind fanboy
how about the lighting, shadows, textures, polygon counts, particle effects and non-bland environments (for once)
yep, the Halo trilogy motto should be "it plays the same, it looks the same!"
There you go being a fanboy again, toughName
That was awesome. I was not expecting Halo 3 to look that much better. But really, damn...
Excitement just got taken to a whole new level.
Wow, you're pretty simple minded aint you, so easy to impress. That much better? really? Dont get me wrong, it does look better and it doesnt look bad, and it does look pretty good, but nothing that impressive, just alright at best. Sorry but for a game like this, it should have been more impressive than this. And the game does seem just like more of the same. 3 times of the same thing, its just like Madden
I dont know what else a gamer wants, the game looks great and all the sites pretty much agree its a blast to play, I cant wait=
It looks just alright JOY, now stop being a joke. COD4 smokes this! Bioshock got better graphics than this, sh!t GeoW has better graphics
That's a good comparison. The graphics are greatly improved.
No they are not. They are pretty underwhelming for a game like this. I would have expected better of a game of this caliper
WHY CANT IT BE TUESDAY?!?!
It was tuesday for me when i got the game yesterday
This is what I see when trying to understand people being out of their minds saying moronic sh8t with malice not seen sense NIN64 vs PS1 days.
I think people wanted the visuals on par with GOW even though Halo 3 has an overall better look and graphics hence the reason its scoring 9 out of 10's in reviews. Doesn't have to have 3 shades of grey or brown to look good. Also stupid people get confused with art design with graphics.
Folks got to be out of their minds to saying Halo 3 looks like Halo 2 in HD the only thing they have in common is art design.
Sounds rehashed? well so are the comments comming from Sony supporters.
Below... I'm getting sick of your rabid attacks on people like I was telling somebody the other day don't take your mental and social problems out on me.
Learn to deal with it go get some help that can't be healthy. WTF is wrong with you?.
Are you ficin retarded trying to force people not to be happy with the improvments, get your mind right kid.
You're having trouble reading my posts I punch out isn't as bad as not knowing WTF is wrong with your reasoning, logic and emotional issues.
RE: his post people he's the worst kind of fanboy one that does not have any purpose what so ever just attack bash attack bash hate attack bash never having anything to add. E
RE: #1.1, #3.1, #4.1, #7.1
Worst kind of poster ever... He's working himself up because people like Halo's improvments he's crazy as fuc.
Let the people that have been playing Halo 2 for years think the games has greatly improved dissagreeing is one thing but to savagely attack with malice and spite is another. Crazzzzyyyyyyyyyy....
Now go get some mental help little nut/boy.
Can you please rewrite that in English please, so i cant understand it, cause god damn! is your writing and spelling bad, now go study little boy
They don't understand a thing about gaming. The game looks awesome, but what dwarfs that is the ability to at anytime in the game be able to pause and fly around the whole game. That means Bungie couldn't cheat or reuse textures over and over again. That means every stage had to be painstakingly detailed. Look at Master Chief, the shadowing is amazing. The lightsources used in the jungle stage is insane, casing all those shadows, and i'm not sure yet, but can we assume some selfshadowing. Maybe, maybe not, i'm not too sure about that one. But this game is impressive and should not be underestimated.
From what I can tell from the vids the graphics are amazing, whats with the talk about it being Halo2 HD?
Some of the less sophisticated reviewers from overseas made the claims and its what Sony haters use to bash the game.
How you can get art design confused with graphics is beyond me half of whats going on in Halo visually isn't even seen on last generation consoles or even can be done for that matter.
Halo 3 really is a marvelous technological achievement. It may not be the prettiest game on Xbox 360, but it's also doing far more than any other game. For that, I can forgive the occasional moments when the framerate jitters or there's some minor texture pop in. I get texture pop in just trying to butter a bagel.
Taken from Ign's review.^^
Seems decent enough, but as i stated somewhere else, the last part, would ign or any other site forgive framerate jitters and texture pop in on a ps3. Nope. and from all the hd vids i've seen, 360 has reached its critical mass, bandwidth.
And 1up does a 10/10 again, man these reviewers must have brown tongues from bills a$$.
the whole world has lost creditability according to sonykids
The plot thickens as micro's massive conspiracy begins to unfold;
1ups in on it
Gamespots in on it
IGN's in on it
Eurogamer is in on it
Gamepro, Gamespy, Pro G, Gamersdaily are all in on it
your neighbors are in on it
your friends are in on it
millions of gamers are in on it
sony is in on it
the whole world around you is just plotting against you thats all, whats that noise over there?, why is that light blinking?, wierd huh?, look behind you, whats that?, oh see that man smiling enjoying his lunch, nah really he's laughing at you, what's that the phone but when you answered the mysterious unkown charachter hung-up????, if you only knew where to find him?, then you could unlock the secrets of this tangled web of conspiracy thats surrounding you, the signs are there you just need to decipher them, ssshhh keep it down someones coming???, oh sorry thats just Master Chief, I wonder what he wants=
on posting... but your post= F#cking Priceless.
"ssshhh keep it down someones coming???, oh sorry thats just Master Chief, I wonder what he wants"
Not only was that a super comeback, it made me want to play Halo 3 just a little bit more (a feat I never thought possible). Are you a Microsoft marketing agent in hiding? You must be.
He's not trying to say that there is a conspiracy, but rather a double standard, where Sony is being held to a higher standard than MS. Its like Sony can never do nothing right by these reviewers and fanboys, and the 360 can do no wrong and everything it does is always so great. They definitely all have biases and are fanboys though, and you cant deny that. I agree that Sony has done nothing but fvck up since before the PS3 came out and continues to do so, but at the same time, not everything MS has done is perfect either. Its all ridiculous and biased now, its like politics. And people, stop acting like Halo is the second coming of christ and is the best sh!t on earth, its not, its just a good FPS and that's it. And it looks like not much has really changed since part 1, just like with all these long running franchises. They are just more of the same. And i should know, since i beat both games, Good, but not as great as you fanboys make it out to be.
Mr. Joker, bubble for you sir
you have to be pretty blind if you cant see the difference in this SD video and totally retarded if you cant see it in the HD video.
The graphics of halo 3 are not stellar
Many xbox fanboys hyped it so much thinking these graphics kick ass even before the reviews.
This video comparison does not make halo 3 graphics revolutionary
No fun for you.
I dont see how anybody cant say that that wasnt some of the best looking water (an forest) they have ever seen on a console!! makes me think that bungie used the LIMITED dx10 capabilities that the 360 has!!
A standard evolutionary difference, but nothing mind-blowing. Watching the gameplay for the opening level to see how linear and cramped the environments are, despite the sweeping vistas. Should've gotten an 8 for graphics, not 9s and 10s. It's on par with Resistance at times, but it's obvious that they're working around the hardware instead of working with it.
The facial animation for the human characters hasn't improved all that much, and the explosion at the end of the video was just weak. Actually, animation in general is about the same between Halo 2 and 3, and that's probably the reason why the graphics don't look all that impressive. Is anyone else wondering what happened to this target trailer from last year's TGS?
Halo 3 is miles away from any other PS3 game out there, actually the 360 has three games (GOW, BIOSHOCK, and now HALO 3) that just destroy any PS3 titles at the moment. Look at reviews, look at sales, it doesn't matter, the 360 has the games that gamers want to play. BELIEVE.
that trailer must be for halo 4 because 3 definitely doesn't look like that.
Edit: @One Word
Yeah it took the 360 almost 2 years 2 produce 3 great games. (Gears, Bioshock, and Halo 3) Ps3 has been out for 9 months and it has produced Resistance, Motorstorm, Lair, Warhawk, and Heavenly Sword. And if you look at each of these game you notice that there is a graphical improvement in each over the last, can you say the same for the 360. None of the games on the 360 have yet to pass the benchmark set by gears of war, but Lair surpass that mark by great lengths.
Edit2 @One Word
I'm not talking about review Scores (because reviews are mostly based on opinion) I'm talking about Graphical improvement, from one game over the other.
Lets just take a look at the games shall we (courtesy of metacritic.com)
1 Halo 3 97
2 BioShock 96
3 Gears of War 94
4 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The 94
5 Guitar Hero II 92
6 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 90
7 Forza Motorsport 2 90
8 Call of Duty 2 90
9 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 89
10 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 89
1 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The 93
2 Ninja Gaiden Sigma 88
3 NHL 08 88
4 Resistance: Fall of Man 86
5 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 86
6 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 85
7 Virtua Fighter 5 85
8 SKATE 85
9 MotorStorm (JPN Import Version) 84
10 Warhawk 84
Can't argue with facts buddy, and the fact is that 360 has great games, and a lot of them. The PS3 on the other hand has a mediocre list at best, even your supposed "AAA" titiles fail to even compete.
Just surprises me that no matter what problems the 360 has, none of the sites knock it, but hey maybe the neighbours are in on it, after all they probably bought a 360 and had to replace it a short time later:)
Not to mention the terrible no aa, in sp mode, or the fact the shadows are as blocky as u can get.lol.
Yes it looks better then halo1,2. But shouldn't it?
But it doesn't look nowhere good enough.
16players online isnt it? ouch. But at least the online portion has aa.lol.
Are they dumb or something, why are they comparing a forrest with a city level? The settings should be same to really see the differences.
Look at the Sony fanboys acting like idiots.
#11 halo 3 does not look like Halo 2 who said it had revolutionary visuals?.
what exactly is that supposed to show?
"To publicize or promote, especially by extravagant, inflated, or misleading claims" Hyped is when someone promises something and delivers something else; Bungie and MS have never stated that Halo 3 would have upper realistic graphics, a re-disign of Halo, 4ds experience or 120 FPS. They promised and "hyped" an excellent game and for what I have read in the reviews it seems like they delivered the goods. I am not a Halo fan therefore I am going to wait for my copy and play it and then I would made my mind about the game. I believe the only ones with power to say if Halo 3 was hyped it will be the Halo 3 gamers.
The graphics have been greatly improved on halo 2, no question. They have kept the artstyle of the game, which is why there isn't that much of a difference. But there is no question that the textures, enviroments, water, and physics are greatly improved. The game hasn't taken a different art style, which makes it appear graphically less superior than to mass effect, uncharted, ut3, bioshock, heavenly sword, and gears of war. And hasn't taken the realistic route like the tom clancy, and call of duty games. If you like the halo artsyle, you should think of this game graphically stellar.
looks good,,,,but what happened to the " GEARS OF WHAT? " graphics they were talking about? GEARS still looks far greater.
It just got replaced with "Gears Of What" multi-player.
SEAHAWKS baby Yah!!!!! SeaHawks won in the last couple of minutes SEAHAWK son... Cincinnati Bengals almost had it.
Halo 3 is scoring 9's out of 10's in the graphics catagory. lol
hating. Halo 3 looks fantastic, the animation is fantastic as well. While Killzone 2 looks better, you have to remember this. Killzone 2 has the same repeated enemies from what we've seen. A.I. which from what I've read is retarded but I'm not even going to talk about that. Graphically the game is a corridor shooter. Halo 3 has tons and tons of stuff going on in very wide open spaces; with very smart enemies that actually interact with you. All of this takes a toll on the CPU and MEM of the 360. This was a decision choice, but even with all of that the game looks awesome. It's a designers choice of art style that is up for debate here. People seem to forget that. It's like comparing Kindgom hearts 2 to God of War II. They are very diff styles but both are action games.
And enjoy the game. This hating is getting tiresome now. Some people love it, some don't. Lets not nitpick one aspect of a great game. Halo was never about the visuals anyway, it sells because of the gameplay and we have that yet again in Halo 3.
This was never intended as a graphical showcase it seems. Gears of War and perhaps Gears 2 will set that bench mark for the 360; but for everything else you have it here with Master Chief.
If your not buying the game, then you shouldn't be here spreading hate and undeserved criticism. And if you are going to criticise its visuals, dont forget to praise the game for everything else.
One would think that Sony fanboys would simple stop making a fool out themselves after this comparison. But nothing you can show them will make them admit that there is a big difference in terms of graphics between Halo 2 and Halo 3. Why? because they are blind.
Remember.. Halo 3 represent everything they hate about the success of the Xbox 360. which is why they hate it.
Does halo 3 look like Gears or Kill Zone 2? No... because it does not have to. Halo franchise fans asked for gameplay; specially online.
Look at the size of halo multiplayer maps compared to Gears and soon when Kill Zone 2 is released compare the map size with Halo 3 multiplayer maps. It would bave being stupid by bungy to cripple the online multiplayer experience because they wanted to make it photorealistic. Graphics on Halo 3 are not the best we have seeing but they look great.
Let also compare another PS3 game in order to help Sony fanboys understand... Which one is more graphically detailed or realistic.. Resistance or Warhawk? Which one have bigger maps? which one is more fun? Warhawk kick @$$ and is the best online multiplayer on the PS3... graphically probably the most inferior of all PS3 games.
The big differences from halo 1/2 and halo 3 are:
1. High dynamic range lighting. Looking at the sun it gets brighter. Hopefully coming out of a tunnel and into full daylight will be a brightness adjustment. Maybe blind for a second to simulate eye adaption to light
2. The contrast in this game is awesome. The difference between shadow and full sunlight is big. Most games don't show contrast differences like that.
3. The water and reflections in water are alot better than halo 1/2. Much more realistic.
4. Higher resolution is always a good thing.
5. Smooth framerate is what really matters in games and this game looks pretty smooth. Hopefully framerate hitches are few and far
I can't wait to play this game on my 61" HDTV w/ 5.1 surround. it will be awesome!!
There is a big difference between map sizes of gow and halo 3. Halo 3 maps are bigger so u have to take that into account when comparing graphics. Also when you tone down the color in Halo 3 it will look similar to gow. People tend to equate colorful graphics as being cartoonish while desaurated gow will seem better
Honestly, everything looks alot better, from textures to the environments. But I have to say, that explosion at the end looked absolutely horrendous, jusy my opinion.
LoL! You could hit Disagree until your fingers fall off, it wont change the fact that it's true. I'm not a biased person, my comment history is proof of that. And oh yeah, I own both PS3 and 360 consoles.
If you're a sonykid nothing about Halo is great.
If you're a sonykid any review that scores Halo3 high is biased.
If you're a sonykid any review that scores any ps3 game low is biased.
If you're a sonykid your 360 has broken 15x's in 6 months despite micro's terribly long replacement time for repairs.
If you're a sonykid micro is evil, sony is our saviour.
If you're a sonykid despite Halo3 looking very good, but not the best graphic's ever, NOW graphic's are the most important thing when it comes to games, although xbox games looked better than ps2 games in general and of course the graphics in Lair make it worthy of a 10.
If you're a sonykid you will buy Halo3 or play the hell out of it on your SMART friends 360, many many times but STILL you WILL tell everyone you know that it sucks, why? 'cause it doesn't have a ps logo on it.
I cut& pasted this RESEARCH DATA from a creditable site, can't remember the link though, hey 360 fans what do you think is it true?=
What really bothers me the most is that alot of people forget that Halo 1 was a launch title for the xbox and it was amazing what bungie accomplished. Fast forward to today, you look at Halo 3 (not a launch title) and it's not pushing any boundaries on the 360. It's just more of the same and that's a shame.
And i guess you are?
your opinion is valid... because you are a Halo expert right?
FINISH THE WELL KNOWN FIGHT
I can't believe Bungie did it again. The sons of bi*ches did it! They raised the bar again.
garbage when you compare them to Gears...and they dont look that much better than Halo 2 but way better than halo 1...
Halo 3 is not a graphics masterpiece, call it art design, art direction, color palette or whatever you want, they are just not good enough
PS i just watched the video again and the only thing good is the water and the light coming through the branches...
Halo 3 > PS3
I don't see why 360 owners bend over for Master Chief; it's just a game. Also if KZ2, FF13, and MGS4 were released before or near the same time as Halo 3 it's graphics wouldn't be scoring 9's or 10's.
dude, get over yourself.
Excuse me? Did I hit a nerve there? I'm only kidding about the Master Chief nonsense, but you can't tell me Halo's graphics will revival those games, and to be fair to both sides I'll say I don't think they will look good when comparing them to Mass Effect's.
That looks magnificent.
Heck, I just had a sudden urge to buy a 360 just for tomorrow Tuesday.
Thankfully, I can control my urges.
At least until more reliable hardware is available =D
It looks to be a treat for current and future 360 owners.
Seriously, didn't anybody read the reviews- this game is just plain GOOD... Wait, excuse me, that didn't sound quite right- This game is just plain Fr#@$%g awesome.
Fanboys can argue "graphics aren't as good as ___", but Halo 3 is not JUST about the GRAPHICS (and the graphics are sweet, by the way), its about the whole PACKAGE.
The video shows the difference, but not all the difference... It doesn't show the forge editor, nor the great replay value from the Saved films. Hell, it doesn't even show the Brute Chopper! What I'm saying is (I know I deviating from the actual story), statements like "It's just more of the same and that's a shame" that are based solely on the texture difference between H2 and H3 are STUPID. Please lets not make the mistake of associating Halo's graphics with the overall package. And the graphics are GREAT.